English air attack on Kriegsmarine ships in Norway(Jul 1940)

[councilglasses]

Giving the Hun a bloody nose,bit like the EU fantastic

[FrancoHitlini]

People use this term "revisionism" yet the study of history very often is just that. Sometimes we have to step back and ask questions which were not asked at the time because most people were not in a position (or of a mind) to ask them. The reality is that so many judgements were made post war based on the emotion and propaganda of the time that had consequences which have never gone away. People still make decisions based on those judgements and are blinded by many perpatuated falsehoods.

[ZedBazinga]

British air attacks, not English.

[CanadaUK01]

Regardless, I hope they nailed the Germans!!!!!!

[notaire2]

Very rare footage of the Norwegian front. Thanks!

[socomsix19]

FUCK EVERYBODY WHO IS GERMAN .... DEATH TOO GERMANY long live USA

[dividednation44]

@socomsix19 FUCK YOU, FUCK YOUR SHIT OF COUNTRY, DEATH TO PILES OF SHIT LIKE YOU. EAT A DICK, YOUR WHORE OF A COUNTRY IS NOTHING BUT A ZIONIST PUPPET, FAGGOT

[rampegutten123]

did the english peps attack tha germans?

[felixlinquist]

and what about the Canadians? We rock at hockey!

[make1up726]

Now all you gotta do is weaponize the hockey puck xD fill it with c4 and let 'er rip.

[veritascrusader]

Great video of the German Navy hiding away in the Norwegian Fiords and elsewhere. All they were good for!!!!

[Robert111]

@veritascrusader Yes, and the British how to keep half their fleet tied up in the area in case they would come out, stupid ass.

[veritascrusader]

@Robert111 True, no stomach for a straight fight with the RN, stupid ass!

[jrobertsoneff]

@veritascrusader And for occupying norway under the royal navys nose.

[veritascrusader]

@jrobertsoneff Ah yes, you mean an unprovoked attack on a defenceless country, that was one of the Nazis specialities as I recall!

[historatia]

@veritascrusader I take it hat you also recall that the Germans made it into Norway 24 hours before the British attack ordered by Churchill. The strategic importance may be beyond someone who moralizes so sarcastically. Churchill's order was known, and this was NOT an 'unprovoked' attack. Read the wiki site at Operation Weseruebung. Churchill made it necessary.

[jrobertsoneff]

@jrobertsoneff I think thier speciality was attacking by land .brittania was supposed to rule the waves.Anyway didn't we attack two days  later with 20,000 men against 2',ooo.

[christopherobyne]

to be politically correct yes we are all brothers in arms under one umberella BRITANIA aka Great Britian but to be fair the welsh the scots and the irish all seek there own identity and quite rightly so because before i am british im absolutely ENGLISH but as an englishman i would fight and offer my life for a scotsman an irish man or a welsh man without question but know this the English conquerd and founded Great Britian Great Britian founded and civilised the world we never conquerd it !!!!

[jpd84]

Actually England never conquered Scotland, the treaty of Union created Britian it was not brought about through English conquest. England needed a secure northern border as it was at war with France and Scotland was bankrupt through the failed Darien colony in Panama so needed stability, so it suited both to unite.

The air attack on this video was probably mounted from a Scottish airbase aswell, as were pretty much all raids conducted on Norway and the North Atlantic by the raf and navy.

[piacentini]

christopherobyne

Romans founded Britannia,gave name to the island,as well as londinium city,bridge

of Londinium,and the tower of Londinium!

We gave Tartan,Bag Pipe,Kilt,Baths,Arms,

Language,roads,freedom,laws .

Britannia is Roman, and Rome spread civilization, britannia name comes from bretagna, the french region

how cud you dare !!!

Read Mac Auley shortened history of

England, " the english is the most mingled of the races"

[historatia]

@christopherobyne That is, or course to conveniently forget the horrors you brought to so much of the world. The subjected see it VERY differently. Even in WWII Churchill forced the export from Bangladesh of the food stocks and over four million were allowed to starve to death. In Canada your forced in the Great Lakes handed out diseased blankets to the natives. You may believe your own propaganda, but the rest of the world does not.

[councilglasses]

@historatia Horror happens all the time,the weak are crushed by the strong,we just did'nt build factories to do it

[historatia]

Respond to this video... In the Boer War Lord Kitchener forced the wives and children of Boer fighters into concentration camps and demanded the men surrender. Kitchener starved to death over 45,000 women and children that way.

[NearAbbeyRoad]

@historatia

" In the Boer War Lord Kitchener forced the wives and children of Boer fighters into concentration camps and demanded the men surrender"

After being defeated, the Boers resorted to terror tactics and they were taken from their farms as a result. This reduced food production and the army was not good enough to organize the massive volumes of food needed for the camps.

