@sacredclowns pobably because we hear "kennedy tower" several times... that would have been your first hint. Also, it says "in new york" in the description.
thanks for making fun of the atc like an ignorant douche though. short tempered? this man was doing his job. perfectly.
@captainhanish Minimums = decision height on approach. If you don't have a visual with the runway, or don't have landing clearance, or you're not stable, you go around then.
I'm not too sure if you're being sarcastic or not but clearing multiple aircraft to land with traffic on the runway is perfectly ok according to regulations as long as proper separation can be anticipated. Heck, you can even clear an aircraft to land with one holding in position if ASDE-X is in place. Standard operating procedure.
@hoffhouseSIX i guess you´re right but i think even for aa there will be better times now that they are refacing their shorthaul fleet: md 80s for boeing 737ng, airbus a320neo and 737 new evolution!!! AA pilots will finally have fun again ;)
yesterday I go-around with a ATR-72! but this was 200m from the ground! not so close to the ground. I think we go around becuase the strong wind, after that, the pilot choose a other runway. And the landing was the hardest landing ever!
@vsbfbmusic The sound "altitude" is to let the pilots know that the plane or the auto pilot has reach´d the set altitude, "stabilizer motion" is to tell the pilots that the AP is moving the stap trim, and it is in motion by the AP with no input from the the pilots.
@nalli77 thanks a lot! I'm not so familiar with the MD-11 systems. I thought "altitude" was something similar to the "terrain terrain" warning on Boeings, but seems as if it's something totally different :D
@nalli77 How did you capture this video, did they let you into the cockpit during landing? Lucky you! I never witnessed a landing or takeoff from the cockpit.
@nalli77 Not quite... Altitude means that the aircraft has either just entered an altitude 1,000 feet above or below the selected value, or is just leaving that window.
@nalli77 wrong... Altitude means that the aircraft has either just entered an altitude 1,000 feet above or below the selected value, or is just leaving that window.
@vsbfbmusic Negative. The Finnair was instructed to 'go around' by JFK ATC due to an American Airlines aircraft not clearing the runway quickly enough. You can hear the ATC guy giving them an instruction earlier in the video.
This sort of thing is not unommon in a busy airport like JFK.
@vsbfbmusic the pilots aborted the landing too late, only when they got the "traffic on runway" from ATC. You can hear the "approaching minimum", thats when they should have aborted cause they can clearly see the plane in front of them. "Minimum" is the last moment to safely abort a landing because of very slow airspeed.
@jetmechma Yes so what he put flap a few steps up b4 go around thrust was introduced. The flaps on these jets don't move instantly to the commanded position I'm sure the thrust wd uv caught up much faster.
Did he raise flaps BEFORE thrust was increased? I think he could have waited a bit before flap retract. Thrust leevers forward, positive rate of climb, gear up, flaps up on schedule.
@sashman3988 your probably a dork who tried to get a job with ATC only to fail the tests when you didnt know how to add 2+2. now your a sad whino who has nothing better to do than just moan on the net. i suppose you could always try a cleaning job at mcdonalds.
Hey!!! That Captain seemed to be wearing spectacles. Is it okay for a pilot? I mean, i myself have spectcles for about -2 Diopters, Cud I ever be a pilot? Btw, I'm 18...
@ArpitRoy Yes you can be a pilot, but for knowing at what level I think you should see a certified aviation eye doctor who will know the exact requirements. For this Captain, I read from JAR that it is more lenient for the requirements for older pilots who are continuing their existing licence.
@ArpitRoy course you can be a pilot. i wear glasses and i've been a pilot for about 6 years. i'm not with an actual airline but i have my PPL. I think airlines have their own requirements but just because you wear specs, it wont stop you from doing what you want. you can also check with your national aviation agency. I'm in the UK so i'm under the Civil Aviation Authority. If your in the US then it will be the FAA. It's an awesome feeling when you get your PPL, trust me!
@dave46563 Aw thanks a lot for the info! Well, let's see who'll stop me know....thanks for increasing my confidence :)
I might also take up a job as an Air Traffic Controller. But that'll depend on how increasingly the demand of the job has become 4 years from now, coz i've 4 years left for me to get a bachelor's degree in Electronics and Communications.........
The MD11 was based on the well know DC10. However they made the vertical and horizontal tails smaller in the interests of saving weight and reducing drag.
It was fine at speed, but at low speeds the plane could oscillate badly. It was even know to flip onto its back after the flare out and in one case even after the wheels touched. There are very few passenger operators nowadays, almost all cargo.
