Wow,,these are just the results of budget cuts for students in london,,,wait until they shake up the billions of welfare, foodstamp, government houseing ,government recipiants in america,,,by cutting those programs ,,,the projects will erupt with anger,,,, the ghettos wite and black,,, will be baby hell holes,,, use your eye to see,,,
Meanwhile the Brits are wallowing in pride over thier Royal families (overpaid welfare recipients) multi million dollar wedding courtesy of the tax payers of course. Talk about flock of sheep
i wonder if they realise how much people arent going to be able to afford a proper education at all, and more people are going to end up on jobseekers and other benefits. .
"Does the government fear us? Or do we fear the government? When the people fear the government, tyranny has found victory. The federal government is our servant, not our master!" -Thomas Jefferson ***[COPY THIS TO EVERY VIDEO ON YOUTUBE]]***
@EasyEbookMan The riot police are not the enemy, the system is the enemy...and blind acts of violence are not going to have any effect on the system, other that giving the media an oppurtunity to derail the protest movement.
The most effective demonstrations are those that are largely peaceful, thus forcing the state to use violence to keep the upper hand. If people simply unite in solidarity, organize, and demonstrate....what need for violence is there?
from the high command of anarchist powerbranch no longer shall the populace hold back all out attack on anyone standing in your way many shall die but your actions will overthrow those feeding their children on your sweat and tears no longer following police so you get tired overrun the lines with your strenth and beat them down because they are their power when they are gone they will fall and you will triumph this is a fact that has been studied they count on your hesitance
College is not for everyone. College graduates feel more entitled. Those who go to trade schools or don't attend college are better off in some cases. College is just big business. They want you to have student loan debt out of a sense of entitlement. It just like peole buyig homes they cannot afford.
That is a good idea. My old Manager's boss was studying a plumbing course despite being on something like £70,000 per annum. Never know when you might get made redundant, do you? Better get your overalls out. Plumbing is a very lucrative business indeed. Have you seen how much they charge just for callout?
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog yes indeed, but i read an article few days ago saying how protectionnist the corporation is. So even if you took some courses I dont think you can practise just like that, you need some kind of certification that they would barely give you.
@TheDavid2222.....They blew it David.....As soon as the students started rioting, breaking things, spray painting, vandalising statues, hitting the Royals......bad moves, incredibly dumb moves for "educated" people to take....showed themselves as the dirt they are.......20 year olds have no life experience....they can't expect people to support them when they resort to anarchy....that wasn't demonstrating......that was pure badness
@EF2000CanFly We want money to be put into the education system, not taken out. There arethousands of ways to cut spending that don't involve taking it from the students. Take it from the million dollar jails. Anything but this.
@edrftvygbdhskfksjskj Money ? hahahahahah Money is not worth anything it's just paper, if anything it only has sentimental value. The stupidity of you type of people make the government look powerful. Either way you won't get what you want, The governments puppet masters have a plan to follow and they will complete it by the looks of things.
@edrftvygbdhskfksjskj That's because they made it valuable to you and others (Through banking via Knights Templars) when really it isn't. Expect this type of stuff to get worse. It will get worse we are at the end of the cycle where our and many other currencies are going to be worth the paper they are as the money system was designed to do it. You shouldn't be worried about the education system as with in 7 years that will be at the least of your issues. Living will be your main issue soon:)
@EF2000CanFly The criminal class waants chaos to restructure society to their globalist liking by estroying national soverignty and the city state as we know it. They want Europe and the Euro to fall.
@mikeyo1234 We all no what happens to politicians, prime ministers and presidents who try to change things from the inside. Look at JFK; they get assasinated. Better off doing something from the outside; we need to overthrow them. I think you'll see it as a virtual revolution though. It will be orchestrated online, social networks and things like this, there's power in numbers and there's more people on the street than there is police etc.
@mikeyo1234 Maybe I should tell people what they want to hear. i.e. that violence is acceptable. Students should get education for free.
Maybe you should travel to some developing countries, and maybe then you'd come back embarrassed by your enormous expectations of what you should be offered on plate. Oops yet again I speak the truth... ouch.
@ToeInspector Violence is not the solution. Public opinion is turning against the students because of the violence. Your cause is lost.
You have to think strategically to win a cause. Violence doesn't do anything in cases like this. People need to focus their anger in to positive action that really gets results.
if you hate the government then why not become a politician? If you hate the police why not join and change it from the inside?
@kaczorofficial Next time I disagree with you maybe I should come round and smash up your house and set fire to your belongings. Of course the police would stop me from doing it... however in that instance I doubt you'd be moaning about the police then.
The students have lost the cause due to the violence. Public opinion is turning against the students.
@HANIFX No sadly you've lost the entire cause. As soon as the violence started and a large percentage of students not complaining against the violence happened, then the students lost face. The game is now lost. If you'd kept it peaceful you would have had a chance.
@goody657 Violence is unacceptable in this instance. If you believe in a cause you have to think strategically. The students cause is now over because the general public are not behind the violence. It's too late for you now, you should have thought of that! At least think of it next time you want your message heard. Trust me, it's the best way.
There are a few instances when violence IS justified, but it's VERY rare.
@karlkarlkarl1234 Violence is wrong in this instance though. Next time I disagree with you maybe I should come round and set light to your car and smash up your house. If I did the police would rightly arrest me and try and stop me doing it. i.e. they would protect you! Be careful with what you say!
I'm not saying you're wrong to be angry, I'm just saying don't be a wanker.
@femguy That is obviously wrong, but if we always focus on the worst then where does it get us? There will always be violent police officers, and indeed violent students, however we mustn't make the mistake of thinking all police officers and students are violent.
The students and police have both lost respect over the violence. I have heard too many students agree with the violence, which is no worse the Muslims not speaking out against extremist Muslims.
Very interesting...Well, after paying extotionate fees at these Universities, there really is NO Guarantee that you will even get a Graduate job. The most amazing thing about the fees increase is that the very people who are making students pay for University either got their University education free or came from rich families, in which case they never had to worry about money. Besides, I knew that even with all the protests, marches etc, the Government would still increase the fees.
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog Yes and if you don't earn over £21,000 you won't need to pay it back. Is it really that bad? So if you don't get a graduate job, you're probably ok. Life is so hard isn't it lol.
Well, actually it is really that bad as the money accrues interest the longer you take to pay it back. I currently owe £26,000 on my student loan and that's not the amount I took. I have had a Grad job and was paying the money back, that job at a UK University didn't work out, but currently working in a job paying less than the threshold, so they will NEVER see any of that money ever again unless I get a better paying job.
3. Is it a good system that you don't have to pay it if you don't have a well paid job?
It's about time people started taking responsibility. If you weren't forced to do your degree or tricked in to thinking it was cheap, then I think you don't have much to complain about.
Whether I chose to do my degree is not the point. The reasoning behind doing the degree was that I would be able to get a better paying job/career when I graduated. I didn't realise that most employers don't care much if you have a degree in the UK, these days.
Actually, I started my degree in 1998 just after Labour got in and scrapped the student grants for University students. I have never voted Labour since then. I took a year out to work and the next year I had to pay for it.
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog "Whether I chose to do my degree is not the point" - You really believe that? Come on admit it, if you chose to do something that costs money, then you alone are responsible, if you think differently then you are either lying to yourself, delusional or not very intelligent. So which is it?
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog i did read what you said. Maybe you are a poor communicator, or maybe I'm not telling you what you want to hear. Also to be fair you haven't really listened to me properly.
Anyway listen, it seems you want life to be 'fair' and that you want things handed on a plate. While you think that you will be unhappy.
