"His voice is not silenced!"

[beatlesfan4127]

what the hell? How can someone go onto land that doesn't even belong to them, then kill somone else who has every freakin right to be there?! How can that fukin rancher bitvh live with himself? Greedy little faggot.

[19HurdyGurdyMan46]

Thankyou for this. Lets hope enough people see this and do something about it.

[cayapo]

C'MON, LET'S ALL GET A LONG..........

[KaraJayneee]

@MyVoicenotSilenced As I recal,you contacted me first mate

[KaraJayneee]

@MyVoicenotSilenced lol what the fuck is ur problem, you really wanna start

a youtube fight?

[KaraJayneee]

@MyVoicenotSilenced Dude, I dont even remember watching this video.

It was 6 months ago. Move on from my comment

[KaraJayneee]

im all for protecting the amazon tribe.

But she just rants on

[MsExoticBliss]

I'm hurting. I'm indigenous i live in usa I want to help.

[arafel1964]

It is THEIR land so they must have the first rights on their land. It is incredible that yet another indigenous nation is victim of a capitalist, corrupt and greedy group of people and that the Brazilian government seems to do little to help them. It are because of uncompassionate people like 'urbanxi' below that this kind of sad situations occur; people who care about nothing but their own little world.

[MTCatman]

Anytime any peoples are killed and run off their land, there is a great injustice! Usually this is in the name of money in one way or another. Very sad indeed! Thanks for sharing!

[tanyasbigbrowneyes]

and you urbanxii are a school yard bully

[urbanxii]

Looks like you drones get a little worked up when your precious repetition is interupted. All my posts were pruned, so I'll take that as your surrender.

You are hysterical, shrieking children.

[tanyasbigbrowneyes]

well said Antifaman09...couldnt have said it better.*****

[Antifaman09]

And what do you know about Yugoslavia anyway?

[Antifaman09]

My God, how dense you are, urbanxii. Stop implying we are marxist commies and shit like that because it only shows you don't know anything. So we are comparing numbers of victims now are we? Like that should matter. Idiot! Life was hard before the internet? That's the stupidest brainfart I've ever heard. Tell me how the internet have made people's lifes more comfortable. And the Army of God was rock 'n roll? How little you know of militant Christians & that for an American where it is homegrown!

[urbanxii]

LOL Yugoslavia is not a part of Western Europe. There is no doubt that the Balkans share the structural cultural flaws of the 3rd world.

As for the KKK, if you think that the KKK with its 4,000 victims, however terrible that may be, is somehow the equivalent of what went on in Sierra Leone or Rwanda, you're out of your mind.

"Army of God"....well here I think thats a group of Evangelical rock and roll groups. Very scary. Over in Africa its 10,000 men armed with AK-47s and machetes.

[Antifaman09]

And it's colonialism that caused corrupt leaders like Mugabe to be in Africa in the first place. Don't pretend we gave it back to Africans. It's all a game to make the third world that we created forever dependent on our economies. The raping ans stealing is still going on today as we speak.

[urbanxii]

LOL Really? Mugabe was one of your beloved Communist Revolutionaries who rose to power promising to give the white man 'what for'. Then he had his thugs kick out all the white farmers, and now Zimbabwe starves because these veterans don't know how to farm.

Africa was on the road to a peaceful an harmonious existance under colonialism. Even Africans know that now, after htey've seen what 50 years of Marxist bullshit has done for them.

[Antifaman09]

Actually it's western cuture that is toxic to this earth, destroying the natural world and poluting with chemicals and radioactive waste.

[urbanxii]

Rubbish. Wipe your tears for all the green fields and pretty trees on your well made clothes in your climate controlled house a few miles from the modern hospital down the street. You sit like a bloated tick on a civilization you take for granted.

You need to learn more about history, to learn how hard life really was for people before the Internet.

[Antifaman09]

You are taking nature's resources for granted. In your materialistic greed you live in the delusion that the supply will be endless. Many people catch contagious diseases in modern hospitals and the food often sucks. Give me herbs and organic food any time. And the relatively stress free life in a rainforest.

Tell us how the internet has made our lifes comfortable, you idiot.

