The pilot was going to miss the runway anyways had he cleared the "mountain", He was WAY to the left.. possibly even hit some "residences" alongside the track.
I landed there just after another crash.. Very scary.. It is very hectis there. As soon as it is clear planes start taking of from Kathmandu to bring people and to take back others.. It is incridable hectic. We just landed and the clouds took over, so we were stuck for 3 days. Was supposed to take a helicopter flight.
For those blaming the pilot for landing, total visibility is rarely available at this airport. Pilots usually land in similar condition, it is just that this is one freak incident where the pilot missed. And by the way, there is no way to go around at this airport. Once you sight the runway, it is either attempt a landing, however crazy it might be or crash into the mountain right opposite. This is Lukla, not Heathrow.
Lukla is one of the most dangerous airport in the world. If i was that pilot, i would have aborted the landing and go back. You can barely see the runway with conditions like that
@SlyMac69 I'm very sorry I was in a bad way and my life was headed in the wrong direction when I posted the comment, but I have fortunately turned it around. Sorry if I offened you
@jogi1957, the pilot was past the point of no return. the manuevering space is limited, and he was at a high elevation so he didn't have the necessary amount of horsepower needed to climb out for a go around.
I WISH PEOPLE WOULD SHOW A LITTLE MORE RESPECT FOR THE PILTOT AND PASSENGERS ONBOARD THIS FLUGHT. THE PILTOT DID YHE BEST JOB HE COULD POSSIBLY DO! ALSO THIS WAS A TRAGIC EVENT - WITH MANY ONBOARD KILLED. SO SHOW A LITTLE MORE SYMPATHY EVERYONE!!
@THESweetLOver1234 No wonder they crashed. I'd never fly with a piltot at the controls. I always insist on a pilot. And never go for a flught. They are fraught with danger. I personally prefer a flight every time.
We landed there a month ago. Our pilot made 4 attempts but thankfully made the decision to go back to kathmandu. There's plenty of fuel as we circled kathmandu for ages and then got diverted to pokara as another plane crashed at kathmandu. While I hated the flight the trek is amazing, and it was a risk I knew I was taking.
Crazy to think that we just witnessed the end's of people's lives.. and a few few higher and a few feet to the left... nothing would make this landing special.
@oktal3700 It is clearly IMC conditions at the airport, no way he could see the runway whith that big cloud in the way, he should have aborted the landing and headed to the alternative.
@sixstringfretter im watching the same programme now on History channel, 'most extreme airports' this airports number 1, as you said, once committed to land you have to go for it as there's a mountain at the other end
@Axmedkoole Where could he go? Once you pass a certain point, you are 100% committed to landing. The person to blame is not the pilot, but the airport authority, they should have closed the airport and waved off the incoming plane long before they got that far. I watched a Discovery Channel special on this airport and they said that there is no go around or missed approach.
@Axmedkoole "Stupid Pilot"? How about stupid youtuber (you). He He had nowhere else to land and did not have enough fuel to divert to LAX instead you dumb ass and did not have enough fuel to loiter and hope for better conditions. He had to try to land the plane.
@robertgift From what I have read there is no option to abort a landing because there is a cliff face at the top of the runway. There are no landing aids. Its all visual.
Thumbs up if you're glad this guy had the common decency to shut the camera off, as opposed to standing there filming while people suffered in a burning aircraft!
What an unprecedented theory... put the fucking camera down, and assist those poor bastards.
Simply, this is not an air...something at all! ICAO should have prohibited passenger flights to backyards like this. And they are not a few around the globe...RIP for those.
Silly question...do they have landing lights and/or PAPI lights in that airport?? don't look like it...also what about a mini ILS for days like this when the visibility in this rift is 0%
All the comments, none constructive! Mistakes happen, funeral homes make money at cleaning up the mistakes to make the living think they are doing the right thing.. Yes, I suppose you could go and level another mountain in the area so that A380 could land, then when it crashes you can lose hundreds of people, but it cost a billion dollars to make it happen...Plus you get all the wrong people going there with they stupid little lives.
Who is this asking about ILS in Lukla? You are takling about a remote airstrip some 19,000 ft above sea level. ILS gadgetry requires power supply at a mertro level and a village water wheel obviously does not suffice.
Pilot's in Nepal must be selected on the merits of their individual technical aptitude, and of course reasonably good education, and not merely on the merits of outstanding SLC/College results obtained through sheer midnight oil burning memorising what is in the book. USA has an outstanding criteria set aside by the FAA to choose the right individual for an aviation occupation. The rest of the world should follow this if not for other issues.
This footage clearly proves pilot's negligence, as you can see can see dense cloud formation around the landing strip threshold. In a situation like this the pilot in command should have either done 'a go around' or 'chosen the next nearest safer landing option'. Fuel couldn't have been the issue because all Lukla bound STOLs are laden with sufficient amount for the return leg to Kathmandu. Verdic t: Bad judgement, decision-making and negligence.
@LiLTMac123 it doesn't matter, does it? If the fog/cloud is known to be there and you can assume it's visible from the distance. IMO pilot should not approach the airstrip at all.
