@LostBoyRebel I took it as he was aiming at Chingachgook based on Hawkeyes statement "In case your aim is better than your judgement", implying that he might be a good shot but sure as hell made a bad choice in marching his troops in the manner he was into an ambush.
well in any case british weaponry was more deadly then the natives, these were trained soldiers against natives... they use sticks, stones and knifes or a tomahawk which just doesn't penetrate the body as much as a bayonet... the bayonet was way more deadly but against a counter attack it's no use if you can't hold the line
@osirvio It is true, scalping occured first in the European camps when they began to offer money for indian scalps. Than the indians began to scalp in an act of revenge for the scalping from the Euro's.
Such an amazing scene. Just read up on 'Pontiac's Rebellion' and you can see how a scene like this was played out many times against redcoats vs the natives of north america. The Battle of Bushy Run, was one of the only clear examples of a redcoat force overcoming a native ambush in the dead of the woods(where the native warriors were in thier element). While there may have been more instances of redcoat victories over the natives, they are not well documented.
@hannibalcaesar3 Yes but that ambush was really planned and orchestrated by the French rather than the Indians. Many of France's Indian allies were present at the battle however.
Wait to fire at point blank when the red coats reload and thin it out to the point where their bayonet formations are useless and reduced to man on man where my boys are best
the british soldiers in reality would have had there bayonets fixed on their muskets and they would have been harder to defeat than this scene portrays hollywood always makes other countrys armed forces seem retarded, the bayonet in trained hands is a deadly weapon.
@TheDarkwoodster Even so they wouldn't have had a snowball chance in hell of making it out of that alive. You just can't beat or counter guerilla warfare in the middle of the forest on the native's turf.
@TOCR815 You mean like the rangers or kentucky riflemen or the light riflemen that Washington would reluctantly employ or that the Crown would employ about 20 years after this conflict? The principle reason for this being a slaughter is terrain and not much else. The rest of it is Hollywood fantasy....I mean really? A raiding party of 20 or 25 took out an entire infantry company of the line? Real world...not likely, but here it makes Uncas and company look really bad-ass.
@TheDarkwoodster You forget history, The british were trained men, they fought one way and only one way, as one, there was no I will fight this way and go that way, They fought in a line, organized, and together. Look at history, Bunker Hill for example, the Americans shot behind rocks and trees while the British walked in a straight line and towards the enemy. So this was not hollywood making the british look stupid, infact they made them look historically accurate.
@TheDarkwoodster I agree...or patrols/pickets deployed to protect the flanks of an entire company on the march. This makes them look completely unprofessional...which they were not in the course of actual history but, it does make the heroes of this story look REALLY good when they arrive and clean up Magua's confederates.
00:43-00:45 He went a LITTLE to low...
EveofBattle 2 days ago
1080p way to go
yea, they got owned pretty badly
to much routine to go true when starting a battle...
ikkenienwel 1 week ago
Was Duncan trying to aim for Chingachgook or the Huron when he picked up the gun before Hawkeye put it down?
LostBoyRebel 2 weeks ago
@LostBoyRebel I took it as he was aiming at Chingachgook based on Hawkeyes statement "In case your aim is better than your judgement", implying that he might be a good shot but sure as hell made a bad choice in marching his troops in the manner he was into an ambush.
deanernet 1 week ago
@LostBoyRebel he was aiming for Chingachgook
Grant123CC 5 days ago
well in any case british weaponry was more deadly then the natives, these were trained soldiers against natives... they use sticks, stones and knifes or a tomahawk which just doesn't penetrate the body as much as a bayonet... the bayonet was way more deadly but against a counter attack it's no use if you can't hold the line
spermwaste 2 weeks ago
atleast duncan is there to stand his ground an save british honor! the british are portyared as spineless weakilings in this movie, shame!
obiwanfx 4 weeks ago
"Incase your aims any better than your judgment" HAHA burrnnn
TheVenturino123 4 weeks ago
Is that Chief O-brien from Star Trek at the head of the column at the start?