@johnWeitinger3 I thought I was the only one who thought that! LOL. In any rate if I had my own MD11 I'd hire Jessie Camacho to do some replacement voices :)
American Airlines is famous for that kind of shit. I used to based in Chicago and I did more go arounds, saw/heard others do more go arounds, and nearly go arounds because of those dumb asses than any other airline. I don't understand what their problem is.
@UTubeLightBulb Minimums is the height at which you have to have the runway or runway environment (CATII/III) in sight (200 feet AGL on a good day like in the video). If you have either of these in sight, you continue landing, if not, you go around. So, yeah, decision height.
@jewtewb I said they did an awesome job. I simply pointed out the one subtle thing they could've done differently. So, what EXACTLY is your problem? Oh, and I fly actual planes, in weather.
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omg its awsome how the co-pilot just automatically gets on to work like flaps up, full throttle, landing gear up, set the radio, heading. its really awsome how pilots do their job. i wanna become a pilot oneday. im going to discovery flight
@domemvs Starting @ :56 TWR: American 160, no need to acknowledge. Whiskey's closed, and I need you without delay down to Victor for traffic behind. AAL160: 160, wilco. TWR: PD16, radar contact. Altimeter 2974. PD16: PD16, coney island, landing *garbled*. TWR: I'll be landing you short, wind 280 15. PD16 : Roger, PD16. TWR: American 160, quick as you can for me. AAL160: Wilco. TWR: Finair 5, go around. Traffic is on the runway. FIN5: Going around. TWR: 2000, fly runway heading.
@domemvs Starting @ :56 TWR: American 160, no need to acknowledge. Whiskey's closed, and I need you without delay down to Victor for traffic behind. AAL160: 160, wilco. TWR: PD16, radar contact. Altimeter 2974. PD16: PD16, coney island, landing *garbled*. TWR: I'll be landing you short, wind 280 15. PD16 : Roger, PD16. TWR: American 160, quick as you can for me. AAL160: Wilco. TWR: Finair 5, go around. Traffic is on the runway. FIN5: Going around. TWR: 2000, fly runway heading.
@THEMAMABOY101 The video was originally shot by one Joni Hares (I've seen the complete version with info), and I have a hunch amember of his family works for Finnair.
Im sorry, but honestly.. i didnt' understand just.. a big part of the speech :-) i don't want the transcript but... anyone could tell me the reason og the go around? :-) i ve understood there is another plane involved..and nothing else!! (txh.. but you know here in italy english is only to put verbs in the right tense)
@arcech NP:) Busy day at KJFK. first I´ll tell you what Evergreen keep it rolling, 0:56. America one sixty no need to acknowledge with the approach I need you without the lay down for Victor for traffic behind you! : Then at 1:17. America one sixty Quick as you can for me. Then the call for Finnair 5 Go A Round Traffic is on the runway. And Be Hind the Finnair is ,Olympic 41 Heavy traffic 4 miles ahead tower a heavy 767 caution wake turbulence runw. 31 R clear to land. Busy day:)
@arcech Because there was another airplane that was taking too long to get off the runway. The controller kept asking the pilot to get off the runway as quick as he could, but he took too long. That's why the controller told the Finnair pilot to go-around.
@arcech At 1;20 you hear the tower advising the landing aircraft that.... "traffic is on the runway"....Since airplanes are not good at playing piggy-back, a go-around is a good choice to make!
@TheHedgehogPilot The MD-11 had major design flaws tail electrics e.t.c. They fixed the problems ,but it was too late. The MD-11 got very unpopular quick and a lot of airlines cancelled a further deal for them cause of some bad flaws that lead to big accidents. But I still like that plane:)
@Marcus666Sund Well here are some of them:/ Martinair DC-10 at Faro, Portugal 21 December 1992 FedEx MD-11 at Anchorage 4 November 1994 FedEx MD-11 at Anchorage 16 May 1996 Alitalia MD-11 at Chicago 19 August 1994 FedEx MD-11 New York Newark 31 July 1997 China Airlines MD-11 Hong Kong 23 August 1999 and here FedEx MD-11 Subic Bay 17 October 1999 Eva Air Taipei 22 November 2001 FedEx Memphis 18 December 2003 FedEx Memphis 19 September 2004 UPS Louisville 7 June 2005 FedEx Memphis 28 July 2006
@nalli77 and lufthansa cargo, which crashed on 27 july 2010. a pilot told me once, that MD-11 is very sensitive to little control errors made during landing, it can get instale very quick due to the heavier tail section. this can cause the landing gear to break and the plane to overturn, as happened during FedEx crash at Narita. MD-11 isn't a bad plane, it's just a plane maybe not that easy to handle as other planes.