@robertocabra the only way he could have aborted is that if he he was no where near the mountains and there was an atc(or another pilot) telling him his visibility is very low so he can land temporarily at another airport. but from a distance(if its 10 or 20 so miles) having the runway in sight or not you must land the plane since the airport is all surrounded by mountains and there isnt an atc tower to guide the pilots out of it. thats my opinion though.
@LiLTMac123 sorry, come again, why do you must land the plane regardless of the weather? I don't really get it. Lukla has AFIS working and pilot should have a brain to use as well. Unless he was running on vapor, approach in 0 visibility is a definite suicide.
People make mistakes, some mistakes just have more severe consequences. I feel bad for the people who died in this crash, and for the pilot who miraculously survived... Saw this airport on ''the worlds most extreme airports''-show where Lukla was rated #1... Scary :P
Total IFR Conditions should not have been allowed to attempt landing with ZERO visability! Total Negligence by PIC. Opinion are not like a##holes when lives are at stake, this was PILOT ERROR and the people did not have to die, I don't care about the pilots, they know the risks and get paid for them. The passengers paid to die and that just ain't right. So fesoj3107 is the ***hole he speaks of actually!
@skipsassy1 My guess is that the original WX report was all good for a visual landing, in the mountains anywhere in the world weather comes out of no where. The PIC may not have had enough fuel to make it to any other strip safely. In that case attempting a landing anywhere else was worse. You will never know what went through his/her head.
@rey2290 no there isn't. Lukla is one of those 'when you commit, you're coming down.' ILS would be too imprecise for this type of approach and even if you think you're off the mark there is no abort path. It's land or crash. Conditions change quickly in mountains. Cloud moving in takes many planes every decade.
Why would a pilot try and land in that kind of cloud cover with no apparent visibility of the runway? Or was there no other place to turn around and return to? I'm not being morbid I'm simply curious.
I flew into Lukla 2 years ago, it's a tricky landing for sure but there are 10-15 flights a day going in and out. They don't fly when the weather is bad. I was stuck in Lukla for 3 days because of weather.
This pilot was unlucky, the cloud comes from the valley very quickly. It only take a minute or 2.
It's certainly not as bad as your friend makes out.
Do any pilots here know how close the clouds were to the runways end/beginning? They seem to be right at the cliff's edge, which would seem to make this a CAT III approach, right? I'm instrument rated but know little about airline approach procedures. Do small regional-type airplanes have CAT III capability?
yes looks like they are right on the cliff edge, so visability less than 200 m would make this a CAT III B with virtually no decision height. However Lukla airport has not ILS equipment. I think there is VOR/DME and NDB avaliable, but at these metrological conditions it definatley should have been a go aroud and wait for better weather. Or go to reserve airport. But I guess there was no option but try a landing. Most small regional planes have CAT II, but can be upgraded to CAT III A.
@contemporarymonk you can't do a TOGA at Lukla because there is a huge mountain on the other side that is impossible to out climb not only due to the height of the mountain but also because your engine cannot perform very well at that altitude due to low oxygen levels
@jesusisbetter As far as I know, there aren't any landing aids, no lights, no ILS, so all approaches must be IFR. And seeing as this would most likely be a CAT III C landing condition and there aren't any CAT III C systems operating in the world, I don't think these aircraft would have them either.
Everyone has the right to stupidity.And these guys were caught up in it at the wrong time.But the people who actually abuse the privelege to having the right to stupidity is commenting on youtube saying how your grandma could land that plane safely.
@bombardierdude15 That was a cliff, the plane, and everyone else inside of it would have fallen probably close to a thousand feet total. by the way the weather looks, it looks like if he would have kept filming you wouldnt have seen anything. but i do think he should have kept filming though
@33GeoStef33 Yes. Lukla is notoriously difficult for landing. Depending on the time of year, it isn't unusual to wait several hours, even days, for a flight in or out of Lukla.
Nearly every crash or disaster footage I see (I know ..I'm sad!).... Why does the cameraman drop the camera down at the moment of the most interesting part of the film?
@cashman156 I've been wondering about the same thing. maybe they're just too shocked to be able to hold the camera. i know it happens every time. pisses me off so bad.
Worst cinematographer in the world. You move the camera to avoid showing what everyone wants to see (which is what you titled the video). Why did you bother uploading it? For that you get a thumbs down from me. Get off YouTube!
Lukla Airport is most dangerous airport in Nepal. There are frequently many airplanes are crashed. To going Kathmandu to Lukla in October season people waits about a week to go there because of weather and other problems.
Please find other option to go Lukla or use another airport Lamidanda,Phaplu, Kangel and propose airport Mamare Jubu.
Brilliant Post and Filming. just got done with another one: "Nasty crash of Twin Otter- British Colombia. makes you watch first 2 whole minutes of just the airplane Taxiing and Runup. yeah, viewers wanna watch all that........then, unlike here, just as described, the goddamn Plane Tips a wing at Vr, and......crashes. what does the Moron Camera Operator do the second this starts to happen? let's his Fuckin' Camera Point straight down to the ground....what is with YouTube Idiots?
The pilot was not at fault. The river is the point of no return. After you cross the river you have no choice but to land, the terrain does not allow a go around.
