i do not know Steven a shittest black belt.... one thing the people do not understand is the ocidental genes is different of the orientals genes... to the orientals is more easy to make fast moviments... Steven just adapted his tall and bio-type to taekwondo....
that's not cheating u nub. it's called blocking and it's a smart tactic to use. Muay Thai fighters do the same. U're just hatin. His push kick is just soo good.
There Is One Thing Its Doesn't Matter Who Throws Punches Or Do Cooler Things While Fighting Its The Technique, I Got Two Friends Who Are Brothers One Is Stronger Than The Other But The Weaker One Can Beat Up The Stronger One Because He Thinks About What He Does, May Not Make A Point But To Me Its Is.
Chuck Liddell kills me by the way. Not only is he a bad boxer from a boxer's perspective, but anyone can clearly see he stalks with his chin out and fists cocked back for an overhand right. ugh. i agree with every negative statement about him, but the same does not apply to all fighters in MMA. (he has since been exposed). Reminds me of when HBO was hyping Prince Naseem because of his flashy KOs against tailormade opponents... until Barrera embarrassed that kid into retirement.
regardless, they aspire to learn the basics and A. Rogerio is an example
Boxing writers and experts and Ring had Manny as #1 P4P since early June... even before beating David Diaz for his fourth division title.
Your generalization about MMA is misleading (about it becoming an amateur boxing league), its like saying the only exciting boxers are the sluggers... we both know thats not true.
"Your generalization about MMA is misleading (about it becoming an amateur boxing league), its like saying the only exciting boxers are the sluggers... we both know thats not true."
What?
Most recent UFC, and general MMA, fights have featured many guys standing up and duking it out instead of going to the ground. That's not an opinion or preference, merely an observation.
Comments are open again! hahaha Im sure youre ready to burn me!
Recap: Fighters care about paydays and peanuts, but all the same... Floyd was in talks with Mark Cuban to join MMA through HD Net FIghts. AND i know you didnt talk about defending the takedown, but i'm saying the "sloppy footwork" is a result of the wrestling factor. Im sure a TKD agrees with you because you cant throw a cut kick squared up... but a guy has gotta be ready for a tackle..
"a guy who's only #1 because he beat down a past-his-prime boxer" Are you saying Manny Pacquiao is only #1 P4P because he beat DLH... and NOT because he cleared his divisions as the titleholder in four consecutive weightclasses? Not only are you blind to MMA, but your views on boxing are starting to make me wonder why we are even in this healthy debate. (Manny was #1 before the DLH fight.)
"re you saying Manny Pacquiao is only #1 P4P because he beat DLH... and NOT because he cleared his divisions as the titleholder in four consecutive weightclasses?"
Yes. Before the DLH fight hardly anyone believed he was #1 anything, and certainly everyone believed he'd get his clock cleaned. Now that he's one everyone's falling on their knees and pretending like they knew it all along.
"Who are you to say they have" I'm not speaking for anyone. YOU WERE THE ONE who accused them of not desiring to learn the basic, and I used to A. Rogerio Nogueira's success in boxing as an example that they DO aspire to learn the basics. But they do not fight that way when more skill are added to the equation, because it would limit them if they only chose to box in an orthodox manner.
Google "Mayweather backs off UFC" Even former #1 P4P boxer back-peddled when offered a chance to represent boxing in a fight. Boxing analysts and promoters are the only respectable voices left not giving MMA its credit. Boxing greats like Roy Jones, Sugar Ray Leonard, and George Foreman have all shown their love/respect for MMA. RJJ was upset the match between him and Anderson didnt pan out, while admitting he would be lost even with wrestling experience, if they met in MMA.
Or get to it like this: Google URCC MMA, its the first hit. Go to Interviews, then read Manny's.
By the way, defending a wrestler's takedown from a traditional boxer's stance is as easy as shifting your front leg back? Wow. You are exposing yourself. I commend you on your knowledge of boxing, but it obviously ends there.
GET THINGS STRAIGHT PLEASE. Your analogy is misleading. UFC combat = basketball. One aspect of combat (TKD, striking, Muay Thai, etc.) does not make a complete combatant. Steve Kerr won the NBA Three Point Shootout title, but is NOT a better complete player than Michael Jordan. Steven Lopez may have better leg strikes than Georges St Pierre, but St Pierre is a better complete fighter.
There's no such thing as a complete fighter. And even if there were, it's a joke to say that about anyone in the UFC. They can't punch, can't keep their hands up, have terrible footwork, throw slow kicks, and are generally only any good on the ground.
Ha. Now you are being hypocritical. By you own "logic", Boxers can't can't defend a takedown. TKD has no clinch. Kickboxers have no ground game. I can go on. To say that a fighter in the UFC is not striving to be a more complete fighter is the REAL joke.
"Boxers can't can't defend a takedown. TKD has no clinch. Kickboxers have no ground game. I can go on."
I don't recall saying any of this, so what an odd response.
"To say that a fighter in the UFC is not striving to be a more complete fighter is the REAL joke."
If they can't throw a simple punch, then no, they are not even close to being a complete fighter, nor do they desire to be if they won't even learn the basics.
Your ignorance of MMA astounds me. Classic footwork and striking techniques must be adjusted to defend takedowns. So what you are seeing isn't "bad boxing", its boxing tailored towards threat of wrestling/grappling. Boxers are told never to square up, but how else would one defend double- and single-leg takedowns? If they maintained a "hands always up" approach, how would they acheive underhooks on a shoot? Your level of competency in fight allowing a more diverse skillsets is apparent.