@vsbfbmusic You've been talking to the wrong kind of pilots. Landing gear will break if your vertical speed is too high. That is why you should listen very carefully to the metallic lady reading out the numbers at the final stage of your landing.
@nalli77 You are confusing things. One, the MD-11 in the beginning (1990ish) had performance problems, but this was later addressed by the manufacturer by several "performance improvement packages" that corrected the lacking long range performance.
There never was anything related to "a tail electrics" problem, what might you mean exactly?
Since we're watching a Finnair video here, may I remind the audience that Finnair has operated the MD-11 from the very beginning in 1990, and still does.
md11 is a piece of shit. my friend died in sioux city crash. remember the chicago when one of the engines fell off when take off. if you think this is an 'amazing' airplane, then you must be a real retard.
@freebird20002012 I'm sorry at your loss, but the plane that crashed there was a DC-10. The cause of the accident was a crack in the original titanium ingot that an important rotating part of the engine was milled of. This hidden crack had went on undetected for years. That faulty GE-made engine could have been installed in a variety of aircraft types employing the CF6-50 engine.
Afterwards the DC10 was modified against the loss of all hydraul. pressure, and the MD-11 inherited the modification
@TheHedgehogPilot The number built compared to the number of major accidents the type has had in it's relatively short life is shocking. The biggest flaw is that it's inherently unstable on short final, at it's most vulnerable stage of flight. This comes from having the center of gravity farther aft then most airliners. It's unstableness is similar to that of an F-16/F-14 etc...
@my235 That's just the nonsense that's being circulated in the Web. You will have two parameters, the center of gravity and the center of lift. A careful match between the two will be adjusted by the tailplane (horizontal stabilizer) for pitch control. In the MD-11, among others, there will be a ballast tank in the tailplane and of course the movable surfaces. There's NO AIRLINER in the world that features inherent instability at any time, that's only for the latest generation of fighter jets!
@itapirkanmaa Well I think the aircrafts accident history and the similarity's of the incidents that have occurred speak for themselves. Four of them have ended up on their backs. I've heard pilots say the horizontal stabilizer is quite unresponsive at low airspeeds.
Cheers for the info.
I'm flying Finnair's A330/340 this Spring and looking forward to it!
@my235 I urge you to check out the actual accident reports. The only similarity between the accidents is that the pilots have landed with too much vertical speed. In the video you will hear the recorded female voice reading out the distance to ground from the radio altimeter. If these numbers come at you too fast, you'll need to go around, as these guys did., Again, please read the reports, do not repeat Internet memes!
@itapirkanmaa But the facts remain. Why has it become so unpopular with pax airlines and even the cargo airlines are replacing them with the 777? Hell...the 747 is a full 20 years older and still VERY popular. Stop trying to defend it and admit it is a lemon.
@my235 The answer to your question of "unpopularity" is largely fuel economy, and the fact that few MD-11s have an up-to-date flight entertainment system for passenger appeal (except KLM). And, be advised, cargo airliners have for years been buying all MD-11s they are able to get their hands on, its load-carrying ability is extremely good. Seen any 747-200s in passenger service lately btw? 747-100s anywhere? 747-400s in the desert? There'll be a lot of MD-11s flying in the 2020s, thank you!
@atcwiz seems like they may have run them a little tight on the approach and/or the american airlines pilot was being a jerk and wasting time on the runway.
Amazing video, cant belive it is 8 years old, wonder if the pilots are still flying.
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PilotInCommand100 2 weeks ago
Short tempered ATC... must be KJFK no?
sacredclowns 2 weeks ago
@sacredclowns It is KJFK
780VolvoVn 2 weeks ago
@sacredclowns pobably because we hear "kennedy tower" several times... that would have been your first hint. Also, it says "in new york" in the description.
thanks for making fun of the atc like an ignorant douche though. short tempered? this man was doing his job. perfectly.
DiamondPilotDan 1 day ago
Great video! Well done.
williamv0123 3 weeks ago
What does "approaching danemark" and "danemark" mean?