Snowman20 1 month ago
I want that blue thing
LostBoyRebel 1 month ago
How come they all fired at once when in formation? wouldn't they normally have one line fire and then the next while the other reloads???
ugamea123 1 month ago
@ugamea123 Depends on the formation of the line, this line used a firing technique, I believe it is called rank firing.
dconrad24 2 weeks ago
Is it true that the Indians actually learned the habit of scalping from Europeans? I've read it somewhere but I'm no sure was it true.
osirvio 1 month ago
@osirvio It is true, scalping occured first in the European camps when they began to offer money for indian scalps. Than the indians began to scalp in an act of revenge for the scalping from the Euro's.
dconrad24 2 weeks ago
Similar scene in The Patriot (Mel Gibson)
betenivanua 2 months ago
Such an amazing scene. Just read up on 'Pontiac's Rebellion' and you can see how a scene like this was played out many times against redcoats vs the natives of north america. The Battle of Bushy Run, was one of the only clear examples of a redcoat force overcoming a native ambush in the dead of the woods(where the native warriors were in thier element). While there may have been more instances of redcoat victories over the natives, they are not well documented.
Salvus967 2 months ago
@Salvus967
Look at the Braddock expedition in 1755. Absolute slaughter. 30 Indians killed to the 500 British.
hannibalcaesar3 2 months ago
@hannibalcaesar3 Yes but that ambush was really planned and orchestrated by the French rather than the Indians. Many of France's Indian allies were present at the battle however.
Salvus967 2 months ago
betral OVERKILL 5000points nice kill
imawsome206 2 months ago
2:12
CommonwealthPatriot 3 months ago
Wait to fire at point blank when the red coats reload and thin it out to the point where their bayonet formations are useless and reduced to man on man where my boys are best
lion3p0 3 months ago
the british soldiers in reality would have had there bayonets fixed on their muskets and they would have been harder to defeat than this scene portrays hollywood always makes other countrys armed forces seem retarded, the bayonet in trained hands is a deadly weapon.
TheDarkwoodster 3 months ago 7
@TheDarkwoodster That would apply when there is an order for a bayonet charge. Fixed bayonets lessens the accuracy of the rifle.
betenivanua 2 months ago
@TheDarkwoodster Even so they wouldn't have had a snowball chance in hell of making it out of that alive. You just can't beat or counter guerilla warfare in the middle of the forest on the native's turf.
TOCR815 2 months ago 10
@TOCR815 As I recall, native americans were known for being masters in hand to hand combat.
Wolflord13 1 month ago
@TOCR815 You mean like the rangers or kentucky riflemen or the light riflemen that Washington would reluctantly employ or that the Crown would employ about 20 years after this conflict? The principle reason for this being a slaughter is terrain and not much else. The rest of it is Hollywood fantasy....I mean really? A raiding party of 20 or 25 took out an entire infantry company of the line? Real world...not likely, but here it makes Uncas and company look really bad-ass.
Rhine40 1 week ago
@TheDarkwoodster you are really dumb, there were no fixed bayonets in that times
predpis92 1 month ago
@TheDarkwoodster So is a muhfucking indian with a tomahawk
Elsnipecabre 1 month ago
@TheDarkwoodster You forget history, The british were trained men, they fought one way and only one way, as one, there was no I will fight this way and go that way, They fought in a line, organized, and together. Look at history, Bunker Hill for example, the Americans shot behind rocks and trees while the British walked in a straight line and towards the enemy. So this was not hollywood making the british look stupid, infact they made them look historically accurate.
dconrad24 2 weeks ago
@TheDarkwoodster I agree...or patrols/pickets deployed to protect the flanks of an entire company on the march. This makes them look completely unprofessional...which they were not in the course of actual history but, it does make the heroes of this story look REALLY good when they arrive and clean up Magua's confederates.
Rhine40 1 week ago
Thumbs up if this is a bad ass battle scene, and Daniel day lewis hits so hard he can bend a tomahawk blade! 2:30
pleal1 3 months ago in playlist romance
TOMAHAWK
Aaronduhmoron 4 months ago
Chingachgook has the coolest weapon of all time.
Boogung 4 months ago
Many thanks for loading this scene. Wes Studi is great in this film as was the entire cast.
KYKIN89 4 months ago