im sorry but this is utter bullshit do you seriosuly thing someone with a brain would punch some one in that manner so that he can get knocked out?!? this video is a teacher with and student giving him instructions on how to hit! im not hating Though dont get me wrong.
I had to stop mid-way, this is NOT wing chun, I should have know, anytime I watch a Ving Tsun video, it's always a sloppy version of wing chun, more boxing than anything, I couldn't even identify any of these "techniques" as wing chun, Leung ting sure ruined the system! Anytime something says "Ving Tsun", instead of Wing Chun, stay away from it!!
@NRock2404 to be honest I think it shows a more modern way of wing chun, and adapted one, since it was made to counter martial arts that people don't use anymore. I see it as a wingchun form adapted to the new arts (including boxing, much more common nowadays) and how to counter them, making it a really good adaptation and evolution of an art.
@SnakePIissken You mean Wing Tsun, Ving Tsun is the Wong Shun Leung lineage.
To give my opinion away, i have trained both WT and VT and i have to say VT is more strict about the rules - which is, it stays true to the traditional Kung-Fu style, but WT is rougher - it teaches you more deadly techniques. In the end, it all depends what you want but the truth is, it doesn't matter which system you follow - what does matters is that you understand and follow the spirit of WC.
Why is it that in demonstrations they always assume that the opponent is a complete simpleton who just flails his arms around? This shit won't work in real life when someone kicks you from behind and stabs your kidneys so don't bother commenting on on these vids.
but you are commenting on this vids, do you? THis is a demo, i personally know Victor in RL, and I can ensure you: do not even try to approach to him from behind. He is really, really, really good, an awesome fighter, and this is just a simple and slowly demo.
sieht aus, als versuche sich ein wt mann im cadena boxen, wenn ihr sehen wollt, wie sowas wirklich geht, auch im sparring, seht euch ucc hamburg an...
@rokluser und genau deswegen haben die auch nix drauf, ich unterrichte selber polizisten und soldaten und bin oft entsetzt, über den mist, der denen beigebracht wurde. Leider hat das unterrichten der spezialkräfte in diesem land weniger was mit wirklichem können, als vielmehr mit vitamin b zu tun-und im sich verkaufen sind die wt leute unschlagbar-aber eben auch nur dadrin...
@jomushin7 Sure - but as I said, mile-long? There are those attackers, but not all do that. The time, when most people had no idea offighting, is over. This must not be forgotten. And if you say, that "street punchers" are idiots, this shows, that you underestimate your opponent and you're too confident. Some people practice a martial art in order to suppress the weak - and these people know what they are doing. And then, the situation is quite different.
-1st pak was weak, that punch could've slipped right in, n he wasnt even punching all the way to the target. -2nd, bong, his structure raises and leans = bad. Elbow looks pretty sweet as he recovers his structure at the same time as landing it.
-1st pak was weak, that punch could've slipped right in, n he wasnt even punching all the way to the target. -2nd, bong, his structure raises and leans = bad. Elbow looks pretty sweet as he recovers his structure at the same time as landing it.
Esto no quiere decir que yo le quiera faltar el respeto a nadie. Respeto mucho a cualquier profesional de la materia, y mas a los que tienen el valor de competir con los mejores atletas del Mundo en el UFC. Todos los estilos tienen ventajas y desventajas, pero todos han aportado a la evolucion de las artes marciales.
Practique 7 años este estilo y no tengo titulación alguna, y no me interesan. He conocido a grandes maestros en diferentes disciplinas que han consagrado su vida a las artes marciales, y todos entienden que es un gran estilo de Kung Fu, con alto carácter científico.
Es muy distinto un combate en la calle, que un evento deportivo.
No importa cuánto kung fu sepas, siempre hay alguien que sabe más que tu. Dice un viejo refrán chino
Hay grandes sistemas en todo el mundo, y grandes atletas, yo amo el UFC, me gusta mucho el Mua Thai, el Kick Boxing, el Judo, el Boxeo, el Kali, etc. Del wing Shun me gusta, que es un concepto marcial que agrupa en un solo espacio tiempo los tres fundamentos más importantes de las artes marciales.
No ha parado de evolucionar constantemente. Es todo.
@hitter1 What? Demonstrating how you can't fight anyone with actual skill or else the technique doesn't work? I wanna see some actual WC, cause all i see is demonstrations on here, and no ACTUAL application.
If this masters never share there knowledge you people wont ever know what wing chun really is or any martial arts be it JKD/WC/BJJ boxing filipino martial arts etc. anything I bet you guyz will regret back bitting great instructors and masters. Remeber This knowledge you have gotten came free This particular Video under budo is very expensive just like the gracie tapes and fights that come from UFC. Show respect to all this Instructors and masters (peace)
El Wing Shun es un arte marcial totalmente científico. Lo que sucede con el es igual que en todos los deportes, Hay estrellas y mediocres... Como todo. Grandes maestros del mundo lo reconocen y lo aprecian. Para mi es lo máximo. Por supuesto estos videos son demostrativos no pueden ser reales porque harían extremo daño al oponente y nadie podría entrenar.
Una cosa es deportes de exhibición y otro es arte marcial real.
@herickdeharo Necesitas evidencia comprobable para sustentar eso, si te gusta el WT todo bien, a mi me gusta tambien. Pero de ahi a decir que es 100% cientifico, me parece que mandas fruta viejo, no se para que comparar los deportes con el AAMM si se sabe desde el vamos que no tienen mucho que ver. Para decir que es lo maximo, fijate primero tu curriculo marcial, por cuantas AAMM pasastes antes de fanatizarte con el WT. Hay estilos vistosos que son efectivos, el Shaolin por nombrar uno.
El Wing Shun es un arte marcial totalmente científico. Lo que sucede con el es igual que en todos los deportes, Hay estrellas y mediocres... Como todo. Grandes maestros del mundo lo reconocen y lo aprecian. Para mi es lo máximo. Por supuesto estos videos son demostrativos no pueden ser reales porque harían extremo daño al oponente y nadie podría entrenar.
Una cosa es deportes de exhibición y otro es arte marcial real.
El wing Shun es un arte marcial totalmente cientifico. Lo que sucede con el es igual que en todos los deportes, Hay extrellas y mediocres... Como todo. Grandes maestros del mundo lo reconocen y lo aprecian. Para mi es lo maximo. Por supuesto estos videos son demostrativos no pueden ser reales porque harian extremo daño al oponente y nadie podria entrenar.