[historatia]

@christopherobyne Hitler had said that (paraphrase).."The English will not go to war with us because they know that it will cost them their empire." Hitler was wrong and right. The English were stupid enough to do it, (but after first ignoring their obligation to their Polish allies), and when it was over, the exhausted "English" lost the empire in record time. The unintended consequence has made Hitler a hero in much of the world.

[jonnieunix]

@historatia The British, her Dominion Allies and the French were the only nations to go to war on a principle during WW2. That principle was the defence of Poland, 6 years of war and many casualties both service and civilian was hardy ignoring our ‘obligation’. Yes Poland did have to live under the USSR yoke for 40 years but in 1945 what else could we do?

[historatia]

@jonnieunix 1. To ask "but in 1945 what else could we do" is the ultimate ridiculous question because it is AFTER the fact. First, I STRONGLY disagree that "defence of Poland " is a "principle". It was a continuation of Britiains three century long policy of advancing its empire interests by keeping Europe divided (as in fighting Napoleon. Second Britain SHOULD have (a) never committed the horrific oppression of Versailles, and (b) after David L George admitted it, moved to have it corrected.

[NearAbbeyRoad]

@historatia

You are some sort of idiotic NAZI apologist.

[historatia]

@jonnieunix 2. Meddling in European continental affairs -- a British specialty for centuries -- was not something done "on principle", but on sheer power politics. It continued while the UK was already coming apart with the Irish revolt. Drawing in "America" and then hobbling/dismembering Germany while the Bolshevik threat was already rising the British put ALL OF EUROPE at risk. While Hitler worked to put Germany back together (Danzig) and oppose communism (Spain) Britain opposed Germany.

[historatia]

@jonnieunix 3. The British USED a ROGUE POLAND encouraging in February 1919 its massive aggressive war against Russia and finally allowed it to REFUSE to recognize the Curzon Line --( League of Nations imposed) while allowing/encouraging the Poles to imprisoned a 97% German  Danzig. Britain Stalin hated the British for encouraging and supporting that Polish aggression, and it was HE who offered Hitler the 1939 pact to get the Russian lands of "east of Curzon" back from Poland.

[jonnieunix]

@historatia I suppose it was Britain’s fault the Hitler felt obliged to implement the final solution then?

[historatia]

@jonnieunix No Jonnie, and do NOT put words in my mouth. Hitler never "felt obligated" to implement the "final solution". That he sought the extirpation of the Jews from Europe is clear. I believe he allowed it to happen AFTER December 11, 1941 when the U.S. declared war -- having actually already been at war with Germany as the huge arms factories and logistic support. He believed that US Jews got the US into the war against Germany militarily, and took revenge against European Jews for it.

[jonnieunix]

@historatia I do believe Hitler had a few issues with Jews prior to Dec 1941, to be fair he was ever so slightly biased against them don’t you think? Anyway I have wasted enough time and effort on you. I hope for your sake that after a lifetime of hard work (I respect you for that) that you lighten up and enjoy the autumn of you life. Fair well my friend and bon chance.

[historatia]

@jonnieunix Of course Hitler had "a few issues" with the Jews prior to December 41. Surely you are aware that the Jewish emigrations started already in the early 1930's (before Hitler came to power) as the German economy had 32 % unemployment in December 1932. His attitutudes led to an extirpation/expulsion policy. In 1937 Eichman and Hagen actually negotiated with the Hagenah in the then Palestine, but the British refuse to allow the German Jews to emigrate there legally.

[historatia]

@jonnieunix Be sure to understand that this is an EXPLANATION, and is not to be interpreted as an apologia or that I support Hitler. No, the British were not "responsible" for the final solution. They contributed strongly to the re-ignition of war in 1939 AND -- by Churchill REFUSING the May 41 Hess peace mission, -- the unleashing of war pitting the Germans against the Russians. When America then partnered with Stalin to bail Russia out, THEN the "final solution" was the revenge.

[historatia]

@jonnieunix Understand as part of that that I believe/theorize that Hitler realized on the US entry into the war -- six months AFTER the pre-emptive strike on Russia -- that Germany was likely to loose the war, and THEN -- holding the US Jews responsible, unleashed the "final solution" as revenge. That at least fits all timelines and known information and actually accords with his own prior warnings to the US to keep out.

[NearAbbeyRoad]

@historatia

"holding the US Jews responsible, unleashed the "final solution" as revenge"

Wrong. Germany was using the US as a precedence in taking land, and its resources, to their east - US took land to their west and got rich, so they do the same. But the east was full of people that had to be eliminated to create Hitlers Continental empire of Germans. They started to clear the taken lands of its people, not just Jews, in line with the big plan. Nothing to do with US Jews.

