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  • Ur party really blows dude

  • The werewolves didn't attack you first, Zathrian simply convinced you into attacking them first! Not the most sensible choice in my opinion, I would have defended Zathrian only if the werewolves had started the attack.

  • it's easy to second-guess someone when you KNOW what else could have happened. toegoff did what he thought best at the time, which is all anyone can do. it's called RP, folks... complaining because someone didn't 'do it right' is missing the point of the game, to me.

    too bad there's not a 'let's play' of life, we'd get all the achievements.

  • @cherrilarp my 1st playthrough I sided with the wolves

  • So there's really no way you could get an army of werewolves? Since killing the werewolves wouldn't leave any werewolves left, and almost-killing Zathrian lifts the curse, so that they're no longer werewolves...

  • So if Zatherian was a darkspawn you would go on his side? >.>

  • @Degitalxxxde3trgfXXX The argument defeats itself. If he was a dark spawn...he wouldn't be an elf. If he wasn't an elf, I wouldn't have sided with him

  • @Toegoff what if he was a shriek? they are darkspawned elfs, and with the Architect's help you may have encountered an intalligent one. will he count as a darkspawn or an elf? O_o

  • @147258502 No they are darkspawn, spawned from a elven brood mother. They aren't elves.

    *facepalm*

  • @nickofmillertime Don't be so sure. An elven brood mother spawns elven darkspawn no? You may not count them as such, but some people do and the answer isn't that obvious. In the end, everyones opinion is valid although last time i checked, i wanted TOEGOFF's opinion, since he was the one who came with the whole "help the elves" idea.

  • well i did this part and i'm glad that i did go with the werewolves. it was the only way to end it peacefully and gain the elves as allies. But really Toegoff, you made a horrible decision, basing the choice on race and not fully thinking it threw. X(

  • why dosnt he ever use chain lightning

  • This part was just too sad for me,Toegoff's bad chose lead me to just skip this two videos.

  • @vincerelee Agreed, these videos make me seriously consider not watching the rest of the Let's Play. This was such a horrible resolution to this situation

  • i love your walkthroughs but dam teogoff's image for me is in pieces now bad BAD chose, oh well i guess that way it a blind lets play, but still wow man bad chose, anyway good other vids. X [ T-T =/ EVIL TOEGOFF

  • Sorry Toegoff, but after seeing you kill the werewolves, YOU MADE THE LIST!! (The Elf, not the real life human)

  • lol at that spastic wolf at the end

  • WERS JACOB AT!!!!!!! XD

  • @kaganluvstacos am shocked you would even say that joke or not these are sorta real werewolf no wee gay one that cant kill a sparkly vamp

  • Toe, incase you're doing another playthrough for random fun my way of beating this boss was just to have Shale quake the wolves while i (the mage) run off and join Zathrian and just beat down witherfang because after you defeat her, the battle is over

  • just out of curiosity, how do you kill a rock?

  • @RosalieHale1995 With a hammer.

  • @thatfallout3guy

    riiiiight.

  • 8:10 he froze the treeO.O

  • you crushed the good ending with a giant heavy mallet

  • you crushed the good ending with a giant heavy mallet :(

  • Woah what weapon does your guy have it looks awesome

  • lol a straggling werewolf.

  • EVERYONE, HE WAS JUST PLAYIGN AS THE REAL CHARACTER, TOEGOFF WOULD DO IF IT WAS REALITY SO DONT GO MOANIGN AT HIM... plse stfu now

  • You do know if you beat the elf guy the wolves will be human and the elfs will join your team in the finall battle

  • Stop spoiling,you guys are the real monsters here.

  • @orlyshark We are just explaining what we think is the better choice here.We are also not spoiling we are just telling the other side to this quest.

  • u suck, u killd the werewolves-.-

  • Dude, you were so lucky to have Witherfang attack Zathrian at the end! And in my opinion, it doesn't matter which "moral" choice you made this time around, that just supports the re-playability of this game.

  • I think you should leave allistair behind, he really holds you back

  • i sided with elves too but fought the elf, then he gave up and lifted the curse.

  • its sad you sided with that monster of an elf!!

  • i was hoping he'd see the bigger picture

  • i think you made a mistake... you take trees to fight in battle... rather then werewolves?

    Trees VS were wolves... CMON MAN DX

  • he gets elvin archers which are very usefull for the last boss

  • does anyone think that there might be any vampires in this cause if there is i will kill each and every one of them

  • finished the game and didn't encounter even 1 vampire

  • does anyone kno if when u dl the dlc does it stay there for all accounts (new games) that u start with? idk if this is a dumb question but i was wondering that

  • @killapOOn312: yes, dlcs will be there for every new character as long as you are logged in with the same EA account.