Of course it does. As a jackass MMA fan you have to take offense at anything that is less than me jacking off while someone named Silva pretends to do the Ali shuffle.
im explaining they have more a more diverse skillset. Who are YOU to say that they haven't learned the basics?! Antonio Rogerio Nogueira won Boxing Gold at the Brazil and South America Games and Bronze at the Pan Ams. He does not BOX the way he truly FIGHTS in MMA. Manny Pacquiao Boxing's #1 P4P fighter said that MMA is harder due to the more diverse skillset. Who are YOU to disagree?! Source: URCC Interview, youtube will not let me post the link, but I can PM anyone who wants to read it.
this isnt fucking UFC its Olympic style point based system WTF taekwondo. Its safe fun full of strategy and great to watch when you get into it.
Stop takling about fucking UFC its like me going to a basketball dunking video and say that Chuck Liddel would knock them out in mid air or something like that.
Yes. TKD is a sport but so is MMA and the UFC. The difference is that TKD is just one part of MMA. Olympic TKD is like watching the Three Point Shootout, while UFC is like watching a real game. Just to keep your analogy going because they are not two completely different things, like you tried to imply. TKD is just a fraction of what martial arts embodies, while MIXED Martial Arts attempts to combine all elements to make a complete combatant.
Dud ur the one who criticized Tae Kwon Do first. And there's no such thing as a good martial art but there's such thing as a good fighter. It odesn't matter what Martial Art u practice because it all depends to the fighter. And TKD is not all about combat, our Martial Arts Instructors focuses on our character development, cuz a Martial Artist should hav a good character. So stop comparind TKD to other martial arts.....PEACE!
Whoever says that there is "no such thing as a good martial art but there's such thing as a good fighter" has the whole concept backwards. Helio Gracie said "It's not my sons who are great. It is the art." Meaning, even a smaller, less physically gifted person can overcome in battle due to the martial art. If an Instructor is promoting only gifted people regardless of martial art or technique, go to a different school unless you are a superior athlete compared to everyone you meet.
Are you saying that martial arts were not developed for combat? "Olympic" TKD is sport. The ART of TKD is a combat system. Just like Judo. Judo was developed for sport... but its base is a combat art. Don't revert to name-calling when you are the one who is incorrect.
Re-read my post. Sparring is just practice. I stand by what I said... Name a championship title holder in any organization that allows all martial art styles, and see if any uses TKD as their base art.
USA Taekwondo Ignores reality and keeps putting the wrong team on the floor... despite adequate time and resources Jean Lopez failed to make satisfactory headway in gaining a gold medal team ... time for a new coach and a new team. Misguided efforts!!
ummm korea is the best at taekwondo and btw mma isnt brawling its people who are athletic wrestling... hence tap or snap... fuck tapout we want a knockout...
MMA is mostly just bralwing, and wrestling, not exactly MA, but still they can beat up these olympic guys, however if you wanna watch tru martial arts in the UFC, i suggest watching Cung Le. but still these olympic guys make a better living off of being an olympian than the UFC brawlers, and im sure they can fight pretty good also.
Steven Lopez sucks! He is such a cheater and blocks with his leg at any opportunity. There are so many who are better. Finally that loser got what he deserves! Go Italy! Eat bronze ya fk steven. Ur ugly too. hahhaha
He won bronze at sydney steven is still the greatest of all time love him or hate him u can deny that steven still has just as many olympic medals as him and has 2 more world champ golds to his name saei hadi got bronze at 2007 world champs
dude ur retarted he had to beat korea to get his gold medald but i will give u the botd cuz korea beat him in the world championship and he got second
Just cause korea in the birthplace does not mean there is a definite superiority, of all things this is certainly something you should know. Anything can happen, its not like they were born with the skill, it all comes down to the lvl of training and dedication.
oh yah! steven lopez is the best! but we only saw his hightlights not the many times he has gotten ko'd himself, so this is preety cool, but it only shows his good moments. on the other hand, he did win the title of olympic world champion two times. i really dont know what to say!
I hate the lopez family, They are cocky and cheats to get into the Olympics and shit. No honor in that. I feel sorry for USA b/c they are the ones who are representing the country and even though they win some fights their attitude and bad sportsmanship ruins their reputation.
Shut the fuck up and learn some manners. Don't be jealous FUCKER!!!! Why don't YOU try going to the Olympics? Oh that's right, CAUSE YOU'RE A FAT FUCKER WHO DOES NOTHING BUT SIT AROUND AND PLAY VIDEOGAMES!!!! You should apologize for being born.
lol excuse me I do tae kwon do and I have trained with army team, WCAP. I do fight in tournaments. I'm not you, I don't sit around and ply videogames. Oh btw David Bartlette is my trainer or my manager's brother. And my manager is my Master and he is the Coach for the amry team. So yeah.. I know all the inside work with the lopez and stuff.. so don't tell me what to do. I do respect many fighters just not the lopez family.
u guys are truly pathetic.. stop talking about mma.. any skilled fighter in jujitsu can take down some1 from mma... ufc/mma isnt everything, theres a reason there are different forms of martial arts
btw steven lopez isnt in the highest weight class either
i LOVE steven lopez!!! i cant wait for bejing!! hes a real nice guy on top of everything. hes a great role model for kids. i met him at nationals in san jose last year. i cant wait for the olympics
im not disrespecting him in TKD...im disrespecting da fool who said steve can whoop anybody in MMA. please!!! MMA & TKD are different sports...lopez would get destroyed in the 1st rd.
