Papak Ahourmazdin was a Persian, speaking Persian language, Based on his own words, he was not a fan of Turks (from central Asia) nor moslim/Arabs. Moslem historians called him Babak Khorramdin (insulting, like Babak happyreligion) and it was several centuries later that central Asian Turk soldiers taking over their Arab war lords settled in "Atra-abadegan" (Azer-bayjan?!)(Babek Khorramdin?!) there is no Azari language, it's in fact Persian grammer with %75 turkic words, ...
babak khoramdin is iranian national hero, babak spoke pahlevi-azeri a middle persian language in the nine th century i hate stupid pan-turks w ho eevn dont know what the name BABAK khoramdin means
Babek (Hasan) was a native Azeri, he spoke on anicient azeri language. Iran is Azerbaijan province. Persia (Fars) is not Iran. We are anicent azeri nation which was mixed with caucasian albans and then partly with turk. our language was turk language. By the way. Shakh Ismail, Shakh Nadir, Aga Mohammed Gaadjar were not persians. they were azeri turks. Babak was not turk, but he was AZERI. Persian people, you were ruled the last centures by azeri-turk shakhs. eat your shirts )))))
You persian imbeciles seem to forget that nation-states with one language are a very recent phenomenon that occurred as a result of the centralization of power which was made possibly due to the technological achievements of the industrial revolution. No sizable ''nation'' consisted of ONE ethnic group and the persian empire is no exception. That area of Iran was never inhabited by ethnic fars, so stop trying to claim it.
why do u guys love to steal other countries cultures? is it because u guys lack one?
Babak Khorramdin is one of ancient Persia’s greatest icons. Babak fought the Arabian Abbassid Caliphate in Baghdad (750-1258AD) to restore the independence of Persia which had been lost after the Arab victories over the Sassanian Empire at the Battles of Qadissiya (637AD) and Nehavand (651AD).
Again, a quick study of historical archives contradicts pan-Turanian claims. First, Babak’s name is derived from that of the first Sassanian monarch Ardashir-e-Babak-an, who lived hundreds of years before Khorramdin. The name “Babak” is derived from the name of the father of the first monarch of the Sassanian Empire (224-651 AD), Ardashir I Babak-an (180-239 AD).
the Turkish language did not arrive in Azerbaijan and Arran until three centuries later at the earliest. The inhabitants of historical Azerbaijan (in Iran) and Arran spoke Iranian languages at the time. Babak and his followers never spoke a word of Turkish. Romano-Byzantine sources are clear in identifying the Babak Khorramdin rebellion as a Persian movement aimed at re-establishing Persia’s independence from Arab Caliphate rule and reviving her Zoroastrian past.
Oxford Medieval historian, Professor Mark Whittow has noted that:
Azerbaijan was the scene of frequent anti-caliphal and anti-Arab revolts during the 8th and 9th centuries, and Byzantine sources talk of Persian warriors seeking refuge in the 830s from the caliph’s armies by taking service under the Byzantine emperor Theophilos.Azerbaijan had a Persian population and was a traditional centre of the Zoroastrian religion.
The Khurramites were a…Persian sect, influenced by Shiite doctrines, but with their roots in a pre-Islamic Persian religious movement (p.215)”.
[Whittow, Mark, The Making of Byzantium: 600-1025, Berkley: University of California Press]
There are simply no historical references to Babak being Turkish, or fighting for a “Turkish homeland”. As noted previously, Pan-Turanian activists simply reject any history or factual information that contradicts their views.
@ninetoyadome actually , ancient albania had it's own population of turks ( up to 4 tribes out of 25 ) of Turkick speaking type .
Which means that it is possible that he speaked Turkick , as he fought on a land called Azerbaijan , alongsidde with Azeri Javanshir , who has turkik origins .
I know it is debatable , whether he is Azeri or not , but he fought for our county's independance on OUR land , the land of Albania and Atropatene .