@deniasol If that were so, anyone flying to Syangboche would automatically crash into a mountain... Fact is, the river runs the length of the valley, that cloud burst should have been apparent long before turning onto final. The Pilot could either have headed for Syangboche or, not entered the valley in the first place.
@Tomosan2888 From what I have read the clouds formed suddenly, a phenomenon not uncommon to Lukla. Shortly before the crash two twotters landed without problems.
@deniasol Pilots flew through cloud, could not see runway, tried to land anyway, crashed and killed everyone except the Captain. CFIT. CAAN official stated "The crew made incorrect judgment of information on deteriorating weather condition and flew the aircraft into a patch of cloud." end of
OMG kiddy....that´s always the same...they turn off the camera but they don´t help ;) always the same.....And don´t tell me you would run across the runway and help the people......pls stfu...u are not even better,.....ah yeah...stupid you ;)
@Nackduck well... its not a big airport.. there is no EMS or Fire department or heavy police personnel there... all there are is people, bystanders, probably some airport staff... if i was there of course id run to the end of th runway to try n help, its not a very long runway either... even if i couldn't help them id run there just outta shear curiosity...
@Nackduck Always the same? You are immature and unrealistic. YOU are the only one who would stand there and pick your nose. You need to get a life. You talk, but your words are loud and hollow. Anyone could see through you.
I have no life? then tell me how can I write with you :)
Idiot...u just don´t understand what I want to say...anyway stfu afum.......I don´t care what u guys are saying......I stop reading this stupid texts cause I got a real life ;) 12 year old boy
@Nackduck I know your type. You're a coward in real life. Have no accurate perceptions and are removed from reality. Like I said: get off the internet and get a life. I hate to say this but you need to experience some hard times to humble you. That is the cure for people like you.
You know my type? just cause I´m writting a text? stupid you hahaha.....Get A life PLLLEEAASSSEE......just because someone is writting something you think u know him....how stupid how stupid xD xD xD xD xD OMG.....kiddyland....bye bye have a good life.....
@Nackduck maybe he had loved ones on the plane, if that's the case he probably dropped the camera never mind turned it off, Why you think it's stupid of him is beyond me and the fact that you have 17 thumbs up for your comment escapes me even more!
@daveni2 Almost all people drop the camera down when they film an unexpected incident. This is because of the almost irresistible urge to see the unfolding action directly with one's own eye rather than through the camera lens or screen. Only professional cameramen suppress this urge and keep filming.
@ryanhaart I agree, this was a reply to an old comment, Someone thought the guy was an idiot to have stopped filming. Like I said he probably dropped the camera in shock, the last thing on his mind would have been to continue capturing it.
@Nackduck You make me sick dude. If you see an accident you threw your camera out and run with help ASAP, not stay and enjoy.
That's how we do it in Europe (I hear german in background), and - no offence - that's how it should be done. Life is more important than a fucking video footage.
@MichuNeo yep i accept i wish i could see more footage, but the reality is that after such a thing it makes much more sence go and provide help, it is kind of funny how nackduck comment has a lot of thumbs up instead one like yours. That sucks.
@MichuNeo you cant go run and help them because you would get arrested for entering a restricted area. i work on the ramp in YQR and even we cant go and help if there is a crash. if you got to the crash site what would you do besides be in the way of the emergency crew?
@HondaEPHatch Actually the locals here walk across this runway...it isn't fenced off. They sound a siren when a plane is incoming so the locals can get out of the way. They talk about this on the History Channels coverage of the 10 most dangerous airports in the world...and this one ranks #1. After the crash, locals DID run to the crash site but could not do anything to help...fire enveloped the plane. I guess the pilot's body came to rest outside the inferno, and he lived.
Has Lukla Airport "Go Around" procedure ?
cichy1970 1 day ago
@cichy1970 No. There's a wall of rock at the end of the runaway. Beyond that lies huge mountains. Extremely dangerous airport.
hakametal 9 hours ago
Wow he's nutts for trying that
Turner9090 4 days ago
So sad. History channel brought me here. Does anyone know what or where the pilot may be now? Or if there is other footage of the accident?
ninerangel49 3 weeks ago
The pilot was going to miss the runway anyways had he cleared the "mountain", He was WAY to the left.. possibly even hit some "residences" alongside the track.
elbinkbcao 1 month ago
I landed there just after another crash.. Very scary.. It is very hectis there. As soon as it is clear planes start taking of from Kathmandu to bring people and to take back others.. It is incridable hectic. We just landed and the clouds took over, so we were stuck for 3 days. Was supposed to take a helicopter flight.
arievandamthedop 1 month ago
cloud/fog is so thick that you cant even see the explosion
ilikepizza161 2 months ago
Oh, Bisons!
motokid032 2 months ago
@motokid032 He's actually saying "Oh, Scheisse", German for "Oh, Shit"..
boelkstoffschlucker 2 months ago
@boelkstoffschlucker
Haha I know..But it also sounds like Oh, Bisons!
motokid032 2 months ago
For those blaming the pilot for landing, total visibility is rarely available at this airport. Pilots usually land in similar condition, it is just that this is one freak incident where the pilot missed. And by the way, there is no way to go around at this airport. Once you sight the runway, it is either attempt a landing, however crazy it might be or crash into the mountain right opposite. This is Lukla, not Heathrow.
