Michael Tsarion - The Irish Origins of Civilization - 2/6

[bluebloodpinkhair]

@MiamiDolphinsClyde10 are you an expert in migration,genetics and history?

[MiamiDolphinsClyde10]

@bluebloodpinkhair u could say that..click on my nick if u wanna learn about unbiased history..

[neoseyes]

this is so great

[magnoliatango]

This man is a genius, he makes so much sense. All those questions about history that one wonders about....he answers.

[alaric63]

21makinmovies..... I wonder why you don't use this as a source of quality info, taking what you can use, instead of looking for nonexistent hatred of the color.........

let me guess....

black?

I get so tired of people hacking on Tsarion, not having one clue what he is about.

[21makinmoves]

I never heard of dna being tracked to people in ireland. Sounds like some narcissist talk. But worth a listen about egyptian history.

[paddymourinho]

@21makinmoves You never heard of it therefore it doesn't exist. 'Sounds like narcissist talk' lol

[21makinmoves]

@paddymourinho Nope my friend.. Its just that Egypt Mesopotamia and others are the craddle of civilization and for an irish dude to relate hot Egypt and cold Ireland way up north like this. It just sounds like hes digging Ireland and a long-shot theory. No way is Ireland the cradle of civilization. I find his talk about ancient Egypt interesting but he completely loss me when he puts Ireland as related.. Just break out the map and look where Egypt is and where Ireland is.

[mansamusa2012]

@21makinmoves New Agers lack commonsense my friend.

[LoveLawWill]

@mansamusa2012 And please don't confuse alternative historians with new agers as they aren't the same thing. I know the difference, but please don't fool yourself or lead people astray with this generality.

[21makinmoves]

@paddymourinho Its the same Logic that sais Egypt is not a part of Africa and Egyptians are not Africans. sounds white wash and suspect.

[paddymourinho]

@21makinmoves 1. You can't spell 'says'. 2. I don't need to 'break out the map' to know where Egypt and Ireland are. 3. There are many links between ancient Ireland and Egypt, notably Egyptian royality electing to be buried in Ireland. Also, a lot of the symbology present in Egypt and the middle east can be traced back to ancient Ireland, notably the 'harp of David'.

[21makinmoves]

@paddymourinho ending this conversation...

The oldest depictions of harps without a forepillar are from 500 BC, which was the sumerian harp of Perspolis/Persia in Iran and from 400 BC in Egypt. Other ancient names for harps include magadis and sambuca.

[TheJunglist1210]

@21makinmoves I'm actually surprised that no-one else picked up on this, but I think you'll find that the Sumerian dynasty itself was conquered around 2300 BC by the Akkadian empire, give or take. Sumerian harps HAD forepillars. I also copied+pasted your comment into Google and low and behold...directly ripped from wikipedia.The problem with wiki is that anyone can edit it, and frankly this piece of info is complete garbage.(TBC).

[TheJunglist1210]

@21makinmoves In Ireland as well as Egypt there are eerily similar depictions of harps that far predates "500 BC". Do your homework and remember...Wikipedia is far from a reliable source.

[ThePertinentesUno]

You is give a dignified answer Pertinent1 is give you that much ... to admit you is have no evidence is a sign of good character ... Pertinent1 is direct you to his extensive documantary and lecture video library so you is can become more enlightened no? ... and is also advise you to check out the Dark Moon High Tide number on his new sensational Songs of Freedom playlist facility because many ladies is tell Pertinent1 this is his theme song he is wish you God's Speed on the road to the truth!

[ThePertinentesUno]

why don't you go tell Tell Farrakhan and Professor Grif and Mugabee and Satan about this shit no one in their right mind wants to listen to your madness Pertinent1 is finished with you and your ideas he is leaving he is thank you for the meal ...

[ThePertinentesUno]

-- now all this information is finally out of the bag, (no thanks to the Feminist movement or the Education System on this planet anywhere Pertinent1 is note much less in Western Countries ...) so now you want to divert attention from such things, by claiming, ludicrously, to be what you're not; and claiming even to be who you are not; and let's face it, never were, hence ur grabastic expropriation of Druidic Irish history, as evidence by your insanely unfounded specualtion upon the matter ...