Look, I don't want anything handed to me on a plate. If you think you know me by reading a few lines of text I have written on Youtube, then you are obviously wrong. I'm supposed to be relaxing and putting my feet up now, not arguing/discussing pointlessly with you. Once again, no I am not a poor communicator, but I don't have anything to prove to you, either way. These empty arguments change nothing anyway. They are just opinions, and we all have our differing opinions.
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog "The reasoning behind doing the degree was that I would be able to get a better paying job/career when I graduated" - Where did you get this expectation from? Who actually told you this? There are no guarantees in life.
I think you are just angry because your boss is getting well paid and you aren't. You are angry that your life isn't going as well as you'd hoped. I am sorry that it isn't, but why moan about it, why not do something about it?
I just saw this. Actually, if you knew me, which you don't, you would know that I am not of the jealous nature. I just don't like to see people put into positions which they do not deserve to be in. Also, I don't like working with "oppressors", these fat and dowdy women who want to make everybody else's life a misery because they are unhappy with self. That is what I am NOT happy about. Ironically, this fat whale, numbskull and OPPRESSOR of a Manager worked at a UK University!
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog I would like everything in life to be free, however this isn't how life works. You'll realise that when you're older.
Young people start off with very ideological political views, and as they age they mix this with 'reality', which is why most people become more conservative as they age. Come back in 20 years and see what you think then.
Who said they wanted everything in life to be free? Rubbish talk. Anyway, do you know how old I am? You don't, so don't make assumptions.
The reason why everything in the UK is getting so hard is that there is a lot of mismanagement, wasting of money and overspending. How can some people be Graduates earning £14,000 - £15,000 while others with no qualifications at all be earning over £200,000 per annum? Is it even worth it going to University these days, I wonder?
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog "Is it even worth it going to University these days, I wonder?" - I don't know. Well you chose to go, so no sympathy for the bill. If I choose to buy an expensive car would it be fair to complain about the cost?
If these jobs for £200,000 per annum don't need qualifications then why don't you apply? :)
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog "Is it even worth it going to University these days, I wonder?" - did you think that having a degree meant that you'd get a whack of cash? If so then you are delusional. I can't remember a university prospectus ever promising wads of cash for a qualification.
Actually, no I didn't think University or a degree meant that I would get a "whack of cash". I did think, however, that it would improve my prospects of getting a better job. There are so many Graduates who are not working to their full potential. You are just so sarcastic.
Anyway, it suits me fine if the Government wants to waste money as usual. I have no ROI and neither do they, so conclusion is that WE ALL LOSE...No wonder all the foreign companies are taking over the UK.
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog I think a better system would be that there should only be a certain number of degrees per field. If there isn't many jobs in a particular field, then it's a waste of everyone's time both student, tax payer and educator for someone to do a pointless degree.
Degrees aren't just there for fun, or as a 'right', they are supposed to be something to help someone got a decent job. If you don't think you'll get a job with a particular degree then either don't do it or...
Listen up, I already have my degree and had a Graduate job with an asshole for a Manager who gerself had NO QUALIFICATIONS, not even an O' Level or GCSE. My degree is in Business Information Technology. I currently DO NOT have a Grad job and I'm not earning enough to pay back the student loan. iI was earning more money when I DID NOT have a degree and was in constant credit. These days I am constantly broke. I am one of many. These days, degrees are a scam to get people into debt.
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog "with an asshole for a Manager who gerself had NO QUALIFICATIONS" - Life is sometimes not fair, deal with it. Why not set up your own company and be your own boss? In this country you have the opportunities and right to do that.
"These days, degrees are a scam to get people into debt." - You think it's a scam, and yet it is YOU who CHOSE to do your degree, and you were aware of the costs. If it's a scam, then you scammed yourself, admit it!
I no longer work there, if you read and digested you would know that.
Actually, there is no flaw in my argument. These days, it's not about WHAT you know, but WHO you know. You can get a fantastic job if you have the right contacts. You don't have to know anything.
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog "it's not about WHAT you know, but WHO you know" - Why not get to know those people then?
"You can get a fantastic job if you have the right contacts" - Well my brother turned down a place at Cambridge University, and went to an 'ordinary' university. He didn't know anyone or have any contacts that you speak of, and yet he has a very highly paid job. How did he get it? It's called hard work.
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog (cont)... or do a degree that will have a higher probability of creating a job at the end of it.
All would be graduates should be forced to go on a course which gets them to research how many jobs there are in the field they want to go in. If there isn't jobs in that area, then hopefully it will make them think twice about doing that degree. I wish people would realise this! A degree isn't supposed to be a 3 year holiday like some people seem to think (not all).
@xboxlivew8yne8 Completely agree mate. Do know what makes me laugh; these politicians have been to university, so they know what it's like. Look how fast they turn there back on us when presented with the currupt monetary system.
By having tuition fees what we are saying about higher education is that it has value. It is not something to be entered into lightly. It is not just some jaunt at others expense to study non subjects like media studies.
Media and People have to stop labeling the protesters who smashed stuff up and grafittied as 'violent' because it sound so negative which makes others think that they are in the wrong.
Nobody would dare say our soldiers who fought in WW2 were violent because they fought for us future people. Same with the protest. I respect all the protesters for their bravery who stood up to the riot police for the sake of Britains future.
Hopefully the students get inside ALL westminister buildings next time.
@00Xander00 The students' case is dead in the water. If they knew it was the cenotaph they were attacking I would say their actions are bordering on evil. If they didn't know what it was you have to gasp in amazement that such people would even be at university without knowing such things. This has NOTHING to do with education. If they care about education why not protest about the dramatic fall in standards in schools? They don't because schools are free. They just want university to be.
@hernhillrebel I respect Winston Churchil a lot for what he stood for. I respect the actual him and not a statue. Calling it borderline evil for defacing a rock in the shape of him is being superficial.
Popular statue gets vandalised in an anti-government protest > this helps gain WIDE media attention on the uni cuts topic.
People view news > public start to question the current government making them less likely to remain in power next general election.
I'm glad you respect what Churchill stood for. In the public mind we remember him for defeating Hitler. He also represents all those who died, and in our family we remember our Great Uncle who was shot down by the Germans. Now Churhcill had faults, but attacking his statue and the centotaph was a huge blunder because he is an icon. I remember the days (up till the 1970's) when we looked up to students as our best people. Those days are long gone.
@00Xander00 So throwing glass bottles, snooker balls, flares and dragging police into the crowd and pulling them off their horses isn't violent because you agree with their cause?
I see a flaw in logic there. I'm a student myself, and this was a legitimate protest, but what a lot of them proved is that they don't really know what they're talking about and also seem to have no grasp of reality.
There are much bigger things to protest about - this reaction is very selfish.
@ska2808 I didn't say it wasn't violent. I said the media have to stop labelling it as violent as it sets the wrong impression. I was just comparing the ww2 soldiers who where also violent but they had to be to get the job done, they aren't labelled as violent. It should be same with the protest... A peaceful protest isn't going to go anywhere.
A violent protest will gain media attention, therefore making the current government less likely to be voted again in the next general election.
This is proof the government does not listen too "the people" nor do they care about "the people" ... "the people" elect them via voting... looks like parliament will be in power for a bit and then welcome a new group of individuals.
@Liendoelcm Violence is not the way. Russia is not the way. Peaceful protests in the UK are the way forward.
The students cause is now over because public opinion is against them. People need to start thinking strategically. Did students really think that violence would get them what they wanted. The government will be secretly pleased with this outcome, because they have won. I feel bad for the peaceful students who spoke out against the violent ones.
@Liendoelcm people who help themselves are succesful. Maybe the people in Russia should be rioting if the situation isn't good enough there. I've read enough history to realize that it literally is that simple. If enough of the people rise up against oppression the people win. Look what happened in Iran for example. I'm not saying the government change in Iran was a good one though. Organization is key. An organized people's movement can topple ANYTHING!
