Harun Yahya: Socialism is the ideology of the false Messiah

[ghetoboy4life1]

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[TheNorthernsoul80]

what about Jacques Fresco's Venus Project? is that satanic?

[SL1200Ltd]

@Orry609 Thanks, I tell things our official truth isn't saying out loud. The left has too much power nowadays and is dictating the way we speak and see our history. There are plenty of examples where our past heroes & discurse are being tarnished by modern "scholars" and their pseudoscientific studies in which they just try to implement a new view trying to make us all be ashamed of our "racism" in order to justify the hordes of foreign "workforce" led in country & we do have local unemployment.

[EPGAH]

If you support taking from one group to give to another, how can you, in any conscience, object, when they choose the recipient group to be THEMSELVES?

[Stone2home]

Elitist BS, aimed at repression.

[topgunexcel]

Socialism, capitalism, democracy, all social structures have used by dates. The USSR and British Empire are the most recent examples. 

[yvwijo]

@alasion1 They don not need to attack Israël, not all Israëlis are bad people.

Nations don't kill people, People Kill People!

[alasion1]

@yvwijo i agree with you.however,does isreal have a good relationship with any of its neighbours?is not this circle of hatred towards isreal not expanding.the big question is turkeys future role?

[podoau]

There are a lot of people here who have no idea what socialism is..

Look up Sweden. You might be enlightened,, but I doubt it

[yvwijo]

Jezus helped people, he was the biggest socialist of all.

So how can doing as He be evil?

[SL1200Ltd]

@yvwijo Because socialism is a distorted and perverse mutation of social justice Jesus taught, its embedded with godless and inhumane aspects together with good parts in order to make it appear as good thing to unsuspecting and simple minds. It's a trojan horse of a sort. Lies disguised as noble and good.

[loowoo0]

@SL1200Ltd Please, then, if what you say is true. Explain it to me.

[SL1200Ltd]

@loowoo0 Jesus did not intended there to be some "big brother" controlling and that's what socialism is all about, enslaving people and not giving them freedom, nor freedom of choice. Never in history of humankind there has been a good socialist state as all of them are inhumane dictatorships which do not care about the good of their individual citizens, all they're expendable for the sake of the state and that hardly is a good state of living. Listen to William Coopers full lecture on socialism

[TheSobek]

@SL1200Ltd I don't think Denmark is run by an inhumane dictatorship.

[SL1200Ltd]

@TheSobek No it's not, yet. And Danes were wise not to join the Euro-zone.

[madjimms]

@SL1200Ltd Last time I checked, wasn't YOUR religion "Christianity" ruled by ONE person? ULTIMATE DICTATORSHIP!

[davekeays]

@madjimms You could say that of Catholicism (Pope) but not of Protestants. You could also say Tibetan Buddhism is a dictatorship.

[SL1200Ltd]

@madjimms What the hell are you talking about? If you mean ruled by God then yes, but isn't every religion supposed to be ruled by a divine force of some kind?

[thebbeenn]

@SL1200Ltd

For being socialized countries, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Canada, Finland etc, are doing pretty well. They have high living standards even for the low income people, and they have social safety nets in place to provide help to those in need of until they can get back on their feet.

Please do some real research before you mouth off. Real research means that you not only go to sources that confirm what you already think, but give a more nuanced image of the real world.

[Rueyful]

@thebbeenn Period.

[SL1200Ltd]

@Rueyful If you think the discussion ends where some fool thinks I don't know what I'm talking about you're sorely mistaken. Happening to be a citizen of one of the aforementioned countries I tend to have generally a better idea of the life we live in here. And for the uneducated I've never criticized our countries as we are not Socialistic regimes up in here !! That's what the former Eastern block was as are some pseudodemocracies with two party system and illusion they got a freedom of choice.

[Orry609]

@thebbeenn ...Canada isn't Socialist... Ugh. We are a conservative government, and when we're not conservative we're centrist (what we call liberal)

[SL1200Ltd]

@thebbeenn We the Northern countries are not socialistic by definition the title is democracy and this is the thing that prevents bad things happening here, every side has a say on things, unlike in USA where the two parties are essentially the same. There are some social programs that are helping people but they are also making people dependable on them. I agree there are certain groups, elderly, disabled etc that need it but there are people who think it's better to stay on welfare than work.