Una cosa es deportes de exibicion y otro es arte marcial real
El wing Shun es un arte marcial totalmente cientifico. Lo que sucede con el es igual que en todos los deportes, Hay extrellas y mediocres... Como todo. Grandes maestros del mundo lo reconocen y lo aprecian. Para mi es lo maximo
....y por otro lado...Eso de que a un boxeador le pegas y no lo nota, ¡venga ya..! Si le das una caricia, a lo mejor no, pero una avalancha de golpes en la cara o donde sea, vamos a ver si lo nota un boxeador o quien sea. Y desde luego que van tapados y cubiertos, precisamente el Wing Chun esta especializado en "atrapar" brazos y es muy facil atrapar a alquien que está cubierto como un boxador. Asi que al final, me parece que cada uno tira y critica para lo que le interesa
....por lo tanto, habrá personas que se pongan a estudiar Wing Chun y les irá fenomenal y descubrirán que es su arte marcial y a otros, les dejará impasibles y preferirán otras coas. Asi que dependerá de el individuo, porque cada persona es un mundo. En cualquier caso, visto desde un punto de vista objetivo y viendo como funciona en general la efectividad del Wing Chun, creo que a estas alturas es evidente como funciona
Bueno. Está claro que cada uno saca sus conclusiones. Yo estuve en el primer cursillo que hicieron los hermanos Gutierrez y había opiniones para todos los gustos. Desde los que decían que era alucinante, hasta los que no les gustó en absoluto. A mi no me pareció "Inutil" en absoluto, pero lo que está claro es que cada persona tiene una percepción distinta de las cosas y que a uno se le puede dar mejor los atrapes que a otro, igual que a otros se les puede dar mucho mejor las llaves a unos....
Yo hice Karate durante 10 años y la verdad es que me gustó bastante (mi padre es sensei). Después hice Aikido y como defensa personal es una pasada pero terminé molido con las muñecas "bonicas del todo".
Ahora después de 8 años sin prácticar ningún arte marcial, me encantaría practicar Wing Tsun (desde pequeño me tragué todas las peliculas de Bruce Lee xD) y ésto viene porque vi Ip Man, la historia del maestro de Bruce Lee y donde vivo, no se donde hay una escuela para aprender D:
WING TSUN NOT IS FOR LITTLE PERSONS , WING TSUN NO ES PARA GENTE PEQUEÑA , . SI PELEAS CON ALGUIEN MAS GRANDE QUE SEPA EL ESTILO TU ERES HOMBRE MUERTO
hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha WOW! I'm gonna go test out my new skills by going to sign up for the local fights!! hahahahahahahahaha
you are a joke and should never be able to teach the shit u have shown on this video you are the kind of person that gives all art forms a bad name get a life
oky if the apponent tries to get up after you get them down trust me your instict will tell you not to let them up, after all your movements and your actions could save you getting a knife in the throat or the head or body,, so where can i join i need it to be safe on the streets and only for a defence purpose
unfortunatly i come from a rough place in scotland no guns but there is street fighting stabbing and you can easily be out numbered from time to time but trust me, there are only thew that can fight , plus i was told that it is one of the best deffence strategys against street fights, can also keep a thew when occupied when fighting trust me use energy well and exercise your muscles and wing style could have you out of trouble in no time
@constableman Martialarts in generel can only attempt to approach realistic fight situation. You can't expect people to break their bones and noses every week just to train to avoid it. That would be very stupid. That is why such demonstrationvideos can never show realfight. Show me one video in youtube which shows that kind of video. btw i spared with this guy. He is good. better than in this outdated video
You must see him with the new sistem and "live". He's great. I see him beat a guy who looks like a bodygard and karate 3th dan. This videos are only demostration of WT techniques. Tha's all.
Imagine it more as a demo and not so much as an instructional video. He developed branch of effective street styles that sub-branch from Wing Tsun. Students learn it in Wing Tsun classes now. Thats what I like about WT aswell, it is beeing constantly improved.
i make Wing Tsun for about 1 and a half years, i tried it a few times against my sifu (over 20years of WT) to give him one single punch but i have still have absolute no chance to get him. When he would want he could kill me in a few seconds and i think im not a bad fighter when i had to. And i know that my sifu have no chance against sifu gutierrez. And he have no chance against GM Kernspecht. Thats true!
I must completely agree with you, this video is BIG BULLSHIT for people which never had real confilct. If somebody really believe that is posible put somebody on the ground like on the video (and this somebody is not girls), please contact nearest club of WT for money spending.
@wxw11 you're full of it lol,i know people who do wing tsun..theres no chance u can touch them in a street fight,i guess u must be from a diff style and thats why u hating,wing tsun is one of the best if not the best martial art for real life situations..people like u are scared to leave the house after 8pm why even bother talking about real life self defence.
You are correct, that I am learining difirent style, and you are not correct that I am afraid leave home after 8pm, but good try for a joke... Maybe during EWTO brainwashing could be funny. I lernt wing tsun with EWTO and after I changed school due to my moving to new job. In my new school (but for now almost 2 years old) I have learnt real wing chun and with this style I am more selfconfidence than with EWTO. And I saw chalange of my sifu to one EWTO instructor... EWTO instructor was scared...
their base stance is really funny... I think that with this stance during hard attack you fall down on the ground!!! Did you ever see stands like this let say in K1 or MMA fighting which I consider as etalon of fight efectivity??? No!!! Why??? Because with EWTO base stance cannot win any real fight!!!
Poorly for knowledge for you to use in your quest for martial arts. The 'stance' is not meant for fighting, it is a method to teach, protection of the groin, basics for foot work and isometric training the strengthen of the legs.
@wxw11 i knew ur doing wing chun!!respect to wing chun but they dont teach realistic stuff,wing tsun is continuing to grow in knowledge and they added extra stuff like the blitz defence and the pre fight simulations which i think are the most important aspects of training for people who never had a real life confrontation.
@ghettoaga..idon't think it is a good idea to say that WT is better than this or that style. It is the basic law for an intelligent fighter never to underestimate other Style. I agree that WT or WC concepts understood correctly can be very usefull. I know for a fact that the good ones in EWTO are the ones who can think for themself. Sadly there are many EWTO guys who only get spoonfed with with ideas and never think for them self. It is due to the size of the Organisation.
I also watched a lot of these clips to find any realisme in the demonstration.
All i saw is when you do this ill do that...but even then I see openings that R dangerous in a real fight.
