I´m not impressed by your video, you have and can do better. So here are a few of my objections.
Firstly your video is a huge garble of several unconnected issues. It is like you are playing an association game with your viewers, which makes you seem confused. You should have split the video into:
a) Old bearded white men are the cause of all problems.
@JRBendixen You seemed to have missed the point of this video. I am saying that bigotry is the bigger problem than religion it's self. This effects both theists and Atheists, which is often masked behind weasel words that sound better than they actually are. I also never said that "Old bearded white men are the cause of all problems." I was quoting the Peach who said that, in effect, white male christian fundamentalists who have political power are more dangerous than radical Muslims.
@Nightmare060 Quote:"You seemed to have missed the point of this video. I am saying that bigotry is the bigger problem than religion it's self. ". Sure I missed the point, you where jumping around on your argument. Do not take it that bad though, my own videos sux.
Quote:" I also never said that "Old bearded white men are the cause of all problems". I agree, but what was the point of mentioning that? Try to connect your points a bit more, is what I´m trying say. Watch noelplumb for example
@JRBendixen The point was tying in to the notion that the bigots who have political power disguise this with weasel words and dishonest agendas. So the more raw the bigotry, the less power it actually has. Plus the whole video set up a good contrast to compare Tf00t's arguments too.
@Nightmare060 Ok and point taken. But I think peach is wrong though, which for me sort of make the argument null and void. While I admit that it depends on what level the scariness is measured at, be it personal, local, regional or global.
Do not get me wrong, old white men with bibles and political power are almost never a force for good, rather they mostly bring tears and violence. Nonetheless I would argue they are simply outclassed, by loads of other sorts of men.
Secondly you state some non-facts about the ground zero mosque.
Quote:"it was not a mosque to begin with". Simply not true, initially it was religious center with a mosque and in general every mosque is also considered to be a community centers by muslims. It´s the same thing for muslims.
Further they never included the christian or jewish prayer rooms(ie. chuch and temple), nor call it a community center until after the protests and media attention.
@JRBendixen It was already a religious centre before 9/11 since Muslims had already used the building an area for prayer space. Either way, what it is planned to contain is something for all the community which really is harmless. In fact it should help the local economy and make use of a building that isn't going to be used anyway.
@Nightmare060 Quote:"It was already a religious center before 9/11". I did not know that, though it changes nothing of my criticism. Park51was a building project with other goals than you stated. In short it was never meant to be a community center as you mentioned. At least not what I believe you and I think a community center should entail in any sense. I mean it should be for all.
To top it all they now state it is a muslim community center under their "press releases" page. Quite exclusive.
@Nightmare060 Quote:"Either way, what it is planned to contain is something for all the community which really is harmless.". Yes I think it is in itself harmless, though I also think that they have made quite a few enemies, mostly complete morons, which I think would be obvious, if only for the mobs in the street.
I made a video about the ground zero issue after looking into the whole debacle. To be short I just read what the park51 and cordaboinitiative websites stated at the time. If it means anything to you, Dlandoncole agrees with me on the subjects of the ground zero mosque I mention, after I pointed out that he also failed to mention the almost exact critical fact in his videos as you did..
I´m not impressed by your video, you have and can do better. So here are a few of my objections.
Firstly your video is a huge garble of several unconnected issues. It is like you are playing an association game with your viewers, which makes you seem confused. You should have split the video into:
a) Old bearded white men are the cause of all problems.
b) Thunderf00t is wrong and bigoted.
Continued..
JRBendixen 9 months ago
@JRBendixen You seemed to have missed the point of this video. I am saying that bigotry is the bigger problem than religion it's self. This effects both theists and Atheists, which is often masked behind weasel words that sound better than they actually are. I also never said that "Old bearded white men are the cause of all problems." I was quoting the Peach who said that, in effect, white male christian fundamentalists who have political power are more dangerous than radical Muslims.
Nightmare060 9 months ago
@Nightmare060 Quote:"You seemed to have missed the point of this video. I am saying that bigotry is the bigger problem than religion it's self. ". Sure I missed the point, you where jumping around on your argument. Do not take it that bad though, my own videos sux.
Quote:" I also never said that "Old bearded white men are the cause of all problems". I agree, but what was the point of mentioning that? Try to connect your points a bit more, is what I´m trying say. Watch noelplumb for example
JRBendixen 9 months ago
@JRBendixen The point was tying in to the notion that the bigots who have political power disguise this with weasel words and dishonest agendas. So the more raw the bigotry, the less power it actually has. Plus the whole video set up a good contrast to compare Tf00t's arguments too.
Nightmare060 9 months ago
@Nightmare060 Ok and point taken. But I think peach is wrong though, which for me sort of make the argument null and void. While I admit that it depends on what level the scariness is measured at, be it personal, local, regional or global.
Do not get me wrong, old white men with bibles and political power are almost never a force for good, rather they mostly bring tears and violence. Nonetheless I would argue they are simply outclassed, by loads of other sorts of men.
JRBendixen 9 months ago
@JRBendixen Continued..
Secondly you state some non-facts about the ground zero mosque.
Quote:"it was not a mosque to begin with". Simply not true, initially it was religious center with a mosque and in general every mosque is also considered to be a community centers by muslims. It´s the same thing for muslims.
Further they never included the christian or jewish prayer rooms(ie. chuch and temple), nor call it a community center until after the protests and media attention.
Continued.
JRBendixen 9 months ago
@JRBendixen It was already a religious centre before 9/11 since Muslims had already used the building an area for prayer space. Either way, what it is planned to contain is something for all the community which really is harmless. In fact it should help the local economy and make use of a building that isn't going to be used anyway.
Nightmare060 9 months ago
@Nightmare060 Quote:"It was already a religious center before 9/11". I did not know that, though it changes nothing of my criticism. Park51was a building project with other goals than you stated. In short it was never meant to be a community center as you mentioned. At least not what I believe you and I think a community center should entail in any sense. I mean it should be for all.
To top it all they now state it is a muslim community center under their "press releases" page. Quite exclusive.
JRBendixen 9 months ago
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@Nightmare060 Quote:"Either way, what it is planned to contain is something for all the community which really is harmless.". Yes I think it is in itself harmless, though I also think that they have made quite a few enemies, mostly complete morons, which I think would be obvious, if only for the mobs in the street.
JRBendixen 9 months ago
@JRBendixen Continued..
I made a video about the ground zero issue after looking into the whole debacle. To be short I just read what the park51 and cordaboinitiative websites stated at the time. If it means anything to you, Dlandoncole agrees with me on the subjects of the ground zero mosque I mention, after I pointed out that he also failed to mention the almost exact critical fact in his videos as you did..
Unsure if that was readable, I´m tired.
JRBendixen 9 months ago