Well, I agree with you. Oppression is what it is. However, I knew that the Conservatives would help only the rich as per usual at everyone else's expense. That is what they do. Labour was too slack, while the Conservatives are too strict. There needs to be a fine balance.
‘Good on you mate, hope you get to use some ultra-violence of the bellends.’
When will ACPO grow a pair and give us water cannons, CS grenades and baton guns in public order situations!!!, Saying that anyone seen that crowd control taser that does about 30 people in on ego on youtube, taser is the future!!!!!
‘’Yeah won’t be over soon but could all be solved by a few marksmen on roof tops and a few well placed head shots.’
@ Kickracistarse......... Steady on old boy keep your pecker up , have a Big Mac on me and one will leave you with a quote that may be of some use whenever a time you feel the world is against you ......... " Cry and you cry alone but laugh and the world laughs with you " . ( Adolf Hitler Berlin 1945 ) . Merry Christmas and a happy new year .
@Albert18264 - Hmm, can't say I remember reading that particular Adolph quote when I was studying Nazi Germany as part of my FREE Politics degree, but then it was some time ago :)
Sorry about being a bit OTT earlier in the thread but this present Govt really are a bunch of cunts. It's obvious what their real agenda is, ie that higher education is going to become the right of the wealthy as it was 30 years ago.
RESISTANCE IS NOT FUTILE!, WE GONNA WIN THIS THING!!, HUMAN KIND IS TOO GOOD!!!, WE ARE NOT A BUNCH OF UNDER ACHIEVERS!!!!, WE ARE GONNA STAND UP!!!! AND WE ARE GONNA BE HUMAN BEINGS!!!!!, WE ARE GONNA GET FIGHT ABOUT
THE REAL THINGS!!!, THE THINGS THAT MATTER!!!!!!, CREATIVITY!!!!!!, AND THE DYNAMIC HUMAN SPIRIT THAT REFUSES TO SUBMIT!!!
WELL THATS IT, THATS ALL I GOT TO SAY, TO YOU FOOL.
See how the Govt media (ie,BBC, SKY, ITV etc) is desperately trying to describe the demos as "riots". Absolutely no discussion of the real reasons for the demos. The Govt media are doing what their corporate masters have ordered them to do. The people who work in these media organisations are gutless cowards and one wonders how these scum sleep at night. We are supposed to be loyal patriotic, military worshipping sheeple who lamely accept every lie the Govt tell us. FUCK THEM
Bunch of losers these cretins deserve jack shit if they want to get a better educatuion then get a job and pay for it . If any of these retards are caught for causing damage to buildings or monuments then they should be given the birch and made to clean up the mess on national TV . Any spare cash that the tax payer can afford should be given to the elderly not these mongs , the way they behaved during the protests proves they do not have enough brain cells to invest in their pathetic lives .
@Albert18264 <-------- definitely not a graduate then, LOL.
Get back to your job of cleaning toilets or mopping up puke in MacDonald's boy. Your jealousy is obvious for all to see. Maybe if you had worked harder at school instead of smoking crack behind the bike sheds you wouldn't be filled with such bile and hatred but blaming present (and future) students for your lack of prospects is laughable. Only you are to blame for your wasted and useless life so stop blaming everyone else, you moron.
Our angels are now facing a mediocre future in life. It'll take exceptional individuals to reach a better lifestyle riddled with debt. Our youth groups are already strategically developing their criminal business plans. Especially after hearing that Police cracked a Young Person's skull? Baton’s are meant and taught for arms and legs only. The youth see it as things to come and don't want to be subjected to democratic violence by policemen who weren’t voted into the system via public vote?
Our angels are now facing a mediocre future in life. It'll take exceptional individuals to reach a better lifestyle riddled with debt. Our youth groups are already strategically developing their criminal business plans. Especially after hearing that Police cracked a Young Person's skull? Baton’s are meant and taught for arms and legs only. The youth see it as things to come and don't want to be subjected to democratic violence by policemen who weren’t voted into the system via public vote?
Time present and time past Are both perhaps present in time future, And time future contained in time past. If all time is eternally present All time is unredeemable. What might have been is an abstraction Remaining a perpetual possibility Only in a world of speculation. What might have been and what has been Point to one end, which is always present. Footfalls echo in the memory Down the passage which we did not take Towards the door we never opened
there is something seriously wrong in western democracies today where parliaments refuse to represent the public and the public cannot veto their decisions. After the war the British government went to New Zealand for advice in building redistributive democracy. The end result was very good with free education, health care, etc... Now both countries have dismantled this idea. So the question is what happened?
I hope the students smash the crap out of London why do they have to pay for a better education at all. I'm a working man and I support the students and hope they get what they want. Down with the corrupt government .
@xboxlivew8yne8 So, as a 'working man' you are obviously happy that your taxes will be used to pay for the damage? Well I'm a working man and I sure as hell ain't! Bring on civil disobedience by all means, but don't trash London!
@xboxlivew8yne8 you think its good that there taking it out on inoccent people, did the shop owner who saw his shop trashed want the fees not,but he got luted, the ones who are violent and pathetic, the ones who are peacefull good for them
It is scum like you who just bend over and take the length of the government's massive cock of injustice that should go fuck themselves. You are a shit human-being and an embarrassment to all freedom loving people around the world.
@karlkarlkarl1234 im not saying dont fucking protest you limp dick im saying do it where the goverment is at Number 10 downing street or the houses of parliment
@xboxlivew8yne8 "why do they have to pay for a better education at all" - Why do you think that people have a right to free higher education? Isn't it good enough that education up to 16 is free. Maybe you should visit some developing countries and get rid of your delusional expectations of what you expect to be given to you on a plate for free.
The hope is to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words; they are perspectives. So if you’ve seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unkown to you then I would suggest you that you allow [these riots] to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, and you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek…together we will give them [a message] that will NEVER EVER BE FORGOT!
I am sure the majority of the population will promote the idea and ask for any politician to give the example.
When asked, if a politician refuse to be transparent, he will loose all his votes. We only need one politician to make the first step, all the others will look corrupted if they dont follow.
To be fair in the US the taxes are a lot lower then in the uk. Yeah okay, so we get our hospital treatment paid for thru our taxes but the cost of living x earnings is totally out of balance. No hope of getting a better paid job if you can't get to uni. And I know for a fact that Travel Agents get paid a lot better in the US then in UK. The pay for that proffesion is diabolical.
The government are completely targeting the wrong people here. There will be a severe shortage of doctors, nurses, teachers, scientists, engineers, lawyers, accountants etc etc etc because people cannot afford to go to university. Nobody is gonna ever get a mortgage with that much debt around their neck. As a parent, it concerns me that if my son wants to go to uni, it will not be an option
Here in the U.S. we have no real welfare programs before the age of 65, and people spend decades paying off their student loans. What, you Brits don't want to become like us Yanks. You don't want to follow us back to the 19th century? Where are your stiff upper lips and respect for the super rich who are your natural superiors? Maybe the royals will shed a tear for you.
This is what happens with socialism. Like Maggy said, eventually you run out of other people's money. Then those who think they are entitled to other people's money get angry.
No need to up the fees. Just up the tax(monumentally. but not too much that it seems like you're penalising their hard work) of the higher income brackets/large global businesses and lower the taxes of the middle class/lower class(only slightly). This will increase public spending. Then recovery of the econemy.
Everywhere austerity, the European middle class is poorer while the rich are becoming richer. Enough! Must take to the streets across London, Paris, Athens, Lisbon, Madrid, etc ...
