Wow!! This intro is not good Tony? He is normally so spot on with his keyboard sound. I'm surprised he used this sound at all. He would of been better off getting Rolf Harris to come and play his stylophone,it would of sounded better ha ha
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Too bad Tony couldn't have used a real piano on stage for this song. The electric piano he uses at the beginning really sounds pitiful...I can understand why he stopped doing it eventually.
I think Genesis did some grear stuff with Collins as well.You often forget about Trick of a tail which was a great album.With each new one they got more and more into pop,don't you think so ?
sabias que despues de este recital no toco nunca mas la intro de este tema por que si escuchas bien le pifio y de tan enfermito obsesivo que es dijo nunca mas
Thank you, I've always wanted to see this one, my mom told me about it, but this is my first time seeing Peter singing it, it was always with Phil singing it, THIS is GENESIS, Phil singing, sorry, hes great but it's not really Genesis.
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I know it was hard to make keyboards, but why didn't he use a normal piano for the intro? It would have been worth it some logistical trouble:) the intro is amazing when played classic style on classic piano, now it was very much "Meh". Amazing song. Yes PG is a genious
Real pianos are a pain to take on tours, especially since they can easily go out of tune from transportation and having to retune them if they do. The album version is, of course, real.
I heard about the Tony's intro to Firth of Fifth, but to be honest the one in this video sounds totally fake for me. In fact the whole video it's a cheap cut & paste...
Btw, I love Genesis. and probably these concerts -I guess that finally made "Seconds Out"- are the last 100% prog they did. Right after that, the metamorphosis started. "And then there were three" is 50%, and Duke 30%. Abacab 0%
Invisible Touch is like -50%. What useles drek that record was. I liked Abacab and Duke a lot, but by '86, it was just Phil Collins' maudlin achey breaky bleeding heart songs dominating their music.
Don`t complain, it was huge problem for key board constructors to create electric instrument to imitate piano. Yamaha CP70 in mid 70s was the first one with perfect sound and synths started to imitate peano in mid 80s.
I think the problem with Genesis is not that "Phil isn't as good a singer as Peter" or "they'll never get a guitarist as good as Steve again" or whatever - it's that Phil wound up in the WRONG ROLE. He and Tony just wound up with too much power over what was a great band. (Like all great bands, it was once a democracy).
Phil was a great drummer - not only with Genesis, but also session work that he did (Eno, Hackett). But he doesn't have personality like Peter & they ran out of good ideas.
Is anyone actually watching this clip? There are perhaps 2 or 3 brief snippets of actual live performance, but the rest is shoddy editing from out-of-context sequences, and then repeated ad nausum. You can see Hackett at one point going in forward and reverse repeatedly. I remember buying this entire concert on VHS from a rock and roll expo back in the early 80s and getting angry when I actually watched it.
@KLanz123 What more do you want when shot in 8mm by a student at the show with all it's darkness and concert lighting in 74'? Technology and film quality from back then are not what they are today...
I sure wish this whole Montreal concert from 1974 was available on dvd or even tape. I do not understand why Yes, The Moody Blues, Pink Floyd, and others have better and more available early live videos available and Genesis does not have many at all. It truly is frustrating being a Genesis fanatic. The Lamb live in its entirety would truly be the holy grail.I just have to enjoy all videos which are available thanks to all of you for sharing. Thank you elioreyes.
He's recording with C. Squire. I can't wait to hear what comes out of the combiantion of the best Prog guitar player with the best Prog bass player. 75% of the album is already done, according to a Squire's interview in Prog magazine.
They did an album last year I want. It's a fully orchestrated choral Christmas record called: "Chris Squire - Swiss Choir" I want it before Christmas this year. It was on back order last Christmas so I missed it. )=
A decent electric piano for touring was hard to come by in 1974, but at least Tony had his Mellotron!
D'accord!! Collins was a shadow of Gabriel on vocals and on stage presence. Fortunately I got to see this tour at Ford Auditorium in Detroit - I've judged all other concerts by that one ever since!! I will say I had to admire Collins later - for becoming a pop superstar despite being bald and pudgy - but he ruined Genesis.
Perhaps this was the end of the pete era hence the lack of interest by tony on the intro still real genesis is good genesis by the way the guys pissing and moaning need to get the ole led zep collection out and be done with it
I think the twinkly-dinkly sounding intro was probably added by the editor or person who posted this. As far as I know, even with PG, they never played the intro in concert.
