Ocarina of Time - All Temples V2 - Shadow Temple (TAS)

[UnrealSDA]

God damn!

[TomNook120]

@toxicparrot321 wrong video I followed a link :P

[TomNook120]

<3 Wrong warp

[toxicparrot321]

@TomNook120 There is no wrong warp in this video...

[disturbedhalo117]

Are you almost done with this!?!?

[KoopaNinj]

Wow, this is really good swordless. lol

[yottanuclei]

can you please explain the part where you teleport accross the graveyard?

[NONAME1838]

skip from 2:16-3:36 it will save 1 min of your life

[YaBoyBoNeY]

Why did you get the Iron Boots if they werent necessary to complete the temple?

[mrbisshie]

ReDead: Why did Link go through the wall? =( I just wanted to be his friend.... I'm so lonely....

[zachman0512]

gees this guys good

[luiji2]

@swordlesslink Man I am a huge fan of your speedruns and I was so happy today that I discovered you run again the OoT (last time I checked was last spring). I wait for the final video when you are done. Good luck!

[xAfterDawnx]

@SwordlessLink There's a new strat getting past the Door of Time, are you incorporating that in this TAS?

[simpsonNirvana94]

Shadow Temple is by far the best temple in the whole game.

[rururu2000andru]

what is a WIP?

and is swordless Japanese?

[toxicparrot321]

@rururu2000andru work in progress, and no he is Scottish

[ZOMFG102]

@rururu2000andru wip = work in progress

and swordless link changes the text in japenesse becuause the text is shorter than in english thus saving time

[sk8ersynistersean]

MrGrunz and SwordlessLink= the best 2 TASers of Ocarina of time-Majora's Mask

[Pendst]

i'm pretty sure what you did to that redead would be frowned upon in most countries.

[ilovenuts]

I always read the title as "Ocarina: OF ALL TIME" in Kanye's voice.

[cambo23man]

Bongo Bongo always scared the shit out of me

[StaticZSR]

@4203105 That's the first time I've asked...

[4203105]

@StaticZSR

Yeah but a lot of people ask on every video. Actually even on this one people have asked before you. You could have read the answers to these.

But the "stop asking!" still was a general thing directed at everybody who has asked that question.

[Darkemperor91]

Awesome!!!!

[ToonLinkGaming]

Swordless, have you considered uploading this as a whole once all videos are uploaded? Maybe get Aktan to encode it if he's not busy? :)

[4203105]

@ToonLinkGaming

No he won't join these videos! Stop asking!

[whumper88]

i thought backwalking for adult was faster than sidehopping

[FireTehCannonzors]

@whumper88

Nope, sidehopping > backwalking. Backwalking is faster as child though

[Runnerguy2489]

@FireTehCannonzors It's the other way around. Over long flat distances, backwalking is faster as an adult. For Child Link sidehopping over long flat distances is faster.

However, in most cases you won't see backwalking as an adult...because any longer distances that would backwalk can do things like z slide or a slide. And here in Shadow there are lots of bends and turns, which makes sidehopping faster because you'd have to constantly change your backwalk angle (has slower acceleration).

[dhagen360]

godly

[mkmd13]

I mean seriously, who figures out this crap!? Like the redead wall glitch to get to the boss room....... Did someone just wake up one day and said, "huh, I wonder if I can get to the boss room in the Shadow Temple by wall glitching in the redead room with bombs."

[4203105]

@mkmd13

Yeah that was me. :D

[mkmd13]

@4203105 Haha your one crazy SOB if you really did figure that out.

[mzxrules]

@mkmd13 Well, if you look at the end result it's hard to see where the logic comes in. However, all of that was discovered through a series of tricks discovered over the years.

First came ISG, then followed hovering (which has been refined with new tricks and strategies over the years), then came the discovery that scene exits are always loaded, followed by several boss key skips (including the shadow temple), then lastly the out of bounds clip off the re-dead with the hookshot.