What i wanna say is...If you think that you can stand and punch like that in a real street fight with a mean street fighter...well then you got it wrong and you WILL BE punched in the face!!
well is guess thats exactly the point. they do not play any patterns like you do A i do B. im quite sure gutierrez does not know what is coming on him beforehand. he simply reacts on the impuls/openings he gets/sees. you get me?
i self practice Ving Tsun and i see some points that he can do better, at first the hamering, a direct punch is way more effective, at 3:38, the way he is standing is a boxing stance, and you can better stand with both feet to the left or right.
the dude at 5:08 is also in a boxing stance, ow also the dude in red at 0:22 is also standing forward, i am not saying that they do it wrong, i just learn it diffrent.
The real question is why it seems to hard to make a convincing demonstration of effectiveness? The point is not that this is a demo or a cage match. The net is full of Wing Chun/Tsun videos. Not even one of them is convincing.
What we do in Wing Tsun is counter every kind of attack, every range. If the opponent attacks a little not so close, we just step closer with our feet, simple
the distance is so far because when the opponent would stand nearer, then he (the attacker) could reach him (defender) with his legs. If the opponent would start nearer, the defender have to attack before his opponent have the chance to do something. Hard to believe, but this distance is right.
Soy de Murcia y hace 2 semanas, sifu vino a dar un curso y a hacer exámenes de grado.
Entre los que se examinaban había un compañero (examen de 6º grado) que medía como 2 palmos más que él y que podía pasar como jugador de rugby.
Decir que ver cómo caía ese chico fue... raro. Era la primera vez que lo veía caer. Y mira que nos esforzamos en tirarle cuando hacemos piernas y/o suelo.
PD: Además, tengo entendido que en un congreso en Bulgaria tumbó a un tío que era campeón de vale-tudo y que media como 1'90 y que pesaba unos 180 kg, así que tan malo no será.
it hard 2 make it look absolutly perfect when ur not tryin to hurt tha other person.these r 4 instructional purposes.take it then disgaurd it.its not a cage fight ppl lol.
I think you are mistaken. Guitierez is not the one attempting to not hurt someone. It is his demonstration partners that are playing nice. Vic is laying into them all, trying to show the efficacy of WT. He is a brutish moron. Go watch a Dan Inosanto instructional. Fluid, clear, and graceful. Not this nonsense at all.
So why dont they get the attacker to use good technique. Talk about crap technique and telegraphing? Right hook starts from app 2 foot behind the thrower does it?
If a guy did that no one would need martial arts to defend themselves.
Its a demo you idiot, if an attacker used a right hook, a straight wing chun centre line punch would reach the attacker before the hook intercepts, learn about something before you post in future.
It's always as "demo" you fucking freak. We never see this bullshit used in a real fight; not once, ever. You are one of the most credulous believers who post on WC bullshit videos. Give up the cartoons you idiot; they are rotting what is left of your very small mind.
You guys got me laughing my ass off. I couldnt choke myself with it for more than a second after it opened just to see what people have said. I cant really add too much.
His attackers are literally opening themselves up and saying "hey, i'm open, hit me in the face and balls".
Come on, for one, people who do other styles don't even attack like that. Usually the attacker has his guard up until the point of impact and then he pushes you back with his series of attacks or body.
So, this demonstration shows "if" the attacker left his guard open.
Man I've watched a lot of this prick's videos and he reminds me of nothing so much as a guy who likes to beat up his worshipers. His uke's are feeding him slowed down techniques, not trying to defend themselves or anything. Just being training partners. And Victor here, in his fucking MMA gloves (Fucking har dee har har) just fucking lays into them.
What a douche bag, saddist posing as a martial arts instructor.
Por cierto deduzco de tus palabras que no has tenido el honor de combatir contra el Victor Gutierrez o alguno de sus hermanos porque si así fuera dudo que dijeras eso xDD
@davichuuuu Tio, en serio tu sabes lo que es el WT?? soid predecibles dice... y es una de las artes mas impredecible.. (te suena el lema adaptarse o morir? si has hecho WT supongo que si) Lo que si que es predecible es que te va a llevar una tromba de ataques en masa, eso si puedes predecirlo..
Si el señor Gutierrez como tu dices tuviera a un tio grande (y lento) como dices, seguramente con el primer croche largo y abierto lo aprovecharia de pm romperia su centro y se llevaria mil piñazos dl 20
@NiTrATiLLo ¿cuando he dicho grande y lento? Esto es un corta-pega de lo que he escrito, si no quieres molestarte en leerlo (dado que al parecer te cuesta): "alto, y con su nivel de experiencia". Hacía un año que no me metía en este vídeo, ¿qué tal las vacaciones de verano?
@davichuuuu hey yo mido 1,67 y peso 60 kilos y el wt es muy util para mi y eh practicado boxeo, kick boxing,taekwondo y judo ...si no lo fue para ti esta bien seria una ridicules q a todos nos represente el mismo arte marcial.pero no le faltes el respeto al wt ni a nunguna otra arte
@elkolodj jajajajajajajaj que comentario mas ignorante, este vídeo es para estudiantes de WT si no gusta de este sistema, simplemente no lo vea, no comente, mas bien siga viendo UFC desde su cómodo sofá
@davichuuuu el sistema no es inutil! el inutil, sin embargo eres TU! hay un dicho antiguo y muy cierto que dice que no hay mal profesor sino mal estudiante, tanto tu profesor como tu fueron y seran malos estudiantes porque no saben buscar soluciones precisas al momento de un combate y por eso dicen que el sistema no sirve! esta demostrado que el Wing Chun es un sistema casi sin fallas. Antes de desprestigiar practica como se debe!
honor??? mira para mi no seria honor pelear con un tipo que en demostraciones golpea como si le fueran a matar y lo peor es que le pega a alumnos con menor grado tecnico que el es como un niño grande que se dedica a abusar de los compañeros mas pequeños en el patio, y lo peor es que sus alumnos ademas de quedar doloridos se tiran al suelo para dar mas impresion y se kedan como muertos, es un fanfarron le quisiera ver con alguien con el mismo grado tecnico aver cuanto aguantaba.......
el wt tan solo sirve cuando el otro adversario es más débil que tu, y no sabe artes marciales. Y lo digo porque lo he practicado, y una vez vi a mi instructor (con un montón de títulos y grados, y su foto en las revistas) caer en menos de cinco segundos contra un 1ºDan competidor de judo que aguantó sus golpes, le cogió y le lanzó fuera del tatami. sí, sí, de Judo. El tomaquetoma del que depende el wt no sirve de nada si el adversario sabe recibir. Hace cosquillas.
El wing chun no es un deporte sino un arte marcial, en un combate amistoso no puedes golpear en genitales, cuellos o rodillas, en un combate en la calle si, yo te puedo decir por propia experiencia que en un combate dnd todo valga un luchador de wt puede tumbar a otro artista marcial el doble de grande aunque como bien deberias saber no hay artes marciales mejores ni peores solo artistas marciales mejors y peores. Un saludo!