Abymcdan 2 months ago
Lukla is one of the most dangerous airport in the world. If i was that pilot, i would have aborted the landing and go back. You can barely see the runway with conditions like that
tonypham2312 2 months ago
@tonypham2312 You'd have to go around pretty early.
iTiDarkenedK 2 months ago
"All people, except for the pilot, died." wow.. that pilot might not be going near an airplane ever again. I feel sorry for these people.
musicnab 2 months ago
@musicnab The pilot died, it was the copilot that survived. He was ejected from the force of the impact through the front windshield.
sethparr 1 month ago
Pilot - "Yeah I think this is the runwa -" GFOMDSOGMROGMORMNHGAMVODKVOSDLCOASDFNMDROG
Yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhh 3 months ago
@Yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhh your degenerate comment wouldn't be here if you were on that plane
SlyMac69 1 month ago
@SlyMac69 I'm very sorry I was in a bad way and my life was headed in the wrong direction when I posted the comment, but I have fortunately turned it around. Sorry if I offened you
Yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhh 1 month ago
oh....shieße!
backw4rdsmarath0n 3 months ago
@jogi1957, the pilot was past the point of no return. the manuevering space is limited, and he was at a high elevation so he didn't have the necessary amount of horsepower needed to climb out for a go around.
bombardierdude15 4 months ago
stop being a pussy and turn the damn camera back on
bombardierdude15 4 months ago
pause at 0:03 You see that? Yeah me neither.
base5ballsspilot 4 months ago
Typing error below! Sorry!! How embarrassing!
THESweetLOver1234 4 months ago
I WISH PEOPLE WOULD SHOW A LITTLE MORE RESPECT FOR THE PILTOT AND PASSENGERS ONBOARD THIS FLUGHT. THE PILTOT DID YHE BEST JOB HE COULD POSSIBLY DO! ALSO THIS WAS A TRAGIC EVENT - WITH MANY ONBOARD KILLED. SO SHOW A LITTLE MORE SYMPATHY EVERYONE!!
THESweetLOver1234 4 months ago
@THESweetLOver1234 No wonder they crashed. I'd never fly with a piltot at the controls. I always insist on a pilot. And never go for a flught. They are fraught with danger. I personally prefer a flight every time.
pageois 3 months ago
@pageois what are you talking about??!?
RichSp33 3 months ago
We landed there a month ago. Our pilot made 4 attempts but thankfully made the decision to go back to kathmandu. There's plenty of fuel as we circled kathmandu for ages and then got diverted to pokara as another plane crashed at kathmandu. While I hated the flight the trek is amazing, and it was a risk I knew I was taking.
cat1085 4 months ago
Crazy to think that we just witnessed the end's of people's lives.. and a few few higher and a few feet to the left... nothing would make this landing special.
Andrewawesome123 4 months ago
@Andrewawesome123
Although I get your point I have to say that every landing in Lukla is special...
flyer203 4 months ago
dat pilot's my frend's uncle.
SASHIT1000 4 months ago
nooo keep the filing going and let them die
judikerr 4 months ago
What they say:
"They should go around" - "hopefully" - "oh shit..."
moud22 4 months ago
is there an instrument approach here?
flintp51 4 months ago
@flintp51 No, the closest navaid of any kind is 25 miles away.
oktal3700 4 months ago
@oktal3700 It is clearly IMC conditions at the airport, no way he could see the runway whith that big cloud in the way, he should have aborted the landing and headed to the alternative.
corb06 4 months ago
You are a german?
theMagicMan555 5 months ago
to był hel
boorex2 5 months ago
@sixstringfretter im watching the same programme now on History channel, 'most extreme airports' this airports number 1, as you said, once committed to land you have to go for it as there's a mountain at the other end
ltd1980 5 months ago
Stupid pilot. That simple. You never land if you don't have a visual of the runway.
Axmedkoole 5 months ago
@Axmedkoole Where could he go? Once you pass a certain point, you are 100% committed to landing. The person to blame is not the pilot, but the airport authority, they should have closed the airport and waved off the incoming plane long before they got that far. I watched a Discovery Channel special on this airport and they said that there is no go around or missed approach.
sixstringfretter 5 months ago
@Axmedkoole "Stupid Pilot"? How about stupid youtuber (you). He He had nowhere else to land and did not have enough fuel to divert to LAX instead you dumb ass and did not have enough fuel to loiter and hope for better conditions. He had to try to land the plane.
kevjay777 5 months ago
@kevjay777, You done?
Axmedkoole 5 months ago
This was in 2004?? This is very sad.
MrKingsmobile 6 months ago
Oh shison! - Oh shit.
ROBLOXdenty315 6 months ago
Why attempt a landing? Not advised NOT to land?
Or, by the time you can see the runway is not visible, is there no way to gain altitude and turn around?
What a horrible mistake.
Can they have ILS for low visibility?
Unfortunate thathe camera was turned off.
robertgift 6 months ago
@robertgift From what I have read there is no option to abort a landing because there is a cliff face at the top of the runway. There are no landing aids. Its all visual.