[colibri1]

That argument that computers and the internet have made everything better is ridiculous! Not only does the production of computers require vast land destruction to obtain the plastics and metals needed, but the use of computers ruins the eyesight and exposes users to cancer-causing electromagnetic radiation. While urbanxii may not care that entire peoples are wiped out in the quest for the materials needed for his beloved computers, he may find his own health compromised from their use.

[KaraJayneee]

@Antifaman09 I agree so much.

yet with one thing im not so sure.

Now, with the tribe's hadnt they grown up in that area, being aware of their surroundings such as the very venomous spiders and snakes.

If you were to go to the rainforest for the "peaceful" life, it wouldnt be so peacful if an anaconda got to ya

[Antifaman09]

I don't value human life too much? It's you who don't care what happens to these people which you have been saying repeatedly in this topic! The cause of the suicides are NOT cultural, you idiot! And I never spoke of a "valid act". There is nothing wrong with their culture. There is something wrong with the criminal rangers who take their land kill off indigenous people who are protesting it.

[urbanxii]

I care about civilization and progress. These people are better off for vaccinations and the written word and education. Its foolish rootless cosmopolitans like yoruself who do them a disservice, indulging their victim narratives.

[lonwitness]

They come with the spirit of the evil one, change the spirit of the land and man follows.

[tanyasbigbrowneyes]

and the First People of the world are the caretakers of this earth...people like you defile it, rape it and expect that this earth will always b here..

[tanyasbigbrowneyes]

take an Indigenous persons culture and land away and they will grow up...empty and suicidal! growing up does not mean a life of machines and people. That is yr preconception...why impose that on those that dont want that lifestyle? you I assume are a westerner...that does not know the true meaning of culture, life in its most beautiful and simplest form. I some how dont think yr sorry either!

[urbanxii]

Pfffft. Life without modernity is brutal and harsh. You watch too much television. There is nothing beautiful about subsistanace living. Though of course, you probably don't value human life too much.

After all, 'life' is worth less than the political aims of this tribe. THats why you think that children killing themselves is a valid act, and an indictment of BRAZIL rather than the culture they're living in.

[tanyasbigbrowneyes]

and you are just assuming that they are indoctrinating thier children....its is the same effect that happens to children in war torn countries...they also have a higher suicide rate...their parentsdidnt tell them to do that. yr talking to the wrong person mate...I am a member of Ausrtalias stolen generation...I speak from experience. That is the answer from some one who is ethnically biased. Why should these children grow up not knowing thier culture?

[urbanxii]

Because their culture is toxic if they're being allowed or encouraged to kill themselves.

No, child suicide is not normal in war torn countries. It is decidedly abnormal. Only 3% of Russian males born in 1922 survived WWII. Three percent. Russia did not have a problem with child suicide.

[Hottidownunda1]

it just breaks me too see the heartache we cause one another..WE CAUSE THIS..be it by fear, hate or greed WE cause it..

[qualqui]

sister of the Guarani Nation, my heart and soul goes out in condolence and hope for justice, justice of Tonantzin and Pachamama!

[tanyasbigbrowneyes]

my heart is with you and yr people.

[trentinoten]

'Who cares'?

Well, I care. The theft of the Guarani's land is part of a pattern that stretches back 500 years. In many cases, it has led to the total destruction of entire peoples. In the Guarani's case, "merely" murder, suicide and poverty.

[urbanxii]

I think it is illuminating that you, and I assume people like you, think that children comitting suicide is a symptom of a larger societal problem rather than the product of bizarre indoctrination and child abuse.

Of course, thats if it is even really happening. The claim that 'children are comitting suicide' could be just another lie. Yet another propagandist trope to induce belly gazing in Western culture.

Not that they need any help with that anymore.

[survivalintl]

A report available to download from the Survival website titled 'Progress can kill: how imposed development destroys the health of tribal peoples' sets out the context of the wave of suicides amongst the Guarani, who suffer one of the highest suicide rates in the world.

The report also provides statistics and evidence (some readers may find the photos disturbing, however).

[urbanxii]

Then if it is true that children are killing themselves among these people, then the people are irresponsible wards of these children.

We don't think twice about taking children away from cults who encourage mass suicide. The authorities in that country should do the same. Assimilate them to save them from their parent's suicidal ethnic chauvenism.

[Jenfucius]

@survivalintl

(Going slightly off topic.)

Cant Survival International have some sort of adoption progrom for dwidling tribes?