hey i know that also and i am a black belt in taekwondo.but he never lose that easy in mma.i can say he can become a big peron also in mma if he join MMA
i dont think so...he has no experience in full contact fighting, grappling, & hes too old to start pro MMA training. hes too 1 dimensional especially since he depends alot on his TKD.
lolz im not a hater u faggot, im a realist. MMA fighters differ from 1 diminsional TKD fighters(which is nothing but useless flashy kicks) & i would know cuz i was a blackbelt in TKD. great olympic sport but not a useful fighting style in the competitive world in MMA. ask why he would never try MMA. point period asshole...dont compare fighters like Crocop, Yamamoto, Shogun Rua, etc to Steven Lopez. thats like comparing flag football & tackle football.
then what the heck you come here you faggot this place is for taekwondo not mma.if you like mma go view it and give comment in it.dont say tkd is a bull shit and other thing.give rescpect to other martial arts that is the attitude should have in blach belt holders.give a poaitive attitude.ok.if you still want to give bad comment about tkd,go away from here.
if i remember correctly, u involved urself in da conversation. i was talking 2 a noob who said steven lopez would destroy any1 in MMA. i dont respect alot of TKD & BJJ fighters bc they talk alot of shit(including Steven) funny how can let lopez slide with his comments & still respect him rite?
MMA is nothing more than a fancy term for a bunch of thugs and brawlers. Nearly every fight comes down to some sweaty wannabe wrestler wailing on another sweaty wannabe wrestler until the ref stops it or he passes out. It's an insult to even compare it to real fighting arts like Boxing, TKD, Karate, etc.
ok dat was an ignorant comment...very stupid. Crocop would destroy him in one kick. in thailand, they have the best muay thai kickboxers in the world. Lopez wouldnt survive a single rd in MMA or Pro Kickboxing. ask him urself...
TKD is completely useless in MMA...all those flashy kicks u see mean nothing. Lopez is great at TKD, but in MMA hes just garbage. i mean wow!! dat was really dumb of u 2 say.
I agree with Jbonerz. He is a little too cocky lol, but he is a two time Olympic Gold Medalist. He does have the ability to ko someone who throws a punch, guaranteed. World class athlete my friends.
one really big advantage he has is his height. it gives him a longer reach. there are many taekwon do fighters just as good and quick, but much shorter than steven.
Hey Docthewrench... Steven Lopez could kick the shit out ur lil UFGay shit....he'll kick ur ass soooo bad..u will forget abt that lil UFC...so stfu..and dont be watching vidoes if ur only gonna diss them u fu*kin ass wipe..fuck u
EHHHH I challenge this smuck to a UFC fight. I am a nobody and I bet he would not step in a UFC octagon with me. Yes me a nobody could slash this point fighter. Sorry No chest protection head protection there song and your fancy bunny hopping would FAIL. But I will give him this, he can cover some ground as them meatheads back up allowing him to get them point kicks in. Wont happen in a UFC fight though But My challenge is offered .
U think the tkd guys train only to fight with the chest armour .. dude they stand much more beating to the stomach than u will ever, i know i have experience
It depends. We've never seen Lopez do anything other than Olympic-style TKD--which means he could really be a deadly sob who's just "dumbing" down his style for the benefit of the judges.
steven is like my idol..i want to be just like him when im older.....and hes super cute lol.. man i hope one day i get to meet him
lala1231291 1 week ago
he is a taekwondo rival in south korea!
beyondsupreme 6 months ago
do you see steven lopez get hit in the face by the ref @ 2:14
KJEWLE 1 year ago
humi really want to chat i have pics too so
AbbeeNges3 1 year ago
i do not know Steven a shittest black belt.... one thing the people do not understand is the ocidental genes is different of the orientals genes... to the orientals is more easy to make fast moviments... Steven just adapted his tall and bio-type to taekwondo....
kadaveria 1 year ago
steven lopez is the shittest blackbelt ive seen. all he does is cheat and bring his knee up. fighting against him is like fighting aggainst a dog
jakeyjakey101 2 years ago
@jakeyjakey101
that's not cheating u nub. it's called blocking and it's a smart tactic to use. Muay Thai fighters do the same. U're just hatin. His push kick is just soo good.
xXRoxasKH2Xx 2 years ago
oh my god
FINALLY
thank you
cody93rox 2 years ago
his brother (john) sat behind me in my spanish class
amphixious 2 years ago
pinches grindos no balen madre
un mexicano apollando alos grindos
a mi medaria berguensa y asco portar la bandera de usa .........
Pinche pendejo!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
AMPO1232 2 years ago
u know wat fuck off steven lopez ..he is not tkd fighter he is street fighter
ritosritos 2 years ago
There Is One Thing Its Doesn't Matter Who Throws Punches Or Do Cooler Things While Fighting Its The Technique, I Got Two Friends Who Are Brothers One Is Stronger Than The Other But The Weaker One Can Beat Up The Stronger One Because He Thinks About What He Does, May Not Make A Point But To Me Its Is.
TaEkWoNdObOy12345678 2 years ago
vao se fude quem deu negativo (-) pro video..o cara é campeao olimpico -.-'' xiuu
ShokyTKD 2 years ago
"MMA, TKD, who the fuck cares?"