[mkmd13]

@mzxrules Yea I can see what you mean. Thats the reason why I love this game sooooo much!!! Glitches FTW!

[4203105]

@mkmd13

Basically I had the idea to hookshot clip, hover, then superflip into the loading zone and told Grunz to make it work. That's how our dynamic works. :D

Well to be honest most of the time I come up with a crazy unrefined idea and we bounce it off each other till it works. Grunz does most of the work and this one was especially hard since the shadow temple has a mechanic, where when you fall for too long you are dead, no matter how deep you actually fall.

So major respect for Grunz!

[MrGrunz]

@mkmd13

yeah, that's pretty much how slowking and I came up with it ;)

[CaptainX24]

@mkmd13

I used to wonder that, but one of the big glitchers/speedrunners mentioned that some things generally tend to be exploitable, like clipping through walls.

[Kosmicd12]

@mkmd13 Someone should make a movie called "a day in the life of mrgrunz"

[Filiolus]

@mkmd13 tbh, that's what happens when you play and love a game like this so much. you find new and fun things :D for people like him its all fun

[illidan91111]

@mkmd13 exactly :), i think doin a KNOWN glitch takes some effort to practice, but exploring a glitch is like ..... eh, i dunno how to explain but how do u guys explore glitches ? xD

[SDAndreLL]

@mkmd13 I'm not completely sure, but I think it's mr.grunz.

[METROIDKILLERX]

2 questions:

1. Is there less text in the Japanese version, or is it the fact that it's faster, or just personal preference?

2. At 0:10 with the superslide, why did you wait so long before releasing Z and R? Couldn't Link warp to the plant sooner?

[0Krusnik0]

@METROIDKILLERX Japanese text is faster.

[ixiaceixi]

@METROIDKILLERX jap text is faster and he waited so long because he had to superslide on top of one of the graves so that when he warped he would be high enough to sidehop onto the ledge.

[narutofan9999]

@METROIDKILLERX

The time per character is the same in the japanese version, but because the japanese need less characters than we to express the same thing, it is faster, yeah.

[Zakuru12]

i was watching the whole redead part and i was like O.O um...

[juacoredx]

im waiting for the entire walkthrough!! hope you complete your training soon!

[kinkajuu1]

i hope that you upload the entire playthrough once your done :)

[xn00btuberx]

Just another great video which blew my fucking mind. Great job, man, great job.

[robotortoise]

Great video, Swordless, but what's with the ReDead? At 1:54, couldn't you use the hookshot and/or bombs to stun the ReDead and save a few frames?

[Mitjitsu]

Wow

[IlatomikIl]

Pro

[algiasphere]

Fucking crazy skips. Good job, this TAS is gonna be awesome.

[Razor7581]

Awesome.

[wutisausername]

New videos from swordlesslink is just like christmas

[arosepsy]

@wutisausername

it really is

[FriedChckn13]

Every time I see this i think its the full run, but then I realize the part of the video title that's cut off just says WIP...

[calithug3000]

Awesome buddy!!!Keep up the nice TAS Videos!!!

[chavoiia]

e___e

Amazing!

[aluskus]

uh yeah, wait what?

[oligi3008]

Redeads are so useful, why are people afraid of them?

[AbsoluteZer092]

@oligi3008 i guess ppl never got past the whole "stop playing while i scream at you" thing

[aigamerDS]

Question: Why are you TASing Japanese version? Am I missing FAQ or something?

[Knallpuffen]

@aigamerDS I believe it's for the faster text. I mean.. Who want's to see text? Really? Haven't we all learned it by now from the 1337 times we played through this game?

[DivineSlayer1]

damn, i switched tabs for a few seconds and bongo bongo died right as i switched back, major props SwordlessLink

[ReduxFear]

Are you going to finish this WiP? 