Like there are so many abandon babies & children in third world countries why not give them to tribes who would care for them and help raise their own population numbers at the same time???

[urbanxii]

"Hundreds of Guarani.......children have committed suicide."

What? Why are CHILDREN comitting suicide over LAND disputes? If children are comitting 'suicide' out of protest for loss of land, perhaps these children need to be taken away from these people in order to keep them from listening to harmful political propaganda which causes them to take their own lives.

[trentinoten]

Your dry reference to land disputes hides the ugly reality. In fact, the loss of the Guarani's land profoundly impacts all areas of their lives. Guarani children are starving to death, for goodness sake. If seeing your friends and siblings starving doesn't make you suicidal, what will?

Forcibly removing children from their parents, in the tradition of dealing with indigenous peoples everywhere, is just another way of destroying them. I imagine you know that, judging from your comment below.

[urbanxii]

Who cares if ''the loss of the Guarani's land profoundly impacts all areas of their lives'? There is no doubt that life offers a certain amount of hardship. It is not a surprise that this hardship leads people to suicide.

But CHILDREN are not acceptable practitioners of suicide. If CHILDREN are comitting suicide, they're doing it because of things they're being told by their parents. Mexico city has significant poverty and child suicide isn't common.

[tanyasbigbrowneyes]

that is a disqusting suggestion....removal of children is not an option...easy for you to say as an outsider...these people and all first peoples ARE the land...how about removing the invaders!!!!!!!!!!!!! that comment is highly offensive.

[urbanxii]

It doesn't matter if its 'highly offensive' to you, its true. I don't live in la-la land. If parents are indoctrinating their children to comit suicide, then the children should be taken away from them. Thats child abuse.

And LOLs to your "first peoples are the land". Tell that to the Picts. Tell that to the Wends. Tell that to the pre-Congolese Africans. What a ridiculous notion.

Sorry, now is an age of machines and people. Time for us all to grow up.

[urbanxii]

We shouldn't take the outrage of barbarians too seriously.

[trentinoten]

It's precisely this kind of racism which has caused the destruction of indigenous peoples around the world.

[urbanxii]

Racism? Who is talking about the biological capabilities of these people?

Are YOU suggesting that their cultural situation is due to their biology? If so, that sounds racist.

Sorry, but on a hierarchy of virtues, cultures can be measured without the measure being 'racist'. It is hard to argue that the cultural and social model of Western Europe isn't 'better than' the Balkans. Its hard to argue that Scandinavia doesn't have a better model than the Congo.

[trentinoten]

Where did you figure that I'm suggesting that their cultural situation is due to their biology?!

Quite, quite barking!

[Antifaman09]

I really detest you, urbanxii. Not only are you racist by suggesting that some cultures are better than other, you are also without any compassion to human suffering. And yes, I DO argue with your haughty idea that Scandinavia would be a better model than the Congo.

[urbanxii]

Then you're a fool. The corrupt powers of the Congo had children soldiers hacking up the shattered remnant of rape victims and throw them into ditches at the side of the village. If you don't see why thats an inferior social norm, then you're an idiot.

More than that, you're a coward. You're so busy trying to pat yourself on the back for your 'understanding' and 'tolerance' that you no longer undstand 'better' or 'worse'. The people of the Congo aren't happy. YOUR TYPE are part of the problem

[Antifaman09]

Urbanxii, you are digusting me more and more now. Let's talk about social norms: what about street gangs, domestic violence, Dutroux and other sex monsters, littering, growing violence in public transport, Bloody Sunday in Northern Island? It's actually you who is patting himself on the back by thinking you're in any way better than others.

[urbanxii]

What about street gangs?There are countries in Sub-Saharan Africa who are RULED by guys who are little more than street gangs. What about domestic violence? Violence against women in Africa is a serious social problem. What about Bloody Sunday in Northern Ireland? How does that stack up against Mugabe's death squads?

I am patting myself on the back. Europe is a better place to live than Africa. Wake up. Armies of child soldiers are hacking apart villages and you're talking about subway violence

[tanyasbigbrowneyes]

this video isnt about street gangs! thats what westerners gave birth to.

[pimbadoti]

este e brasil . eu sou o indio com orgulho

naci em sud america vivendo no europa

LAMENTO MUITO