You.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
What a whimp...Bronce medall... ha ha ha
CuachaMorada 3 years ago
nice spelling or Bronze. i bet you cant even win at your classroom.
jc3vid 3 years ago
What A Whimp Bronze Medal, Your Continuing Like You Get Golds In Everything You Do
TaEkWoNdObOy12345678 2 years ago
Chuck Liddell kills me by the way. Not only is he a bad boxer from a boxer's perspective, but anyone can clearly see he stalks with his chin out and fists cocked back for an overhand right. ugh. i agree with every negative statement about him, but the same does not apply to all fighters in MMA. (he has since been exposed). Reminds me of when HBO was hyping Prince Naseem because of his flashy KOs against tailormade opponents... until Barrera embarrassed that kid into retirement.
shinobixtc 3 years ago
regardless, they aspire to learn the basics and A. Rogerio is an example
Boxing writers and experts and Ring had Manny as #1 P4P since early June... even before beating David Diaz for his fourth division title.
Your generalization about MMA is misleading (about it becoming an amateur boxing league), its like saying the only exciting boxers are the sluggers... we both know thats not true.
shinobixtc 3 years ago
"Your generalization about MMA is misleading (about it becoming an amateur boxing league), its like saying the only exciting boxers are the sluggers... we both know thats not true."
What?
Most recent UFC, and general MMA, fights have featured many guys standing up and duking it out instead of going to the ground. That's not an opinion or preference, merely an observation.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
I'd like to point out that Charlotte Craig, a 17 year old, is better at TKD than all the Lopezes combined.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
Africanus, check your message box!
Comments are open again! hahaha Im sure youre ready to burn me!
Recap: Fighters care about paydays and peanuts, but all the same... Floyd was in talks with Mark Cuban to join MMA through HD Net FIghts. AND i know you didnt talk about defending the takedown, but i'm saying the "sloppy footwork" is a result of the wrestling factor. Im sure a TKD agrees with you because you cant throw a cut kick squared up... but a guy has gotta be ready for a tackle..
shinobixtc 3 years ago
"but a guy has gotta be ready for a tackle.."
Not if he's fighting Liddell, W. Silva, Jackson, etc. etc.
MMA is fast becoming an amateur boxing league.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
"a guy who's only #1 because he beat down a past-his-prime boxer" Are you saying Manny Pacquiao is only #1 P4P because he beat DLH... and NOT because he cleared his divisions as the titleholder in four consecutive weightclasses? Not only are you blind to MMA, but your views on boxing are starting to make me wonder why we are even in this healthy debate. (Manny was #1 before the DLH fight.)
shinobixtc 3 years ago
"re you saying Manny Pacquiao is only #1 P4P because he beat DLH... and NOT because he cleared his divisions as the titleholder in four consecutive weightclasses?"
Yes. Before the DLH fight hardly anyone believed he was #1 anything, and certainly everyone believed he'd get his clock cleaned. Now that he's one everyone's falling on their knees and pretending like they knew it all along.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
won.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
"Who are you to say they have" I'm not speaking for anyone. YOU WERE THE ONE who accused them of not desiring to learn the basic, and I used to A. Rogerio Nogueira's success in boxing as an example that they DO aspire to learn the basics. But they do not fight that way when more skill are added to the equation, because it would limit them if they only chose to box in an orthodox manner.
shinobixtc 3 years ago
I'm not speaking for anyone either, merely giving my opinion. Yet you had to bring the hysterics into it.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
Google "Mayweather backs off UFC" Even former #1 P4P boxer back-peddled when offered a chance to represent boxing in a fight. Boxing analysts and promoters are the only respectable voices left not giving MMA its credit. Boxing greats like Roy Jones, Sugar Ray Leonard, and George Foreman have all shown their love/respect for MMA. RJJ was upset the match between him and Anderson didnt pan out, while admitting he would be lost even with wrestling experience, if they met in MMA.
shinobixtc 3 years ago
Millionaires are not going to fight in the UFC for peanuts. That's now cowardice, just good sense.
A handful of random comments does not prove a thing. If it did we could have settled this shortly after Mayweather dissed MMA.
Oddly enough, though, that #1 P4P's words didn't mean a damn thing to you.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
That's not cowardice....
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
I'm sure you know that Mayweather Sr. said his son would get killed in MMA.
adidas198 3 years ago
In between spousal abuse and prison terms you mean?
Fuck him.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
Or get to it like this: Google URCC MMA, its the first hit. Go to Interviews, then read Manny's.
By the way, defending a wrestler's takedown from a traditional boxer's stance is as easy as shifting your front leg back? Wow. You are exposing yourself. I commend you on your knowledge of boxing, but it obviously ends there.
shinobixtc 3 years ago
"By the way, defending a wrestler's takedown from a traditional boxer's stance is as easy as shifting your front leg back?"
You shift your leg back to go into a square stance. I said nothing about defending the takedown.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
GET THINGS STRAIGHT PLEASE. Your analogy is misleading. UFC combat = basketball. One aspect of combat (TKD, striking, Muay Thai, etc.) does not make a complete combatant. Steve Kerr won the NBA Three Point Shootout title, but is NOT a better complete player than Michael Jordan. Steven Lopez may have better leg strikes than Georges St Pierre, but St Pierre is a better complete fighter.
shinobixtc 3 years ago
There's no such thing as a complete fighter. And even if there were, it's a joke to say that about anyone in the UFC. They can't punch, can't keep their hands up, have terrible footwork, throw slow kicks, and are generally only any good on the ground.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
Some of the best fighters in the worl difght in the UFC
Cheick Kongo
Josh Koscheck
BJ Penn
Goerge St. Peirre
Anderson Silva
Alot Of Big Names
Train2Fight 3 years ago
You mean the best fighters in MMA.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
Ha. Now you are being hypocritical. By you own "logic", Boxers can't can't defend a takedown. TKD has no clinch. Kickboxers have no ground game. I can go on. To say that a fighter in the UFC is not striving to be a more complete fighter is the REAL joke.
shinobixtc 3 years ago
"Now you are being hypocritical."