TommyChapman 6 months ago
@TommyChapman What is appalling is thathey even tried to land. Almost made it - just a little off to the left.
But why did they eventer the cloud not knowing if the other sidended enough before the runway to make corrections?
So sad.
robertgift 6 months ago
@robertgift Exactly my thoughts.
akrotirifry9 5 months ago
Thumbs up if you're glad this guy had the common decency to shut the camera off, as opposed to standing there filming while people suffered in a burning aircraft!
What an unprecedented theory... put the fucking camera down, and assist those poor bastards.
KrosWyred 6 months ago 63
@KrosWyred
Dude, I feel ya. But how many lessons would we lose in recent history if every camera man lowered the lens out of "respect".
Of course you are also correct to abuse the kidz who are completely insensitive and just want to see carnage.
anashbear 6 months ago
@KrosWyred you are a retard cause you used the F word, or a democrat,,,,
dav61474 3 months ago
@KrosWyred Are you stupid? what about Auschwitz, Dachau no one know anyting about it without film
Makes me sick how this lazy bastard could of go some good film of people burning alive in a plane crash and not film it.
Just selfish.
swallowtail1980 2 weeks ago
Hmmm... trying to land on the worlds worst runway with absolutely no visual
crocodile2006 6 months ago
I am no pilot but i think i would have gone around, and waited for that cloud mass to move or find another place to touchdown
warpedapple 6 months ago
@warpedapple I can tell your not a pilot because it is imposible to go-around at this airport due to the mountains behind it.
StraightUpScott 6 months ago
Simply, this is not an air...something at all! ICAO should have prohibited passenger flights to backyards like this. And they are not a few around the globe...RIP for those.
vtrianta 6 months ago
Silly question...do they have landing lights and/or PAPI lights in that airport?? don't look like it...also what about a mini ILS for days like this when the visibility in this rift is 0%
aviationfreak100 7 months ago
All the comments, none constructive! Mistakes happen, funeral homes make money at cleaning up the mistakes to make the living think they are doing the right thing.. Yes, I suppose you could go and level another mountain in the area so that A380 could land, then when it crashes you can lose hundreds of people, but it cost a billion dollars to make it happen...Plus you get all the wrong people going there with they stupid little lives.
ThePostal67 7 months ago
@ThePostal67 obvious troll.
Rao665 6 months ago
Who is this asking about ILS in Lukla? You are takling about a remote airstrip some 19,000 ft above sea level. ILS gadgetry requires power supply at a mertro level and a village water wheel obviously does not suffice.
Yagyakanta Rai
jogi1957 8 months ago
Pilot's in Nepal must be selected on the merits of their individual technical aptitude, and of course reasonably good education, and not merely on the merits of outstanding SLC/College results obtained through sheer midnight oil burning memorising what is in the book. USA has an outstanding criteria set aside by the FAA to choose the right individual for an aviation occupation. The rest of the world should follow this if not for other issues.
Yagyakanta Rai, Nepal
jogi1957 8 months ago
This footage clearly proves pilot's negligence, as you can see can see dense cloud formation around the landing strip threshold. In a situation like this the pilot in command should have either done 'a go around' or 'chosen the next nearest safer landing option'. Fuel couldn't have been the issue because all Lukla bound STOLs are laden with sufficient amount for the return leg to Kathmandu. Verdic t: Bad judgement, decision-making and negligence.
jogi1957 8 months ago
This pilot made a very stupid decision. This is one of the most difficult airports to land and you should never try it with these thick clouds.
luukdeman111 8 months ago
Crazy to try it..must of been out of fuel
jsmallwood2007 8 months ago
@jsmallwood2007 its not possible to perform a go around for this airport
LiLTMac123 8 months ago
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jsmallwood2007 8 months ago
@LiLTMac123 it doesn't matter, does it? If the fog/cloud is known to be there and you can assume it's visible from the distance. IMO pilot should not approach the airstrip at all.
robertocabra 7 months ago
@robertocabra the only way he could have aborted is that if he he was no where near the mountains and there was an atc(or another pilot) telling him his visibility is very low so he can land temporarily at another airport. but from a distance(if its 10 or 20 so miles) having the runway in sight or not you must land the plane since the airport is all surrounded by mountains and there isnt an atc tower to guide the pilots out of it. thats my opinion though.
LiLTMac123 7 months ago
@LiLTMac123 sorry, come again, why do you must land the plane regardless of the weather? I don't really get it. Lukla has AFIS working and pilot should have a brain to use as well. Unless he was running on vapor, approach in 0 visibility is a definite suicide.
robertocabra 7 months ago
@robertocabra Ikr. This is stuff taught to student private pilots let alone airlines pilots. He should of known better.