Si todo eso que dices fuera cierto porque no hay wing chun al nivel de UFC o MMA que no alla hecho una terrible actuacion??, ya se que en la calle esta el factor sorpresa, no saber lo que trae tu enemigo y los principios del wing chun tradicional pueden marcar la diferencia pero en la UFC lo unico que no puedes hacer es genitales porque rodilla y cuello todo lo que quieras
En el UFC no se permiten golpes a la garganta ni a ciertas articulaciones, tampoco a los ojos e incluso estan prohibidos depende que tipo de codazos, es cierto que al igual que en las MMA permiten muchos mas golpes y dureza que en otras competiciones pero esta muy lejos de ser un "vale todo" como dios manda y limitar asi es quitar gran parte de la ventaja de un luchador de WT frente a un adversario mas grande. Un saludo.
While this is recognizable as Wing Tsun, it's really quite a poor representation. Definitely not up to standard for a "master." Technique is quite sloppy and the supposed result of his attacks is WAY out of proportion for the kind of power he would produce with such poor technique.
Just my opinion, I'm sure many people could disagree.
Hey, he is teaching! A real master must be at first a good teacher! And he is showing blitzdefense. When a master shows beginner things, so don't think that's all he can do. Don't think so primitive you moron.
hes not saying the moves he is using is bad, hes saying his technique while doing those beginner moves are horrible. if a master cant even do the beginner moves with proper technique then THAT is bad. please dont call ppl morons when you were the one who didnt read the comment properly
real" WingTsun "let the hands do the talking,mon sau asking hands "
and then you will find out.The Ving Tsun Kung Fu system is an authentic and traditional martial art that is known for its efficiency and economy of motion.If that there ,Good! The goal of her system was to utilize the most economical physical movements to achieve maximum effectiveness while minimizing the amount of training time necessary to develop combat readiness".If that there GOOD!
and who in your opinion Mr Oliebolli knows "real" WingTsun? I am so tired of everyones infighting over who is the realdeal in WT, can't we just accept and honour the teachers who dedicate most of their lives to the art and stop bitching around??? Especially since most of those negative comments coem from people who are low level students themselves (if that)!?
why not? Because he uses only strength & strength alone, no concept of real WT. (using the opponents force)
And also; i 've never EVER witnessed an agressor (ring, or 'street'), that collapsed after a few punches!!! this is not REALISTIC. Guiterez is Kernspechts' bitch, but the bitch blakmails his pimp!!!
Well I can only repeat what I already said: Chill out dude, get a life. If you don't like it fine, but try to be better instead of bitching around. I don't agree with everything Leung Ting or Kernspecht say either, nor with what anyone else in the Kung Fu world does, but I think we should all have some respect for people who make this their life AND pass it on to others... just my opinion of course.
and anyway, what do you expect to see? broken bones and blood splatter, so it is more "realistic"?? this is an instructional video not some kind of splatter movie...
That's right, insult everyone and don't make any constructive comments, you obviously know how to contest an argument. Clearly you've understood the philosophy of martial arts... ;-)
im sorry but this is utter bullshit do you seriosuly thing someone with a brain would punch some one in that manner so that he can get knocked out?!? this video is a teacher with and student giving him instructions on how to hit! im not hating Though dont get me wrong.
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It's no game it's Kung fu...!!
katsouriadis72 3 weeks ago
search this one: " Sifu Norberto Rinaldi - Argentina - Wing Tsun Evolutivo ", a best sifu from Victor Gutierrez wing tsun
elkolodj1 1 month ago
I had to stop mid-way, this is NOT wing chun, I should have know, anytime I watch a Ving Tsun video, it's always a sloppy version of wing chun, more boxing than anything, I couldn't even identify any of these "techniques" as wing chun, Leung ting sure ruined the system! Anytime something says "Ving Tsun", instead of Wing Chun, stay away from it!!
SnakePIissken 3 months ago
@NRock2404 to be honest I think it shows a more modern way of wing chun, and adapted one, since it was made to counter martial arts that people don't use anymore. I see it as a wingchun form adapted to the new arts (including boxing, much more common nowadays) and how to counter them, making it a really good adaptation and evolution of an art.
Premonitor 2 months ago
@SnakePIissken You mean Wing Tsun, Ving Tsun is the Wong Shun Leung lineage.
To give my opinion away, i have trained both WT and VT and i have to say VT is more strict about the rules - which is, it stays true to the traditional Kung-Fu style, but WT is rougher - it teaches you more deadly techniques. In the end, it all depends what you want but the truth is, it doesn't matter which system you follow - what does matters is that you understand and follow the spirit of WC.
AnamiLoka 2 months ago
@SnakePIissken Ving Tsun is not Leung Ting.. Been a student since 92 but yes alot of videos that are posted are very sloppy
spacejack9000 6 days ago
Why is it that in demonstrations they always assume that the opponent is a complete simpleton who just flails his arms around? This shit won't work in real life when someone kicks you from behind and stabs your kidneys so don't bother commenting on on these vids.
NRock2404 4 months ago
@NRock2404 this is not a demostration and this shit works very well....
tutanota 3 months ago
@NRock2404 yeah what about when he shoots you in the eyeball with a shotgun then would it work?
fiendin281 3 months ago
@fiendin281 do you carry a shotgun everywhere you go? I dont think so and do you have what it takes to pull the trigger?
spacejack9000 6 days ago
@spacejack9000 you obviously missed the sarcasm in my comment.
fiendin281 5 days ago
@fiendin281 sorry your sarcasm sounded alot like the smack everyone else is talking
spacejack9000 5 days ago
but you are commenting on this vids, do you? THis is a demo, i personally know Victor in RL, and I can ensure you: do not even try to approach to him from behind. He is really, really, really good, an awesome fighter, and this is just a simple and slowly demo.
Premonitor 2 months ago
Does anyone know of a full time WT school? Not a once a week class thing. But a full time every day collage type thing.