@dennie6666 Im not a nigga or wharever but you stupid fag,the bankers like rothchild they are the real foes they rob you every single day of you money not a poor niggas,moslems or emigrants.even if you kill all niggas,moslems or emigrants,you still have to pay your taxes to enrich bankers.bloody brainwashed idiot.
Whos joining me in marching on parliament about the other things the liberal democrats didn't bring in. £10,000 tax allowance and PR... Fuck tuition fees. I want my first choice vote heard!!! Real democracy needs out and help poor with living cost while taking a load of non jobs out of the useless public sector... selfish students!!!
Do you guys realize that these people are not rioting because of education hikes?? They are rioting because they are revolutionaries..... communists and Marxists trying to cause as much damage as they can.
@mcap52 Let me guess, are you American ? Well I'd like to explain that to be a socialist is not an insult despite all the hilarious propaganda put out by the US over the last half century. For anyone fortunate enough not to live in the US we have not been subjected to the same brainwashing as you. A socialist participatory democracy as practiced in the ALBA countries of Latin America is the best working example of this and the best way out of the mess left by the capitalists.I hope you can join
If I was a cop I would have smashed every one of their fucking heads in. Fucking layabouts. And who takes an 8 year old to this sort of thing? I'll tell you who - a fucking dumbfuck.
Well done UK students, it's good to see people standing up for their rights and showing the spineless politicians that we have had enough or their neo-liberal agenda. Keep up the pressure , "The people united , can never be defeated".
@HelmetBlissta I completely agree that the students are fighting for a good cause, but i think that the methods are pointless, soon everyone will treat it like the G20 riots, where it wasnt about anti capatalism or the enviroment, but the succession of ugly images.
@lankyman0990 Agreed. Students are in the best position to instigate change in out society, unfettered by many of the pressures of modern life and full of idealism and enthusiasm. Remember you/us/students are working for a better world, don't let your selves be dragged into the violence that plays into the hands of the media and lawmakers. Use your intelligence, humor, spontaneity and wit to win the media
As an American student in college I give my full support to the students protesting in London. Why should their college costs go up while the royalties fart around in bentleys & overpriced shit. & to those people who say theyre too violent or watever....you gotta make noise to be heard. I'm hoping this flame spreads across the Atlantic b/c it's ridiculous how much college costs in the US, more than peoples salaries. Only time will tell if American youth have it in them to stand up to the bs.
haha, reading some of the comments, you idiots make me laugh... "you can demonstate peacefully!!!!!" what a joke... I think the students have done the peacefull demonstaration at the begining and they were ignored... SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT... and some of the idiots comment that the students have disgraced the country
Wow,,these are just the results of budget cuts for students in london,,,wait until they shake up the billions of welfare, foodstamp, government houseing ,government recipiants in america,,,by cutting those programs ,,,the projects will erupt with anger,,,, the ghettos wite and black,,, will be baby hell holes,,, use your eye to see,,,
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joinusinsong 9 months ago
the poor are in majority, they will rise, they are already actually
the rich are the minority and will fall
Reiben91 9 months ago
keep the cuts. these riots are cool
drigerGANG 9 months ago
"Stop the cuts" - what f*cking planet are these people living on?
DO THEY HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW MUCH BUGGERING NEWLABOUR DID TO THE COUNTRY?
bertyUK 10 months ago
the rich will fall, no doubt
gasomat 11 months ago
Do you guys really wanna see a Real change?Don't go to School???????????????
TheMatrixgeneration 11 months ago
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Meanwhile the Brits are wallowing in pride over thier Royal families (overpaid welfare recipients) multi million dollar wedding courtesy of the tax payers of course. Talk about flock of sheep
chakazulu87 11 months ago
i wonder if they realise how much people arent going to be able to afford a proper education at all, and more people are going to end up on jobseekers and other benefits. .
starltrubymoon 11 months ago
Rioters play into the hands of politicians, they spoil the hard work 250,000 people done to get there massage to British nation.
justicepartyuk 11 months ago
WTF, education should be free for the English. Make the immigrants pay...
IL00KC00L 1 year ago
check out the theme song to the student riots! click on my page to listen!
FUCK NICK CLEGG.
ClubMangoMusic 1 year ago
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gaspachor 1 year ago
russian skinheads would beat the crap out of these english pansies.
rw5791 1 year ago
@rw5791 I wish they would! in fact fuck it, make it happen.
rxp758 1 year ago
@rw5791 Only if they could get their tiny dicks out of each others mouths for more than ten minutes you prick...
TacticalAtheist 1 year ago
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EasyEbookMan 1 year ago 18
@EasyEbookMan The riot police are not the enemy, the system is the enemy...and blind acts of violence are not going to have any effect on the system, other that giving the media an oppurtunity to derail the protest movement.
The most effective demonstrations are those that are largely peaceful, thus forcing the state to use violence to keep the upper hand. If people simply unite in solidarity, organize, and demonstrate....what need for violence is there?
wnxsilence 1 year ago
@wnxsilence I agree... soz I got all hyped up...lol.
I guess a sign with a simple msg that exposes the system can do more damage :)
EasyEbookMan 1 year ago
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from the high command of anarchist powerbranch no longer shall the populace hold back all out attack on anyone standing in your way many shall die but your actions will overthrow those feeding their children on your sweat and tears no longer following police so you get tired overrun the lines with your strenth and beat them down because they are their power when they are gone they will fall and you will triumph this is a fact that has been studied they count on your hesitance
ghostman3331 1 year ago
College is not for everyone. College graduates feel more entitled. Those who go to trade schools or don't attend college are better off in some cases. College is just big business. They want you to have student loan debt out of a sense of entitlement. It just like peole buyig homes they cannot afford.
ToxicOdiousOne 1 year ago
Solidarity with the students and unions.
The people united can never be defeated
HelmetBlissta 1 year ago
@jaar2001
That is a good idea. My old Manager's boss was studying a plumbing course despite being on something like £70,000 per annum. Never know when you might get made redundant, do you? Better get your overalls out. Plumbing is a very lucrative business indeed. Have you seen how much they charge just for callout?
BeautyHealthZoneBlog 1 year ago
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog yes indeed, but i read an article few days ago saying how protectionnist the corporation is. So even if you took some courses I dont think you can practise just like that, you need some kind of certification that they would barely give you.
jaar2001 1 year ago
@TheDavid2222.....They blew it David.....As soon as the students started rioting, breaking things, spray painting, vandalising statues, hitting the Royals......bad moves, incredibly dumb moves for "educated" people to take....showed themselves as the dirt they are.......20 year olds have no life experience....they can't expect people to support them when they resort to anarchy....that wasn't demonstrating......that was pure badness
Liendoelcm 1 year ago
Why do limp wristed left wing liberals want everything for free? Are they dumb or do they want to cause chaos?
EF2000CanFly 1 year ago
@EF2000CanFly i don't know. either way, it's awesome.
SPOREthomas 1 year ago
@EF2000CanFly We want money to be put into the education system, not taken out. There arethousands of ways to cut spending that don't involve taking it from the students. Take it from the million dollar jails. Anything but this.
edrftvygbdhskfksjskj 1 year ago 9
@edrftvygbdhskfksjskj
School is a big rip off its the unions and teachers that demand so much pay as well as the book writers
EF2000CanFly 1 year ago
@edrftvygbdhskfksjskj Money ? hahahahahah Money is not worth anything it's just paper, if anything it only has sentimental value. The stupidity of you type of people make the government look powerful. Either way you won't get what you want, The governments puppet masters have a plan to follow and they will complete it by the looks of things.