[historatia]

@jonnieunix 4. Hitler was a sharp cookie. He understood the horrors the British would stoop to as with the genocidal crushing of the Boer Repulbics (slaughtering over 50% of their children under 16 in concentration camps run by Lord Kitchener). He saw through the Americans and recognized her steady empire-building capturing the Spanish "possessions", and -- after Versailles -- its designs on British "possessions". He understood the Irish revolts.

[jonnieunix]

@historatia No Hitler was not a sharp cookie he was a f**king loon who polices led to the murder of millions, the deaths of many, the Cold War and economic stagnation in Eastern Europe. If you want to sling mud at the British fine, there is a lot of it about but don't be so stupid to stick up for a man like that. It's fools like you who make history repeat itself. Travel, see things, meet people, listen and start to understand the world before it is to late.

[historatia]

@jonnieunix I don't have to "stick up" for Hitler. I don't support the Hitlerian view of the world. All I have to do is agree with the like of AJP Taylor the Emeritus Professor of History from Oxford, and the British historian Ian Kershaw (the most informed on Hitler) and the understandings of Niall Ferguson Professor of History and International Finance at Harvard. Are we all "stupid"? You must think so. I think you only see things through the HAZE of British propaganda.

[historatia]

@jonnieunix As an economist who works internationally with a home both here in Canada and in Europe I travel much more than I really want to. I've worked the Europe and Middle Eastern oil states beat for over 30 years, but also done stints for the UN in the former British colonies. Your point? What I gave you is a history of the fateful choices the British made and the TRUE "why", and you parrot back some nonsense and shift to the "final solution" as justification? Rubbish.

[jonnieunix]

@historatia I suppose you feel that the UK is preventing a United Europe again? What with the Euro crisis putting Germany in a strong position of governorship and those dastardly British retaining the Pounds. After all the Pound is a symbol of a once powerful empire that oppressed and starved poor people in its making etc etc etc…..

[historatia]

@jonnieunix No I don't think the UK is preventing a United Europe again. The British are now so reduced (not even one British car maker left, etc) that its diminished influence means that it is comparatively irrelevant, especially after Maggie Thatcher failed to make London the per-eminent European financial center. Sorry.

[historatia]

@jonnieunix Your writing off of Hitler as a f**king loon is the mark of someone who has not studied. It may not have dawned on you yet, but if Hitler was a loon, then he was in a loonie bin well populated with fellow loons like Josef Beck, and Rydz-Smigly, the leading Polish loons, Churchill and the part of the cabinet that decided to continue the war by refusing the peace offereing Hess brought, (Hitler's first act of desparation on seeing the Russian build-up for attack -- read Suvarov)

[NearAbbeyRoad]

@historatia

"Your writing off of Hitler as a f**king loon is the mark of someone who has not studied"

The word "loon" is right. In 1939 UK/French economies were 60% larger than the German/Italian. UK/French forces dwarfed German. Yet this LOON attacks and makes war. No one sane facing that economic and military might would do such a thing. The fact that in 1940 Germany gambled on an untried tactic called Blitzkrieg and got France, is irrelevant. In Aug 41 Hitler was talking of peace

[historatia]

@jonnieunix Maybe you should travel, see things and meet people, gain an understanding of the world that is not clouded by the British "self-image". I spent a childhood growing up in war rubble and two years as a correspondent on the ground in Vietnam (north and south), I have a few years under my belt, watched for a time as the Vietnamese loose 3,100,000 dead to their war of independence from the likes of France andthe US. Amongst Churchill, Hilter, Stalin and Roosevelt, which were NOT loons?

[jonnieunix]

@historatia Oh I have travelled far and wide around the world, I’ve lived in Germany and spent time in some of the same regions as you. I have studied and I’ve met a fair few people like yourself who hold the same opinions as you. If you don’t agree with it then its ‘British Propaganda’ if I don’t agree with you then I haven’t ‘Studied’. I just think you’re a narrow-minded bigot and can’t think for yourself so you just clutch at anything really.

[historatia]

@jonnieunix I've done series of guest lectures in international economics and international affairs at British universities as well as elsewhere. Your one of those who "default" in the blink of an eye to the "Germans are evil jew-killers" comment which -- illustrates a lack of insight -- and marks you as one of those who DEFINITELY haven't "Studied". That comment is the hallmark of the ignorant who are completely certain of their own convictions. Educated Brits are more thoughtful.

[jonnieunix]

@historatia I do not default to Germans as evil Jew killers; having lived and made friends there I know that’s not true. What I do know is that the Nazis were an inherently evil regime and no amount of revisionism will change that no matter how much you try to intellectualise your augment. For all of Britain’s many faults, we made the correct choice in Sep 39 despite the cost to the Empire and our status in the post war word.

[historatia]

@jonnieunix First of all you defaulted the the "Germans are Jew killers" line with remarkable speed so you DO what you now said you do not do. Second KNOW you don't know enough about the NSDAP to make such a judgment. I an neither a NAZI supporter (quite the opposite in fact) a revisionist, nor an "intellectualizer". What I point out to you is that the decision made on September 31 was fine, but NOT made for the noble cause you claim! That is pure BS. The British USED the Poles. Shame!