Makaveli7Soldier 4 months ago
@Makaveli7Soldier yes Billings, Mt. Sifu Steve Brandon M-F. i believe he has 2 class a day and privates are also available
spacejack9000 5 days ago
not bad but he needs to lower down those pants a little bit
ijcn0jir3nvjn3fjcifn 6 months ago 4
sieht aus, als versuche sich ein wt mann im cadena boxen, wenn ihr sehen wollt, wie sowas wirklich geht, auch im sparring, seht euch ucc hamburg an...
fewag 7 months ago
@fewag aber wusstest du dass der meister von diesem wt mann mit 99%-er sicherheit auch die meisten spezialkräfte in deutschland trainiert hat?
rokluser 5 months ago
@rokluser und genau deswegen haben die auch nix drauf, ich unterrichte selber polizisten und soldaten und bin oft entsetzt, über den mist, der denen beigebracht wurde. Leider hat das unterrichten der spezialkräfte in diesem land weniger was mit wirklichem können, als vielmehr mit vitamin b zu tun-und im sich verkaufen sind die wt leute unschlagbar-aber eben auch nur dadrin...
fewag 5 months ago
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maybe a street puncher knows to fight but he still is a stupid moron :D
jomushin7 8 months ago
This is typical: in almost every Wing Chun demonstration, the opponent takes a mile-long run up. And most important: he must be a total idiot.
MegaSmud 8 months ago
@MegaSmud in a self defense situation the aggressor must come to you to hurt you. And yes most of the street punchers are idiots. ^^
jomushin7 8 months ago
@jomushin7 Sure - but as I said, mile-long? There are those attackers, but not all do that. The time, when most people had no idea offighting, is over. This must not be forgotten. And if you say, that "street punchers" are idiots, this shows, that you underestimate your opponent and you're too confident. Some people practice a martial art in order to suppress the weak - and these people know what they are doing. And then, the situation is quite different.
MegaSmud 8 months ago
@MegaSmud you will never be attacked by a intelligent guy who knows fight sports, but you had something going on with his sister. :D
bimbamo 8 months ago
@bimbamo You badass :-)
MegaSmud 8 months ago
i liked the part 0:00-5:42
ewereszt98 9 months ago
2nd set of movements:
-1st pak was weak, that punch could've slipped right in, n he wasnt even punching all the way to the target. -2nd, bong, his structure raises and leans = bad. Elbow looks pretty sweet as he recovers his structure at the same time as landing it.
Overall: Lame pak saus all over the place.
dzetoad3 9 months ago
-1st pak was weak, that punch could've slipped right in, n he wasnt even punching all the way to the target. -2nd, bong, his structure raises and leans = bad. Elbow looks pretty sweet as he recovers his structure at the same time as landing it.
dzetoad3 9 months ago
:O de tan rápido que hace los golpes hasta se oye el sonido cuando rompe la barrera del sonido, algo así como el sonic boom
nodreamx 9 months ago
Esto no quiere decir que yo le quiera faltar el respeto a nadie. Respeto mucho a cualquier profesional de la materia, y mas a los que tienen el valor de competir con los mejores atletas del Mundo en el UFC. Todos los estilos tienen ventajas y desventajas, pero todos han aportado a la evolucion de las artes marciales.
herickdeharo 10 months ago
Practique 7 años este estilo y no tengo titulación alguna, y no me interesan. He conocido a grandes maestros en diferentes disciplinas que han consagrado su vida a las artes marciales, y todos entienden que es un gran estilo de Kung Fu, con alto carácter científico.
Es muy distinto un combate en la calle, que un evento deportivo.
herickdeharo 10 months ago
No importa cuánto kung fu sepas, siempre hay alguien que sabe más que tu. Dice un viejo refrán chino
Hay grandes sistemas en todo el mundo, y grandes atletas, yo amo el UFC, me gusta mucho el Mua Thai, el Kick Boxing, el Judo, el Boxeo, el Kali, etc. Del wing Shun me gusta, que es un concepto marcial que agrupa en un solo espacio tiempo los tres fundamentos más importantes de las artes marciales.
No ha parado de evolucionar constantemente. Es todo.
herickdeharo 10 months ago
Great Boxing. Telegraphing all his movements conveniently, so the WC man can do his "totally powerful" hits.
stephenrobertrae 10 months ago
@stephenrobertrae its a demonstration, not pressure testing, get over it..
hitter1 10 months ago
@hitter1 What? Demonstrating how you can't fight anyone with actual skill or else the technique doesn't work? I wanna see some actual WC, cause all i see is demonstrations on here, and no ACTUAL application.
stephenrobertrae 10 months ago
@stephenrobertrae watch the open chi sao videos to see Victor in action.
Certainly this is only a demonstration Vid, application only comes with training AND real world use.
But watch his chi sao Vids and you will see how brutal VG can be against actual fighters.
gambleyourhealth 9 months ago
If this masters never share there knowledge you people wont ever know what wing chun really is or any martial arts be it JKD/WC/BJJ boxing filipino martial arts etc. anything I bet you guyz will regret back bitting great instructors and masters. Remeber This knowledge you have gotten came free This particular Video under budo is very expensive just like the gracie tapes and fights that come from UFC. Show respect to all this Instructors and masters (peace)
silatkempo 10 months ago
steif ??
are thay see medusa ??
this is the theorie not the real fight
biatchnigga69 11 months ago
estoy con herickdeharo el wt es muy efectivo pero se ha visto q tiene puntos muertos de ahi wing thun revolution tengo entendido un abrazogente
Nicopescamallorca 11 months ago
The fake acting like your dead shit ruins it for me... is it really necessary? So childish.
theuppro 1 year ago
Victor you make it look so easy WOW
bulldogs0161 1 year ago
a amateur boxer won't go straight up.
asianboycn 1 year ago
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El Wing Shun es un arte marcial totalmente científico. Lo que sucede con el es igual que en todos los deportes, Hay estrellas y mediocres... Como todo. Grandes maestros del mundo lo reconocen y lo aprecian. Para mi es lo máximo. Por supuesto estos videos son demostrativos no pueden ser reales porque harían extremo daño al oponente y nadie podría entrenar.
Una cosa es deportes de exhibición y otro es arte marcial real.
Un saludo grande
herickdeharo 1 year ago
@herickdeharo Necesitas evidencia comprobable para sustentar eso, si te gusta el WT todo bien, a mi me gusta tambien. Pero de ahi a decir que es 100% cientifico, me parece que mandas fruta viejo, no se para que comparar los deportes con el AAMM si se sabe desde el vamos que no tienen mucho que ver. Para decir que es lo maximo, fijate primero tu curriculo marcial, por cuantas AAMM pasastes antes de fanatizarte con el WT. Hay estilos vistosos que son efectivos, el Shaolin por nombrar uno.
semillasdelorto 1 year ago
El Wing Shun es un arte marcial totalmente científico. Lo que sucede con el es igual que en todos los deportes, Hay estrellas y mediocres... Como todo. Grandes maestros del mundo lo reconocen y lo aprecian. Para mi es lo máximo. Por supuesto estos videos son demostrativos no pueden ser reales porque harían extremo daño al oponente y nadie podría entrenar.