LucifersDisciple6 10 months ago
@LucifersDisciple6 Say money isn't worth anything all you want, but you can't survive without it.
edrftvygbdhskfksjskj 10 months ago
@edrftvygbdhskfksjskj That's because they made it valuable to you and others (Through banking via Knights Templars) when really it isn't. Expect this type of stuff to get worse. It will get worse we are at the end of the cycle where our and many other currencies are going to be worth the paper they are as the money system was designed to do it. You shouldn't be worried about the education system as with in 7 years that will be at the least of your issues. Living will be your main issue soon:)
LucifersDisciple6 10 months ago
@edrftvygbdhskfksjskj Take it from the trillionares.
vspec2wrx 9 months ago
@EF2000CanFly The criminal class waants chaos to restructure society to their globalist liking by estroying national soverignty and the city state as we know it. They want Europe and the Euro to fall.
ToxicOdiousOne 1 year ago
its a good job yr fees have gone up so now u can pay for the damage and injury u scum av caused !!!!!!!!!!
markyboy2105 1 year ago
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Food, gas, education, LIFE and everything else is gonna raise.... except poor people's minimum wage.
The world is already in debt and at war with each other. Start saving what you can for yourselves right now.
TheResistancedude56 1 year ago
@mikeyo1234 We all no what happens to politicians, prime ministers and presidents who try to change things from the inside. Look at JFK; they get assasinated. Better off doing something from the outside; we need to overthrow them. I think you'll see it as a virtual revolution though. It will be orchestrated online, social networks and things like this, there's power in numbers and there's more people on the street than there is police etc.
slwestgate 1 year ago 17
@slwestgate - pity that wont happen , seeing as it is ideal.
ParadoxV666 11 months ago
well mikeyo1234, you have just made yourself a pretty hated guy haven't you?
kosty909 1 year ago
@kosty909 Telling the truth tends to have the effect. Some people would rather delude themselves in their ideological untenable bubbles.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@mikeyo1234 Maybe I should tell people what they want to hear. i.e. that violence is acceptable. Students should get education for free.
Maybe you should travel to some developing countries, and maybe then you'd come back embarrassed by your enormous expectations of what you should be offered on plate. Oops yet again I speak the truth... ouch.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@ToeInspector Violence is not the solution. Public opinion is turning against the students because of the violence. Your cause is lost.
You have to think strategically to win a cause. Violence doesn't do anything in cases like this. People need to focus their anger in to positive action that really gets results.
if you hate the government then why not become a politician? If you hate the police why not join and change it from the inside?
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@kaczorofficial Next time I disagree with you maybe I should come round and smash up your house and set fire to your belongings. Of course the police would stop me from doing it... however in that instance I doubt you'd be moaning about the police then.
The students have lost the cause due to the violence. Public opinion is turning against the students.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@HANIFX No sadly you've lost the entire cause. As soon as the violence started and a large percentage of students not complaining against the violence happened, then the students lost face. The game is now lost. If you'd kept it peaceful you would have had a chance.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@goody657 Violence is unacceptable in this instance. If you believe in a cause you have to think strategically. The students cause is now over because the general public are not behind the violence. It's too late for you now, you should have thought of that! At least think of it next time you want your message heard. Trust me, it's the best way.
There are a few instances when violence IS justified, but it's VERY rare.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
fuck state terrorism and fuck there state terrorists
cj4680 1 year ago
It's not just a "raise" they are fucking tripling the fees!!
So no way if you're poor that you're going to be getting the education you want.
I hope the fucking hang the criminals who are doing this and set London on fire!!!
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
@karlkarlkarl1234 Violence is wrong in this instance though. Next time I disagree with you maybe I should come round and set light to your car and smash up your house. If I did the police would rightly arrest me and try and stop me doing it. i.e. they would protect you! Be careful with what you say!
I'm not saying you're wrong to be angry, I'm just saying don't be a wanker.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
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check out 'police attack student in a wheelchair'on utube and see just how low this country can go
femguy 1 year ago
@femguy That is obviously wrong, but if we always focus on the worst then where does it get us? There will always be violent police officers, and indeed violent students, however we mustn't make the mistake of thinking all police officers and students are violent.
The students and police have both lost respect over the violence. I have heard too many students agree with the violence, which is no worse the Muslims not speaking out against extremist Muslims.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
Very interesting...Well, after paying extotionate fees at these Universities, there really is NO Guarantee that you will even get a Graduate job. The most amazing thing about the fees increase is that the very people who are making students pay for University either got their University education free or came from rich families, in which case they never had to worry about money. Besides, I knew that even with all the protests, marches etc, the Government would still increase the fees.
BeautyHealthZoneBlog 1 year ago
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog Yes and if you don't earn over £21,000 you won't need to pay it back. Is it really that bad? So if you don't get a graduate job, you're probably ok. Life is so hard isn't it lol.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@mikeyo1234
Well, actually it is really that bad as the money accrues interest the longer you take to pay it back. I currently owe £26,000 on my student loan and that's not the amount I took. I have had a Grad job and was paying the money back, that job at a UK University didn't work out, but currently working in a job paying less than the threshold, so they will NEVER see any of that money ever again unless I get a better paying job.
BeautyHealthZoneBlog 1 year ago
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog Your comment has arrived now, couldn't see it before.
1. Did you chose to do your degree?
2. Did you know how much it would cost?
3. Is it a good system that you don't have to pay it if you don't have a well paid job?
It's about time people started taking responsibility. If you weren't forced to do your degree or tricked in to thinking it was cheap, then I think you don't have much to complain about.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@mikeyo1234
Whether I chose to do my degree is not the point. The reasoning behind doing the degree was that I would be able to get a better paying job/career when I graduated. I didn't realise that most employers don't care much if you have a degree in the UK, these days.
Actually, I started my degree in 1998 just after Labour got in and scrapped the student grants for University students. I have never voted Labour since then. I took a year out to work and the next year I had to pay for it.
BeautyHealthZoneBlog 1 year ago
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog "Whether I chose to do my degree is not the point" - You really believe that? Come on admit it, if you chose to do something that costs money, then you alone are responsible, if you think differently then you are either lying to yourself, delusional or not very intelligent. So which is it?
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@mikeyo1234
Do you ever fully read what I type here? Go back and read what I said, will you.
BeautyHealthZoneBlog 1 year ago
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog i did read what you said. Maybe you are a poor communicator, or maybe I'm not telling you what you want to hear. Also to be fair you haven't really listened to me properly.
Anyway listen, it seems you want life to be 'fair' and that you want things handed on a plate. While you think that you will be unhappy.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@mikeyo1234
Look, I don't want anything handed to me on a plate. If you think you know me by reading a few lines of text I have written on Youtube, then you are obviously wrong. I'm supposed to be relaxing and putting my feet up now, not arguing/discussing pointlessly with you. Once again, no I am not a poor communicator, but I don't have anything to prove to you, either way. These empty arguments change nothing anyway. They are just opinions, and we all have our differing opinions.
BeautyHealthZoneBlog 1 year ago
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog "The reasoning behind doing the degree was that I would be able to get a better paying job/career when I graduated" - Where did you get this expectation from? Who actually told you this? There are no guarantees in life.
I think you are just angry because your boss is getting well paid and you aren't. You are angry that your life isn't going as well as you'd hoped. I am sorry that it isn't, but why moan about it, why not do something about it?
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@mikeyo1234
I just saw this. Actually, if you knew me, which you don't, you would know that I am not of the jealous nature. I just don't like to see people put into positions which they do not deserve to be in. Also, I don't like working with "oppressors", these fat and dowdy women who want to make everybody else's life a misery because they are unhappy with self. That is what I am NOT happy about. Ironically, this fat whale, numbskull and OPPRESSOR of a Manager worked at a UK University!
BeautyHealthZoneBlog 1 year ago
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog I would like everything in life to be free, however this isn't how life works. You'll realise that when you're older.