GalaxyCenter 3 weeks ago
@GalaxyCenter its a holidng point or section of the taxiway. america is odd they nick name everything
PilotInCommand100 2 weeks ago
What does "approaching dänemark
GalaxyCenter 3 weeks ago
Cool
irelandbloke 3 weeks ago
American 160 your slow!
kylethree 4 weeks ago
Nice video, thanks
TeamEnebakkAirsoft 1 month ago
Oh man I love the MD-11 :)
MTFDarkEagle 1 month ago
Good job! ;)
tomcataircraft 1 month ago
COOOL!!!
mariodebontridder 1 month ago
Also watch the FULL length of this classical clip
sunriseman100 2 months ago
Great video thanks a million for the upload!
BRUCEBAUM45 2 months ago
I LOVE this video
Doctors2Advocate 2 months ago
MAY I KNOW WHAT DOES MINIMUM MEAN
captainhanish 2 months ago
@captainhanish Minimums = decision height on approach. If you don't have a visual with the runway, or don't have landing clearance, or you're not stable, you go around then.
blueb0g 2 months ago
@blueb0g thanx
captainhanish 2 months ago
that FO is he panicked?
balqis23977 2 months ago
@balqis23977 No...
blueb0g 2 months ago
@balqis23977 Not at all, just acting swiftly right on the command : go around, whit Finnish coolness..
sunriseman100 2 months ago
@icjd80
I'm not too sure if you're being sarcastic or not but clearing multiple aircraft to land with traffic on the runway is perfectly ok according to regulations as long as proper separation can be anticipated. Heck, you can even clear an aircraft to land with one holding in position if ASDE-X is in place. Standard operating procedure.
nismology 2 months ago
@hoffhouseSIX i guess you´re right but i think even for aa there will be better times now that they are refacing their shorthaul fleet: md 80s for boeing 737ng, airbus a320neo and 737 new evolution!!! AA pilots will finally have fun again ;)
Benjemen85 3 months ago
This is @ JFK....go arounds there are not uncommon....especially between noon and 6pm.....
TheClownShooze 3 months ago
god i hate aa, they´re reason for half of the go arounds i have to perform.
they are simply to slow to get of the runway, i mean not all of em:)
that is nothing bad or something it´s just annoying from time to time!!
Benjemen85 3 months ago
@Benjemen85 I know what you mean, but you should hate aa's management instead.
Poor management= pissed off aa pilots
hoffhouseSIX 3 months ago
Recognize that controller. He is extremely good. The AA was slow and I'm sure those folk heard about it from their chief pilot.
nymuseum 3 months ago
good job atc clearing a plane to land with one on the runway
icjd80 3 months ago
Big problem with understanding VOR freq. ;) Love Finns.
pawelo81 4 months ago
greaat video
dokuman100 4 months ago
i love finnair
i love helsinki
hosozoku 5 months ago
Wow these guys make it look so easy...that was SO smoothly done!
AeroNevin 5 months ago 8
Seems way to close to me. How can ATC's let traffic on the runway at that point?
jrg8008 5 months ago
@jrg8008 Maybe that american plane had just landed?
Pvjinflight 5 months ago
eek
numptymania 5 months ago
M D - 1 1 ! ! ! ! !
Darkton80 5 months ago
Awesome!
757mech1 5 months ago
Wow, that Sun is murder !
JetMechMA 5 months ago
geil geil .
lieschtenstein 5 months ago
like it!!:)
mmnoorh 5 months ago
yesterday I go-around with a ATR-72! but this was 200m from the ground! not so close to the ground. I think we go around becuase the strong wind, after that, the pilot choose a other runway. And the landing was the hardest landing ever!
HamburgAirport 6 months ago
what do the sounds "altitude" and "stabilizer motion" mean, why are they heard?
did the pilots do anything wrong during go around?
vsbfbmusic 6 months ago 2
@vsbfbmusic The sound "altitude" is to let the pilots know that the plane or the auto pilot has reach´d the set altitude, "stabilizer motion" is to tell the pilots that the AP is moving the stap trim, and it is in motion by the AP with no input from the the pilots.
nalli77 6 months ago 23
@nalli77 thanks a lot! I'm not so familiar with the MD-11 systems. I thought "altitude" was something similar to the "terrain terrain" warning on Boeings, but seems as if it's something totally different :D
vsbfbmusic 6 months ago
@nalli77 the altitude alert sounds 900ft before reaching set altitude.
larrybueno 3 months ago
@nalli77 How did you capture this video, did they let you into the cockpit during landing? Lucky you! I never witnessed a landing or takeoff from the cockpit.
BRUCEBAUM45 2 months ago
@BRUCEBAUM45 This is the work of one Joni Hares.
itapirkanmaa 2 months ago
@itapirkanmaa Who's that?
