btw, I think Capa could have avoided the use of Queen at all. If he played Bf3 instead of Qf3, it would have been same situation. Though it seems Capa wanted to end the game quickly with encouraging Ramon to trade material and secure the win.
yes but you cant say capa was the most talented i mean you are right this was incredible, but i dont know when fisher started but when he would have done exactly the same as capa i think fisher would have been as good, i think even better.... but i dont know why you said capa created counterplay white didnt have any play at all, and i have no clue why he gave up the queen he didnt seem to be able to do anything without it but you are still right capa was incredible
That's totally a mismatch. Capablanca was already four years old. Ramon Iglesias should have challenged him when he was two or at least while he was still unable to speak Spanish.
As with music, the basic rules of chess are very simple. Is it so suprising that a child mind captured by the game of chess so early on develops into such a master? Chess must've been like breathing for him.
in response to some one very rude and probobly much weaker chess player than i am because i am a very strong one !! , it`s clearly u who don`t know chess history since it was Alekhine who Defeated Capablanca and took away his world title from him forcing his dominace over him .
kingscrusher - the only person who can make a queen's odds game look competitive and interesting. Even mispronounced capa's first name and moved right along without missing a beat.
i always thought that Capablanca was the most talented positional player in a most consistant bases , and Karpov at his peak is a very close second !! but that does`nt mean they are or were the strongest ,we know that the more dominant ones were more tactical like alekhine and Kasparov.
chessgames, clearly you dont know your chess history! The more dominant players where tactical like Alekhine and Kasparov? If you do your homework before making stupid comments, you will find that Capablanca was unbeaten in tournament play for 8 consecutive years! When he was eventually beaten, news spread around the world like wild fire, so tell me that isn't dominance and show me someone with the same record.
I used to play some of the players in my high school chess club, giving them queen's odds. I don't remember ever losing, but even if I did, it definitely wasn't as large of a margin as this game. In conclusion, the 4 year old capa is far greater than anyone in my club, when they are 15 to 18 years old!
It is in itself mind-boggling the notion of a four-year-old playing chess! Many children at this young age would make mistakes, like erring the right allocation of the pieces, or being tactically outplayed. So, of course this a demontrantion of Capablanca's genius.
Hey! To those of you who disregard this game as a superb feat by Capablanca, I propose a scientific experiment: try getting a four-year-old child to play a game on the same conditions of this one against an average player. You will see why this game wasn't simply a question of simplifying an initial superior position. Capablanca has shown over the game his inate sensibility to chess, by centralizing his king on final phase and manouvering his knight.
I don't understand why he didn't simply try and trade off material right from the get go? surely that would have been the most logical plan of attack?
hmm its a great win at that age but i think it is a bit much to give him credit for thinking positionally when making his moves. i mean its still good that he can do this at 4 but i think youre being a bit biased here tyfon.
it would have been impressive if he'd played a simple combination or something - like taking away a defender to win a pawn.
i think this shows understanding of taking pieces but little more.
I think there was clear evidence of positional understanding, and actually *NOT* playing too "concretely" (tactically). E.g. not playing Nxd2, but instead playing Nd4. It was the positional moves which impressed me, and at the very end, the central king, is a clue to the hallmark of Capablanca's later endgame genius. It is evidence he knew when the king was becoming strong, and was quick to activate it. The positional stuff impressed me, especially the final king activation.
A fantastic video King. I carnt read some of these ridiculous comments made by people who probably couldn't talk when they were 4 years old let alone play reasonable chess! some people are crazy to criticise a 4 year olds tactical and positional play, nutters. Capablanca had countless masterpieces and I am a huge fan. If anyone wishes to truly understand chess, then study Capablanca's games and then maybe people will understand "mysterious moves". Thanyou for the vid Tryfon.
lol its funny hearing you talk about what he may be preparing eg 'maybe preparing c5 to blockade the c4 pawn' 'counterplay with b5' etc. i just cant imagine him thinking at that level at 4 years old! in fact, there is no way. i dont believe he was.