[GeneralCrix1]

Damnit that boss key skip is ridiculous. Mr. Grunz is the real Hero of Time.

[yottanuclei]

@GeneralCrix1 if only you could use bombs for transport in real life

[StaticZSR]

Will these segments ever be compiled into a full length TAS?

[4203105]

@StaticZSR

NO! stop asking

[7584695]

have you stopped the seasons tas?

[aleckermit]

Redead at 2:16 "Fuck this I'm going back to sit down".

[KoploperMau]

Seriously, HOW THE F*CK did you discover you could get into the boss zone from that room?

[aleckermit]

@KoploperMau

There's a computer program that can open the Ocarina of Time game maps, from there you can see where everything is located (including load zones etc).

[KoploperMau]

@aleckermit Oh, that explains things. Utility of Time, perhaps?

[aleckermit]

@KoploperMau

Yes that's the one.

[SiriusPP]

what the V2 stands for?

[ffrplaye]

@SiriusPP Version 2, there's already a MST TAS on TASvideos(dot)org but it's really outdated.

[Fraga1ma]

no heart container?

[ffrplaye]

@Fraga1ma No point in getting any of them in a TAS 'cause he won't ever die. (Well there is a point in getting them in a 100% TAS but that's not what this is.)

[4203105]

@ffrplaye

Actually there is a point in getting one, since it prolongs the time he can withstand the heat in the fire temple. But four in total are enough.

[stootab]

that was incredible

[mrnintendo622]

bongo bongo looks like a penis

[flezki]

@swordlessLink when will you upload the complete run?

[4203105]

@flezki

Probably not before it's done. :p

[flezki]

@4203105 that's the most worthless reply I've ever gotten so far. of course I know he won't upload the whole thing before it's done.

[4203105]

@flezki

Then stop asking those worthless questions! If you know why do you ask? How is he supposed to know when the run is finished?

[ZeekyBoogyBoog]

o swordless amazing as always!

[themastercole2]

how do people find this stuff!!!

[AlissonSiqueiraBR]

I liked that "MrGrunz" signature part 1:52

[MrGrunz]

@AlissonSiqueiraBR

that's why I put it in^^

when I do all the work I want people to at least realize that this section was TASed by me ;)

[danielkraak]

I can't wait for the complete run!

[SeraphElpis]

Isn't this the third or fourth "last public WIP?"

[IcyRundas]

What a long way TAS's have come.

[kunstkr1tik]

Can't wait for the complete run :D

[GodIsCodeXIII]

hell of abuse, really liked it :D

[Navnroid]

When going OoB, how do you figure out where the specific doors are, not being able to see them?

[MrGrunz]

@Navnroid

MHS aka Memory Hacking Software is a programm that tells me link's position in numbers. By investigating the shadow temple a lot, I was able to figure out a path through the void, that allows us to reach the boss loading zone.

[4203105]

@Navnroid

What Grunz said, plus looking up the map beforehand in Utility of Time helps a lot.

[mokesmoe]

1. Slide to bushes.

2. Slide back.

3. ???

4. Profit.

[Bumperpegasus]

4 hearts?

[cxsss]

@Bumperpegasus fire temple

[Bumperpegasus]

0:13

wat?

[TheYannick22]

Lol, why is this always so entertainingly amazing.

asdikashdioashdiosahidha^^^^^^­sajdlasjdklas is that actually a word?

: )

[JacobShulman]

wtf is going on lol

[GigaBoost]

I've always wondered if you can save your input or whatever from a point in the run if you want to redo the parts before it to save some time, or do you absolutely have to do the run chronologically?

[mzxrules]

@GigaBoost For the most part you can do just that, it's just that a number of things (cuccos, item drops) tend to require a bit of manipulation.

[xxXxBreakingxXxx]

Seriously man, your birth name should have been

''Wanna' see Zelda get entirely molested?''