Una cosa es deportes de exhibición y otro es arte marcial real.
herickdeharo 1 year ago
El wing Shun es un arte marcial totalmente cientifico. Lo que sucede con el es igual que en todos los deportes, Hay extrellas y mediocres... Como todo. Grandes maestros del mundo lo reconocen y lo aprecian. Para mi es lo maximo. Por supuesto estos videos son demostrativos no pueden ser reales porque harian extremo daño al oponente y nadie podria entrenar.
Una cosa es deportes de exibicion y otro es arte marcial real
herickdeharo 1 year ago
El wing Shun es un arte marcial totalmente cientifico. Lo que sucede con el es igual que en todos los deportes, Hay extrellas y mediocres... Como todo. Grandes maestros del mundo lo reconocen y lo aprecian. Para mi es lo maximo
herickdeharo 1 year ago
vay tontería, que mal está hecho
parece el WWE
todo mentira
Mr13alma 1 year ago
yo practico eso
keviolaf01 1 year ago
....y por otro lado...Eso de que a un boxeador le pegas y no lo nota, ¡venga ya..! Si le das una caricia, a lo mejor no, pero una avalancha de golpes en la cara o donde sea, vamos a ver si lo nota un boxeador o quien sea. Y desde luego que van tapados y cubiertos, precisamente el Wing Chun esta especializado en "atrapar" brazos y es muy facil atrapar a alquien que está cubierto como un boxador. Asi que al final, me parece que cada uno tira y critica para lo que le interesa
OkinawaT 1 year ago
....por lo tanto, habrá personas que se pongan a estudiar Wing Chun y les irá fenomenal y descubrirán que es su arte marcial y a otros, les dejará impasibles y preferirán otras coas. Asi que dependerá de el individuo, porque cada persona es un mundo. En cualquier caso, visto desde un punto de vista objetivo y viendo como funciona en general la efectividad del Wing Chun, creo que a estas alturas es evidente como funciona
OkinawaT 1 year ago
Bueno. Está claro que cada uno saca sus conclusiones. Yo estuve en el primer cursillo que hicieron los hermanos Gutierrez y había opiniones para todos los gustos. Desde los que decían que era alucinante, hasta los que no les gustó en absoluto. A mi no me pareció "Inutil" en absoluto, pero lo que está claro es que cada persona tiene una percepción distinta de las cosas y que a uno se le puede dar mejor los atrapes que a otro, igual que a otros se les puede dar mucho mejor las llaves a unos....
OkinawaT 1 year ago
=:05 ..what kind of punch is that !?!?! This is BULLSHIT
jjjoestar 1 year ago
Yo hice Karate durante 10 años y la verdad es que me gustó bastante (mi padre es sensei). Después hice Aikido y como defensa personal es una pasada pero terminé molido con las muñecas "bonicas del todo".
Ahora después de 8 años sin prácticar ningún arte marcial, me encantaría practicar Wing Tsun (desde pequeño me tragué todas las peliculas de Bruce Lee xD) y ésto viene porque vi Ip Man, la historia del maestro de Bruce Lee y donde vivo, no se donde hay una escuela para aprender D:
¡Saludos!
TempleOfTheVampires 1 year ago
guard hand is too low and his attacker is not countering because it's choreographed.
sotahjarta 1 year ago
Nice video...If you want see my wooden dummy too..
/watch?v=UkhyhZzxIlk
SifuNikos 1 year ago
WING TSUN NOT IS FOR LITTLE PERSONS , WING TSUN NO ES PARA GENTE PEQUEÑA , . SI PELEAS CON ALGUIEN MAS GRANDE QUE SEPA EL ESTILO TU ERES HOMBRE MUERTO
Zerospy 1 year ago
c@cksuckers
TheLibertard 1 year ago
hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha WOW! I'm gonna go test out my new skills by going to sign up for the local fights!! hahahahahahahahaha
JustinThoj 1 year ago
you are a joke and should never be able to teach the shit u have shown on this video you are the kind of person that gives all art forms a bad name get a life
firedragon542001 1 year ago
why do people post this kind of shit?
sos123321 1 year ago
hot chilli peppers in the blistering sun.......
dust on my face and my cape...
chumkui999 2 years ago
i total agreed with getthis22 you all are a idot.
siguenza69 2 years ago
well you go up against him and prove him wrong a good fighter is one with peace enery and nature even that has an instinct
WicWicer 2 years ago
oky if the apponent tries to get up after you get them down trust me your instict will tell you not to let them up, after all your movements and your actions could save you getting a knife in the throat or the head or body,, so where can i join i need it to be safe on the streets and only for a defence purpose
WicWicer 2 years ago
unfortunatly i come from a rough place in scotland no guns but there is street fighting stabbing and you can easily be out numbered from time to time but trust me, there are only thew that can fight , plus i was told that it is one of the best deffence strategys against street fights, can also keep a thew when occupied when fighting trust me use energy well and exercise your muscles and wing style could have you out of trouble in no time
WicWicer 2 years ago
just suppose the opponent wouldn't jump and fall all by himself. -would your technique work? guess not!
that's why it is so weak! just pretending! nothing else!
constableman 2 years ago
@constableman Martialarts in generel can only attempt to approach realistic fight situation. You can't expect people to break their bones and noses every week just to train to avoid it. That would be very stupid. That is why such demonstrationvideos can never show realfight. Show me one video in youtube which shows that kind of video. btw i spared with this guy. He is good. better than in this outdated video
maharis2000 2 years ago
You know what I like about Wing Chun?
NOTHING!
mofotax 2 years ago
You must see him with the new sistem and "live". He's great. I see him beat a guy who looks like a bodygard and karate 3th dan. This videos are only demostration of WT techniques. Tha's all.
ABCCNNNBCCBS 2 years ago 2
does anyone know a good remedy for an ichy ring??? just cant stop scratching......
chumkui999 2 years ago
How does this help a student learn how to apply these techniques? This is one step sparring?
Godsmasher22 2 years ago
Imagine it more as a demo and not so much as an instructional video. He developed branch of effective street styles that sub-branch from Wing Tsun. Students learn it in Wing Tsun classes now. Thats what I like about WT aswell, it is beeing constantly improved.
jerrymonkey 2 years ago
This is great, I see Victor does a lot of boxing now. Don't like akll the sniffing though vic. cut it out next time!!
colonelbitter 2 years ago
Wow for a Tech grade Victor has his guard is highly extended. tutut
Christoff87 2 years ago
Really bad, like almost always with this WT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Real Wing Chun is nice, WT for stupid people, or people who never learned to know Wing Chun........
mmamanu 2 years ago
....... omg
Bukanero 2 years ago
schön einstudiert
xxxbw32xxx 2 years ago
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iainwashere 2 years ago
is nich so, oder was?!
xxxbw32xxx 2 years ago
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This isnt that good in a real fight. You shoudnt chase his hands it only ends in you getting hit.