I think I heard that they did play the intro to Firth of Fifth for a while but they cut it out midway through the tour because Banks screwed it up badly one time. I read somewhere that he messed up, stopped playing, and yelled out the word "fuck" amidst the silence so the whole audience heard. I have no way of knowing this other than that I read it somewhere. But judging by the way the intro sounds on this video with that keyboard, I wouldn't blame them for cutting it out regardless.
excellent old head stuff from the theatrical rock era! who was that that said goofy outfits whatare you 20 years old i bet. this stuff is for the 40 -50 s people who know what real asid is!
Au moment de ce show j etais occupé avec ma blonde...j avais alors 17 ans..par la suite j ai pu voir Genesis 3 fois et Peter Gabriel 5 fois au FORUM de MONTREAL...des moments inoubliables,,,gravés dans l Eternité !!!!!
¡Muchas gracias, Elio! En verdad, que no son muchos los videos con Peter...como, por ejemplo (al menos, completos) "The Cinema Show" o "La Batalla de Eping Forest". De ahì, que es encomiable la tarea de personas como vos. ¡Gracias, nuevamente!
¡Muy agradecido "ElioReyes"! No creì que podrìa aparecer este temazo con Peter Gabriel. Ahora, sino resulto un poco exigente estarìa bueno que se obtenga el tema completo!!!
El tema lo tengo entero, pero solo en sonido, no en video, de todas formas yo siempre estoy en la busqueda, así que si lo encuentro no dudes que lo colgaré!! :P
yeah, it is a bit rough... studio wizards, though! Phil looking good, sans beard, and Pete, hiding behind his theatrical gear. I understand he claimed to be a bit "bashful", hence the mask, or make-up.
You visited this thread / video just to write that shit? Okay. Hey, when you respond to me with something stupid, list your favorite group & song so we can all laugh.
The grand piano opening to this piece is wonderful as played on the studio version "Selling England By the Pound" I think. This version sounds like some kid going through it on a Bontempi ready for they're Grade 7 Associated Board exam. Oh, and by the way this fuckin thread does not belong to you or your country and neither does the rest of the world as you so clearly believe.
Do a search on YouTube for David Myers Firth of Fifth. That's how it should be played Tony.
pattyheno 1 month ago
Wow!! This intro is not good Tony? He is normally so spot on with his keyboard sound. I'm surprised he used this sound at all. He would of been better off getting Rolf Harris to come and play his stylophone,it would of sounded better ha ha
MarcW2209 2 months ago
MONTREAL- 2011-THE NIGHT OF THAT SHOWW IN THE OLD MONTREAL-FORUM I WAS 10 YEARS OLD!!! WOW......
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ClassicRockDVD 5 months ago
I'm trying to learn the piano's intro. But... AWWWW it's so hard!
agnesemusic94 6 months ago
They cut out an entire section. My favorite part. What a waste of time!!!!
MyNana420 6 months ago 2
The video is bullshit it's just the same bits of Hackett edited together on the solo and the same bit of Rutherford playin Bass part?!!!!!!!
MarcW2209 7 months ago
The big question is where is the sustain pedal ??
gozal007 9 months ago
The video part is epic bullshit.
But audio is as oldschool as it gets.
I LOVE IT lol
stringsnsticks 10 months ago 2
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Sim2428 11 months ago
I was 13 years old far away from Montreal , Now I'm 50
nono4rio 1 year ago
Geesh I was at this show!
Sixteen years old yikes
Andyman2 1 year ago
The singer scared the shit out of me..
kip4tok 1 year ago
arrrr little Phil there on Drums - who would of foreseen the awesome talent to be produced by this band.
dilwich123 1 year ago
Quanto li amo!
agnesemusic94 1 year ago
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ClassicRockDVD 1 year ago
Brilliant post, the only time I've ever seen Tony Banks perform the intro on piano - Thank You.
kipp0man 1 year ago
magic song os caras eram Foda!
MrChalinho 1 year ago
No Gee because we are the most polite, quiet audinece in the world.
repelghosts 1 year ago
@ray5401 ummm...it's from 74?...I was at this concert....the sound was awesome..