[SL1200Ltd]

@thebbeenn By the way, glad that you told me what the real research of (our Nordic societies & life in here) is as I didn't know how to do that before - As I just happen to live in here and always have lived. I guess I didn't get properly nuanced image of my own sphere of world just by living the life.

[Orry609]

@SL1200Ltd Never in the history of human kind eh...

I knew Norwegians weren't human. Pass the fail.

[SL1200Ltd]

@Orry609 Norway is not purely socialistic nation, and luckily for us Northern people we do have common sense which prevents us for going into the real depths of socialistic persecution systems like the USSR was. Nonetheless the gov'ts up here do tend to want too much control in peoples lives keep unnecessary registries on our activities and tax and double/triple tax everything. Not to mention the movement of rewriting past and try to make our history look bad and "racist" in order to program us.

[SthrnFrogII]

@yvwijo Jesus was not a socialist. Yes He helped people, and yes He wants us to help those who can't do for themselves, but He wants people to do it freely from their heart because they want to. Socialism is not the process of giving, it is the process of taking from you to give to another. Jesus did not take from anyone. There is a vast difference between charity and socialism.

[yvwijo]

@SthrnFrogII I agree partialy. I think people who are blind for the misery of otehr people are not really Humans. Helping eachother should be normal.

I prever socialism over charity, because there are to much selfish bastards on this planet who won't give a F about people who can't help themselves.

(and NO i dont like communism, com alnd soc are not the same)

[Chiellemoos]

@SthrnFrogII Actually Socialism is not the process of taking from you to give to another. It is the thought that freedom can only come from true equality. Marxist socialism states that the concept of currency used in capitalism inhibits that equality and fosters inequality. Jesus preached the equality of all people. There lies a link with socialist thought. I'm not saying that Jesus was a socialist. But your definition of socialism as an anti-social ideology.is ludicrous. Peace out!

[BloatedSensations]

@SthrnFrogII Jesus preached vehemently about helping the poor. Take a look around you - capitalism DOES NOT work to that end - it's not getting the job done. In fact, it's designed to do exactly the opposite - the constant creation of new poverty is a requisite to the functioning of a capitalist system. Jesus may not have been socialist - at least not in the purest form of the word - but he SURE AS HELL would not have been a capitalist.

[BloatedSensations]

@BloatedSensations ...this stands whether you support capitalism, or not. The point is, a move toward socialism - and away from the world's current predominant economic system, which is capitalism - is a move toward being more in line with the teachings of Christian scripture. Not everything is always entirely about you, you mung-headed ponce.

[BloatedSensations]

@SthrnFrogII Acts 4:32-35: "All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had. ...There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need." ...does that sound closer to socialism or capitalism to you?

[SthrnFrogII]

@BloatedSensations Why are you coming at me with capitalism? Did I purpose capitalism? NO. If you studied a bit more you would know that the scenario you mention of Acts did not last. It was not long at all before people began complaining that their needs were not being met and no longer continued with "everything in common". My entire comment had to do with charity vs socialism, NOT capitalism. Try to comprehend and not attacking.

[Oceanstorm80]

@SthrnFrogII In socialism, the whole community or groups have an opened mind to their problems. For that reason, they try to help those who do not have any help and try to stabilize them in the society. Charity in capitalism? There is no charity in the capitalism, only a way to make propaganda and "legal tax cuts". Of course, in this world its rare to see a real socialist country or group.

[clonirani]

@Oceanstorm80 You are in wrong.You have it,in Norway,Sweden...I know,system,there, is not socialisam! "Charity in capitalism?" Yes,they have it,and it works,excellent!

[Oceanstorm80]

@clonirani No, you are wrong, and no, there is not charity in capitalism, only some kind of interest to reduce your taxes in a legal way. Works excellent? Then...why we all have this global economical problem right now?

[clonirani]

@Oceanstorm80 Not all,but almost.Because of this,I mentioned Norway,Sweden...!