  • if you side with the lady zathrien sends giant trees 2 fight

    why didnt he do it of you side with him

  • @BladeTheHedgehog0

    its simply for a fair fight whichever way you go, if you side with zathrian, its the party + zathrian vs witherfang + wolves,

    if you side with witherfang its witherfang + party vs zathrian + trees

  • actuallty witherfang doesnt help you fight zathrain he freezes all the wolves

  • well since you done what you have to do

    its nice to see the other side i didnt choosed xD

    hell they are bloody strong~!!

  • i reall ywanted warewolf ally but i guess it wasnt meant to be :(

  • I hope the werewolves eat you alive and use your bones for play ing fetch and hiding in holes for storage!! Thats it im calling P.E.T.A.

  • elfs or the werebests:D i like werebeasts:D what attack elf or werebeasts ?:D

  • if you go with the wolfs you fight zathrian and when you almost kill him he gives up and breaks the curse and comes to your side

  • so you get 2 for the price of 1?

  • ya it all works out good that way

  • kick ass

  • get Zathrian GET ZATHRIAN lol

  • Actually, for another playthrough if u insist on the ritual and fight Zathrian then he will submit and agree to it and die peacefully and the elves will still side with u and u will get credit for helping the elves even so.

  • yep that was the better choice

  • I think as an elf, Togoff did the "right" thing in siding with his people...

  • Although he could have still got the elves to side with him if he got Zathrian to do the ritual aswell. That would have been the morally good ending.

    Toegoff still got the elves to side with him but through the morally bad means.

  • I can't wait to see what you do at orzamar, seeing as there are so many ways to resolve the issues there. And it really changes your perspective if youve played the noble dwarf origin.

    And very nice job on the fight , did a lot better than I did!

  • I stand by Toegoff on the decision to kill the pups.

    Let it be known that not only will there be elves, but said elves shall have EXCELLENT leather gloves!

  • dude... i disagree with u

    werewolf also can help u in the army.

    the damm mage should let shale kill him

    he started all this and it only right if he end without harming those wolf and the lady

  • i wonder if the elves would hav still joined you if you decided to kill the elf mage and lift the curse.

  • they would nt join u and after killing that mage , it wont even affected those recruit the elf...

  • so you could still recruit the elves but not the werewolves after the curse has been lifted? man that sucks.

  • Perhaps he didnt think killing the elf would have any effect on the curse.

  • I would've picked the wolves for three reasons:

    A final battle with them by my side would be epic.

    The elves have a chance of still being friendly.

    It would've been easier to take care of the elf with an army of wolves, instead of fighting that army.

    Shame that they're out.

  • The wolves could still be bitter. They've been cursed for a good long time. Perhaps now as truly thinking beings and not as savage, they could form an actual plan against the elves. They could also turn on me in the final battle when the blood rage hits.

    The elves might also lose hope. Remember, they believed the keeper discovered ancient magic long lost to the culture. Does this help to inspire them? When they find out it's a lie, would they crumble?

  • @Toegoff I chose to fight Zathrian with the werewolves as allies and when was defeated, he lifted the curse and died with it, but the werewolves became human again... too bad for the alliance... the elves still side with you though...

  • @Toegoff Correct. Swiftrunner is actually even more unhappy with the result, saying that the revenge does not soothe him. If you can put the pieces together of everything he's said from the beginning and from all endings, you'll find out that he and his people would have actually rather died or gained their humanity, rather than live as creatures rejected from their own society.

  • @Toegoff you could have just freed the werewolves from their curse

    by agreeing to the lady's ritual

    no-one (cept zathrian) needed to die

    but toegoff (the character not you) is now in my eyes a xenophobic bitch who will kill anyone but his own species no matter what they did

  • @Michaeluj i actually killed witherfang and killed zathrian after. its actually easier than you would think to kill zathrian. i did it on my first try on normal difficulty and i'm not positive but i'm pretty sure that the werewolves turn on you. not to helpful for your army against the darkspawn is it buddy ;)

  • Aah and sot the great and somewat peaceful race of werewolf ends... WITH A TOEGOFF AXE TO THE FACE!!!

  • epic fight

  • Great video, once again. Made me laugh a lot

  • When the Master player say's alistair/Toegoff to drink poition drink it now.

  • I just finished this part about 2 hours ago and killed the wolf also instead of bringing zethrian

  • nice, that was a long battle

  • Quite the fight.

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