DatajProductions 2 years ago
he lost the fight also he fight with tony jaa
ShoyruDrag0n 2 years ago
WT 4 EVER!
thebigmusclerex 2 years ago
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Woodboarder 2 years ago
i make Wing Tsun for about 1 and a half years, i tried it a few times against my sifu (over 20years of WT) to give him one single punch but i have still have absolute no chance to get him. When he would want he could kill me in a few seconds and i think im not a bad fighter when i had to. And i know that my sifu have no chance against sifu gutierrez. And he have no chance against GM Kernspecht. Thats true!
Woodboarder 2 years ago 2
a steaming pile of bullshit.. good brainwash they did on you.. fuck off
nicoraba 2 years ago
I must completely agree with you, this video is BIG BULLSHIT for people which never had real confilct. If somebody really believe that is posible put somebody on the ground like on the video (and this somebody is not girls), please contact nearest club of WT for money spending.
wxw11 2 years ago
@wxw11 you're full of it lol,i know people who do wing tsun..theres no chance u can touch them in a street fight,i guess u must be from a diff style and thats why u hating,wing tsun is one of the best if not the best martial art for real life situations..people like u are scared to leave the house after 8pm why even bother talking about real life self defence.
ghettoaga 2 years ago
You are correct, that I am learining difirent style, and you are not correct that I am afraid leave home after 8pm, but good try for a joke... Maybe during EWTO brainwashing could be funny. I lernt wing tsun with EWTO and after I changed school due to my moving to new job. In my new school (but for now almost 2 years old) I have learnt real wing chun and with this style I am more selfconfidence than with EWTO. And I saw chalange of my sifu to one EWTO instructor... EWTO instructor was scared...
wxw11 2 years ago
And my last note directly to EWTO style:
their base stance is really funny... I think that with this stance during hard attack you fall down on the ground!!! Did you ever see stands like this let say in K1 or MMA fighting which I consider as etalon of fight efectivity??? No!!! Why??? Because with EWTO base stance cannot win any real fight!!!
wxw11 2 years ago
Poorly for knowledge for you to use in your quest for martial arts. The 'stance' is not meant for fighting, it is a method to teach, protection of the groin, basics for foot work and isometric training the strengthen of the legs.
getthis22 2 years ago
@wxw11 i knew ur doing wing chun!!respect to wing chun but they dont teach realistic stuff,wing tsun is continuing to grow in knowledge and they added extra stuff like the blitz defence and the pre fight simulations which i think are the most important aspects of training for people who never had a real life confrontation.
ghettoaga 2 years ago
A true martial artist would respect any martial artist for seeking knowledge.
getthis22 2 years ago
@ghettoaga..idon't think it is a good idea to say that WT is better than this or that style. It is the basic law for an intelligent fighter never to underestimate other Style. I agree that WT or WC concepts understood correctly can be very usefull. I know for a fact that the good ones in EWTO are the ones who can think for themself. Sadly there are many EWTO guys who only get spoonfed with with ideas and never think for them self. It is due to the size of the Organisation.
maharis2000 2 years ago
So you would advocate beating up all your students, breaking limbs in order to show them it works?
getthis22 2 years ago
Im with EtonSmegma!
I also watched a lot of these clips to find any realisme in the demonstration.
All i saw is when you do this ill do that...but even then I see openings that R dangerous in a real fight.
What i wanna say is...If you think that you can stand and punch like that in a real street fight with a mean street fighter...well then you got it wrong and you WILL BE punched in the face!!
minasz 2 years ago
well is guess thats exactly the point. they do not play any patterns like you do A i do B. im quite sure gutierrez does not know what is coming on him beforehand. he simply reacts on the impuls/openings he gets/sees. you get me?
ershibashi 2 years ago
the dude at 3:22 is hamering,
i self practice Ving Tsun and i see some points that he can do better, at first the hamering, a direct punch is way more effective, at 3:38, the way he is standing is a boxing stance, and you can better stand with both feet to the left or right.
the dude at 5:08 is also in a boxing stance, ow also the dude in red at 0:22 is also standing forward, i am not saying that they do it wrong, i just learn it diffrent.
and that was a elbow (to the discusion :P )
anubisnl7 2 years ago
The real question is why it seems to hard to make a convincing demonstration of effectiveness? The point is not that this is a demo or a cage match. The net is full of Wing Chun/Tsun videos. Not even one of them is convincing.
EtonSmegma 2 years ago
this is SUCK
pizzita 2 years ago
Isn't Wing Tsun supposed to be centred around countering close-range - the opponent beggins the attack from way too much distance.
Uxoriouswidow 2 years ago
I'll reply to you. :)
What we do in Wing Tsun is counter every kind of attack, every range. If the opponent attacks a little not so close, we just step closer with our feet, simple
010Adrian010 2 years ago
the distance is so far because when the opponent would stand nearer, then he (the attacker) could reach him (defender) with his legs. If the opponent would start nearer, the defender have to attack before his opponent have the chance to do something. Hard to believe, but this distance is right.
Woodboarder 2 years ago
Pussyalarm!
[i mean the aggressor..] =]
safarwan11 2 years ago
Before I get postings from p#ssed off WC people I can see a use for wing chun.
What I cant see is anybody in WC using it for real.
Before I get the deadly art stuff ,,,,vale tudo has being doing things full contact for years.
So WC teachers go and find a good one and get in there.
wannabeebee 2 years ago
Even then if this is meant to be fighting then find a good street fighter and try the stuff out for real.
Otherwise while the basics are decent it belongs in the box of techniques done against a compliant person.
Prove the damn stuff works.
wannabeebee 2 years ago
ymaa go see that he is a real master
rockerjaz666 3 years ago
Mordad89:
Soy de Murcia y hace 2 semanas, sifu vino a dar un curso y a hacer exámenes de grado.
Entre los que se examinaban había un compañero (examen de 6º grado) que medía como 2 palmos más que él y que podía pasar como jugador de rugby.
Decir que ver cómo caía ese chico fue... raro. Era la primera vez que lo veía caer. Y mira que nos esforzamos en tirarle cuando hacemos piernas y/o suelo.
Y pongo la mano en el fuego a que no se dejó.