Crowsfan55 1 year ago
actually, tony IS genesis with other 4 sidekicks.
khabaraful 1 year ago 2
woowwwooowwww tks for this postt regards from argentina
bigua1428 1 year ago
Too bad Tony couldn't have used a real piano on stage for this song. The electric piano he uses at the beginning really sounds pitiful...I can understand why he stopped doing it eventually.
jhillst 1 year ago 5
@jhillst
Could he have just tried to work out the intro some more?
ClassicTVMan1981X 1 year ago
@jhillst Amen
maximumsatann 1 year ago
Nothing tops the early 70's Genesis with Peter Gabriel.
psfirthoffith 4 weeks ago
CANADA...THE MOST RESPECTFUL,QUIET AUDINECE ON THE PLANET.
repelghosts 1 year ago
CANADA...THE MOST RESPECRFUL,QUIER AUDIENCE IN THE WORLD...THANKS FOR THIS...MISS YOU GENESIS AND PETER
repelghosts 1 year ago
Canad!!! I love you....Bowie,Genesis all the greats love us...we aere are a quier respectful audience.
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pranayshetty13 1 year ago
Peter you were Genesis...tears in my eyes always at the ending of this beautiful song...I miss my friends who are no longer with us.
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I was lucky enough to see you live and Freddie Mercury in the same year.
Hard Hugs
repelghosts 1 year ago
Peter you were Genesis...tears in my eyes always at the ending of this beautiful song...I miss my freinds who are no longer with us.
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I was lucky enough to see you live and Freddie Mercury in the same year.
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repelghosts 1 year ago
the solo is really shortened in this one...
ueffect 1 year ago
@thewer25 in your twenties, selebrate! I was 13 when i first heard Genesis, at their 4 album!!
aslakemil 1 year ago
I Love You Phil, But Gabriel is The Greatest..
Finally, I've seen Gabriel in "Firth of Fifth"...Long Live Genesis.
Thanks ELIOREYES...
piputaja 1 year ago
I think Genesis did some grear stuff with Collins as well.You often forget about Trick of a tail which was a great album.With each new one they got more and more into pop,don't you think so ?
duodat 1 year ago 2
Peter looks like the joker from batman :P
Inthescissor 1 year ago
this is my Nationality songs
jaydeegenesis99 1 year ago
sabias que despues de este recital no toco nunca mas la intro de este tema por que si escuchas bien le pifio y de tan enfermito obsesivo que es dijo nunca mas
mercuriandres 1 year ago
anybody knows who play giuitars? (Phillips? Hacket?)
crossroadss 1 year ago
@crossroadss Hackett on guitar in this.
cosmicjazzer 1 year ago
@crossroadss that's steve hackett on guitar.
technome95 1 year ago
yo tambien tengo este tema solo en sonido, conseguirlo en video sería realmente espectacular, que gran tema,,,,,,
carmen88z 1 year ago
Thank you, I've always wanted to see this one, my mom told me about it, but this is my first time seeing Peter singing it, it was always with Phil singing it, THIS is GENESIS, Phil singing, sorry, hes great but it's not really Genesis.
onemarilynfan 1 year ago
Finally they're inducted into the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame. FUSE Channel on March 15th 2010 LIVE from the Waldorf Astoria in NYC- DON'T MISS IT -- GENESIS LIVES FOREVER !!
BigBadBobby1234 2 years ago
un monument ..
70ripples 2 years ago 2
I know it was hard to make keyboards, but why didn't he use a normal piano for the intro? It would have been worth it some logistical trouble:) the intro is amazing when played classic style on classic piano, now it was very much "Meh". Amazing song. Yes PG is a genious
realias 2 years ago
Real pianos are a pain to take on tours, especially since they can easily go out of tune from transportation and having to retune them if they do. The album version is, of course, real.
xnonsuchx 2 years ago
PG is a genius!
anacarolinateixeira 2 years ago
AWESOME!!
bucknorm 2 years ago
I heard about the Tony's intro to Firth of Fifth, but to be honest the one in this video sounds totally fake for me. In fact the whole video it's a cheap cut & paste...
Btw, I love Genesis. and probably these concerts -I guess that finally made "Seconds Out"- are the last 100% prog they did. Right after that, the metamorphosis started. "And then there were three" is 50%, and Duke 30%. Abacab 0%
sukrat69 2 years ago
Invisible Touch is like -50%. What useles drek that record was. I liked Abacab and Duke a lot, but by '86, it was just Phil Collins' maudlin achey breaky bleeding heart songs dominating their music.