Young people start off with very ideological political views, and as they age they mix this with 'reality', which is why most people become more conservative as they age. Come back in 20 years and see what you think then.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@mikeyo1234
Who said they wanted everything in life to be free? Rubbish talk. Anyway, do you know how old I am? You don't, so don't make assumptions.
The reason why everything in the UK is getting so hard is that there is a lot of mismanagement, wasting of money and overspending. How can some people be Graduates earning £14,000 - £15,000 while others with no qualifications at all be earning over £200,000 per annum? Is it even worth it going to University these days, I wonder?
BeautyHealthZoneBlog 1 year ago
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog "Is it even worth it going to University these days, I wonder?" - I don't know. Well you chose to go, so no sympathy for the bill. If I choose to buy an expensive car would it be fair to complain about the cost?
If these jobs for £200,000 per annum don't need qualifications then why don't you apply? :)
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog "Is it even worth it going to University these days, I wonder?" - did you think that having a degree meant that you'd get a whack of cash? If so then you are delusional. I can't remember a university prospectus ever promising wads of cash for a qualification.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@mikeyo1234
Actually, no I didn't think University or a degree meant that I would get a "whack of cash". I did think, however, that it would improve my prospects of getting a better job. There are so many Graduates who are not working to their full potential. You are just so sarcastic.
Anyway, it suits me fine if the Government wants to waste money as usual. I have no ROI and neither do they, so conclusion is that WE ALL LOSE...No wonder all the foreign companies are taking over the UK.
BeautyHealthZoneBlog 1 year ago
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog I think a better system would be that there should only be a certain number of degrees per field. If there isn't many jobs in a particular field, then it's a waste of everyone's time both student, tax payer and educator for someone to do a pointless degree.
Degrees aren't just there for fun, or as a 'right', they are supposed to be something to help someone got a decent job. If you don't think you'll get a job with a particular degree then either don't do it or...
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@mikeyo1234
Listen up, I already have my degree and had a Graduate job with an asshole for a Manager who gerself had NO QUALIFICATIONS, not even an O' Level or GCSE. My degree is in Business Information Technology. I currently DO NOT have a Grad job and I'm not earning enough to pay back the student loan. iI was earning more money when I DID NOT have a degree and was in constant credit. These days I am constantly broke. I am one of many. These days, degrees are a scam to get people into debt.
BeautyHealthZoneBlog 1 year ago
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog "with an asshole for a Manager who gerself had NO QUALIFICATIONS" - Life is sometimes not fair, deal with it. Why not set up your own company and be your own boss? In this country you have the opportunities and right to do that.
"These days, degrees are a scam to get people into debt." - You think it's a scam, and yet it is YOU who CHOSE to do your degree, and you were aware of the costs. If it's a scam, then you scammed yourself, admit it!
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog It is bad that your boss is an asshole, but are you forced to keep working there or do you have a choice to leave?
Also having 'no qualifications' doesn't mean 'no skills'. Yet another flaw in your argument.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@mikeyo1234
I no longer work there, if you read and digested you would know that.
Actually, there is no flaw in my argument. These days, it's not about WHAT you know, but WHO you know. You can get a fantastic job if you have the right contacts. You don't have to know anything.
BeautyHealthZoneBlog 1 year ago
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@BeautyHealthZoneBlog "it's not about WHAT you know, but WHO you know" - Why not get to know those people then?
"You can get a fantastic job if you have the right contacts" - Well my brother turned down a place at Cambridge University, and went to an 'ordinary' university. He didn't know anyone or have any contacts that you speak of, and yet he has a very highly paid job. How did he get it? It's called hard work.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog Anyway let's just drop it. You've made up your mind already which is your right. I hope it works out for you.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@mikeyo1234
Yes, you are right. Let's just drop it. I also hope it works out for you too. Bye.
BeautyHealthZoneBlog 1 year ago
@BeautyHealthZoneBlog (cont)... or do a degree that will have a higher probability of creating a job at the end of it.
All would be graduates should be forced to go on a course which gets them to research how many jobs there are in the field they want to go in. If there isn't jobs in that area, then hopefully it will make them think twice about doing that degree. I wish people would realise this! A degree isn't supposed to be a 3 year holiday like some people seem to think (not all).
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
half of the rioters probably are not even students,they are just taunting and causing the riots........usually that`s what happens.
jeepers2655 1 year ago
@xboxlivew8yne8 Completely agree mate. Do know what makes me laugh; these politicians have been to university, so they know what it's like. Look how fast they turn there back on us when presented with the currupt monetary system.
slwestgate 1 year ago
@slwestgate Why not become a politician and try and change the system from the inside?
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
By having tuition fees what we are saying about higher education is that it has value. It is not something to be entered into lightly. It is not just some jaunt at others expense to study non subjects like media studies.
hernhillrebel 1 year ago
its is busy a busy street !
darkholicz 1 year ago
Media and People have to stop labeling the protesters who smashed stuff up and grafittied as 'violent' because it sound so negative which makes others think that they are in the wrong.
Nobody would dare say our soldiers who fought in WW2 were violent because they fought for us future people. Same with the protest. I respect all the protesters for their bravery who stood up to the riot police for the sake of Britains future.
Hopefully the students get inside ALL westminister buildings next time.
00Xander00 1 year ago
@00Xander00 The students' case is dead in the water. If they knew it was the cenotaph they were attacking I would say their actions are bordering on evil. If they didn't know what it was you have to gasp in amazement that such people would even be at university without knowing such things. This has NOTHING to do with education. If they care about education why not protest about the dramatic fall in standards in schools? They don't because schools are free. They just want university to be.
hernhillrebel 1 year ago
@hernhillrebel I respect Winston Churchil a lot for what he stood for. I respect the actual him and not a statue. Calling it borderline evil for defacing a rock in the shape of him is being superficial.
Popular statue gets vandalised in an anti-government protest > this helps gain WIDE media attention on the uni cuts topic.
People view news > public start to question the current government making them less likely to remain in power next general election.
The actions stll more evil than good?
00Xander00 1 year ago
@00Xander00 Thanks for your response.
I'm glad you respect what Churchill stood for. In the public mind we remember him for defeating Hitler. He also represents all those who died, and in our family we remember our Great Uncle who was shot down by the Germans. Now Churhcill had faults, but attacking his statue and the centotaph was a huge blunder because he is an icon. I remember the days (up till the 1970's) when we looked up to students as our best people. Those days are long gone.
hernhillrebel 1 year ago
@00Xander00 So throwing glass bottles, snooker balls, flares and dragging police into the crowd and pulling them off their horses isn't violent because you agree with their cause?
I see a flaw in logic there. I'm a student myself, and this was a legitimate protest, but what a lot of them proved is that they don't really know what they're talking about and also seem to have no grasp of reality.
There are much bigger things to protest about - this reaction is very selfish.
ska2808 1 year ago
@ska2808 I didn't say it wasn't violent. I said the media have to stop labelling it as violent as it sets the wrong impression. I was just comparing the ww2 soldiers who where also violent but they had to be to get the job done, they aren't labelled as violent. It should be same with the protest... A peaceful protest isn't going to go anywhere.
A violent protest will gain media attention, therefore making the current government less likely to be voted again in the next general election.
00Xander00 1 year ago
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00Xander00 1 year ago
This is proof the government does not listen too "the people" nor do they care about "the people" ... "the people" elect them via voting... looks like parliament will be in power for a bit and then welcome a new group of individuals.
Yocedeht 1 year ago
Russia Today.....If half of these rioting ninnies lived in Russia, they would be lucky to have a pair of shoes.
Liendoelcm 1 year ago
@Liendoelcm At us in Russia too disorders. Only in other occasion... Immigrants
TIREDofEVIL 1 year ago
@Liendoelcm Violence is not the way. Russia is not the way. Peaceful protests in the UK are the way forward.