[Drmkwk]

????? :D

[xxXxBreakingxXxx]

You fuck Zelda up the asshole

[DamageHeroSobo]

omfg .:D

[shizzewoaw]

Hey game, is it ok if i show you something awesome? :D

[KidKajoo]

Hahah that part with the redead.. At first he was like: IMMMM GONNA GET YA! And then he was like: awhhhh *sadface*

[MajoraMIM]

Couldn't you hookshot bongo's eyes right after hitting the hands instead of waiting him to get on the ground?

[SwordlessLink]

@MajoraMIM You are right. Thanks. Not sure why no one thought of this before, but it saves 123 frames (2.05 seconds). I'll upload the improved boss battle.

[Kurausukun]

@SwordlessLink Hey, SL, will there be a full version uploaded at some point/will there be an English submission to TASVideos? (By the way, why are you using the Jap version anyway?)

[MarioBrothers120]

@Kurausukun the japanese version has less text than english so it takes less time

[darkeye14]

@Kurausukun

The Japanese version is identical to the English version, except for text. I don't know the exact numbers (because I don't know Swordless' route), but the JPN version saves somewhere around 11 minutes. In both English and Japanese, the text scrolls at one character per frame, but it takes far fewer characters to express an idea in Japanese, so the text ends up much faster.

[copper4eva]

@SwordlessLink

any estimates on how much longer the tas is gonna be.

[0Krusnik0]

@SwordlessLink it's the simple things?

[thepsynergist]

@SwordlessLink I thought Zelda OOT played at 20fps?

[ToonLinkGaming]

@thepsynergist 29.97fps for most N64 games, pretty sure.

[Runnerguy2489]

@thepsynergist It plays at 20 visual frames per second, but there are 60 input frames per second, which is typically the number referred to for a TAS.

[EmperorZander]

By the way, You beat Bongo Bongo faster than i do

[EmperorZander]

One question: How do you find these glitches?

[ABchimpas]

@EmperorZander most of those glitches are found by other people, and are really old, he just put them toghether

[EmperorZander]

@ABchimpas That makes sense. I bet most of these glitches cant be done on the American version.

[iKirbyTails]

@EmperorZander Actually they can. Lol

[EmperorZander]

@iKirbyTails Well, they don't seem easy to do. especially the bomb jump technique.

[ABchimpas]

@EmperorZander actually any glitch can be done in any version, playing japanese version has something to do with texts and laggyless

[EmperorZander]

@ABchimpas If that's the case then the Japanese version is... better? i don't think so. I think theyre all the same.

[ABchimpas]

@EmperorZander are the same, but japanese has some gameplay advantages, like faster text roll, but if we talk about story and graphics well they are the same, I recommend you to visit Zelda Speed Runs dot com, ocarina of time section then general knowledge and version diferences

[4203105]

@EmperorZander

This Boss Key skip was found through a combination of looking at the map in utility of time and using old glitches. I guess you are mostly refering to that one...

[BoxLineProductions]

So.. that was weird.

[drkraid]

hey redead, come here a sec

[yoshimansxl]

Redead got raped by link.

[TheFreedomcloud]

This was just mind boggling. I mean this is the most epic video game footage i have ever seen.

[Ricinator0]

Chuck Norris should be fighting criminals instead of playing video games.

[Mfunn]

@Ricinator0 lol

[Ace3DF]

@Ricinator0 Chuck Norris, does both, at the same time.

[tangramman]

@Ricinator0 dude, Chuck Norris ain't got shit on SwordlessLink! :D

[CrazyGameNerd]

SL and Grunz TASing together could be dangerous for the viewers because of too much awesomeness.

[Eddyble]

Holy... shit

[guhungamanga]

great stuff SL!

[tidora]

wtf at 0:14

?

[tidora]

1st view and 1st comment... u mad?

[joshuapsgibbons]

@tidora Second comment actually.

[TopPun01]

@tidora Failed on both attempts...

U Mad, secondfag? U Jelly?