RubHerSoul1 2 years ago
this rmi electric piano is really awful
cosmojairzinho14 2 years ago 3
Don`t complain, it was huge problem for key board constructors to create electric instrument to imitate piano. Yamaha CP70 in mid 70s was the first one with perfect sound and synths started to imitate peano in mid 80s.
marguslagle 2 years ago 3
I think the problem with Genesis is not that "Phil isn't as good a singer as Peter" or "they'll never get a guitarist as good as Steve again" or whatever - it's that Phil wound up in the WRONG ROLE. He and Tony just wound up with too much power over what was a great band. (Like all great bands, it was once a democracy).
Phil was a great drummer - not only with Genesis, but also session work that he did (Eno, Hackett). But he doesn't have personality like Peter & they ran out of good ideas.
sex6cult9revolution 2 years ago
i completly agree, great observation
SRNF 2 years ago
Is anyone actually watching this clip? There are perhaps 2 or 3 brief snippets of actual live performance, but the rest is shoddy editing from out-of-context sequences, and then repeated ad nausum. You can see Hackett at one point going in forward and reverse repeatedly. I remember buying this entire concert on VHS from a rock and roll expo back in the early 80s and getting angry when I actually watched it.
KLanz123 2 years ago 16
@KLanz123 What more do you want when shot in 8mm by a student at the show with all it's darkness and concert lighting in 74'? Technology and film quality from back then are not what they are today...
bcbest 1 year ago
@KLanz123 Phil didnt have that much hair in the 80's
aperfectrain 1 year ago
@KLanz123 Does have a lot of looping, doesn't it?
kamwrites 11 months ago
I sure wish this whole Montreal concert from 1974 was available on dvd or even tape. I do not understand why Yes, The Moody Blues, Pink Floyd, and others have better and more available early live videos available and Genesis does not have many at all. It truly is frustrating being a Genesis fanatic. The Lamb live in its entirety would truly be the holy grail.I just have to enjoy all videos which are available thanks to all of you for sharing. Thank you elioreyes.
psfirthoffith 4 weeks ago
the most haunting guitar solo of all time. Hacket really shines in this one.
danielion999 2 years ago 2
He's recording with C. Squire. I can't wait to hear what comes out of the combiantion of the best Prog guitar player with the best Prog bass player. 75% of the album is already done, according to a Squire's interview in Prog magazine.
vivelavidarocka 2 years ago
They did an album last year I want. It's a fully orchestrated choral Christmas record called: "Chris Squire - Swiss Choir" I want it before Christmas this year. It was on back order last Christmas so I missed it. )=
A decent electric piano for touring was hard to come by in 1974, but at least Tony had his Mellotron!
MusicStudioTV 2 years ago
ye well he pwns and tell me when he isnt shining lol
SRNF 2 years ago
D'accord!! Collins was a shadow of Gabriel on vocals and on stage presence. Fortunately I got to see this tour at Ford Auditorium in Detroit - I've judged all other concerts by that one ever since!! I will say I had to admire Collins later - for becoming a pop superstar despite being bald and pudgy - but he ruined Genesis.
Poconobuc 2 years ago
Beautiful guitar work by Steve Hackett.
smac761 2 years ago
Beautiful song and I prefer Peter Gabriel's vocals on this one.
ajittffcure 2 years ago
Au risque de me répéter... La meilleure période de Genesis, Peter Gabriel aux chants et Steve Hackett à la guitare
VerneNemo 2 years ago
Peter is awesome, magnificent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Criswallmig 2 years ago
gabriel the master, maybe pioneer of performance makeup in scene
pedroanimb 2 years ago
That would be Alice Cooper.
CivilizedJerk 2 years ago
It's the RMI piano...it sounds "tinkly".
edidpro 2 years ago
Perhaps this was the end of the pete era hence the lack of interest by tony on the intro still real genesis is good genesis by the way the guys pissing and moaning need to get the ole led zep collection out and be done with it
Turksonbass 2 years ago
I think the twinkly-dinkly sounding intro was probably added by the editor or person who posted this. As far as I know, even with PG, they never played the intro in concert.