I have a good feeling that you don't know what this means.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
"Boxers can't can't defend a takedown. TKD has no clinch. Kickboxers have no ground game. I can go on."
I don't recall saying any of this, so what an odd response.
"To say that a fighter in the UFC is not striving to be a more complete fighter is the REAL joke."
If they can't throw a simple punch, then no, they are not even close to being a complete fighter, nor do they desire to be if they won't even learn the basics.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
The basics of what a sport that is less applicatible for the streets
Boxing is limited to the point were it doesnt work
There are alot of things that effect what a mma fighter can and can not do.
And MMA fighter cant bob and weeve because he is gonna get clinched and kneed
and boxing use a clinch as a rest
there is no rest when your in clinch in MMA
On the street or ART VS ART MMA would win Hands Down Bar Fuckin None
Train2Fight 3 years ago
"and boxing use a clinch as a rest
there is no rest when your in clinch in MMA"
All the leaning up against the fence must be real exhausting. The lying on the floor and not moving for five minutes, too.
How do they do it!?
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
"Boxing is limited to the point were it doesnt work"
No one uses their fists anymore!
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
Lets short my sentence to make yourself look good
PubicAfricanAss
Train2Fight 3 years ago
OMG, you sure showed me!
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
Your ignorance of MMA astounds me. Classic footwork and striking techniques must be adjusted to defend takedowns. So what you are seeing isn't "bad boxing", its boxing tailored towards threat of wrestling/grappling. Boxers are told never to square up, but how else would one defend double- and single-leg takedowns? If they maintained a "hands always up" approach, how would they acheive underhooks on a shoot? Your level of competency in fight allowing a more diverse skillsets is apparent.
shinobixtc 3 years ago
"Boxers are told never to square up, but how else would one defend double- and single-leg takedowns?"
It takes maybe a millisecond to shift your front leg back. Don't act like a square stance is brain surgery now.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
And it only takes half a mili second to get taken down
Train2Fight 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
OMG, you sure showed me!
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
"Your ignorance of MMA astounds me."
Of course it does. As a jackass MMA fan you have to take offense at anything that is less than me jacking off while someone named Silva pretends to do the Ali shuffle.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
And I'm wondering how a rant about stance is supposed to prove to me that MMA guys aren't shitty punchers?
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
Its proven on sports science that 205 Rampage Jackson punches at 1800lbs and a heavyweight boxing champion punches at 993 lbs
Its on youtube if you wanna see it
Train2Fight 3 years ago
"Its proven on sports science that 205 Rampage Jackson punches at 1800lbs and a heavyweight boxing champion punches at 993 lbs"
Let me get this straight: It's been proven that some guys can hit harder than other guys?
Oh, my god. Why didn't anyone tell me!?
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
im explaining they have more a more diverse skillset. Who are YOU to say that they haven't learned the basics?! Antonio Rogerio Nogueira won Boxing Gold at the Brazil and South America Games and Bronze at the Pan Ams. He does not BOX the way he truly FIGHTS in MMA. Manny Pacquiao Boxing's #1 P4P fighter said that MMA is harder due to the more diverse skillset. Who are YOU to disagree?! Source: URCC Interview, youtube will not let me post the link, but I can PM anyone who wants to read it.
shinobixtc 3 years ago
"Who are YOU to say that they haven't learned the basics?!"
Who are you to say they have?
"Manny Pacquiao Boxing's #1 P4P fighter said that MMA is harder due to the more diverse skillset. Who are YOU to disagree?!"
Who are you to agree with a guy who's only #1 because he beat down a past-his-prime boxer who was barely even there?
Twenty bucks says if he said boxing was harder, you wouldn't have even brought it up.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
Asi es q se pelea en el Tae Kwon Do xD!!
Oscar2ooo8 3 years ago 3
lol hes not mexican.hes nicaruagan.but tight vid.
vietboikhoa 3 years ago
its a fucking sport.
Steven Lopez is the Michael Jordan of basketball
this isnt fucking UFC its Olympic style point based system WTF taekwondo. Its safe fun full of strategy and great to watch when you get into it.
Stop takling about fucking UFC its like me going to a basketball dunking video and say that Chuck Liddel would knock them out in mid air or something like that.
GET THINGS STRAIGHT PLEASE
liquidmeat 3 years ago 2
Yes. TKD is a sport but so is MMA and the UFC. The difference is that TKD is just one part of MMA. Olympic TKD is like watching the Three Point Shootout, while UFC is like watching a real game. Just to keep your analogy going because they are not two completely different things, like you tried to imply. TKD is just a fraction of what martial arts embodies, while MIXED Martial Arts attempts to combine all elements to make a complete combatant.
shinobixtc 3 years ago
Dud ur the one who criticized Tae Kwon Do first. And there's no such thing as a good martial art but there's such thing as a good fighter. It odesn't matter what Martial Art u practice because it all depends to the fighter. And TKD is not all about combat, our Martial Arts Instructors focuses on our character development, cuz a Martial Artist should hav a good character. So stop comparind TKD to other martial arts.....PEACE!
