They were planning to make Jowan a party member. When arl eamon is revived the people who made the game were going to make the warden conscript Jowan but i don't know why they didn't it says on the wiki.
I initially played DAO as a mage and I have gone through this scene and I felt bad for him. Then I decided to start a new game as a warrior (which went longer) and was really annoyed at Jowan because he was the one who *SPOLIER* poisoned the Arl of Eamon.
He was originally meant to be a party member. What really ticked me off was when you meet the blood mage lady in the tower later on, and it gives you the dialogue option to recruit her ... and she's never seen again.
And before this I actually thought of him as a good friend. I couldn't believe that he was a blood mage and that he lied. Then, I became a blood mage and raped every single darkspawn I saw with Blood Wound. IT WAS AWESOME.
When you meet him in Redcliffe, tell him to leave and that you never want to see him again.
He'll run off.
A little later, you get a chanter's board quest to hunt down everyone's favorite bloodmage. Once you actually find him, you can either kill him or let him go.
When you meet him in Redcliffe, tell him to leave and that you never want to see him again.
He'll run off.
A little later, you get a chanter's board quest to hunt down everyone's favorite bloodmage. Once you actually find him, you can either kill him or let him go.
@timmyisthefly during the urn of sacred ashes quest agree to kolgrims request to taint the sacred ashes with dragons blood then boom you drink some dragons blood and congrats your a reaver.
@MetallicPower45 Really? Can i turn alister into one of em? And does it change your appearance or what moves? BTW I am a mage... Soooo yeah i cant really do that XD thank god im just in the middle of that quest. Hey bud can u please tell me where to find the sacred ashes? I diden't pay attention XD
@timmyisthefly its part of the main storyline quest and no its doesnt effect your appearance but it gives you moves like life suck and just moves that steal HP and Mana its pretty badass
jowan is powerful i wish he could be a party member...i think it would make more sense if jowan teaches you the blood mage class unstead of the demon.
@cuzzo820 Jowan was meant to be a party member very early in development, but it was scrapped. He probably would have taught you blood magic instead of the demon in Connor.
I felt awful for Jowan. I mean, come on! The most you could do for him was to leave him to the Templars? I wanted to give him a hug, tell him everything would be okay, and kill every Templar that threatened him. Poor guy.
Most comments say"blood mages ftw,i want to become a blood mage"etc.My opinion is that evil magic such as blood magic should not be used..I for example,didn't deal with that desire demon and I'm a normal mage now..and I have no problems with my power untill now..but maybe,when I'll fight the Arch Demon,I will knwo if I lack offense..for now,things are pretty easy.Anyway,as I was saying,I've tried to avoid blood magic until now and I've regained the Circle's trust,but all this is just my opinion.
@Gokuisthebest312 Blood magic is a means to an end. What a mage does with blood magic makes it good or evil. I think using blood magic on innocent people to augment your own abilities is evil but using blood magic to protect a loved one or to defend against darkspawn is not.
In the concept stage of the game you could use The Right of Conscription to recruit Jowan as a Grey Warden and a party member, but it was scrapped early in development :(.
It sucks how they decided not to have Jowan as a full companion. He won some cool points in my book when he owned everyone here. I instantly decided to be a bloodmage because of this.
@batista777 That was a MAJOR plot hole. The Knight-Commander, the First Enchanter, AND two other templars all stunned by a mage who didn't even pass his harrowing test?! That would have been an epic fight for a full party just to take down Griegor and Irving, not to mention the other two templars.
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there is no possible way that you can be a blood mage in this game, sorry. however, at certain points in the game, you can agree to let other charaters use blood magic.
running into jowan on my mage play through was damn FUN. I helped him in the beginning, saved him at redcliff but he chose to redeem himself, i tried to get the Arl to release him, i even made jowan kill the desire demon to save connor.... BUT STILL they turned him over, all i can say is that i hope he lives in dragon age 2
its good being a blood mage, during my mage playthrough i made a deal wiv the demon n obtained blood magic, it turned out pretty usful with arcane warrior specialisation
@darkHALO1000 Would be nice. Especially in my eyes, he redeemed himself. He just came across as a guy who good intentions but kept making mistakes but meant well. I let him go in hopes that'll he will find peace and do good. Then again, I was a blood mage too so I can't really say much...
God, this game is perfect.