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@BRUCEBAUM45 He's the person credited in the complete (unpublished on YT) version of this video
itapirkanmaa 2 months ago
@nalli77 Not quite... Altitude means that the aircraft has either just entered an altitude 1,000 feet above or below the selected value, or is just leaving that window.
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nikib147 1 month ago
@blueb0g correct
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@nalli77 wrong... Altitude means that the aircraft has either just entered an altitude 1,000 feet above or below the selected value, or is just leaving that window.
nikib147 1 month ago
@vsbfbmusic Negative. The Finnair was instructed to 'go around' by JFK ATC due to an American Airlines aircraft not clearing the runway quickly enough. You can hear the ATC guy giving them an instruction earlier in the video.
This sort of thing is not unommon in a busy airport like JFK.
dacianmarine 4 months ago
@vsbfbmusic the pilots aborted the landing too late, only when they got the "traffic on runway" from ATC. You can hear the "approaching minimum", thats when they should have aborted cause they can clearly see the plane in front of them. "Minimum" is the last moment to safely abort a landing because of very slow airspeed.
MrAcethaman 1 month ago
@MrAcethaman WRONG....you can abort a landing at any time! even if the wheels have already touched the ground (called balked landing then).
at the "Minimum" you must have visual contact to the runway (aka decision height/altitude for precision approaches)
nikib147 1 month ago
@nikib147 Of course landing can be aborted later, what Im saying, the pilot should have aborted it sooner.
MrAcethaman 3 weeks ago
Why does the bitching betty sound like a 1970's computer voice?
boundaryzero 6 months ago
@jetmechma Yes so what he put flap a few steps up b4 go around thrust was introduced. The flaps on these jets don't move instantly to the commanded position I'm sure the thrust wd uv caught up much faster.
headgalskit401 6 months ago
Hahaha, I love how disheartened the ATC sounds when he has to tell them to go around because some slow-mo has parked his bus on the interstate.
FlyBoyBigBlue 6 months ago
At 0.47 the FO farted
diegomayan 6 months ago 2
Did he raise flaps BEFORE thrust was increased? I think he could have waited a bit before flap retract. Thrust leevers forward, positive rate of climb, gear up, flaps up on schedule.
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1:16 "Qatar 1-60 quick as you can for me" ^^
Alddahh 7 months ago
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Alddahh 7 months ago
sashman - i cant think of a more IDIOTIC and uninformed comment
GarlicFriesGuy 7 months ago
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sashman3988 7 months ago
@sashman3988 your probably a dork who tried to get a job with ATC only to fail the tests when you didnt know how to add 2+2. now your a sad whino who has nothing better to do than just moan on the net. i suppose you could always try a cleaning job at mcdonalds.
dave46563 7 months ago
Hey!!! That Captain seemed to be wearing spectacles. Is it okay for a pilot? I mean, i myself have spectcles for about -2 Diopters, Cud I ever be a pilot? Btw, I'm 18...
ArpitRoy 7 months ago
@ArpitRoy Yes you can be a pilot, but for knowing at what level I think you should see a certified aviation eye doctor who will know the exact requirements. For this Captain, I read from JAR that it is more lenient for the requirements for older pilots who are continuing their existing licence.
itapirkanmaa 7 months ago
@itapirkanmaa Thanks a lot for the info!
ArpitRoy 7 months ago
@ArpitRoy course you can be a pilot. i wear glasses and i've been a pilot for about 6 years. i'm not with an actual airline but i have my PPL. I think airlines have their own requirements but just because you wear specs, it wont stop you from doing what you want. you can also check with your national aviation agency. I'm in the UK so i'm under the Civil Aviation Authority. If your in the US then it will be the FAA. It's an awesome feeling when you get your PPL, trust me!
dave46563 7 months ago
@dave46563 Aw thanks a lot for the info! Well, let's see who'll stop me know....thanks for increasing my confidence :)
I might also take up a job as an Air Traffic Controller. But that'll depend on how increasingly the demand of the job has become 4 years from now, coz i've 4 years left for me to get a bachelor's degree in Electronics and Communications.........
Thanks once again!
ArpitRoy 7 months ago 2
@ArpitRoy once i thought to be a combat pilot, then i was 12 and i was without glasses I wear now.
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Excellent. Amazing how realistic sims have got nowadays!
peto0101 7 months ago
@peto0101 Ahh ok,,,you got me! but not this is not a sim, no.. This is me and a friend parking my Corolla and we had to go around the lot:)
nalli77 7 months ago 53
@nalli77 hahaha ;D
6250valtra 7 months ago
@nalli77 Ha I knew there was something wrong with it!