[ThePertinentesUno]

namely that they were white. Are you saying ThePertinent1 is black? Cup-cake listen to me: here's the thing right: I think because you Bantu have been slave-trading people for thousands of years, and selling them to Ancient Greece, and Minoa, and Rome, and the Muslims, after then, alongside killing and eating the Pygmies, and mutilating your own children - (pray do explain your tastes to the rest of humanity one day Pertinent1 is all ears...) - via FGM, you're having a racial crisis me thinks

[LePertinenteLagarto]

Yes a big Statue bigger than Nelson's Column! ... or the Eiffal Tower! ... it is should be painted green, and should have huge speakers at its base, blaring out Dark Moon High Tide by Afro Celtic Sound system on a permanent loop! And there should be a revolving restaurant as well on top of Mr Tsarions head at the position of the Crown Charka Mr Jeremyx2k1 how do you like that? ... do you mind? ... I mean as long as O.K with you no? You have any idea how long Pertinent1 has waited for this? ...

[jeremyx2k1]

Complete load of crap. This guy is one of the easiest to debunk I've ever seen. Do your homework people. Build a statue.. Lmmfao

[ThePertinentesUno]

We've waited a long time for this ...

[Mumbundu]

@ThePertinentesUno yu guys lov to be lied to. The druids he is talkin about, were all african people, there is no such a thing as ancient white or irish. An ancinet irish is correct cuz when yu talk about ancient irish yur not necessarily talkin about modern european. cuz look, whatever is ancient, is always African, when ancient yu talk about ancient greeks, yu talkin about a mixed race or African

[ThePertinentesUno]

@Mumbundu Point No.1. Pertinent1 is a singular individual; he is not a plurality, or a multiplicity; he is not Legion, you might say, as you most probably are, so "yu guys" is mean nothihng to him, and moreover, Pertinent1 hates to be lied to, which is precisely why he bothers to inform you that your theories are without any proof whatsoever. Please tell the public where you is get the notion that Druids were black; all available literature about the Picts and the Original Irish says othersise

[Mumbundu]

@ThePertinentesUno I dont hav evidence strong enough to prove to you. Listen: all this colour thing is new to the planet. The europeans are not originals in that land, they moved to europe from Asia. The african moved there first, just like in middle east, Middle east was an African country before invasion, you must now look for common sense to find the truth, cuz i hav no evidence.

[RecessionRecipes]

A man full of knowledge,they really should build a statue for him.

[ThePertinentesUno]

This is highly commendable. They should build a statue of this Tsarion fellow in Ireland you know? ...

[ThePertinentesUno]

If the High Priests of Druidism were know as the Aryans - (think Vedic Tradition here...) - and Ireland was the Saudi Arabia of the Druids, with Derry as Mecca, and Ogham was one of the alphabets in use in ancient Erin, and it's found to be written on various megliths, in the USA, for example, where the Hopi speak of the True White Brother, then you can pretty much take it as proved, beyond any shadow, that Druidism was one of the greatest enlightenment schools the world has ever seen ...

[gezayo]

continued from last comment ... seems off subject of this but it just came to mind and i started to wonder about how far the druids were spread across this planet were they in russia too? just making connections. interesting work.

[gezayo]

this guys name is Tsarion and in some places uses MTSAR which TSAR is connected with russian emperors and maxism. not saying he is don't care either. just interesting connections. he says his irish father was a maxist though never states his name. Tsarion is his mothers name apparently from her mothers name since his mothers fathers name was tara sigh.MTSAR's name is similar to Tsarina meaning empress of russia. Tsrarina Alexandria was said to be Rasputins lover a monk who brought down the TSAR,

[TheHeuristicIslander]

@gezayo star orion

[ThePertinentesUno]

We've waited a long time for this...

[wacman89]

Thumbs up if your Irish

[TheHeuristicIslander]

@wacman89 thumbs up your ass jerkwad

[TheMoonandSea]

People get upset when truths get uncovered. Since forensic DNA became invented, many "Native American" ancient burial sites in North America are turning out to be European. The Florida peat bog mummies were assumed to be Indian, DNA testing proves they are European , They're over 7,000 years old. Spear points of French, no Asian origin, over 19,000 years old, were found all over the East Coast of the US. Liberals and white haters scream racism when you point this out.

