I'm on a journey trying to learn a bit of jazz organ, by myself. No book, video or teacher. What I do though is that I listen to The Masters (e.g. Jimmy Smith, Richard 'Groove' Holmes, Jimmy McGriff) and try to pick something up.
You are right about Bag's Groove. I just listened to this take, and sure, there it was, albeit with a bit of another dialect :-) But I didn't knew I did lift parts of it! Funny how we can get impulses and inspiration without being conscious of the source.
@Jyazz21 Sorry, didnt realise you were only using bottem 3 drawbars. What's with the sound of the bass? Nord's dont usually give that much of a treble sound out of the bottom 3
I'm using the split function for the lower manual. The lower manual, from the key C3 and down to C1, is controlled by two bass drawbars (like the two bass pedal drawbars you'll find on a real B-3 for controlling the foot pedals).
This sounds a bit like something Barbara Dennerlein would do.
Considering her skill level, take this as a very high complement.
I'm still just past playing "Mary had a little lamb, and Happy Birthday" compared to you but I am learning from watching your playing and really enjoy listening to you. Thanks for your inspiration !
You are good and way past Mary and her lamb. Time for some new uploads from you? Drop me a line when you've done that :-)
Dennerlein is one of the very best, and I would be happy just by sitting in the audience listening to her beautiful mastery of the organ. One of my favourite YouTube clips is her song 'Jimmys Walk'. It's a duo just with her and her drummer Messina. Really great playing from both of them.
Good to hear that you like the left hand walking bass. I did try to put extra effort regarding the left hand bass line for this song. It is also a piece dedicated to a bassist, Mr Paul Chambers.
nice blues scale licks, use of 9 and flat 9, and imposing dorian over natural minor. try to be more rhythmic, stay off the root, and get on that G7b9 (C harmonic minor). overall it was pretty good dude... keep at it.
You will have great fun as a bass player with this song. It's a minor blues that gives you a lot of freedom when improvising, and the bass part is really crucial to get the drive going in the song when you're backing your band mates.
Wow! What a great performance! I am going to play this song at my school talent show on my Hammond chop, and your video really helps, especially to learn the bass line.
You sound great and you do a fantastic job of promoting yourself. I hope that you are playing at a restaurant or bar as often as possible. Never play for free! You've worked hard at this.
I have one suggestion for you and you can take it or leave it. Use your finger tips rather than your knuckles when you do the lower manual "thumps". You'll be in a better position to return to the upper manual especially during fast tunes. Try to avoid any kind of wasted motion.
About the 'thumps'. I know that the normal way is with the fingertips, e.g. like the master himself J.O.S.
I have felt though that I don't get them as, what should I call it, 'rhythmically distinctive' with the fingertips, like when I do them on the upper manual in 'High Heel Sneakers'.
But, I will follow your advice and start doing them with the fingertips again :-)
Rounder you are very talented. You do very interesting bass lines. Do you have a book/instructional CD or charts for the tunes that you have on You Tube?
I have no other instructional material, sorry, for my uploaded songs here on YouTube.
Except for the guide I wrote for learning how to play Green Onions.
I hope, though, that my overhead camcorder perspective will make it easier to see my fingerings. I have also all details about settings under the 'more info' field.
If you get stuck you can write me the exact timestamp (e.g. 1m29s) and I will try to explain what I'm playing at that moment.
I start that first solo chorus with the D note and then the A against the Cmin chord. I like to cling on to ninths and sixths for some unknown reason :-) I do that a number of times (e.g. 1.33, 1.47, 2.14 and a long A note at 2.55). So the A at 1.08 was deliberate. I flub (as always) at another timestamp though, but the blunder is not too big so it's nothing to write home about, if you don't press me about it :-)
Keep swinging sheets of sound at breakneck speed :-)
It took me some time to figure out how I wanted to play this song.
First I wanted to have long walking bass lines that did not repeat themselves every other bar, and then I needed to find out what I could do with the melody and solos choruses. All this took a while to settle.
The Coltrane breakneck speed, sheets of sound approach was of course out of question as I am a mere human being.
By the way, that was a fast comment! I didn't even knew that the video already was processed and ready to be watched. Usually it takes longer I believe.
I love the grace-notes!
G8tr1522 3 months ago
Hi G8tr1522
Good to hear you like them!
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 3 months ago
Hey Rounder,
I know I've commented on this video before, but I just have to say that lick around 1:20 is tasty!