I sell driving lessons when not surfing, I'd be happy to teach you to back into a parking bay UK style?
peto0101 7 months ago
@nalli77 so that was you? you scratched my truck :P
ADivyneMind 7 months ago
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maxcreed3 6 months ago
@nalli77 hahahaha touchè
Roetgen1972 5 months ago
@peto0101 it's real
therobo456 4 months ago
@therobo456 Thank you, that's great. Feels real to me too!
peto0101 4 months ago
The MD11 was based on the well know DC10. However they made the vertical and horizontal tails smaller in the interests of saving weight and reducing drag.
It was fine at speed, but at low speeds the plane could oscillate badly. It was even know to flip onto its back after the flare out and in one case even after the wheels touched. There are very few passenger operators nowadays, almost all cargo.
kevgza1 7 months ago
damm being cramped in that tiny cockpit at that height :O and no airbags :P
ultrabeat0 7 months ago
the woman computer voice is ridiculous!
johnWeitinger3 8 months ago
@johnWeitinger3 I thought I was the only one who thought that! LOL. In any rate if I had my own MD11 I'd hire Jessie Camacho to do some replacement voices :)
TheVerdeCuervo 8 months ago
But thats pretty precise... BB shouting out 100 at the time of throttle up...
Randomnick123 8 months ago
American Airlines is famous for that kind of shit. I used to based in Chicago and I did more go arounds, saw/heard others do more go arounds, and nearly go arounds because of those dumb asses than any other airline. I don't understand what their problem is.
IndependenceRanch 8 months ago 7
@IndependenceRanch ur just jealous cause ur working on a crj
wizzair1313 4 months ago
Yeah, great video. very nice audio commentary from tower also.
signature1990 8 months ago
Is the protocol at "minimums" is basically the decision height?
UTubeLightBulb 8 months ago
@UTubeLightBulb Minimums is the height at which you have to have the runway or runway environment (CATII/III) in sight (200 feet AGL on a good day like in the video). If you have either of these in sight, you continue landing, if not, you go around. So, yeah, decision height.
burreaucracy 7 months ago
It seems that there is something on the runway at 1:23
aizad3755 8 months ago
Awesome coordination there. Only mis-step was reading back just half of a 2-piece instruction from ATC. Otherwise, pure gold.
coma13794 8 months ago
@coma13794
Fuck off and stick to your flight sim.
jewtewb 8 months ago
@jewtewb I said they did an awesome job. I simply pointed out the one subtle thing they could've done differently. So, what EXACTLY is your problem? Oh, and I fly actual planes, in weather.
coma13794 8 months ago
Awesome video, thanks!
coldshot508 8 months ago
American made them go around. Sky Nazi's
terrehautesux 8 months ago
fuckin class. good job lads
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DickieCo2 9 months ago
the controller sound like the controller who handle the us 1549
ustiansniper 9 months ago
omg its awsome how the co-pilot just automatically gets on to work like flaps up, full throttle, landing gear up, set the radio, heading. its really awsome how pilots do their job. i wanna become a pilot oneday. im going to discovery flight
simerpreet11 9 months ago
@simerpreet11
cop just made flaps 28 gear up and some other fine tuning. Cap just throttled up.
Randomnick123 8 months ago
no gear!!!!!
ajtaussig 9 months ago
thanks for sharing
64h5dsf14j6s41h5s4j5 9 months ago
Very nicely done! Cool, calm and collected.
Budmetro 9 months ago
what is the tower say ? finnair go around traffic on runway?
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nickmed2009 9 months ago
can somebody transcribe the last 15 seconds of the radio comm. before the go around?
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nickmed2009 9 months ago
@nickmed2009 Thank you
swtrooper11 9 months ago
Great video!
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nalli77 10 months ago 17
Great video, amazing to see how quickly and effectively the crew react when they get the go-around request.
BroonUpTheToon 10 months ago
Why do pilots wear seat belts? is it in case the crash?
MrCongo9 10 months ago
@MrCongo9 Turbulence, sudden drop/climb to keep them at their controls than on the floor !
Metals999 10 months ago
@MrCongo9 for the very same reasons as the passengers do!
Julman75 9 months ago
oh man!..its so pissing when you're already there and then ATC says "go around"
hanniel04 10 months ago
HOW THE HELL DID YOU GET IN THERE TO VIDEO THIS???