[JulianBaynes1]

@TheMoonandSea Yes, they are utter cretins.

[Mumbundu]

@JulianBaynes1 this guy is selling books to the irish people, thats how they make money, making yu feel gud about yoself.

[JulianBaynes1]

@Mumbundu What does that have to do with anything? I didn't say I was for or against Michael Tsarion. All I did was commend somebody's comment on this video.

[21makinmoves]

@TheMoonandSea Where are europeans from my friend? Answer this for me and the other 4 thumbs up!

[TheJunglist1210]

@21makinmoves The last depiction of a harp from Sumer was approximately 3000 BC. The harp that you are referring to is of the Achaemenid(Persian) Empire.As for early harps without fore-pillars they were (lol) Sumerian as well.2800 BC is a widely accepted date of the clay tablets on which these were depicted.And the funniest thing is the Sumerian harps without fore-pillars are actually earlier than the ones with.Copy+paste really can get you in alot of trouble, can't it?(TBC)

[TheJunglist1210]

@21makinmoves Typo "2800 BC is a widely accepted date of the clay tablets on which these were depicted" 3800 I meant lol.Just in case someone wants to copy and paste...

[ThePertinentesUno]

We've waited a long time for this... 

[nixter888]

The name Hibernia was taken from Greek geographical accounts. During his exploration of Europe c 320 BC, Pytheas of Massilia called the island Ἰέρνη. In his book Geographia c Ptolemy called the island Ἰουερνία. The Romans saw a connection between these historical names and the Latin word hibernus meaning wintry.the historian Tacitus, in his book Agricola c. 98 AD, uses the name Hibernia.

[nixter888]

Read Timeaus and Critias of Plato to see who was teaching the world! DRUIDS existed only since 200 b.c....Stop the distortion! Nefertity an Irish princess?..WHAT ELSE ARE WE'RE GONNA HEAR?...MONOTHEISM WAS INTRODUCED BY HERMES TRISMEGISTUS!..PUT IT IN YOUR MIND!..DRUITS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT!

[nixter888]

@nixter888 THE MILESIANS WERE GREEKS FROM MILYTOS,ASIA MINER!.THEY WERE IONIAN GREEKS....They came to Irland,AND THEY SETTLE THERE.

[Orwells1984]

@nixter888 Greeks and Egyptians age was aprox 3,000-10,000 years ago. Mankind has been on earth for well over 300,000 years. So what you are saying is that nothing existed before the Greek and Egyptian period? That is outrageous and besides that is factual wrong. Where did Plato get his ideas, he of course did not make them up himself. Plato and Alexander were the Apex of Greek culture. That leaves 298,000 years of Mankind history that what? Please explain...

[nixter888]

@Orwells1984 Did i say nothing existed before?...in Greece we have a continually presents of humans since 800000 b.c.....We are talking about the great civilizations of the Aegean before the year 9000 b.c,..about Athens ,Atlantis,and Egypt!..What is your point? The year 10000 b.c,Northern Europe was full of ice,..there was not evidence of civilization at that time! Humans habitate in caves....ANYTHING ELSE?

[Orwells1984]

@nixter888 Thats not true though. Structural evidence suggests that off the coast of Japan at least 10,000 BC existed a large city with a buildings made of stone. Plus a relative of Plato, Solon claims from a visit to Egypt in 590 BC that Greece is a descendant of a much older civilization that was destroyed by the sea thousands of years before. 800,000 years? Thats wrong too Man has only been on earth for 300,000 years Neanderthals have been 600,000 only species of proto-homosapian existed then

[nixter888]

@Orwells1984 IN THE CAVE OF PETRALONA GREECE,THE FIRST HUMAN WAS FOUND 800000 YEARS OLD!Do not try to falsify things!........As for the tin, ..The Mycenaeans were traveling all over the world,the Minoans too,..they were bringing back tin and whatever else they needed !..THEY EVEN BUILT THE STONEHENGE!...They brought civilization all over the world,and educate the barbarians!...YOU KNOW NOTHING!