After Turks came 3 ct later , we became much stronger
Funny how all the greatest "Persians" were from Azerbaijan :) Babek, Nizami, Javanshir, Nasimi, Shah Ismail, Shah Abbas, the Safavid dynasty, the Shirvanshahs, etc
Atropatene literally translates into its modern name, Azerbaijan. Atropatene meant land of fire, just like today. Modern Azeris speak Persian/Turkic language, but they originate from Caucasiod/Aryan race. Babek was an ethnic Azeri. He was born in Azerbaijan territory of Persia. His goal was to liberate Azeris and Persians from Arab empire.
Azerbaijan have never been the territory of persia and they don't speak persian. Azeri population that live in acupated by iran teritory must speak 2 languages because government of iran never let them to speak or study their Mothertang which is Turkish.
@AzadReport : Babak in his own diary said he was Persian! The Arabs he fought with wrote he was Persian! Babak fought for Iran. Weird comment you made.
who ar you to tell us who we ar? you got idd 30 mil azeris in your country...
who speak verry wel azeri, and love azerbaijan, and you know that to, azeris in iran hates goverment of persia,, idd chek your historie, don't forget you ar no one to speak about azerbaijan history, peopol like you have nothing to say but only jaloers on somones propety
Papak Ahourmazdin was a Persian, speaking Persian language, Based on his own words, he was not a fan of Turks (from central Asia) nor moslim/Arabs. Moslem historians called him Babak Khorramdin (insulting, like Babak happyreligion) and it was several centuries later that central Asian Turk soldiers taking over their Arab war lords settled in "Atra-abadegan" (Azer-bayjan?!)(Babek Khorramdin?!) there is no Azari language, it's in fact Persian grammer with %75 turkic words, ...
A007JAMES 2 weeks ago
Good job azeries, you have hungarian (savar magyar) blood!
Opos the sabir had similar heroism against the Calpihate. in 738.
HungarianHistory2 3 weeks ago
So, azeris against islam ?
Skyguyfrom501legion 1 month ago
babak khoramdin is iranian national hero, babak spoke pahlevi-azeri a middle persian language in the nine th century i hate stupid pan-turks w ho eevn dont know what the name BABAK khoramdin means
Fravahar 6 months ago
AZERI ALWAYS FUCKED PERSIAN ASS,,WE COMING FOR SOUTH AZERBAIJAn,.wait us
Azerbaijanian768 7 months ago
Babek (Hasan) was a native Azeri, he spoke on anicient azeri language. Iran is Azerbaijan province. Persia (Fars) is not Iran. We are anicent azeri nation which was mixed with caucasian albans and then partly with turk. our language was turk language. By the way. Shakh Ismail, Shakh Nadir, Aga Mohammed Gaadjar were not persians. they were azeri turks. Babak was not turk, but he was AZERI. Persian people, you were ruled the last centures by azeri-turk shakhs. eat your shirts )))))
ahajiyev1 9 months ago 2
Отличный клип!
makar801 9 months ago
You persian imbeciles seem to forget that nation-states with one language are a very recent phenomenon that occurred as a result of the centralization of power which was made possibly due to the technological achievements of the industrial revolution. No sizable ''nation'' consisted of ONE ethnic group and the persian empire is no exception. That area of Iran was never inhabited by ethnic fars, so stop trying to claim it.
KaWeH17 9 months ago 2
GREat azERI HERO
Azerbaijanian768 9 months ago
We honor Babek khoramdin , Persians are not there because we are still struggling with Arab lovers . but we will be free very soon
persia1324 1 year ago
funny how only azeris go to babek castle to honor him, no persians there :)
NationZone 1 year ago
Arabs can't say "Google",they say "Joojle" because they don't have a "G" in their language.
They Also don't have a "P" in their language.they can't say "Pizza",they say"Bizza".
The Name AzerBaiJan was sued by Arabs.Thus it could have been AzerPaiGan.
The Name "Azer" is Persian,thus "Baijan" must have been Persian too.
AntiGravityLazer 1 year ago
why do u guys love to steal other countries cultures? is it because u guys lack one?