THEMAMABOY101 10 months ago
@THEMAMABOY101 The video was originally shot by one Joni Hares (I've seen the complete version with info), and I have a hunch amember of his family works for Finnair.
itapirkanmaa 10 months ago
american airlines just has to screw up for everbody runway hoggers
229wazup 10 months ago
looks amazing... sometimes(like this) its pretty cool to go around... but it still can be very annoying
Phil1480 10 months ago
Outstanding!
AC6RH 11 months ago
pro go around
699backstab 11 months ago
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HamburgAirport 11 months ago
Well, at least it was a nice day for flying!
Northern206 11 months ago
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arcech 11 months ago
Im sorry, but honestly.. i didnt' understand just.. a big part of the speech :-) i don't want the transcript but... anyone could tell me the reason og the go around? :-) i ve understood there is another plane involved..and nothing else!! (txh.. but you know here in italy english is only to put verbs in the right tense)
arcech 11 months ago
@arcech NP:) Busy day at KJFK. first I´ll tell you what Evergreen keep it rolling, 0:56. America one sixty no need to acknowledge with the approach I need you without the lay down for Victor for traffic behind you! : Then at 1:17. America one sixty Quick as you can for me. Then the call for Finnair 5 Go A Round Traffic is on the runway. And Be Hind the Finnair is ,Olympic 41 Heavy traffic 4 miles ahead tower a heavy 767 caution wake turbulence runw. 31 R clear to land. Busy day:)
nalli77 11 months ago
@nalli77 ok.. got it now! thank you!
arcech 11 months ago
@nalli77
Olympic 41 RESPECT :D
fotistis 10 months ago
@nalli77 it's "without delay" not "without the lay" LOL
ryanhaart 10 months ago
@ryanhaart hehehehe Yes i suppose so thank you. Hope they still get the lay tough:)
nalli77 10 months ago
@arcech Because there was another airplane that was taking too long to get off the runway. The controller kept asking the pilot to get off the runway as quick as he could, but he took too long. That's why the controller told the Finnair pilot to go-around.
bg11215 11 months ago
@arcech At 1;20 you hear the tower advising the landing aircraft that.... "traffic is on the runway"....Since airplanes are not good at playing piggy-back, a go-around is a good choice to make!
tjjah57 10 months ago
LOOKS LIKE CO-PILOT IS THE PILOT
TheHedgehogPilot 11 months ago
MD 11 is an amazing airplane, comfortable, have big windows, smooth, is reliable etc. but,why this airplane was never a big success?
TheHedgehogPilot 11 months ago 12
@TheHedgehogPilot The MD-11 had major design flaws tail electrics e.t.c. They fixed the problems ,but it was too late. The MD-11 got very unpopular quick and a lot of airlines cancelled a further deal for them cause of some bad flaws that lead to big accidents. But I still like that plane:)
nalli77 11 months ago
@nalli77 I only know Swissair 111 as the only "big one"?
Marcus666Sund 11 months ago 2
nalli77 11 months ago 3
@nalli77 that's an amazing list you gathered, kinda gives one perspective, thank for the info
julikem 11 months ago
@nalli77 Would you please state which accidents on your list state pilot error as the official cause?
itapirkanmaa 10 months ago
@nalli77 wow FEDEX got really unlucky with it :P
olpkui 8 months ago
@nalli77 and lufthansa cargo, which crashed on 27 july 2010. a pilot told me once, that MD-11 is very sensitive to little control errors made during landing, it can get instale very quick due to the heavier tail section. this can cause the landing gear to break and the plane to overturn, as happened during FedEx crash at Narita. MD-11 isn't a bad plane, it's just a plane maybe not that easy to handle as other planes.
vsbfbmusic 8 months ago
@vsbfbmusic You've been talking to the wrong kind of pilots. Landing gear will break if your vertical speed is too high. That is why you should listen very carefully to the metallic lady reading out the numbers at the final stage of your landing.
itapirkanmaa 7 months ago
@nalli77 You are confusing things. One, the MD-11 in the beginning (1990ish) had performance problems, but this was later addressed by the manufacturer by several "performance improvement packages" that corrected the lacking long range performance.
There never was anything related to "a tail electrics" problem, what might you mean exactly?
Since we're watching a Finnair video here, may I remind the audience that Finnair has operated the MD-11 from the very beginning in 1990, and still does.
itapirkanmaa 10 months ago
@TheHedgehogPilot at least pmdg made it alive
TheHedgehogPilot 11 months ago
@TheHedgehogPilot
md11 is a piece of shit. my friend died in sioux city crash. remember the chicago when one of the engines fell off when take off. if you think this is an 'amazing' airplane, then you must be a real retard.
freebird20002012 10 months ago
@freebird20002012 I'm sorry at your loss, but the plane that crashed there was a DC-10. The cause of the accident was a crack in the original titanium ingot that an important rotating part of the engine was milled of. This hidden crack had went on undetected for years. That faulty GE-made engine could have been installed in a variety of aircraft types employing the CF6-50 engine.