The students cause is now over because public opinion is against them. People need to start thinking strategically. Did students really think that violence would get them what they wanted. The government will be secretly pleased with this outcome, because they have won. I feel bad for the peaceful students who spoke out against the violent ones.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
@Liendoelcm people who help themselves are succesful. Maybe the people in Russia should be rioting if the situation isn't good enough there. I've read enough history to realize that it literally is that simple. If enough of the people rise up against oppression the people win. Look what happened in Iran for example. I'm not saying the government change in Iran was a good one though. Organization is key. An organized people's movement can topple ANYTHING!
TheDavid2222 1 year ago
@TheDavid2222
Well, I agree with you. Oppression is what it is. However, I knew that the Conservatives would help only the rich as per usual at everyone else's expense. That is what they do. Labour was too slack, while the Conservatives are too strict. There needs to be a fine balance.
BeautyHealthZoneBlog 1 year ago
Form police chatroom 'inspectorgadget.wordpress
‘Nice to see the use of Arnolds to rap fingers pulling at barriers’
‘I live [sic] Arnold batons, can do so much damage with them.’
‘No dogs though….maybe next time.’
mycatistigger 1 year ago
‘Good on you mate, hope you get to use some ultra-violence of the bellends.’
When will ACPO grow a pair and give us water cannons, CS grenades and baton guns in public order situations!!!, Saying that anyone seen that crowd control taser that does about 30 people in on ego on youtube, taser is the future!!!!!
‘’Yeah won’t be over soon but could all be solved by a few marksmen on roof tops and a few well placed head shots.’
mycatistigger 1 year ago
At least the coalition goverment has done something right. Well done Cameron and Clegg.
IamTheTravisBickle 1 year ago
oh, dear people.of England and Ireland, the robber barons are at it again...may you prevail...
SaharaDeer 1 year ago
Until they listen to you?!? theyre destroying the class system. soon it will be us and them.
Irradicate 1 year ago
@ Kickracistarse......... Steady on old boy keep your pecker up , have a Big Mac on me and one will leave you with a quote that may be of some use whenever a time you feel the world is against you ......... " Cry and you cry alone but laugh and the world laughs with you " . ( Adolf Hitler Berlin 1945 ) . Merry Christmas and a happy new year .
Albert18264 1 year ago
@Albert18264 - Hmm, can't say I remember reading that particular Adolph quote when I was studying Nazi Germany as part of my FREE Politics degree, but then it was some time ago :)
Sorry about being a bit OTT earlier in the thread but this present Govt really are a bunch of cunts. It's obvious what their real agenda is, ie that higher education is going to become the right of the wealthy as it was 30 years ago.
Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you also.
kickracistarse 1 year ago
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RESISTANCE IS NOT FUTILE!, WE GONNA WIN THIS THING!!, HUMAN KIND IS TOO GOOD!!!, WE ARE NOT A BUNCH OF UNDER ACHIEVERS!!!!, WE ARE GONNA STAND UP!!!! AND WE ARE GONNA BE HUMAN BEINGS!!!!!, WE ARE GONNA GET FIGHT ABOUT
THE REAL THINGS!!!, THE THINGS THAT MATTER!!!!!!, CREATIVITY!!!!!!, AND THE DYNAMIC HUMAN SPIRIT THAT REFUSES TO SUBMIT!!!
WELL THATS IT, THATS ALL I GOT TO SAY, TO YOU FOOL.
watch?v=JJXspT2VtOE
aesthetictheorie 1 year ago
See how the Govt media (ie,BBC, SKY, ITV etc) is desperately trying to describe the demos as "riots". Absolutely no discussion of the real reasons for the demos. The Govt media are doing what their corporate masters have ordered them to do. The people who work in these media organisations are gutless cowards and one wonders how these scum sleep at night. We are supposed to be loyal patriotic, military worshipping sheeple who lamely accept every lie the Govt tell us. FUCK THEM
Time to fight back
kickracistarse 1 year ago
Let the bodies hit the floor
skdb16 1 year ago
Bunch of losers these cretins deserve jack shit if they want to get a better educatuion then get a job and pay for it . If any of these retards are caught for causing damage to buildings or monuments then they should be given the birch and made to clean up the mess on national TV . Any spare cash that the tax payer can afford should be given to the elderly not these mongs , the way they behaved during the protests proves they do not have enough brain cells to invest in their pathetic lives .
Albert18264 1 year ago
@Albert18264 <-------- definitely not a graduate then, LOL.
Get back to your job of cleaning toilets or mopping up puke in MacDonald's boy. Your jealousy is obvious for all to see. Maybe if you had worked harder at school instead of smoking crack behind the bike sheds you wouldn't be filled with such bile and hatred but blaming present (and future) students for your lack of prospects is laughable. Only you are to blame for your wasted and useless life so stop blaming everyone else, you moron.
kickracistarse 1 year ago
Hahaha, fuck college, you have to become riot police, not engineers.
shockolanu 1 year ago
Our angels are now facing a mediocre future in life. It'll take exceptional individuals to reach a better lifestyle riddled with debt. Our youth groups are already strategically developing their criminal business plans. Especially after hearing that Police cracked a Young Person's skull? Baton’s are meant and taught for arms and legs only. The youth see it as things to come and don't want to be subjected to democratic violence by policemen who weren’t voted into the system via public vote?
ColaBling 1 year ago
Our angels are now facing a mediocre future in life. It'll take exceptional individuals to reach a better lifestyle riddled with debt. Our youth groups are already strategically developing their criminal business plans. Especially after hearing that Police cracked a Young Person's skull? Baton’s are meant and taught for arms and legs only. The youth see it as things to come and don't want to be subjected to democratic violence by policemen who weren’t voted into the system via public vote?
ColaBling 1 year ago
All we are saying
Is give peace a chance
All we are saying
Is give peace a chance.
We've been down this road so many times.
jx14aby 1 year ago
London Student Riots HD December 2010 ( MASS COMPILATION ) watch?v=DNjdalma3Qo
danielofdoriaa 1 year ago
@danielofdoriaa it is a great video daniel..
hurchel 1 year ago
@danielofdoriaa nice, thanks
BowmanHath31 1 year ago
watch?v=JJXspT2VtOE
aesthetictheorie 1 year ago
it has began...social collapse is near...
dan4474 1 year ago
ExJWPedo 1 year ago
they need your money to bailout fucking greedy bankers.
tropolek 1 year ago
3 years at uni mean i go out with £27000 debt
Deegster96 1 year ago
there is something seriously wrong in western democracies today where parliaments refuse to represent the public and the public cannot veto their decisions. After the war the British government went to New Zealand for advice in building redistributive democracy. The end result was very good with free education, health care, etc... Now both countries have dismantled this idea. So the question is what happened?
cryoslave88 1 year ago
I hope the students smash the crap out of London why do they have to pay for a better education at all. I'm a working man and I support the students and hope they get what they want. Down with the corrupt government .
xboxlivew8yne8 1 year ago 20
@xboxlivew8yne8 So, as a 'working man' you are obviously happy that your taxes will be used to pay for the damage? Well I'm a working man and I sure as hell ain't! Bring on civil disobedience by all means, but don't trash London!
Mistermopar 1 year ago
@xboxlivew8yne8 you think its good that there taking it out on inoccent people, did the shop owner who saw his shop trashed want the fees not,but he got luted, the ones who are violent and pathetic, the ones who are peacefull good for them
Curt1233brit 1 year ago
@Curt1233brit
It is scum like you who just bend over and take the length of the government's massive cock of injustice that should go fuck themselves. You are a shit human-being and an embarrassment to all freedom loving people around the world.