This one scene is better than anything in DA II.
opiumsick 3 days ago
I love Gregoir's rage
Vampirvork 1 week ago
They were planning to make Jowan a party member. When arl eamon is revived the people who made the game were going to make the warden conscript Jowan but i don't know why they didn't it says on the wiki.
ChipAssassin1 4 weeks ago
I hope he comes back in Dragon Age 3.
cripplehawk 5 months ago
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Greagoir u mad bro
ARavingLooony 5 months ago
Greagoir u mad bro
ARavingLooony 5 months ago
those templars got bloodrocuted
Runningtail 5 months ago
u can have a alternate way by actually talking to erwyn when jowan tells you his plan.
allof8death 7 months ago
I initially played DAO as a mage and I have gone through this scene and I felt bad for him. Then I decided to start a new game as a warrior (which went longer) and was really annoyed at Jowan because he was the one who *SPOLIER* poisoned the Arl of Eamon.
bacchamae 8 months ago
how the hell did he even "escape" isn't there more guards by the entrance and the place surrounded by a freakin lake?
FIRETHEMOO 8 months ago
blood magic looks painful
MrLagvag 8 months ago
He was originally meant to be a party member. What really ticked me off was when you meet the blood mage lady in the tower later on, and it gives you the dialogue option to recruit her ... and she's never seen again.
Mike62075 9 months ago
@Mike62075 I know i tried looking up stuff on how to get her so far i been seeing nothing.
Xxandrew01 2 months ago
Admit it, they should have had Jowan as a party member and made his side-quest breaking Lily out of Aeonar. It would have been AWESOME.
Falor5151 10 months ago 17
@Falor5151 There's a mod that allows you to do all that... but Lily is still a fat cow :P, you get to romance Jowan with this mod too :D
Hekil79 1 month ago
@Falor5151 my hope is for DRAGON AGE 3
hope Jowan comes back as party member :D
Vampirvork 1 week ago
Hah, I'm the first enchanter's little lapdog. I told him of the plan, we're best bros now.
c0mbineelite 11 months ago 8
Jowan was meant to be a party member :( I'm sad he didn't make it.
dragonballmarcus 11 months ago 4
Jowan was pretty badass back there...
metallicust 11 months ago
Am I the only one who thinks Jowan is annoying ?
When he wanted me to help him in The Circle of Magi, I thought "This is going to screw me over, right?" and it did.
Blunka796 1 year ago
And before this I actually thought of him as a good friend. I couldn't believe that he was a blood mage and that he lied. Then, I became a blood mage and raped every single darkspawn I saw with Blood Wound. IT WAS AWESOME.
stoweawy 1 year ago 7
Is there any way to save jowan from death or tranquility? I feel so sorry for him.
ensittare 1 year ago 2
@ensittare Later on in the story, you can help him escape the Chantry.
LobselVith8 1 year ago
@ensittare
When you meet him in Redcliffe, tell him to leave and that you never want to see him again.
He'll run off.
A little later, you get a chanter's board quest to hunt down everyone's favorite bloodmage. Once you actually find him, you can either kill him or let him go.
NBluth 1 year ago
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@ensittare
When you meet him in Redcliffe, tell him to leave and that you never want to see him again.
He'll run off.
A little later, you get a chanter's board quest to hunt down everyone's favorite bloodmage. Once you actually find him, you can either kill him or let him go.
NBluth 1 year ago
I love how your PC just stands there like, "Oh look, blood magic. :| "
lettuce246 1 year ago
Jowan sounds like sissy-bitch but when he attacks he looks badass... Weird Character
Beldinoob 1 year ago
my love morrigan is a Blood Mage and i am a Human Noble evil Reaver we were meant for each other
MetallicPower45 1 year ago
@MetallicPower45 Reavers? those guys sound awsome how do you become them?
timmyisthefly 1 year ago
@timmyisthefly during the urn of sacred ashes quest agree to kolgrims request to taint the sacred ashes with dragons blood then boom you drink some dragons blood and congrats your a reaver.
MetallicPower45 1 year ago
@MetallicPower45 Really? Can i turn alister into one of em? And does it change your appearance or what moves? BTW I am a mage... Soooo yeah i cant really do that XD thank god im just in the middle of that quest. Hey bud can u please tell me where to find the sacred ashes? I diden't pay attention XD
timmyisthefly 1 year ago
@timmyisthefly its part of the main storyline quest and no its doesnt effect your appearance but it gives you moves like life suck and just moves that steal HP and Mana its pretty badass
MetallicPower45 1 year ago
@MetallicPower45 Thats kickaaaaassss So what do i do to find the urn? And can mages become em or can i start a new story and make a reaver as main?
timmyisthefly 1 year ago
i love the sound effects of blood magic it just seems too cool
LordXenocide 1 year ago
Did you take anything from the repository, such as the staff on your back?