[Oceanstorm80]

@clonirani For that reason, you cannot say "you are wrong". For that reason, I din't use that phrase in my first comment. And, for your last comment, only including Norway and Sweden in a capitalist world, they are not excluded of this global crisis that actually caught the capistalist world. Just wait if the Hormuz situation goes bad.

[clonirani]

@Oceanstorm80 For that reason I can to say you,what I said,because I know it is possible...

[SL1200Ltd]

@Oceanstorm80 The biggest capitalist are also the biggest socialists, look at all the big business/bank bailouts or just go and learn from the history of the socialistic movement and who truly are behind it all, who financed it & revolutions tells the answer.

The charity organizations and trust funds, whatever tax evasion systems there are, of course do not fit into the definition of socialism but then again the leaders of socialistic movements never practice what they preach. They want it all

[Oceanstorm80]

@SL1200Ltd Because, those never was true socialists. And that was the movements critized as today. There is a lot of groups, partys and movements that they said they are socialist, but they not. There is several gardeners that have the seeds of corruption looking in the fields of the people...

[SL1200Ltd]

@Oceanstorm80 Yes, and because Socialists never have been nor never will be what they say they are. Some people with good ntentions are misled to believe there is something good in it because it pictures all these nice things and care for people, but when you go and study the origins of socialism you will see it is nothing but evil genocidal crap put upon us by the elite bankers, rich zionist jews and illuminati crazy ass psychopaths. Karl Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, all financed by them & work 4 them

[skateboarderlucc]

@SL1200Ltd Scandinavia is mostly composd of socialist countries, and it has the best quality of life on the planet. It isnt so bad dude.

[UsedToBeConsumer]

@SthrnFrogII i think he is talking about "false Messiah" the Antichrist not Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ as we all know couldn't teach something wrong

[pbodymathis]

@yvwijo What Jesus lived and taught was to not put our faith in worldly possessions or governments by men but in God himself. As Jesus walked among us, he never worked a job but was never without anything. God provided food, clothing, and shelter and will do the same for His people. We tend to put our faith in our possessions and place in society to make us feel accomplished. People are made to contribute in Socialism and it is never distributed equally.

[pbodymathis]

@pbodymathis cont. Jesus wants us to give willingly and to trust Him. Our reward is in heaven, not of this earth.



[AppalachianKnight77]

Illuminati ----they will rise!!!!!!!!

[MrLawliePawp]

@AppalachianKnight77 And we will stop them.

[youdhateme]

i think i would need a bit more proof. what is so bad about socialism, it helps out the people who need help, doesnt it? i dont understand through the explanation given, why its of the antichrist.

[Kenzofeis]

@youdhateme What is bad about socialism? The idiots that always climb up to run things, and those who willfully seeks to pervert things and twist it to their benefit.

Socialism sounds nice to those who wants a free lunch. These are feeding off those who have initiatives. It drags practically everyone down to a common denominator - while a few are opportunists and place themselves on top of it.

So, basically, it is not really that different from a farm.

[vivaelchecarajo]

@Kenzofeis If socialism is so bad then why the U.S is using socialism to save its economy...you must be one of those people that have been brain wash by the tools of capitalistic imperialism....your argument is the same one used by all the ignorant that believe in capitalism..."Keep your government hands of my medicare" or "Dont steal from medicare to support socialized medicine"

[Kenzofeis]

@vivaelchecarajo Response: A long list of "no".

[SL1200Ltd]

@vivaelchecarajo Idiot, socialism is destroying US economy and it is used for just that purpose by the treacherous elements within the gov't and business powers.

[Kenzofeis]

@youdhateme Regarding "anti Christ" - the word "anti" also means "in place of" or "vicar". Now, think a little about that.

[sweffe96]

I think the scandinavian countries disagrees. Did I mention Norway is the best country in the world? Oh, its also socialistic.

[EPGAH]

@sweffe96 It also has maybe 1/40 the population of any of the major countries, and has a strong immigration system to keep out freeloaders. But slowly freeloaders are creeping in by claiming you're "racist" if you keep them out...We'll see how long that stays sustainable when other countries dump losers looking for a free lunch on them...