BATCHOK 3 years ago
Whoever says that there is "no such thing as a good martial art but there's such thing as a good fighter" has the whole concept backwards. Helio Gracie said "It's not my sons who are great. It is the art." Meaning, even a smaller, less physically gifted person can overcome in battle due to the martial art. If an Instructor is promoting only gifted people regardless of martial art or technique, go to a different school unless you are a superior athlete compared to everyone you meet.
shinobixtc 3 years ago
Helio Gracie is a noted liar.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
And if it was just about the art, Royce would still be dominating in the UFC, and no fighter would bother with physical training of any kind.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
Except for the fact that everyone else in MMA knows Jiu Jitsu and Gracie does Gi Jiu Jitsu
And its not about one art dominanting another
Its about using all arts to dominate your opponent
Train2Fight 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
TKD gets pwned. Name ONE championship title holder who uses TKD in ANY organization that allows all martial art styles. THERE AREN'T ANY!
so where is all this proof of effectiveness?
Wrestling, Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Karate, Judo, and BJJ... for teh win.
shinobixtc 3 years ago
who said taekwondo is about beating the shit outta people?
is that how it looks like in the olympics?
are yu retarded?
i think so.
fooitzrobbie 3 years ago 4
Are you saying that martial arts were not developed for combat? "Olympic" TKD is sport. The ART of TKD is a combat system. Just like Judo. Judo was developed for sport... but its base is a combat art. Don't revert to name-calling when you are the one who is incorrect.
shinobixtc 3 years ago
dude u dont that cuz my friend spared with all those and won and hes 2 degree black belt
shinobixtic
sasukeman145 3 years ago
Re-read my post. Sparring is just practice. I stand by what I said... Name a championship title holder in any organization that allows all martial art styles, and see if any uses TKD as their base art.
shinobixtc 3 years ago
what music? que musica es???
Danytalk 3 years ago
Pod "Boom!"
taekwondotricolore 3 years ago
and am not sayin he carnt fite am sayin mma aint martial arts
TaEkWoNdObOy12345678 3 years ago
USA Taekwondo Ignores reality and keeps putting the wrong team on the floor... despite adequate time and resources Jean Lopez failed to make satisfactory headway in gaining a gold medal team ... time for a new coach and a new team. Misguided efforts!!
crisss2001 3 years ago 2
Mark was the best looser out of the 3 of them
crisss2001 3 years ago
ummm korea is the best at taekwondo and btw mma isnt brawling its people who are athletic wrestling... hence tap or snap... fuck tapout we want a knockout...
ddanyeahboy 3 years ago 10
jus because its frm korea doesnt meen no one can beat them
TaEkWoNdObOy12345678 3 years ago
MMA is mostly just bralwing, and wrestling, not exactly MA, but still they can beat up these olympic guys, however if you wanna watch tru martial arts in the UFC, i suggest watching Cung Le. but still these olympic guys make a better living off of being an olympian than the UFC brawlers, and im sure they can fight pretty good also.
shuriken86 3 years ago
WTF thts not real martial arts u doughnut thts jus a bunch of guys who no how to fite and lock each other in gay positions
TaEkWoNdObOy12345678 3 years ago
wtf as in wot the fuk
TaEkWoNdObOy12345678 3 years ago
he got bronze ths year :(
tkdryan23 3 years ago
Heh. I guess he's no longer "The best taekwondo player in the world!"
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
i wonder if they got free olympic gear for being there
bushybrow123 3 years ago 2
Hadi Saei Rocks!!!!!!
taekwondo96 3 years ago
Steven is still the Best!!!
Hadi , Karami yaninda halt etmis hahahaha :D
bebim0704 3 years ago
punished*
EricTyce 3 years ago
Lopez is world class too, but he failed a drug test and was penished for it.
check out hadi saei's 2004 olympic semi match v korean guy high scoring match, just look at hadi saei's deadly kick.
/watch?v=l8hnz5_RzXY
EricTyce 3 years ago
Still in shock steven lopez lost at Beijing
ICP2291 3 years ago
steven lopez is pretty good but he doesnt have a chance against hadi saei
sicksolidgino 3 years ago
Steven Lopez sucks! He is such a cheater and blocks with his leg at any opportunity. There are so many who are better. Finally that loser got what he deserves! Go Italy! Eat bronze ya fk steven. Ur ugly too. hahhaha
proconsulaugustus 3 years ago
saei hadi
2000 sydney olympic champion 66Kg
2004 athens olympic champion 66kg
2008 beijing olympic champion 80kg
the best in taekwando's history
EricTyce 3 years ago
He won bronze at sydney steven is still the greatest of all time love him or hate him u can deny that steven still has just as many olympic medals as him and has 2 more world champ golds to his name saei hadi got bronze at 2007 world champs
ICP2291 3 years ago
hadi saei rocks
EricTyce 3 years ago
he not the best but hes pretty good
ChanLiTP 3 years ago
whats the name of the song please!?!?!?!?
SamuraXXX 3 years ago
he lose his fight in Beijing.... lolz.....
better luck next fight....
mc2qt4u88 3 years ago
i know lol...im glad that fucking cocky punk[Steven Lopez] was brought down to earth. BRONZE!! hahaha
mexkingpin619 3 years ago
this guy is really good pero porque no representa a su pais.
bonaojnfr525 3 years ago
Porque nacio en EEUU
Rikikage 3 years ago
i met Steven lopez at the junior olympics fer Tae Kwon Do in Florida.
jmh1189 3 years ago
i cant wait 2 see him this tear. 8/20 - 8/23!!! he is AWESOME!!!
whocares626 3 years ago
dude ur retarted he had to beat korea to get his gold medald but i will give u the botd cuz korea beat him in the world championship and he got second
meatwad314 3 years ago
In Taekwondo there is no way stven lopez could take on korea
tr204203 3 years ago 2
Just cause korea in the birthplace does not mean there is a definite superiority, of all things this is certainly something you should know. Anything can happen, its not like they were born with the skill, it all comes down to the lvl of training and dedication.