[nixter888]

Do not fantasize things about your ancestors,..They were not older than the Greeks!...YOU SAID... The people of the mediteranean knew of the peoples in Brittan and Ireland and traded with them for thousands of years before Greek was even a word......NICE TRY!....GREEKS EXISTED SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME!,,,,THEY WERE ALWAYS IN GREECE,SOME PHONY EUROPEAN SO CALLED SCIENTISTS CAME UP WITH THE THEORY OF INDOEUROPEANS ,WHICH NEVER EXISTED...THESE CIVILIZATION BELONG TO THE PROTO-GREEKS!

[nixter888]

It was the Greeks who where resposible for both Western Civilisation and world Civilization! The Greeks where the super power of very Ancient Times!. Their Greek infrastructure that they created because Greece is where Humanity originated from as well.Greece Was The First Western Civilization and of Mankind to rose up and develope back in the late Stone Age and Early Bronze Age right after the last Ice Age period to creat for its self a Human Civilization of Mankind..

[nixter888]

AND AS ISSOCRATES SAYS .. This place ..GREECE,.. where we dwell, not by sending others away who lived in it, nor upon an occupation, or because it was deserted by residents,

nor we use it as establishment as a group composed of various tribes,

but instead our gender is so noble and true and in this place that gave birth to us from the down of time, continually we live in it without interruption because we are indigenous ... " ISOKRATOUS LOGOI C

[Orwells1984]

@nixter888 again you are skewing facts with fiction. The cave did find remains but were of Archanthropus europeaus petraloniensis a type of Homo Erectus. In fact these two skeletons found are more like Neanderthals than Modern Humans. Which does not prove anything because these types of Homo Erectus were found everywhere from The Alps to Africa to Siberia at in around the time of 800.000 to 600,000 years ago. The greeks built Stonhenge... Im done arguing with you. You are less than worthy.

[nixter888]

@Orwells1984 YOUR MOUTH IS FULL OF VICE!... Contact with the Mediterranean seems certain with the discovery of carvings, mainly of axes and a dagger being recognised on three of the sarsens of Stonehenge in 1953. The shape of the dagger it's the same to weapons found far away in southern Greece and today it is generally agreed that it is in the form of a Mycenae dagger. Archaeologists know that the knowledge flow was from Greece to Britain. Indeed Stonehenge was built by Mycenaeans.

[nixter888]

STOP YOUR DISTORTION!..IT DOES NOT TAKE YOU ANYWHERE!...GREAT IS MY KNOWLEDGE!..YOU CAN NEVER FOOL ME WITH YOUR FANTASIES AND YOUR LIES!..RELAX! ..The Boy with the Amber Necklace,they found in Stonehenge was from the Mediterranean!...According to the British Geological Survey the chemical tests on the teeth of the teenager suggest he grew up around the Mediterranean Sea,close to Greece!

[nixter888]

If you only knew what we know,about the history of the world!...Thanks to our genius ancient scholars!!...The anthropological findings in Trillia and Petralona, allowed Greece to be declared as the country of Anthropogenesis. Man branched out from the trunk of the Hominids, at the beginning of the Oligocene Epoch, 12 million years ago. .....Do not try to falsify things ,and DO NOT TALK TO ME WITH SUCH AN APPROPRIATE WAY!

[nixter888]

The ancient Greek culture was "home-grown" and unique, and its accomplishments were the result of this uniqueness. However, since ancient times, other cultures studied and copied ancient Greek thoughts and ideas, in an attempt to lift their own ethnic group culturally, spiritually and socially!..WE ACCEPT THAT,BUT WE DO NOT ACCEPT THE PLAGIARISM AND THE DISTORTION,SOME OF YOU TRY TO CREATE!..IT DOES NOT WORK THIS WAY!

[nixter888]

Greek civilization,Language and achievements were nourished in the Land of Greece,since the dawn of time,and was giving to the world many many times,during the millenniums of it's existence,and those achievements still run the world today!...STOP YOUR DISTORTION!

[mansamusa2012]

@nixter888 Tsarion believes that white blond haired Nordics are responsible for all world civilizations even your ancient Greeks civilization. What else do you expect from a New Ager? These people have no logic and all of their studies are rooted in this Blavatsky supreme Aryan race theory. Interestingly, I heard that she stated that some of these Aryans were almost black in color. Hitler and Tsarion are fans of her work and yet some how they missed this statement.

[nixter888]

@mansamusa2012 The truth is brighter than the Sun!