Babak Khorramdin is one of ancient Persia’s greatest icons. Babak fought the Arabian Abbassid Caliphate in Baghdad (750-1258AD) to restore the independence of Persia which had been lost after the Arab victories over the Sassanian Empire at the Battles of Qadissiya (637AD) and Nehavand (651AD).
ninetoyadome 1 year ago 4
Again, a quick study of historical archives contradicts pan-Turanian claims. First, Babak’s name is derived from that of the first Sassanian monarch Ardashir-e-Babak-an, who lived hundreds of years before Khorramdin. The name “Babak” is derived from the name of the father of the first monarch of the Sassanian Empire (224-651 AD), Ardashir I Babak-an (180-239 AD).
ninetoyadome 1 year ago
the Turkish language did not arrive in Azerbaijan and Arran until three centuries later at the earliest. The inhabitants of historical Azerbaijan (in Iran) and Arran spoke Iranian languages at the time. Babak and his followers never spoke a word of Turkish. Romano-Byzantine sources are clear in identifying the Babak Khorramdin rebellion as a Persian movement aimed at re-establishing Persia’s independence from Arab Caliphate rule and reviving her Zoroastrian past.
ninetoyadome 1 year ago 5
Oxford Medieval historian, Professor Mark Whittow has noted that:
Azerbaijan was the scene of frequent anti-caliphal and anti-Arab revolts during the 8th and 9th centuries, and Byzantine sources talk of Persian warriors seeking refuge in the 830s from the caliph’s armies by taking service under the Byzantine emperor Theophilos.Azerbaijan had a Persian population and was a traditional centre of the Zoroastrian religion.
ninetoyadome 1 year ago
The Khurramites were a…Persian sect, influenced by Shiite doctrines, but with their roots in a pre-Islamic Persian religious movement (p.215)”.
[Whittow, Mark, The Making of Byzantium: 600-1025, Berkley: University of California Press]
There are simply no historical references to Babak being Turkish, or fighting for a “Turkish homeland”. As noted previously, Pan-Turanian activists simply reject any history or factual information that contradicts their views.
get your own culture, stop stealing
ninetoyadome 1 year ago
@ninetoyadome actually , ancient albania had it's own population of turks ( up to 4 tribes out of 25 ) of Turkick speaking type .
Which means that it is possible that he speaked Turkick , as he fought on a land called Azerbaijan , alongsidde with Azeri Javanshir , who has turkik origins .
I know it is debatable , whether he is Azeri or not , but he fought for our county's independance on OUR land , the land of Albania and Atropatene .
After Turks came 3 ct later , we became much stronger
TheChelseaFEVER 5 months ago
Today Azeri majority in North of Iran equals to 30 mln Azeris.
Safavids official language was Azeri.
NationZone 1 year ago
Funny how all the greatest "Persians" were from Azerbaijan :) Babek, Nizami, Javanshir, Nasimi, Shah Ismail, Shah Abbas, the Safavid dynasty, the Shirvanshahs, etc
NationZone 1 year ago
Atropatene literally translates into its modern name, Azerbaijan. Atropatene meant land of fire, just like today. Modern Azeris speak Persian/Turkic language, but they originate from Caucasiod/Aryan race. Babek was an ethnic Azeri. He was born in Azerbaijan territory of Persia. His goal was to liberate Azeris and Persians from Arab empire.
AzadReport 1 year ago 2
@AzadReport
Azerbaijan have never been the territory of persia and they don't speak persian. Azeri population that live in acupated by iran teritory must speak 2 languages because government of iran never let them to speak or study their Mothertang which is Turkish.
kamala807 1 year ago
@AzadReport : Babak in his own diary said he was Persian! The Arabs he fought with wrote he was Persian! Babak fought for Iran. Weird comment you made.
MrPanterahead1 10 months ago
babek was persian NOT TURKIC
you azeris are confused
Atropatenes were Iranian
Azeris of the republic are Turkic, claiming historical integrity of the Persians
this is pathetic and desperate
ZeeGooner 1 year ago
@ZeeGooner no you are pathetic and desperate. check your history
blackjacktrippin 1 year ago
@ZeeGooner
who ar you to tell us who we ar? you got idd 30 mil azeris in your country...
who speak verry wel azeri, and love azerbaijan, and you know that to, azeris in iran hates goverment of persia,, idd chek your historie, don't forget you ar no one to speak about azerbaijan history, peopol like you have nothing to say but only jaloers on somones propety
Ubiyu 1 year ago