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
@karlkarlkarl1234 im not saying dont fucking protest you limp dick im saying do it where the goverment is at Number 10 downing street or the houses of parliment
Curt1233brit 1 year ago
@xboxlivew8yne8 "why do they have to pay for a better education at all" - Why do you think that people have a right to free higher education? Isn't it good enough that education up to 16 is free. Maybe you should visit some developing countries and get rid of your delusional expectations of what you expect to be given to you on a plate for free.
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campaign4liberty 1 year ago
The hope is to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words; they are perspectives. So if you’ve seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unkown to you then I would suggest you that you allow [these riots] to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, and you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek…together we will give them [a message] that will NEVER EVER BE FORGOT!
thaiblacky 1 year ago
these students shudda fought back
EternalRhyme 1 year ago
@EternalRhyme they deserve fuck all after atacking prince charles.
slartyuk 1 year ago
@slartyuk
piss off.
boilonmehelmet 1 year ago
@boilonmehelmet lol great comeback ya spotty little oik.
slartyuk 1 year ago
@slartyuk Not bad,only took you 16 hours to think that up.prick.
boilonmehelmet 1 year ago
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Demosthenes0725 1 year ago
so why don't they sort out benefits and immigration, why attack students who already in debt because of fees
OakridgeProductions9 1 year ago
Divest the assets of the Royal Family -- over 20 billion conservatively?
The Queen is the richest woman in the world. The evil diamond industry has
the Royal Family in their back pocket. The French had it right over 2 centuries ago. Off With Their Heads!
pboscophoto 1 year ago
@Demosthenes0725
Spread the idea.
I am sure the majority of the population will promote the idea and ask for any politician to give the example.
When asked, if a politician refuse to be transparent, he will loose all his votes. We only need one politician to make the first step, all the others will look corrupted if they dont follow.
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gedgewints 1 year ago
The government is testing the people will now. Down to tyranny or up to the freedom. Choose.
mnmsdn 1 year ago
To be fair in the US the taxes are a lot lower then in the uk. Yeah okay, so we get our hospital treatment paid for thru our taxes but the cost of living x earnings is totally out of balance. No hope of getting a better paid job if you can't get to uni. And I know for a fact that Travel Agents get paid a lot better in the US then in UK. The pay for that proffesion is diabolical.
bus140808 1 year ago
The government are completely targeting the wrong people here. There will be a severe shortage of doctors, nurses, teachers, scientists, engineers, lawyers, accountants etc etc etc because people cannot afford to go to university. Nobody is gonna ever get a mortgage with that much debt around their neck. As a parent, it concerns me that if my son wants to go to uni, it will not be an option
bus140808 1 year ago
Here in the U.S. we have no real welfare programs before the age of 65, and people spend decades paying off their student loans. What, you Brits don't want to become like us Yanks. You don't want to follow us back to the 19th century? Where are your stiff upper lips and respect for the super rich who are your natural superiors? Maybe the royals will shed a tear for you.
TheForwardGaze 1 year ago
Fees should be increased higher than the government plans
shakey30000 1 year ago
student will never succeed, violence rewards violence. justice party will end tuition fee immediately.
justicepartyuk 1 year ago
Has the whole world gone mad or is it just me?
TheResistancedude56 1 year ago
@TheResistancedude56 Sadly you're absolutely right!
Mistermopar 1 year ago
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This is what happens with socialism. Like Maggy said, eventually you run out of other people's money. Then those who think they are entitled to other people's money get angry.
Minuteman9112012 1 year ago
No need to up the fees. Just up the tax(monumentally. but not too much that it seems like you're penalising their hard work) of the higher income brackets/large global businesses and lower the taxes of the middle class/lower class(only slightly). This will increase public spending. Then recovery of the econemy.
Dyltreeno 1 year ago
The French, Greeks are with you!
Everywhere austerity, the European middle class is poorer while the rich are becoming richer. Enough! Must take to the streets across London, Paris, Athens, Lisbon, Madrid, etc ...
Our elites do not understand force.
larue1789 1 year ago
@larue1789 You wont be our Elit of Future ? Nigger ,Moslems and many more Suckers ?! God help use !!!
dennie6666 1 year ago
@dennie6666 Im not a nigga or wharever but you stupid fag,the bankers like rothchild they are the real foes they rob you every single day of you money not a poor niggas,moslems or emigrants.even if you kill all niggas,moslems or emigrants,you still have to pay your taxes to enrich bankers.bloody brainwashed idiot.
tropolek 1 year ago
Whos joining me in marching on parliament about the other things the liberal democrats didn't bring in. £10,000 tax allowance and PR... Fuck tuition fees. I want my first choice vote heard!!! Real democracy needs out and help poor with living cost while taking a load of non jobs out of the useless public sector... selfish students!!!
jameshedleyturner 1 year ago
Do you guys realize that these people are not rioting because of education hikes?? They are rioting because they are revolutionaries..... communists and Marxists trying to cause as much damage as they can.
mcap52 1 year ago
@mcap52 Let me guess, are you American ? Well I'd like to explain that to be a socialist is not an insult despite all the hilarious propaganda put out by the US over the last half century. For anyone fortunate enough not to live in the US we have not been subjected to the same brainwashing as you. A socialist participatory democracy as practiced in the ALBA countries of Latin America is the best working example of this and the best way out of the mess left by the capitalists.I hope you can join
HelmetBlissta 1 year ago
@hansupgwai ooooooooooohhhh. Your penis so big, so big!
Ps:Talk is cheap! You like violence? Then go get bashed around in a mma ring!
DurexDurpaneu2 1 year ago
@DurexDurpaneu2 I do like violence. But only when I can hit people that aren't allowed to hit back. Thats why I smack puny students like you around
hansupgwai 1 year ago
@hansupgwai are you saying you're a police officer then?
oddn 1 year ago
If I was a cop I would have smashed every one of their fucking heads in. Fucking layabouts. And who takes an 8 year old to this sort of thing? I'll tell you who - a fucking dumbfuck.
hansupgwai 1 year ago
@hansupgwai dear me! you fucking idiot.
vallonia 1 year ago
Well done UK students, it's good to see people standing up for their rights and showing the spineless politicians that we have had enough or their neo-liberal agenda. Keep up the pressure , "The people united , can never be defeated".
HelmetBlissta 1 year ago
@HelmetBlissta I completely agree that the students are fighting for a good cause, but i think that the methods are pointless, soon everyone will treat it like the G20 riots, where it wasnt about anti capatalism or the enviroment, but the succession of ugly images.
lankyman0990 1 year ago
@lankyman0990 Agreed. Students are in the best position to instigate change in out society, unfettered by many of the pressures of modern life and full of idealism and enthusiasm. Remember you/us/students are working for a better world, don't let your selves be dragged into the violence that plays into the hands of the media and lawmakers. Use your intelligence, humor, spontaneity and wit to win the media
HelmetBlissta 1 year ago
As an American student in college I give my full support to the students protesting in London. Why should their college costs go up while the royalties fart around in bentleys & overpriced shit. & to those people who say theyre too violent or watever....you gotta make noise to be heard. I'm hoping this flame spreads across the Atlantic b/c it's ridiculous how much college costs in the US, more than peoples salaries. Only time will tell if American youth have it in them to stand up to the bs.
Dawn0564 1 year ago
Freaking awesome
British students: Never give up
Greets and respect from Denmark:-DDD
SuperAcab666 1 year ago
haha, reading some of the comments, you idiots make me laugh... "you can demonstate peacefully!!!!!" what a joke... I think the students have done the peacefull demonstaration at the begining and they were ignored... SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT... and some of the idiots comment that the students have disgraced the country
notabluff 1 year ago