4 yrs old?? no way! really???
bistnenutte 9 months ago
amazing
buzzbox2nd 11 months ago
hm i don't think he was very good.
thegreatsolar 1 year ago
Very good game!
btw, I think Capa could have avoided the use of Queen at all. If he played Bf3 instead of Qf3, it would have been same situation. Though it seems Capa wanted to end the game quickly with encouraging Ramon to trade material and secure the win.
Lbezhanishvili 2 years ago
people, the point of this is that even at the age of four, capablanca understands how to use his pieces.
mckill2007 2 years ago
capa was the most talented in his time, as well as fischer, kasparov, etc...in theire respective era...
now i think magnus carlsen is the best...
mckill2007 2 years ago
yes but you cant say capa was the most talented i mean you are right this was incredible, but i dont know when fisher started but when he would have done exactly the same as capa i think fisher would have been as good, i think even better.... but i dont know why you said capa created counterplay white didnt have any play at all, and i have no clue why he gave up the queen he didnt seem to be able to do anything without it but you are still right capa was incredible
IHATENEDAH 2 years ago
That's totally a mismatch. Capablanca was already four years old. Ramon Iglesias should have challenged him when he was two or at least while he was still unable to speak Spanish.
mavaddat 2 years ago
capa with a queen in this game would have been a total wipeout, incredible.
geekorthodox9 2 years ago
Actually, capa did have a queen; his opponent did not.
For 4 years old, it is very impressive play anyway. Most 4 year olds couldn't even ride a bike...
QuakePhil 2 years ago
As with music, the basic rules of chess are very simple. Is it so suprising that a child mind captured by the game of chess so early on develops into such a master? Chess must've been like breathing for him.
pudicio 2 years ago
amazing
nomindbeats 2 years ago
4 years old... Pure raw mind power!!
kobebryant0824 2 years ago
in response to some one very rude and probobly much weaker chess player than i am because i am a very strong one !! , it`s clearly u who don`t know chess history since it was Alekhine who Defeated Capablanca and took away his world title from him forcing his dominace over him .
chessgames 3 years ago
you would also like to note that alekhine avoided capablanca for the rest of his life in fear because cpablanca would run him over
capurera2 2 years ago
how do yoiu know?
untouchable58 2 years ago
Haha, Capa seems to delay the use of his queen as much as possible, as if he wanted to show he could beat that guy without his queen as well :)
Ganker78 3 years ago
i agree
dhundupdolker 3 years ago
Is Capa cuban?
russianchessdominant 3 years ago
Was ;_;
ooaaveehoo 2 years ago
4 years old. impressive!
ulujm 3 years ago 4
kingscrusher - the only person who can make a queen's odds game look competitive and interesting. Even mispronounced capa's first name and moved right along without missing a beat.
lostthefight 3 years ago
i always thought that Capablanca was the most talented positional player in a most consistant bases , and Karpov at his peak is a very close second !! but that does`nt mean they are or were the strongest ,we know that the more dominant ones were more tactical like alekhine and Kasparov.
chessgames 3 years ago
chessgames, clearly you dont know your chess history! The more dominant players where tactical like Alekhine and Kasparov? If you do your homework before making stupid comments, you will find that Capablanca was unbeaten in tournament play for 8 consecutive years! When he was eventually beaten, news spread around the world like wild fire, so tell me that isn't dominance and show me someone with the same record.
KNIGHTSTALE22 3 years ago
wow that was great for a little kid
UnluckyLuciano 3 years ago
capa played without his qween,only one move qf6! interesting!!
kiitoob 3 years ago
for a four year old, i could barely count to hundred, let alone know the rules.
he must have been born a genius.
harshvgaus 3 years ago 2
I used to play some of the players in my high school chess club, giving them queen's odds. I don't remember ever losing, but even if I did, it definitely wasn't as large of a margin as this game. In conclusion, the 4 year old capa is far greater than anyone in my club, when they are 15 to 18 years old!