DX7Alex 8 months ago
Hi Alex
Thanks!
I think I only have played that lick once and just in this song. Maybe it's about time to reuse that lick :-)
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 8 months ago
@rounder2u I think it's time! :-)
DX7Alex 8 months ago
Very swinging. Who'd you study with?
knotty75 10 months ago
Hi knotty
Thanks!
I'm on a journey trying to learn a bit of jazz organ, by myself. No book, video or teacher. What I do though is that I listen to The Masters (e.g. Jimmy Smith, Richard 'Groove' Holmes, Jimmy McGriff) and try to pick something up.
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 10 months ago
I like it a lot. The Tempo is not breakneck,and its playful with the riff, and quoting Bags Groove
valvetrom 11 months ago
Thanks valvetrom!
You are right about Bag's Groove. I just listened to this take, and sure, there it was, albeit with a bit of another dialect :-) But I didn't knew I did lift parts of it! Funny how we can get impulses and inspiration without being conscious of the source.
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 11 months ago
hey that's pretty cool how the bass is just like the melody in parts. the right hand is also nice. including the slides.
trogular 1 year ago
Thanks trogular!
I hadn't thought about the bassline following the right hand melody, but you are right. It does a few times.
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 1 year ago
Should consider learning some modes. You dont need so much pentatonic work there
Drop some of the upper drawbars for your bass lines too
Jyazz21 1 year ago
@Jyazz21 Sorry, didnt realise you were only using bottem 3 drawbars. What's with the sound of the bass? Nord's dont usually give that much of a treble sound out of the bottom 3
Jyazz21 1 year ago
Hi Jyazz
I'm using the split function for the lower manual. The lower manual, from the key C3 and down to C1, is controlled by two bass drawbars (like the two bass pedal drawbars you'll find on a real B-3 for controlling the foot pedals).
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 1 year ago
Hi Jyazz
Oh, yes, this is a modal song for sure, and here am I playing it mostly pentatonic. But now and then I believe I throw in a 6 or 9 :-)
So, what do we got here then? No modal approach, no Coltrane 'sheets of sound' style, no breakneck speed...
What's left in my take is a slower tempo pentatonic approach with a bit, hopefully :-) emphasis of the bass line.
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 1 year ago
Hi Rounder(2u)
This sounds a bit like something Barbara Dennerlein would do.
Considering her skill level, take this as a very high complement.
I'm still just past playing "Mary had a little lamb, and Happy Birthday" compared to you but I am learning from watching your playing and really enjoy listening to you. Thanks for your inspiration !
hagarus 1 year ago
Thanks hagarus!
You are good and way past Mary and her lamb. Time for some new uploads from you? Drop me a line when you've done that :-)
Dennerlein is one of the very best, and I would be happy just by sitting in the audience listening to her beautiful mastery of the organ. One of my favourite YouTube clips is her song 'Jimmys Walk'. It's a duo just with her and her drummer Messina. Really great playing from both of them.
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 1 year ago
awesome dude! like your nice lefthand-walking bass. also very nice b-3 sound. respect
Drumcorpse1993 1 year ago
Thanks Drumcorpse!
Good to hear that you like the left hand walking bass. I did try to put extra effort regarding the left hand bass line for this song. It is also a piece dedicated to a bassist, Mr Paul Chambers.
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 1 year ago
nice blues scale licks, use of 9 and flat 9, and imposing dorian over natural minor. try to be more rhythmic, stay off the root, and get on that G7b9 (C harmonic minor). overall it was pretty good dude... keep at it.
MrXasdfghjklx 1 year ago
Thanks MrX!
And thanks for the analysis!
Here's my thinking behind my take.
First and foremost it's about the bass. I wanted to play non-repeating lines of length. Not a bass line that repeats itself every bar.
On top I played what I felt sounded OK. I didn't thought much about theory, except for a few places, e.g. when I play 5/4 against 4/4.
And as I'm a mere human being, playing Coltrane sheets of sounds-style and breakneck speed was totally out of question! :-)
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 1 year ago
great sound! it´s always a pleasure to hear de hammond b3..
1979Ort 1 year ago
Thanks Ort!
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 1 year ago
I'll learn that one for sure...
I'll ask my band-mates tomorrow if we yould try this one...
or I'll just ask my guitar-guy^^
ZeMovinPixxle 1 year ago
Hi Pixxle
You will have great fun as a bass player with this song. It's a minor blues that gives you a lot of freedom when improvising, and the bass part is really crucial to get the drive going in the song when you're backing your band mates.