Afterwards the DC10 was modified against the loss of all hydraul. pressure, and the MD-11 inherited the modification
itapirkanmaa 10 months ago
@TheHedgehogPilot The number built compared to the number of major accidents the type has had in it's relatively short life is shocking. The biggest flaw is that it's inherently unstable on short final, at it's most vulnerable stage of flight. This comes from having the center of gravity farther aft then most airliners. It's unstableness is similar to that of an F-16/F-14 etc...
my235 10 months ago
@my235 That's just the nonsense that's being circulated in the Web. You will have two parameters, the center of gravity and the center of lift. A careful match between the two will be adjusted by the tailplane (horizontal stabilizer) for pitch control. In the MD-11, among others, there will be a ballast tank in the tailplane and of course the movable surfaces. There's NO AIRLINER in the world that features inherent instability at any time, that's only for the latest generation of fighter jets!
itapirkanmaa 10 months ago
@itapirkanmaa Well I think the aircrafts accident history and the similarity's of the incidents that have occurred speak for themselves. Four of them have ended up on their backs. I've heard pilots say the horizontal stabilizer is quite unresponsive at low airspeeds.
Cheers for the info.
I'm flying Finnair's A330/340 this Spring and looking forward to it!
my235 10 months ago
@my235 I urge you to check out the actual accident reports. The only similarity between the accidents is that the pilots have landed with too much vertical speed. In the video you will hear the recorded female voice reading out the distance to ground from the radio altimeter. If these numbers come at you too fast, you'll need to go around, as these guys did., Again, please read the reports, do not repeat Internet memes!
itapirkanmaa 10 months ago
@itapirkanmaa But the facts remain. Why has it become so unpopular with pax airlines and even the cargo airlines are replacing them with the 777? Hell...the 747 is a full 20 years older and still VERY popular. Stop trying to defend it and admit it is a lemon.
my235 10 months ago
@my235 The answer to your question of "unpopularity" is largely fuel economy, and the fact that few MD-11s have an up-to-date flight entertainment system for passenger appeal (except KLM). And, be advised, cargo airliners have for years been buying all MD-11s they are able to get their hands on, its load-carrying ability is extremely good. Seen any 747-200s in passenger service lately btw? 747-100s anywhere? 747-400s in the desert? There'll be a lot of MD-11s flying in the 2020s, thank you!
itapirkanmaa 10 months ago
@TheHedgehogPilot its too old...shame really...but it uses too much fuel
omgallusuck 6 months ago
Nice footage
heathey2 11 months ago
at DA - does the pilot flying comit to landing before being told to go around by the controller? i cant make out what he says??
jonnyhock 11 months ago
Good procedure
buzzingthetower 11 months ago
Great Video Love this aircraft
h00t74 11 months ago
go around = miss approach procedure ?
pogodapogoda 11 months ago
real nice video man, the pilots must have had an adrenalin rush the moment they were asked to go around!
rishiroypilot 11 months ago
Like clockwork!
zeroaviation 1 year ago
yes, awesome! thanks for sharing. too bad for the glare
brkitdwn 1 year ago
At 1:16 Tower @traffic on the runway: "Leave as quick as you can for me!"
ansi23bvb 1 year ago
awesome video! loved it! thanks a lot of uploading.
pendooz 1 year ago 22
@pendooz Thank you, pleasure's all mine. glad you like'd it:)
nalli77 1 year ago
finnish airplane!!!!!!!!
lasikuppi 11 months ago
could have put in the a/p earlier and no need to turn off lights climbing away at 300ft......nicely done though.
Bearcat747 1 year ago
this is what happens when some do not follow the intructions of the approach controller..or is it the ground controller?.....
just wondered.......anyone know where this was?
awesome video though controller was watching and the pilots also paying attention, could have been bad..
atcwiz 1 year ago
@atcwiz Yes it sure is a nice vid:) Yes This is at KJFK NY:)
nalli77 1 year ago
@atcwiz They actually did follow the instructions of the approach controller. At 1:20 he said "Finnair 5 go around traffic is on the runway." :)
macsdestroypcs 1 year ago
@atcwiz seems like they may have run them a little tight on the approach and/or the american airlines pilot was being a jerk and wasting time on the runway.