RainbowManification 7 months ago
You are more likly to die in a car accindent on your way to work school where ever you may be going than in a plane crash.
thefirstapots1 8 months ago
@thefirstapots1 "You are more likly to die in a car accindent on your way to work school "
Only if your particular school is 1600 km from your home and there is a thick fog.
krbosak 8 months ago
i've landed here safely :)
omgitsjules 8 months ago
People make mistakes, some mistakes just have more severe consequences. I feel bad for the people who died in this crash, and for the pilot who miraculously survived... Saw this airport on ''the worlds most extreme airports''-show where Lukla was rated #1... Scary :P
MeFromTheIsland 8 months ago
oh scheise xD
FlugSimulatorXfan 8 months ago
@FlugSimulatorXfan
joa, is in der tat scheisse...starben schliesslich menschen
AnyBuddy86 8 months ago
@AnyBuddy86 ja! hätte nie gedacht das da einer ein video von davon macht :D
FlugSimulatorXfan 8 months ago
Total IFR Conditions should not have been allowed to attempt landing with ZERO visability! Total Negligence by PIC. Opinion are not like a##holes when lives are at stake, this was PILOT ERROR and the people did not have to die, I don't care about the pilots, they know the risks and get paid for them. The passengers paid to die and that just ain't right. So fesoj3107 is the ***hole he speaks of actually!
skipsassy1 8 months ago
@skipsassy1 My guess is that the original WX report was all good for a visual landing, in the mountains anywhere in the world weather comes out of no where. The PIC may not have had enough fuel to make it to any other strip safely. In that case attempting a landing anywhere else was worse. You will never know what went through his/her head.
brentpabst 8 months ago
How in the world could any pilot elect to make an approach into Lukla in anything less than CAVU?
ROCKSTARCRANE 9 months ago
Shit he says. Dang that had to suck to actually be in. God bless the Dead.
TheSynthZone 9 months ago
I can't believe they'd even permit a landing in pretty much 0 visibility with no ILS.
TheZav88 10 months ago 12
@TheZav88 theres no alternated airport i think so
rey2290 3 months ago
@rey2290 no there isn't. Lukla is one of those 'when you commit, you're coming down.' ILS would be too imprecise for this type of approach and even if you think you're off the mark there is no abort path. It's land or crash. Conditions change quickly in mountains. Cloud moving in takes many planes every decade.
rabbitcancer 3 months ago
@TheZav88 the problem with Lukla is that conditions can change without warning.
rabbitcancer 3 months ago
@rabbitcancer yeah are there even lights to help you in when there is fog?
mboy3515 3 months ago
@mboy3515 lights don't do much in fog. Especially that thick.
rabbitcancer 3 months ago
@rabbitcancer those arent fog, the are clouds
ilikepizza161 3 months ago
@ilikepizza161 whatever...water vapour obscuring vision OKKKKAAYEE? Can't see...no landy.
rabbitcancer 3 months ago
OMG! How can you call yourself a pilot when you attempt such a landing while being responsible for your passengers !! :'(
Ricovandijk 10 months ago
does lukla have an ILS set up?
SuperSparky10297 10 months ago
@SuperSparky10297 No, I don't think it's possible on a runway that short.
TheZav88 10 months ago
@TheZav88 if it is possible, they should. it would greatly decrease the chance of crashes over there.
SuperSparky10297 10 months ago
Thats A Cloud You Dickhead!
bronzesilvergold118 10 months ago
tragic dialogue:
"he will GO AROUND"
"hopefully!"
"OH SHIT!"
.....
guhu87 11 months ago
@guhu87 There is no chance for a go around in Lukla airport.
bhaveshnande 10 months ago
@bhaveshnande ...because there's a mountain ahead!
fs10inator 10 months ago
Why would a pilot try and land in that kind of cloud cover with no apparent visibility of the runway? Or was there no other place to turn around and return to? I'm not being morbid I'm simply curious.
carhart001 11 months ago
@carhart001 yeah he didnt had a choice he had to land because at lukla you cant stop you landing maneuver
Pietiman 10 months ago
someone I know returned from there and she told me to not take this flight. She told me to hike into Lukla because it was too dangerous to fly.
frmertd 11 months ago
@frmertd Are you fucking dora the explorer? I wish I had the opportunity to go to amazing places such as Lukla...
IPlayInBeastMode 10 months ago
@IPlayInBeastMode i wish! have you seen that one where she is wearing the blue dress and running around in the garden with DIego. Man I want her.
frmertd 10 months ago
@frmertd
I flew into Lukla 2 years ago, it's a tricky landing for sure but there are 10-15 flights a day going in and out. They don't fly when the weather is bad. I was stuck in Lukla for 3 days because of weather.
This pilot was unlucky, the cloud comes from the valley very quickly. It only take a minute or 2.
It's certainly not as bad as your friend makes out.
fraserfresher 9 months ago
you know...THANK GOD this place was shut down...imagine the kinds of casualties wed get from keeping this airport?!?!?
wazzap496 11 months ago
@wazzap496 its not shut down! still going and running.
kateberry118 11 months ago
@wazzap496 this place is still there and the AIRPORT still takes more than 10 flights a day......
SijanChyangba 10 months ago
If you can't see the runway, don't land!!
EEN9B 11 months ago 2
This airport should be shut down. why do we need to have a dangerous airport?
TripleKanwar 11 months ago
@TripleKanwar cause then people wouldn't be able to climb the Eight Thousanders
shidoski 11 months ago 2
@TripleKanwar and it makes supplying the people living there alot easier and safer then running trains of people up there.