Nope
Okay I believe you.
Katorskay 1 year ago 38
I betrayed Jowan because i hated Lily...but now I realise he's gonna fuck me up later in the game D:
NeyoScooter 1 year ago
anyone knows the names of all the recruitable characters? please tell
TheSsebasstian 1 year ago
anybody know what happens when you betray jowan and meet him later in the game?
arelius536 1 year ago
jowan is powerful i wish he could be a party member...i think it would make more sense if jowan teaches you the blood mage class unstead of the demon.
cuzzo820 1 year ago
@cuzzo820 Jowan was meant to be a party member very early in development, but it was scrapped. He probably would have taught you blood magic instead of the demon in Connor.
JaggedMastermind 1 year ago
@JaggedMastermind he was?..never knew that why did they get rid og him?
cuzzo820 1 year ago
I felt awful for Jowan. I mean, come on! The most you could do for him was to leave him to the Templars? I wanted to give him a hug, tell him everything would be okay, and kill every Templar that threatened him. Poor guy.
SomeonewhoisFrench 1 year ago 9
If anyone likes blood magic,they're free to use it....it's said to have more power than normal magic,after all
Gokuisthebest312 1 year ago
Most comments say"blood mages ftw,i want to become a blood mage"etc.My opinion is that evil magic such as blood magic should not be used..I for example,didn't deal with that desire demon and I'm a normal mage now..and I have no problems with my power untill now..but maybe,when I'll fight the Arch Demon,I will knwo if I lack offense..for now,things are pretty easy.Anyway,as I was saying,I've tried to avoid blood magic until now and I've regained the Circle's trust,but all this is just my opinion.
Gokuisthebest312 1 year ago
@Gokuisthebest312 Blood magic is a means to an end. What a mage does with blood magic makes it good or evil. I think using blood magic on innocent people to augment your own abilities is evil but using blood magic to protect a loved one or to defend against darkspawn is not.
internettrollsunited 1 year ago
In the concept stage of the game you could use The Right of Conscription to recruit Jowan as a Grey Warden and a party member, but it was scrapped early in development :(.
megaepicexplosion 1 year ago
yes i stole this staff that is now on my back infront of your eyes old man
conokai 1 year ago
jowans strong when you play with him in the fade
dragonballgtrocks 1 year ago
It sucks how they decided not to have Jowan as a full companion. He won some cool points in my book when he owned everyone here. I instantly decided to be a bloodmage because of this.
batista777 1 year ago
@batista777 That was a MAJOR plot hole. The Knight-Commander, the First Enchanter, AND two other templars all stunned by a mage who didn't even pass his harrowing test?! That would have been an epic fight for a full party just to take down Griegor and Irving, not to mention the other two templars.
Nonamearisto 1 year ago
@batista777 just some? he maxed out two categories of cool with me, sheer power and cool battle line
aaron75fy 1 year ago
Notice at 4:08 Lily is behind high enchanter even after was escorteded out.
90dancingmurlocs 1 year ago
blood magic look painfull
bobbymay2509 1 year ago 3
i fuckin freaked out when i saw this, i thought he killed everyone
Yip1991 1 year ago
POWWA!
DarkLordOfWanders 1 year ago
JOWANS EMO!!!
copsvshippys 2 years ago
i feel sorry for jowan :(
Greagoir is hilarious =)
ensittare 2 years ago
'i dnt know who u r blood mage, stay away from me'
i was like...well aint tht a bitch.
Divine009 2 years ago 7
did she say by the nigger? and can u be blood mage besides getting it from the demon?
yaktr12 2 years ago
u can unlock blood mage at conners demon in the fade... that demon is so fucking hot i would bang the shit out of her
shitsweak89 2 years ago 4
I hope they make a sequel to this epic game!
ShadowLinkk666 2 years ago
Dragon age Awakening ? , it's a 15h DLC it'll be released at March 16 i think
XmenyX666 2 years ago
its actually an expansion
NintendoBengan 2 years ago
how I can get jowan to be my partner?