[LoveLawWill]

@mansamusa2012 If you listen to Tsarion, he is saying that the druids had nothing to do with race or skin color. They were truth seekers and keepers of moral truth and the tenants of natural law. They are seen throughout the world and with different nationalities cuz they are initiates of sacred knowledge. The Aryan supremecy that blavatsky and others speak of is not racial purity but purity of mind and consciousness. Race is a recent creation put in place to divide us. We are all one!

[bluebloodpinkhair]

@mansamusa2012 you didnt watch it did you,he says that Aryans were a cast not a race.

[Orwells1984]

@nixter888 You change the subject when you are proven wrong. And you attack with name calling. I'm done with you.

[nixter888]

@Orwells1984 YOU ARE CALLING ME NAMES!...EXPRESSIONS LIKE ...You are less than worthy....DON'T AGREE,WITH A LOGICAL PERSON!...I DID NOT CHANGE THE SUBJECT,..YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS LOST NOW!....I PUT YOU IN PLACE NICELY !....I EMPTY YOU!...YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ANYMORE!..THAT'S WHY YOU'RE DONE!...HAVE A NICE LIFE,AND REMEMBER,..THE TRUTH IS BRIGHTER THAN THE SUN ANS ALWAYS SHINES !.....

[Orwells1984]

@nixter888 The Greeks and Egyptians are descendents of a much older civ that was lost. The people of the mediteranean knew of the peoples in Brittan and Ireland and traded with them for thousands of years before Greek was even a word. In fact the tools used to make the monuments in Greece and Egypt were made with the Tin from the Isles because Tin is not found in the Mediteranean. Im afraid you have a bias towards Greece just as Tsarion has one towards Ireland. Take a step back please...

[nixter888]

@Orwells1984 Who told you that the Greeks are descended from an other civilization?....You really don't know NOTHING about Greece!... .You don't know about Golden Age that had ended at some vague time in the distant past, giving way to a Silver Age, a Bronze Age, then the race of heroes ,and demi- gods like Hercules, who approached the golden race...and then... Iron Age.....

[nixter888]

YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT Prometheus a Titan, one of the race of gods who had reigned in heaven through the Golden Age, but were toppled from power by Zeus and his Olympians .so called because they were said to live on Mount Olympus, in northern Greece,Prometheus CREATED THE FIRST HUMANS, has been associated ever since with heroic daring and originality in the cause of science. Today we use the word ‘Promethean’ for a scientist or scientific venture which seems especially intrepid in its ambition.

[nixter888]

Prometheus,son , Deucalion, built an ark to survive the coming Bronze Age-ending flood that Zeus was sending to punish mankind for its wickedness. Deucalion and his wife, Pyrrha , survived for 9 days of flooding before landing at Mt. Parnassus. as warned Deucalion built an ark to survive the coming Bronze Age-ending flood that Zeus was sending to punish mankind for its wickedness. Deucalion and his -wife, Pyrrha survived for 9 days of flooding before landing at Mt. Parnassus.

[nixter888]

, the titan and goddess of prophecy Themis cryptically told them to throw the bones of their mother behind them. They interpreted this as meaning "throw stones over their shoulders onto Mother Earth," and did so. The stones Deucalion threw became men and those Pyrrha threw became women.....

[nixter888]

Deucalion and Pyrrha settled in Thessaly where they produced offspring the old-fashioned way. Their two sons were Hellen and Amphictyon. Hellen sired Aeolus (founder of the Aeolians), Dorus (founder of the Dorians), and Xuthus. Xuthus sired Achaeus (founder of the Achaeans) .....THAT'S THE STORY OF THE GREEKS!...GREEKS DID NOT INVOLVED FROM ANY OTHER CIVILIZATION!...READ TIMEAUS AND CRITIAS TOY SEE WHO ARE THE GREEKS!

[nixter888]

In the first place you remember a single deluge only ...said the Egyptian priest to Solon the Greek statesman who visited Egypt the year 600 b.c., but there were many previous ones; in the next place, you do not know that there formerly dwelt in your land the fairest and noblest race of men which ever lived, and that you and your whole city are descended from a small seed or remnant of them which survived..Same people same civilization!..and that happened 12600 years ego!..DO NOT DISTORT THINGS!