Pkarchpray16 11 months ago
This is really sad
TripleKanwar 11 months ago
Do any pilots here know how close the clouds were to the runways end/beginning? They seem to be right at the cliff's edge, which would seem to make this a CAT III approach, right? I'm instrument rated but know little about airline approach procedures. Do small regional-type airplanes have CAT III capability?
jesusisbetter 1 year ago
yes looks like they are right on the cliff edge, so visability less than 200 m would make this a CAT III B with virtually no decision height. However Lukla airport has not ILS equipment. I think there is VOR/DME and NDB avaliable, but at these metrological conditions it definatley should have been a go aroud and wait for better weather. Or go to reserve airport. But I guess there was no option but try a landing. Most small regional planes have CAT II, but can be upgraded to CAT III A.
contemporarymonk 1 year ago
@contemporarymonk you can't do a TOGA at Lukla because there is a huge mountain on the other side that is impossible to out climb not only due to the height of the mountain but also because your engine cannot perform very well at that altitude due to low oxygen levels
shidoski 11 months ago
@jesusisbetter As far as I know, there aren't any landing aids, no lights, no ILS, so all approaches must be IFR. And seeing as this would most likely be a CAT III C landing condition and there aren't any CAT III C systems operating in the world, I don't think these aircraft would have them either.
Hadleton 4 months ago
@Hadleton
If there are no aids like ILS the approaches are not executed according to IFR but VFR.
flyer203 4 months ago
@flyer203 That's what I meant, not IFR, but VFR
Hadleton 4 months ago
Everyone has the right to stupidity.And these guys were caught up in it at the wrong time.But the people who actually abuse the privelege to having the right to stupidity is commenting on youtube saying how your grandma could land that plane safely.
Lvieru96 1 year ago
why the fuck the person turn the cam off???? he could've filmed the rescue!
bombardierdude15 1 year ago
@bombardierdude15 That was a cliff, the plane, and everyone else inside of it would have fallen probably close to a thousand feet total. by the way the weather looks, it looks like if he would have kept filming you wouldnt have seen anything. but i do think he should have kept filming though
MrMusicalLyrics 1 year ago
@bombardierdude15 ...... lol
J4M3SPR 1 year ago
@bombardierdude15 do you think a rescue could have been possible at the edge of a cliff??
addi138 1 year ago
was the accident during landing ?
33GeoStef33 1 year ago
@33GeoStef33 Yes. Lukla is notoriously difficult for landing. Depending on the time of year, it isn't unusual to wait several hours, even days, for a flight in or out of Lukla.
ProbableFiction 1 year ago
No wonder there was a crash. It's the second smallest runway in the world!!!
poplglop 1 year ago
Where is the crash then?
Theohcysp 1 year ago
@bronco8585 Right on man!!!!!!!!!
boatmainiac42 1 year ago
OMG,,,,:(
71025384 1 year ago
His friends were in that plain. Would u keep filming?
juna2509 1 year ago 4
Nearly every crash or disaster footage I see (I know ..I'm sad!).... Why does the cameraman drop the camera down at the moment of the most interesting part of the film?
cashman156 1 year ago
@cashman156 I've been wondering about the same thing. maybe they're just too shocked to be able to hold the camera. i know it happens every time. pisses me off so bad.
Yperanthropoidsx 1 year ago
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rohima1123 1 year ago 9
Worst cinematographer in the world. You move the camera to avoid showing what everyone wants to see (which is what you titled the video). Why did you bother uploading it? For that you get a thumbs down from me. Get off YouTube!
n40798 1 year ago
das war bestimmt schlimm^^
Paatrick1997 1 year ago
Lukla Airport is most dangerous airport in Nepal. There are frequently many airplanes are crashed. To going Kathmandu to Lukla in October season people waits about a week to go there because of weather and other problems.
Please find other option to go Lukla or use another airport Lamidanda,Phaplu, Kangel and propose airport Mamare Jubu.
@sherpaworld d c
sherpaw 1 year ago
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that was no crash i lite a fart on fire
Jvergakis 1 year ago
very danger
ashrarai1 1 year ago
Why wouldnt you put lights on the runway?
aerosnout 1 year ago
@aerosnout what you mean is an ILS or something like that... Good question. But these systems are expensive...
bronco8585 1 year ago
Brilliant Post and Filming. just got done with another one: "Nasty crash of Twin Otter- British Colombia. makes you watch first 2 whole minutes of just the airplane Taxiing and Runup. yeah, viewers wanna watch all that........then, unlike here, just as described, the goddamn Plane Tips a wing at Vr, and......crashes. what does the Moron Camera Operator do the second this starts to happen? let's his Fuckin' Camera Point straight down to the ground....what is with YouTube Idiots?
drumdude46 1 year ago
The pilot was not at fault. The river is the point of no return. After you cross the river you have no choice but to land, the terrain does not allow a go around.
deniasol 1 year ago
@deniasol If that were so, anyone flying to Syangboche would automatically crash into a mountain... Fact is, the river runs the length of the valley, that cloud burst should have been apparent long before turning onto final. The Pilot could either have headed for Syangboche or, not entered the valley in the first place.