Rikikage 3 years ago
8/19 thru 8/24
jdub0471 3 years ago
lol what day is the taekwondo on in the olympics?
southbest05 3 years ago
august 20.
fatassverga1 3 years ago
i got an autograph from this dude in minnesota a few years back at the junior olympics hes cool as hell surrouended by kids and signed for everyone
SpEeDoUt88 3 years ago
lol u know what i want 2 see i want 2 see moon dae sung vs steven lopez
southbest05 3 years ago
Damn, me too dude. That'd be one badass fight
AznSupaStar14 3 years ago
i am friends with steven lopez
rodrigo1396 3 years ago
Go Steve!!!! that Nicaraguan Blood will take you to GLORY!!!!
mialatino71 3 years ago 2
what name the music???
kanuzumbi 3 years ago
p.o.d. boom
jamtatau 3 years ago
oh yah! steven lopez is the best! but we only saw his hightlights not the many times he has gotten ko'd himself, so this is preety cool, but it only shows his good moments. on the other hand, he did win the title of olympic world champion two times. i really dont know what to say!
foryo119 3 years ago
what's song?
jamtatau 3 years ago
p.o.d. boom
Rage4l 3 years ago
thanks!
jamtatau 3 years ago
Who would win... Bren Foster or Steven Lopez?
pichicatero 3 years ago
It mite go on to sudden death
TaEkWoNdObOy12345678 3 years ago
i think bren foster he is much stronger and he is a much more complete fighter
alanTKD8 3 years ago
I agree alan TKD8
EvilWilderness 3 years ago
muy buena
darketrnal 3 years ago
I hate the lopez family, They are cocky and cheats to get into the Olympics and shit. No honor in that. I feel sorry for USA b/c they are the ones who are representing the country and even though they win some fights their attitude and bad sportsmanship ruins their reputation.
slee1488 3 years ago
shut up... hes good.
grimzey 3 years ago
I'm saying he is good at his game but not in tkd and i just don't like him b/c his attitude.
slee1488 3 years ago
Shut the fuck up and learn some manners. Don't be jealous FUCKER!!!! Why don't YOU try going to the Olympics? Oh that's right, CAUSE YOU'RE A FAT FUCKER WHO DOES NOTHING BUT SIT AROUND AND PLAY VIDEOGAMES!!!! You should apologize for being born.
TheCollegeboi18 3 years ago
lol excuse me I do tae kwon do and I have trained with army team, WCAP. I do fight in tournaments. I'm not you, I don't sit around and ply videogames. Oh btw David Bartlette is my trainer or my manager's brother. And my manager is my Master and he is the Coach for the amry team. So yeah.. I know all the inside work with the lopez and stuff.. so don't tell me what to do. I do respect many fighters just not the lopez family.
slee1488 3 years ago
sorry currection: My manager's husband is my Master. And look up who DAvid Bartlette is :)
slee1488 3 years ago
I play videogames and I'm good at taekwondo, you know? Hahahahaha
pichicatero 3 years ago
haha tru that man
slee1488 3 years ago
He'll get his ass kicked by any ITF fighter. Sorry. WTF sucks.
tkdmtb 3 years ago
shut up.
grimzey 3 years ago
In ITF, you are not abble to kick. You just touch so shut up.
frankbrassard 3 years ago
You just shouldn't talk. You and Slee annoy me...
TheCollegeboi18 3 years ago
best taekwondo player.... mmmkay? i can haz tkd player?
OsQ12345 3 years ago
u guys are truly pathetic.. stop talking about mma.. any skilled fighter in jujitsu can take down some1 from mma... ufc/mma isnt everything, theres a reason there are different forms of martial arts
btw steven lopez isnt in the highest weight class either
prak18 3 years ago
bitch! taekwondo is a sport. SPORT. so next time say athlete or fighter kk? compendre? good or ill whoop your ass.
iamtheguruuuu 3 years ago
MASATO vs stevy = stevy die
IN THE REAL FIGHT...
OchentaFM 3 years ago
1:39 super technique!!
cutiecurvy 3 years ago
i LOVE steven lopez!!! i cant wait for bejing!! hes a real nice guy on top of everything. hes a great role model for kids. i met him at nationals in san jose last year. i cant wait for the olympics
whocares626 3 years ago 2
WOW:)
but please dont call him taekwondo player
tkd is not a game :D
tidaiy 3 years ago
what the song give me the title please
marcinektkd 3 years ago
whats the song?
fernandokaratewkf 3 years ago
hey dont talk like a pro.he is a olympic champion and world champion.so give him some respect man.
kalai175 3 years ago
im not disrespecting him in TKD...im disrespecting da fool who said steve can whoop anybody in MMA. please!!! MMA & TKD are different sports...lopez would get destroyed in the 1st rd.
mexkingpin619 3 years ago
hey i know that also and i am a black belt in taekwondo.but he never lose that easy in mma.i can say he can become a big peron also in mma if he join MMA
kalai175 3 years ago
i dont think so...he has no experience in full contact fighting, grappling, & hes too old to start pro MMA training. hes too 1 dimensional especially since he depends alot on his TKD.