Zeta439 2 years ago
@Zeta439 he is not a recruitable character.. sadly ;/
Yushis99 2 years ago
wow all he has to do to take all of them down is stab himself that's nice i hope i can become a bloodmage.
rpsyco 2 years ago
Uuhhh....I dabbled!
IAMTEHSPY 2 years ago 5
Blood magic is cool
Hulkmania316 2 years ago 6
can u get him as a partner?
partyinmyshirt09 2 years ago
Only for a very short period. He was planned to be a full-fledged companion (I wish they had) but they cut it.
ObsTheGreat 2 years ago
nope
naruto8716 2 years ago
@partyinmyshirt09
No, chek the official Dragon age site, you can see al the Partymembers you can get.
sixwing8 2 years ago
NO! *stabs hand*
vampirdog19 2 years ago
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Do you think Jowan's a little emo? HEHEHE
seraphilight 2 years ago
I dabbled~ *innocent face*
Wtf?!
FallenWolfTenshi 2 years ago 5
i wanna be a blood mage!
TYOjoe 2 years ago
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there is no possible way that you can be a blood mage in this game, sorry. however, at certain points in the game, you can agree to let other charaters use blood magic.
melistentodeathmetal 2 years ago
@melistentodeathmetal are you retarded? i became a blood mage already....dipshit
TYOjoe 2 years ago
how??
naruto8716 2 years ago
@melistentodeathmetal Lies, you can be a blood mage.
XxGlassxVioletxX 2 years ago
loses it, not looses
heyheysg2000 2 years ago
Man, I wish that Jowan could've been a party member.
ComradeEvanski 2 years ago 80
he looked man strong too, and his story was kinda sad
dawatchng 2 years ago 45
@dawatchng He used forbidden magic!!!
timmyisthefly 1 year ago
@ComradeEvanski he original was going to be,u could use the right of conscription to free him fro redcliff but they cut it out
StraightEdgeSkaterr 1 year ago
@ComradeEvanski I'm sure there will be DLC to make him one.
MiRyRE 1 year ago
@MiRyRE hope so (maybe link to the mage story, would be funny if he became conscripted and survives the joining)
aaron75fy 1 year ago
@MiRyRE Fingers crossed.
ComradeEvanski 1 year ago
@ComradeEvanski Damn, it turns out he was going to be a full party member but got cut early in the development.
MiRyRE 1 year ago
@MiRyRE Worst move they ever made 8[
ComradeEvanski 1 year ago
1:13 i creamed myself
leifdarkwood 2 years ago
god so did i
ComradeEvanski 2 years ago
AS did i
oshinigwa 2 years ago
running into jowan on my mage play through was damn FUN. I helped him in the beginning, saved him at redcliff but he chose to redeem himself, i tried to get the Arl to release him, i even made jowan kill the desire demon to save connor.... BUT STILL they turned him over, all i can say is that i hope he lives in dragon age 2
mohedd 2 years ago 5
I raped a desire demon:P
Raphregade 2 years ago 6
thats hot lol
UnchargedDaniel 2 years ago
blood magic is badass lol
sniper321w 2 years ago
its good being a blood mage, during my mage playthrough i made a deal wiv the demon n obtained blood magic, it turned out pretty usful with arcane warrior specialisation
StephenG7 2 years ago
Dude... Blood mages ftw... Desire demons are hot.. Wait.. Did i say that >.>
Gamelover9966 2 years ago 4
It's a shame you never bump into him again if you let him go.
SelejX 2 years ago 4
they should at least make a quest where you run into him again, or kill him. that sucks
darkHALO1000 2 years ago
@darkHALO1000 Would be nice. Especially in my eyes, he redeemed himself. He just came across as a guy who good intentions but kept making mistakes but meant well. I let him go in hopes that'll he will find peace and do good. Then again, I was a blood mage too so I can't really say much...
SelejX 2 years ago 4
Well i actually bump into him at Redcliffe castle...
xiaolee92 2 years ago
@SelejX Jowan might be back in the expansion set of dragon age.
softwaremediaguru 2 years ago 2
Jowan, although a bit of a clod, is pretty badass.
Floodian 2 years ago 6
Jowan is cool, but damn hes not a playable character
aaRulas 2 years ago 6
He is later playable for a small part of the quest of freeing conner.
kalisala 2 years ago 3
Thats fucking badass
Dragythedrag 2 years ago 3