Tomosan2888 1 year ago
@Tomosan2888 From what I have read the clouds formed suddenly, a phenomenon not uncommon to Lukla. Shortly before the crash two twotters landed without problems.
deniasol 1 year ago
@deniasol Pilots flew through cloud, could not see runway, tried to land anyway, crashed and killed everyone except the Captain. CFIT. CAAN official stated "The crew made incorrect judgment of information on deteriorating weather condition and flew the aircraft into a patch of cloud." end of
Tomosan2888 1 year ago
Gee i hate that, as soon as something bad happens everyone turns off their cameras.
BarossaValleyMan 1 year ago
theres old pilots and theres bold pilots but no old bold pilots. pilot was stupid. too bad he had to take a bunch of people with him
straighttailpilot 1 year ago
thats cloud ..
whatstheprob1932 1 year ago
A crash happened....and he turns off the fucking camera....sry but that is stupid -.-"
Nackduck 1 year ago 2
@Nackduck You idiot. It's people like you that are stupid. He stops filming because he's using common sense. GO HELP SOMEBODY!!!
bronco8585 1 year ago
@bronco8585
OMG kiddy....that´s always the same...they turn off the camera but they don´t help ;) always the same.....And don´t tell me you would run across the runway and help the people......pls stfu...u are not even better,.....ah yeah...stupid you ;)
Nackduck 1 year ago
@Nackduck well... its not a big airport.. there is no EMS or Fire department or heavy police personnel there... all there are is people, bystanders, probably some airport staff... if i was there of course id run to the end of th runway to try n help, its not a very long runway either... even if i couldn't help them id run there just outta shear curiosity...
suwanshree 1 year ago
@Nackduck Always the same? You are immature and unrealistic. YOU are the only one who would stand there and pick your nose. You need to get a life. You talk, but your words are loud and hollow. Anyone could see through you.
bronco8585 1 year ago
@bronco8585
I have no life? then tell me how can I write with you :)
Idiot...u just don´t understand what I want to say...anyway stfu afum.......I don´t care what u guys are saying......I stop reading this stupid texts cause I got a real life ;) 12 year old boy
Nackduck 1 year ago
@Nackduck I know your type. You're a coward in real life. Have no accurate perceptions and are removed from reality. Like I said: get off the internet and get a life. I hate to say this but you need to experience some hard times to humble you. That is the cure for people like you.
Best Wishes Nackduck
bronco8585 1 year ago
@bronco8585
You know my type? just cause I´m writting a text? stupid you hahaha.....Get A life PLLLEEAASSSEE......just because someone is writting something you think u know him....how stupid how stupid xD xD xD xD xD OMG.....kiddyland....bye bye have a good life.....
Nackduck 1 year ago
@Nackduck germans 4 u
xboxlivegstar11 1 year ago
@Nackduck stopp at 0:13 you´ll see fire at the right
bmwthebestofworld 1 year ago
@bmwthebestofworld
I saw it before...and now?
Nackduck 1 year ago
@Nackduck maybe he had loved ones on the plane, if that's the case he probably dropped the camera never mind turned it off, Why you think it's stupid of him is beyond me and the fact that you have 17 thumbs up for your comment escapes me even more!
daveni2 1 year ago 39
@daveni2 a billion thumbs up for this comment
jmillski1 1 year ago
@daveni2 Almost all people drop the camera down when they film an unexpected incident. This is because of the almost irresistible urge to see the unfolding action directly with one's own eye rather than through the camera lens or screen. Only professional cameramen suppress this urge and keep filming.
ryanhaart 6 months ago
@ryanhaart I agree, this was a reply to an old comment, Someone thought the guy was an idiot to have stopped filming. Like I said he probably dropped the camera in shock, the last thing on his mind would have been to continue capturing it.
daveni2 6 months ago
@daveni2 dont forget his username NACKDUCK?
flightsimtelevision 5 months ago
@Nackduck You make me sick dude. If you see an accident you threw your camera out and run with help ASAP, not stay and enjoy.
That's how we do it in Europe (I hear german in background), and - no offence - that's how it should be done. Life is more important than a fucking video footage.
MichuNeo 1 year ago 22
@MichuNeo yep i accept i wish i could see more footage, but the reality is that after such a thing it makes much more sence go and provide help, it is kind of funny how nackduck comment has a lot of thumbs up instead one like yours. That sucks.
Arkthurius 1 year ago 3
@MichuNeo you cant go run and help them because you would get arrested for entering a restricted area. i work on the ramp in YQR and even we cant go and help if there is a crash. if you got to the crash site what would you do besides be in the way of the emergency crew?
HondaEPHatch 1 year ago
@HondaEPHatch Actually the locals here walk across this runway...it isn't fenced off. They sound a siren when a plane is incoming so the locals can get out of the way. They talk about this on the History Channels coverage of the 10 most dangerous airports in the world...and this one ranks #1. After the crash, locals DID run to the crash site but could not do anything to help...fire enveloped the plane. I guess the pilot's body came to rest outside the inferno, and he lived.
osurlosers 1 year ago
@MichuNeo surely a german, "scheiBe" (pronounced: Scheisse)
frosssitv 4 months ago
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I think the pilot was thinking,
Ohh fuck i missed.... XD
Menyboyxx 1 year ago
@Menyboyxx very funny.
kaesich0070 1 year ago