OronOfMontreal 2 years ago
I think I heard that they did play the intro to Firth of Fifth for a while but they cut it out midway through the tour because Banks screwed it up badly one time. I read somewhere that he messed up, stopped playing, and yelled out the word "fuck" amidst the silence so the whole audience heard. I have no way of knowing this other than that I read it somewhere. But judging by the way the intro sounds on this video with that keyboard, I wouldn't blame them for cutting it out regardless.
TheCorrectAnswer56 2 years ago 3
Gabriel is creepy
matstar19 2 years ago
He always was! Now he's just an older kind of creepy.. lol
matthewimi 2 years ago
excellent old head stuff from the theatrical rock era! who was that that said goofy outfits whatare you 20 years old i bet. this stuff is for the 40 -50 s people who know what real asid is!
jaydog606 2 years ago
Au moment de ce show j etais occupé avec ma blonde...j avais alors 17 ans..par la suite j ai pu voir Genesis 3 fois et Peter Gabriel 5 fois au FORUM de MONTREAL...des moments inoubliables,,,gravés dans l Eternité !!!!!
rockerfloripa 2 years ago
Hackett plays a bit with the solo here and that makes it more fresh.
Great sound! Too bad it is only a fraction of the song.
drunk3director 2 years ago
¡Muchas gracias, Elio! En verdad, que no son muchos los videos con Peter...como, por ejemplo (al menos, completos) "The Cinema Show" o "La Batalla de Eping Forest". De ahì, que es encomiable la tarea de personas como vos. ¡Gracias, nuevamente!
lusich94 3 years ago
¡Muy agradecido "ElioReyes"! No creì que podrìa aparecer este temazo con Peter Gabriel. Ahora, sino resulto un poco exigente estarìa bueno que se obtenga el tema completo!!!
lusich94 3 years ago
El tema lo tengo entero, pero solo en sonido, no en video, de todas formas yo siempre estoy en la busqueda, así que si lo encuentro no dudes que lo colgaré!! :P
ELIOREYES 3 years ago 2
Por favor sube aunque sea solo el audio!
no importa que soo tenga de imagen la caratula del album.
axlrodriguez 2 years ago
yeah, it is a bit rough... studio wizards, though! Phil looking good, sans beard, and Pete, hiding behind his theatrical gear. I understand he claimed to be a bit "bashful", hence the mask, or make-up.
bigwo56 3 years ago
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Maybe it's just me, but i find it hard to watch old Genesis films with Peter Gabriel on vocals. I find myself being distracted by his goofy outfits.
TheJman2600 3 years ago
IT's JUST YOU....TRUST ME !!!
BigBadBobby1234 2 years ago 5
What a trip! Saw it by the very first time in 76. First laser show!!! What a trip!
Cavelson 3 years ago
This is real genesis. Will we ever see these 5 bears on stage together again he asks - expecting the answer no
sandprof 3 years ago
Fuckin horrific
gareththefireman 3 years ago
You visited this thread / video just to write that shit? Okay. Hey, when you respond to me with something stupid, list your favorite group & song so we can all laugh.
klwewf 2 years ago 2
The grand piano opening to this piece is wonderful as played on the studio version "Selling England By the Pound" I think. This version sounds like some kid going through it on a Bontempi ready for they're Grade 7 Associated Board exam. Oh, and by the way this fuckin thread does not belong to you or your country and neither does the rest of the world as you so clearly believe.
gareththefireman 2 years ago
You came through in spades. But, you forgot your favorite group. Even though, your comment was funny enough.
klwewf 2 years ago
not much good music has been played since 73... this was past the end.. zep, the who, floyd, all sucked by then
dejahthoris 2 years ago
Yeah Tony really butchered this...but I still love him. :-)
Delphi333 3 years ago
mestres del mundo o maestros
praiapontadomel 3 years ago
mESTRES DEL MUNDO
praiapontadomel 3 years ago
to be brutally honest, the piano intro sounds awful played on the electric piano. I understand why they skipped it in later tours.
ClearJack 3 years ago 4
is this from december, 1974?
maida1982a 3 years ago
No, is from 21-04-1974
ELIOREYES 3 years ago
@ELIOREYES
April 21, 1974.
ClassicTVMan1981X 1 year ago
Thank you for posting this video!
Too bad Tony was too lazy to play the whole introduction but this is a great song!
TheMusicalBox 3 years ago
Just thank you for post it! It's GREAT! :)
djeleix 3 years ago