Shadysc2008 3 years ago
It is in itself mind-boggling the notion of a four-year-old playing chess! Many children at this young age would make mistakes, like erring the right allocation of the pieces, or being tactically outplayed. So, of course this a demontrantion of Capablanca's genius.
naujan 3 years ago
Nice video! You did it again!
Hey! To those of you who disregard this game as a superb feat by Capablanca, I propose a scientific experiment: try getting a four-year-old child to play a game on the same conditions of this one against an average player. You will see why this game wasn't simply a question of simplifying an initial superior position. Capablanca has shown over the game his inate sensibility to chess, by centralizing his king on final phase and manouvering his knight.
naujan 3 years ago 2
I don't understand why he didn't simply try and trade off material right from the get go? surely that would have been the most logical plan of attack?
panda3939 3 years ago
Not as elegant :)
vecter 3 years ago
Read chess books in the womb? :P
xXxWilliExXx 3 years ago
When I was four I swallowed 2 pawns and was working on a rook when my parents stopped me.
undeadnightorc 3 years ago 26
LOLOL that was great
Minkki82 3 years ago
only 4 years old...extraordinary...
boiswatching 3 years ago
4 years old holy shit
buffguy86 3 years ago
"Bravely" took the g-pawn??
Toxie207 3 years ago
the g file would be opening so the rook can attack the black king
MAfr3ak 3 years ago
Come on! Get serious. Black is in no real danger - the g-pawn is insignificant given Black's material advantage.
Toxie207 3 years ago
well in many positions the g or h pawns are sacrificed to open lines to attack the king
MAfr3ak 3 years ago
True, but given that Black was a whole queen up it really doesn't count as bravery!
Toxie207 3 years ago
I was trying to be empathatic to what the four your old Capablanca might have perceived as a risk - that his king would come under fire.
kingscrusher 3 years ago
hmm its a great win at that age but i think it is a bit much to give him credit for thinking positionally when making his moves. i mean its still good that he can do this at 4 but i think youre being a bit biased here tyfon.
it would have been impressive if he'd played a simple combination or something - like taking away a defender to win a pawn.
i think this shows understanding of taking pieces but little more.
trixapete 3 years ago
I think there was clear evidence of positional understanding, and actually *NOT* playing too "concretely" (tactically). E.g. not playing Nxd2, but instead playing Nd4. It was the positional moves which impressed me, and at the very end, the central king, is a clue to the hallmark of Capablanca's later endgame genius. It is evidence he knew when the king was becoming strong, and was quick to activate it. The positional stuff impressed me, especially the final king activation.
kingscrusher 3 years ago
A fantastic video King. I carnt read some of these ridiculous comments made by people who probably couldn't talk when they were 4 years old let alone play reasonable chess! some people are crazy to criticise a 4 year olds tactical and positional play, nutters. Capablanca had countless masterpieces and I am a huge fan. If anyone wishes to truly understand chess, then study Capablanca's games and then maybe people will understand "mysterious moves". Thanyou for the vid Tryfon.
KNIGHTSTALE22 3 years ago
Dosen't make sense- With a +9 handicap -dosen't count. Pretty much anymove wins with a queen up.
jackfruit22 3 years ago
are you serious? he was four years old? I play my nepthews who are 7 and eight and they don't play anything like this. Utter genius.
jonparov 3 years ago
I don't think a large amount of 4 year olds would.
andreicmello 3 years ago
Thanks for your video.
edmalikin 3 years ago
I have some serious trouble beating DR3 with rook odds on my octal at 5min play. I would love to see a game with you against rybka with handicap.
heltok 3 years ago
lol its funny hearing you talk about what he may be preparing eg 'maybe preparing c5 to blockade the c4 pawn' 'counterplay with b5' etc. i just cant imagine him thinking at that level at 4 years old! in fact, there is no way. i dont believe he was.
trixapete 3 years ago
AWESOME! u do the best chess videos
kingfrubby1 3 years ago
this is a great display of understanding by Capa, but does THIS game prove his talent?
chessdawgz 3 years ago 2