mexkingpin619 3 years ago
no max.nobody knows what can happen?maybe he will turn out to be a great.
kalai175 3 years ago
eh...i doubt fighters like Crocop, Rampage, Fedor, Big Nog, A. Silva, GSP, Lombard, BJ Penn, etc would just shatter him.
did u even see wat k-1's Yamamoto did to a strict TKD fighter?
mexkingpin619 3 years ago
he do it to a other taekwondo fighter not stevenlopez my friend
kalai175 3 years ago
LMFAOOOO!!! ignorant comment...Yamamoto is a COMPLETE fighter...Steven Lopez is not.
mexkingpin619 3 years ago
so go view yanamoto video why come here.this video is for steven lopez fan not for hater like you
kalai175 3 years ago
lolz im not a hater u faggot, im a realist. MMA fighters differ from 1 diminsional TKD fighters(which is nothing but useless flashy kicks) & i would know cuz i was a blackbelt in TKD. great olympic sport but not a useful fighting style in the competitive world in MMA. ask why he would never try MMA. point period asshole...dont compare fighters like Crocop, Yamamoto, Shogun Rua, etc to Steven Lopez. thats like comparing flag football & tackle football.
mexkingpin619 3 years ago
then what the heck you come here you faggot this place is for taekwondo not mma.if you like mma go view it and give comment in it.dont say tkd is a bull shit and other thing.give rescpect to other martial arts that is the attitude should have in blach belt holders.give a poaitive attitude.ok.if you still want to give bad comment about tkd,go away from here.
kalai175 3 years ago
if i remember correctly, u involved urself in da conversation. i was talking 2 a noob who said steven lopez would destroy any1 in MMA. i dont respect alot of TKD & BJJ fighters bc they talk alot of shit(including Steven) funny how can let lopez slide with his comments & still respect him rite?
mexkingpin619 3 years ago
haaaa just a nonsence comment.plz go away man.
kalai175 3 years ago
i close my case...u fail
mexkingpin619 3 years ago
hahaha what a joke.just go away,if you want to be here plz,dont give stupid comment again.ok my dear friend??????
kalai175 3 years ago
MMA is nothing more than a fancy term for a bunch of thugs and brawlers. Nearly every fight comes down to some sweaty wannabe wrestler wailing on another sweaty wannabe wrestler until the ref stops it or he passes out. It's an insult to even compare it to real fighting arts like Boxing, TKD, Karate, etc.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago
Lopez is overwhelmingly invincible.
No man can survive through his kicks, even the MMA.,K-1... champions.
lebrita 3 years ago
ok dat was an ignorant comment...very stupid. Crocop would destroy him in one kick. in thailand, they have the best muay thai kickboxers in the world. Lopez wouldnt survive a single rd in MMA or Pro Kickboxing. ask him urself...
mexkingpin619 3 years ago
TKD is completely useless in MMA...all those flashy kicks u see mean nothing. Lopez is great at TKD, but in MMA hes just garbage. i mean wow!! dat was really dumb of u 2 say.
mexkingpin619 3 years ago
hes cheap but not the best
kevinktkd 3 years ago
hes cheap but not the best
kevinktkd 3 years ago
I agree with Jbonerz. He is a little too cocky lol, but he is a two time Olympic Gold Medalist. He does have the ability to ko someone who throws a punch, guaranteed. World class athlete my friends.
jawk321 3 years ago
steven lopez - best and cheapest tkd fighter in the world
StL33T 3 years ago
God bless
christwarrior56 3 years ago
is he gonna go into MMA after the olympics?
zcarenow 3 years ago
one really big advantage he has is his height. it gives him a longer reach. there are many taekwon do fighters just as good and quick, but much shorter than steven.
zcarenow 3 years ago
I always watch this video before I go to training.
And I have the same style as Steven's. I'm also good in defense and countering.
counterkick45 3 years ago
i do the same before and after
koker67 3 years ago
Taekwondo "player"? It's not like he's sitting on his ass and playing Scrabble or something... He's a fighter, not a player.
fluteyfire 3 years ago
the reason he cheers 4 himself...is 2 scare the hell out of the other kid...so stfu..and it is good sportsname ship...sooo yea.stfu
ChrisTKD543 3 years ago
Hey Docthewrench... Steven Lopez could kick the shit out ur lil UFGay shit....he'll kick ur ass soooo bad..u will forget abt that lil UFC...so stfu..and dont be watching vidoes if ur only gonna diss them u fu*kin ass wipe..fuck u
ChrisTKD543 3 years ago
EHHHH I challenge this smuck to a UFC fight. I am a nobody and I bet he would not step in a UFC octagon with me. Yes me a nobody could slash this point fighter. Sorry No chest protection head protection there song and your fancy bunny hopping would FAIL. But I will give him this, he can cover some ground as them meatheads back up allowing him to get them point kicks in. Wont happen in a UFC fight though But My challenge is offered .
Docthewrench 3 years ago
U think the tkd guys train only to fight with the chest armour .. dude they stand much more beating to the stomach than u will ever, i know i have experience
Seloo06 3 years ago
i aint a big fan of steven lopez he loves himself too much, but i garentee u he would ko u before u throw a single jab...
Jbonerz 3 years ago
It depends. We've never seen Lopez do anything other than Olympic-style TKD--which means he could really be a deadly sob who's just "dumbing" down his style for the benefit of the judges.
PubliusAfricanus 3 years ago 2