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 1 year ago
Wow! What a great performance! I am going to play this song at my school talent show on my Hammond chop, and your video really helps, especially to learn the bass line.
DX7Alex 1 year ago
Hi Alex
Thanks!
Good to hear that this video will be of help for you :-)
And good luck at the talent show!
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 1 year ago
Good to hear heru. Thanks!
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 1 year ago
Outstanding job. It must require some serious coordination skills... well, this being said by a non-keyboard player :)
HarshadBass 1 year ago
Hi HarshadBass
Thanks!
What took extra time for this song was that I wanted to play walking bass line patterns of length.
The left/right hand independence/coordination you're mentioning is an ever ongoing analyzing and practicing issue. At least for me :-)
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 1 year ago
great
gilus55 1 year ago
Thanks gilus!
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 1 year ago
You sound great and you do a fantastic job of promoting yourself. I hope that you are playing at a restaurant or bar as often as possible. Never play for free! You've worked hard at this.
I have one suggestion for you and you can take it or leave it. Use your finger tips rather than your knuckles when you do the lower manual "thumps". You'll be in a better position to return to the upper manual especially during fast tunes. Try to avoid any kind of wasted motion.
55vida 2 years ago
Hi 55vida
Thanks!
About the 'thumps'. I know that the normal way is with the fingertips, e.g. like the master himself J.O.S.
I have felt though that I don't get them as, what should I call it, 'rhythmically distinctive' with the fingertips, like when I do them on the upper manual in 'High Heel Sneakers'.
But, I will follow your advice and start doing them with the fingertips again :-)
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 2 years ago
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55vida 2 years ago
Thanks for the reply Rounder. You sound great. I'm looking forward to your next video.
55vida 2 years ago
Rounder you are very talented. You do very interesting bass lines. Do you have a book/instructional CD or charts for the tunes that you have on You Tube?
Thanks for all your work.
bigsaxman5000 2 years ago
Hi bigsaxman
Thanks!
I have no other instructional material, sorry, for my uploaded songs here on YouTube.
Except for the guide I wrote for learning how to play Green Onions.
I hope, though, that my overhead camcorder perspective will make it easier to see my fingerings. I have also all details about settings under the 'more info' field.
If you get stuck you can write me the exact timestamp (e.g. 1m29s) and I will try to explain what I'm playing at that moment.
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 2 years ago
Mr Paul Chambers would be proud. Excellent performance Rounder. Album worthy.
ScreechOwlStudioscom 2 years ago
Hi ScreechOwl
Thanks!
Maybe Paul Chambers would smile if he knew that people still, 50 years later, are playing the song Coltrane named after him.
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 2 years ago
This is swinging tune!
I've been waiting forever for a new vid. :D 5stars
cky12qxz 2 years ago
Hi cky12qxz
Thanks!
I don't think it will take thaaaat long before I wipe the dust off my camcorder the next time.
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 2 years ago
Thanks gnasher!
I start that first solo chorus with the D note and then the A against the Cmin chord. I like to cling on to ninths and sixths for some unknown reason :-) I do that a number of times (e.g. 1.33, 1.47, 2.14 and a long A note at 2.55). So the A at 1.08 was deliberate. I flub (as always) at another timestamp though, but the blunder is not too big so it's nothing to write home about, if you don't press me about it :-)
Keep swinging sheets of sound at breakneck speed :-)
Rounder
rounder2u 2 years ago
The bass line is pretty cool, and the way you grooved along it was quite a treat. Thank you for sharing.
lmm85 2 years ago
Thanks lmm85!
It took me some time to figure out how I wanted to play this song.
First I wanted to have long walking bass lines that did not repeat themselves every other bar, and then I needed to find out what I could do with the melody and solos choruses. All this took a while to settle.
The Coltrane breakneck speed, sheets of sound approach was of course out of question as I am a mere human being.
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 2 years ago
Hi Diego
Thanks!
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 2 years ago
very great!
08Replis08 2 years ago
Thank you Replis!
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 2 years ago
YES! been waiting ages for new vid XD
awesome man =)
knowthetruth2 2 years ago
Hi knowthetruth
Thanks!
By the way, that was a fast comment! I didn't even knew that the video already was processed and ready to be watched. Usually it takes longer I believe.
Keep swinging,
Rounder
rounder2u 2 years ago