Ian Buruma: The Muslim Scare in Europe - Hysteria or Threat?

[KumarZimmerman08]

What don't you understand? EUROPEANS DON'T WANT MULTICULTURALISM. Europe is for Europeans. NOBODY ELSE.

[basscataz]

39:10 !!??

[elbazart]

I find Ian Buruma's views to be somewhat naive, even ridiculous at certain points.

For instance, he promises that there is no problem with the Muslim community in Europe, as long as everybody obeys the law and no one resorts to violence.

Well, that's exactly the point. How will you deal with the one's that do resort to violence and who do not respect the law? local law enforcement is already having a problem controlling the situation.

[Krifko]

Liberals need something new to believe in, only Buruma cannot name one thing. Kind of proves the right's point, doesn't it?

More than half of the law students in the Netherlands are female, Muslim AND wear a headscarf? Dream on, Mr Buruma. Does the audience really believe that the French still think just like their forefathers from the 18th century? How detached from reality is this man? The French don't see the 18th century Catholic church in headscarfs, they see ISLAM.

[JohnnyRock2000]

Muslim police states have been hugely supported by the West. Bribed and threatened for economic (oil) and political (Israel) reasons, there was bound to be rebellion. Now the West is faced with a situation that they more than helped take place. Democracy could prevail eventually, but who in the West wants to negotiate with 250 million people when it was so easy to pay off or threaten a Western puppet? Terms like Islamo-fascism just play the blame game.

[passionspit]

Get a job roder59 hahahahahaha

[roder59]

@passionspit intelligent!....not.

[roder59]

26:31 So, the Theo van Gogh murderer was a "victim" of a tolerant secular, democratic western society, totally in line with the old Edward Said dogma that all extremism in Islam is the result of western imperialism and supremacy. Islam is, according to Burama, always the victim, the west has to blame itself for killings, terror attacks and death threats. Read the Koran and study the imperialistic history of Islam, al-hijra and taqqija. It´s a shame,Burama excuses religious violence!

[mutattu]

@roder59 your own dogma clouds your judgement. I have disagreements with Buruma but he provides an intelligent and thoughtful analysis. At no point does he claim that Islam or the van Gogh assassin is a 'victim'. Nor does he excuse religious violence (a stupid notion). Listen again and try to think more objectively, hopefully you might learn something.

[roder59]

@mutattu As long as B and you leftists don´t recognize the core of Islam-the holy koran-and as long as the sc moderate muslims don´t outrage against islamic terror,bullying and fatwas,I insist that you are masochisticly tolerant to the imperialistic, totalitarian and violent intolerant(16:30).Learn this:draw logic lines and see patterns especially from history.Multiculturalism with islam is utopia: islam craves domination.B ridicules enlightenment, is a culture relativist and despises western IQ

[mutattu]

@roder59 Why are right wingnuts so stupid? ALL religious believers crave the domination of their own dogma and consider it superior to rivals. So? And where exactly does Buruma ridicule enlightenment - whoops, sorry, is that the bit where he shows how fascists hi-jacked the language of the Enlightenment? Wear your heart on your left sleeve perhaps. I didn't get where he despises western IQ (but in your case...) Get a life..

[roder59]

@mutattu Useless arguing with pig-headed appeasers, leftist dictatorship embracing, postmodern culture relativists like you, who continue sleeping while the world is afire, member of the sc "intelligent elite" despising the threat that the "plebs" recognizes because they are amidst it. It was you who attacked me personally first while I wanted a reasonnable debate. I treid to wake some, but goodnight, end of debate, period.

[mutattu]

@roder59 You don't want a reasonable debate - you lack the ability to use logic.

And yes - I'm just a grumpy old Marxist who thinks little boys playing with fascist toys are better off with a good kick up the arse..

[roder59]

@mutattu Why did you censor away my critical comment on your channel page?Typical leftist,marxist,information selection to fit the socialist cause.B,you and the left elite are masters in distorting facts and causes(talking about logic!), not able to see the main thread, contradicting yourself and smearing opponents.Who are the fascists threatening the West?Exactly, nice guess, and you are collaborating with these terror guys, appeacing and accusing the West itself(logic?).Understand?or to hard?

[roder59]

@mutattu You and your leftist illogical appeacing, masochisticly tolerating gurus are a very usefull tool to the rising, in religion hiding, fascist mob from outside and within the West, f ex CAIR. Just as Chamberlain appeacing nazist fascism in the old days. Follow me or to complicated to your 30 y childish brain?And then you describe yourself on your channel as being opposed to fascism, religious fundamentalism(sic!).Very logical! No, that´s naive, giving up freedom and democracy.

[roder59]

@mutattu I know, I intended to quit arguing with this marxist mutattu guy, but can´t omit referring him and other readers to this video:" Christopher Hitchens destroys leftist masochist in speech". Mr. mutt or whatever, you can´t have it both ways.Either you as an atheist take a firm stand against religious bullying, intimidation and terror or you choose to be a useful idiot, betraying the West that supplies you with your present freedom. Hitchens, by the way, used to be a marxist but he grew up

[roder59]

@mutattu Buruma and leftist members of the "reasoning elite" try to constitute an audience and earn a living by saying on the one hand this, but on the other that, cowardly holding with both sides and thereby contradicting himself,moreover psychologizing terrorists by western standards,not himself taking sides and giving his followers the illusion of a well balanced view on heavy stuff.The time for kitchen-table-filosophizing is over,so,consider T.Jefferson:price of freedom is eternal vigilance

[roder59]

@mutattu Introducing a relatively new axiom:1year-rule. Immediately after a major terror attack against the West EVERYBODY is able to tell apart bad from good, all is clear and people take sides.After approx. 1 year sight gets blurred;self-accusing, appeacement,pitying/psychologi­zing the perpetrators and problematizing starts.Several years since the latest strike so there are lots of muddy opinions.I´m convinced that the next strike will take the mud out of the eyes of leftists like Buruma.

[elbazart]

@mutattu Wrong!

Judaism is a non-missionary religion. It is even forbidden for Jewish rabbis to actively convert people to Judaism. Christianity is very much missionary, but the word of Christ is supposed to be spread peacefully (though that hasn't always been the case).

Muslims, on the other hand, are specifically instructed to spread their faith violently (look up "Sura of the sword" in the Koran). And so they do...

[DanHadan]

As an atheist, who has seen many fellow atheists root for people such as Ayaan Hirsi Ali or Christopher Eric Hitchens, both of whom supported the Iraq war and both of whose critiques of Islam are more bogeyman than anything else,

Ian Buruma's "The Muslim Scare in Europe - Hysteria or Threat?" is a simply quite refreshing. Excellent!

[MultiUniv3rsal]

Someone ask this question to Theo Van Gogh.

Whoops, can't.

[Nasiruddin84]

I think Buruma takes the wrong approach. He just analysis speech and the history of ideas of social groups. I missed a lot a sophisticated approach concerning population statistics. Also he doesn't really talk a lot about Muslims, just about those who he considers his ideological enemies.