[nixter888]

distortion

[nixter888]

There is not more ancient Gods than the Greek Gods!..You are dreaming man! These people you are showing are the descendants of the Greek army the time of Alexander the Great! Also the word VEDA derive from the Proto-Greek u̯eidos, cognate to Greek (ϝ)εἶδος "aspect", "form" . Not to be confused is the homonymous 1st and 3rd person singular perfect tense véda, cognate to Greek (ϝ)οἶδα (w)oida "I know". Root cognates are Greek ἰδέα...STOP THE DESTORTION!

[nixter888]

@nixter888 HORUS was adopted from the word Greek Ὥρος =Hōros.THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE STARS WAS GIVEN TO THE EGYPTIANS BY HERMES TRISMEGISTOS..Who was born in Greece,A Mycenaean Greek reference found on a Linear B clay tablet at Pylos to a deity or semi-deity called TI-RI-SE-RO-E, Trisheros (the "thrice or triple hero) and it's connected to the later epithet "thrice wise" "Trismegistos", applied to Hermes. On the same Tn 316 tablet as well as other Linear B tablets,

[nixter888]

Hermes was worshipped by the people of Pheneus in Arcadia GREECE, is said to have killed Argus, and for this reason to have fled to Egypt, and to have given the Egyptians their laws and alphabet: he it is whom the Egyptians call him THOTH!,So ,do not look in the irish history to find the TRUTH!....ΓΝΩΣΗ=ΚΝΟWLEDGE ,was given to the world by the Greeks!

[nixter888]

Mercury was the original Greek God Hermes,ALSO APOLLO,WAS VISITING the hyperboreans ..who were not in the northern Europe but out of this world!....beyond the Boreas" Reaching such exotic lands is never easy; Pindar cautioned:

neither by ship nor on foot would you find

the marvellous road to the assembly of the Hyperboreans!....They were in an other planet!..wake up!

[nixter888]

Arcadians were the ancient RESIDENTS of the central Peloponnisos.the name derives from Arkas son of Zeus, name of the founder and first ruler of Arcadia.Do not distort things!The druids took the name from the Greek noun δρύς (drus), "oak-tree,and the Greek suffix -ιδης.Δρύς=Drys = oak was the most sacred tree of Zeus!

[nixter888]

When the letters u and r changed position, from oak dru comes the latin dur-us to mean hard because the tree is a symbol of strength and hardness!The word returns in Greek and when someone is strongand standing up, we say that he is ντούρος ntouros-douros.The druids got their knowledge from the very ancient Greeks! Alexander Cornelius Polyhistor referred to the Druids as philosophers and called their doctrine of the immortality of the soul and reincarnation or metempsychosis of the Pythagoreans.

[thepixieful]

yes written language BUT the memory or oral tradition is an excellent way of learning. and quite good discipline of the shan-ah-chee.........in some ways superior to the writing.

[thepixieful]

the reincarnation belief noted is interesting.

[thepixieful]

nice to hear about ancestors. 

[ThePertinentesUno]

We've waited a long time for this...

[ThePertinentesUno]

Three. Of course. This is why ThePertinent1 is call himself Dogen Mitsubishi on Fupa Mountain Racer...

[plutoswrath]

: o ) K ) o :  mirror mirror on the water -reflect our truest face- do we belong on earth? or do we belong in outer space?

[rollerickus]

what is that red flash at 38:25 ?

[loagun]

PS this stuff is amazing (and yes i AM checking the sources as i listen a long, it's not hard LadyPortia!), and when he talks about historical amnesia(this video or another one) is so right. just by hearing this much i have already come to the conclusion the Giants were these Aryan race and they were good! not evil like the Bible says, and the little Devils in old/ancient paintings were Jesuits! omg it all makes perfect sense now! i so researching this now. thanks for the upload!!! :))

[loagun]

anyone that dispuits this information is UN-sane like is pointed out by Tsarion in many videos. everything is factual based, and if you don't believe that buy, or look up a free copy of his books online and check the facts yourself. by refuting it based on your own insecurities of having been led to believe false views is only causing suppression to yourself BY yourself. you are what is wrong with you. everything here makes perfect sense to anyone that isn't living in fear based mind control.

[ClinamenCloud]

damn that left eyebrow muscle is powerful :->

[LadyPortia777]

I have heard the rubbish at Newgrange