[NearAbbeyRoad]

@historatia

"The British USED the Poles. Shame!"

I fail to see where the UK used the Poles. The UK & France gave an assurance to Poland & Romania's borders. They did not sell them out in 1945. The US & UK had no option but to go with Stalin. The Red Army was massive and mighty powerful.

There was debate over Poland in 1945. Japs wanted peace and tried to get it via the USSR, which they had a peace pact. Stalin ignored them. A-bomb was dropped as a demonstrative act to the USSR

[historatia]

@jonnieunix It does not serve the TRUTH to try to cloak yourselves in moralistic glory where that was certainly NOT the British intent. Nor did Britain actually undertake the military actions that the joint British-French-Polish war plans finalized in late February 1939 actually call for. Britain BETRAYED the Poles who moved into a counter-attack posture from March 39 on and thereby weakened their defenses. Got that? or is that news to you? The documents were captured by the Russians.

[NearAbbeyRoad]

@historatia

" Britain BETRAYED the Poles who moved into a counter-attack posture"

The British were in no position to assist the Poles with a large enemy land mass to cover. First day of war the RN blockade was set up starving Germany of vital food and raw materials. France could have attacked in strength over the German border, but never. All were expecting Germany to pull out of Poland, why the Phony War came about. In hindsight it would have been better if France rolled over the German border

[NearAbbeyRoad]

The German navy was dramatically reduced in the Norwegian campaign. To the point it was of no consequence in 1940. Invade the UK?  With what?

[historatia]

@jonnieunix 5. Hitler as an ally actually SUPPORTED the British keeping the empire. He predicted the British would figure out that working WITH a re-established Germany in Europe to hold back the communist tide, (after Spain) would help it avoid the collapse. He was WRONG. the British preferred to the spread of communism, and the enslavement of half of Europe. By now the UK is internationally unimportant and internally disintegrating. Earned and deserved it fate!

[jonnieunix]

@historatia The British did not prefer the spread of communism nor the spread of fascism they are both oppressive societies but I’m sure you of fitted right in to either supporting the state and keeping an eye on your neighbours. Yes we lost an empire but then it was never ours to keep, at least we recognised that early on and tried to peacefully hand it over to a democracy unlike some counties who held on for to long.

[NearAbbeyRoad]

@historatia

"Hitler as an ally actually SUPPORTED the British keeping the empire"

Not an ally. Just not make war with Germany.

"the British preferred to the spread of communism, and the enslavement of half of Europe"

The only loon is you.

"By now the UK is internationally unimportant and internally disintegrating"

The UK is world's 4th largest economy and London the centre of International finance.

Youtube search on "John Perkins", an ex US economic hit man. Then see why the US is hated

[kokosz33]

@christopherobyne "founded and civilised the world" you realy belive that?

Too bad civilisation doesnt bring happynes to people

[lofi73]

Germans must have felt invincible at that time.Country by country occupied and England was the only opposing force at this point.Eastern front and a couple of years down the road changed that.Luckily Hitler was´nt a good strategist.

[danlefou]

What's this "English" stuff? Weren't the Welsh, Scots, Northern Irish and various Commonwealth nations involved?

England as such last had armed forces in the17th Century!

[timpatjoe]

ha it was Englands empire

[Unterscharfuhrer]

Hitler and the Germans referred to Britain and the British as 'England' and 'The English.' They didn't recognise the rest.

[binaway]

@danlefou I agree and I'm English born, but the Germans used the Term England/English to refer to all of the British Empire/Commonwealth. All POW's from any Empire/Commonwealth country had an E number which literally meant English number. American POW's had an A number etc.

[jrobertsoneff]

@binaway If we are mostly saxons why not saxonland instead of angleland or better still kaziland

[Devsfan202]

Sehr Gut!

[Morgteck]

The German love of lively music sung by choruses of male voices is always evident in these propaganda films from the war. Germans love to sing! ;-) Nice shots of Scharnhorst and Gneisenau and some of the smaller vessels.

[mjeshaw]

When German troops sang this song as they marched around the channel ports in 1940, the local kids stomped along next to them making 'splash, splash' noises. This was to remind them that the lyrics of "Wir fahren gegen England" (Loosely translated - We're going to drive into England), took no account of the intervening channel or the British Navy.

[keegan773]

Propaganda is propaganda whoever publishes it!!!

[atlanticl]

true...

[RobertsDigital]

@keegan773 Nazis used more propaganda that anyone else... JUST look at Josef Goebbels..

[historatia]

@RobertsDigital What nonsense! Read the book (Times editor) by Philip Knightley titled, the First Casualty to get a flavour of the British Propaganda.