ABCCNNNBCCBS 3 years ago
PD: Además, tengo entendido que en un congreso en Bulgaria tumbó a un tío que era campeón de vale-tudo y que media como 1'90 y que pesaba unos 180 kg, así que tan malo no será.
ABCCNNNBCCBS 3 years ago
even bruce lee displayed sloppy techneque while tryin 2 hold back for his movie's,even injured himself alot from it.
bassilkama 3 years ago
No he didn't.
Godsmasher22 3 years ago
lol, yea. no he didn't.. bruce is god lol
Tenchijk 3 years ago
it hard 2 make it look absolutly perfect when ur not tryin to hurt tha other person.these r 4 instructional purposes.take it then disgaurd it.its not a cage fight ppl lol.
bassilkama 3 years ago
I think you are mistaken. Guitierez is not the one attempting to not hurt someone. It is his demonstration partners that are playing nice. Vic is laying into them all, trying to show the efficacy of WT. He is a brutish moron. Go watch a Dan Inosanto instructional. Fluid, clear, and graceful. Not this nonsense at all.
Godsmasher22 3 years ago
So why dont they get the attacker to use good technique. Talk about crap technique and telegraphing? Right hook starts from app 2 foot behind the thrower does it?
If a guy did that no one would need martial arts to defend themselves.
wannabeebee 2 years ago
Its a demo you idiot, if an attacker used a right hook, a straight wing chun centre line punch would reach the attacker before the hook intercepts, learn about something before you post in future.
SirMetaKnight6 2 years ago
Ho, hum. You would call that a right hook would you? and I should learn about something?
That isn't a right hook dude.
That is a windmill.
If an attacker used a right hook as per the video then I would laugh at the idiot.
No need for a STRAIGHT wing chun centre line punch with that crappy excuse..
So like I said get some one who can punch properly then apply the techniques.
wannabeebee 2 years ago
It's always as "demo" you fucking freak. We never see this bullshit used in a real fight; not once, ever. You are one of the most credulous believers who post on WC bullshit videos. Give up the cartoons you idiot; they are rotting what is left of your very small mind.
Blndrfist 2 years ago
wtf are you on about?
SirMetaKnight6 2 years ago
your flaming technique is weak.
SpamFairy 2 years ago
You guys got me laughing my ass off. I couldnt choke myself with it for more than a second after it opened just to see what people have said. I cant really add too much.
zokar11 3 years ago
His attackers are literally opening themselves up and saying "hey, i'm open, hit me in the face and balls".
Come on, for one, people who do other styles don't even attack like that. Usually the attacker has his guard up until the point of impact and then he pushes you back with his series of attacks or body.
So, this demonstration shows "if" the attacker left his guard open.
ShinFuYux 3 years ago 2
Exactly, thats the problem with most martial arts, the attacker always attacks stupid. and the techniques of course work.
meistermuh 3 years ago 2
Agreed put the person demonstrating in the ring with a decent hard hitting boxer.
wannabeebee 2 years ago
Man I've watched a lot of this prick's videos and he reminds me of nothing so much as a guy who likes to beat up his worshipers. His uke's are feeding him slowed down techniques, not trying to defend themselves or anything. Just being training partners. And Victor here, in his fucking MMA gloves (Fucking har dee har har) just fucking lays into them.
What a douche bag, saddist posing as a martial arts instructor.
Godsmasher22 3 years ago
victor sucks the cock by sifu kernspecht hahahahaha
olistari 3 years ago
i wish there was wing chun school in waco,texas
dbaisa68 3 years ago
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davichuuuu 3 years ago
Por cierto deduzco de tus palabras que no has tenido el honor de combatir contra el Victor Gutierrez o alguno de sus hermanos porque si así fuera dudo que dijeras eso xDD
Mordad89 3 years ago
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davichuuuu 3 years ago
Me gustaria dejarte claro que actualmente practico otras dos artes marciales que no son WT, ni siquiera son chinas.
Decid que Victor Gutierrez solo golpea a gente bajita es demostrarme que sabes poco de él aparte de su curriculum en otras artes marciales tambien.
Respecto a lo de tu maestro..tal vez no fuera buen luchador pero eso seria culpa suya no del arte marcial en si.
Mordad89 3 years ago
@davichuuuu Tio, en serio tu sabes lo que es el WT?? soid predecibles dice... y es una de las artes mas impredecible.. (te suena el lema adaptarse o morir? si has hecho WT supongo que si) Lo que si que es predecible es que te va a llevar una tromba de ataques en masa, eso si puedes predecirlo..
Si el señor Gutierrez como tu dices tuviera a un tio grande (y lento) como dices, seguramente con el primer croche largo y abierto lo aprovecharia de pm romperia su centro y se llevaria mil piñazos dl 20
NiTrATiLLo 1 year ago
@NiTrATiLLo ¿cuando he dicho grande y lento? Esto es un corta-pega de lo que he escrito, si no quieres molestarte en leerlo (dado que al parecer te cuesta): "alto, y con su nivel de experiencia". Hacía un año que no me metía en este vídeo, ¿qué tal las vacaciones de verano?
davichuuuu 1 year ago
@davichuuuu hey yo mido 1,67 y peso 60 kilos y el wt es muy util para mi y eh practicado boxeo, kick boxing,taekwondo y judo ...si no lo fue para ti esta bien seria una ridicules q a todos nos represente el mismo arte marcial.pero no le faltes el respeto al wt ni a nunguna otra arte
tutanota 1 year ago
@davichuuuu tan inutil q el mismo bruce lee lo practicaba
elkolodj 1 year ago
@elkolodj jajajajajajajaj que comentario mas ignorante, este vídeo es para estudiantes de WT si no gusta de este sistema, simplemente no lo vea, no comente, mas bien siga viendo UFC desde su cómodo sofá
caramelodesulfuro 4 months ago
@caramelodesulfuro ¿? no entiendo, me respondiste a mi? que dije?
elkolodj 3 months ago
@davichuuuu el sistema no es inutil! el inutil, sin embargo eres TU! hay un dicho antiguo y muy cierto que dice que no hay mal profesor sino mal estudiante, tanto tu profesor como tu fueron y seran malos estudiantes porque no saben buscar soluciones precisas al momento de un combate y por eso dicen que el sistema no sirve! esta demostrado que el Wing Chun es un sistema casi sin fallas. Antes de desprestigiar practica como se debe!
Vandermogo 1 year ago
honor??? mira para mi no seria honor pelear con un tipo que en demostraciones golpea como si le fueran a matar y lo peor es que le pega a alumnos con menor grado tecnico que el es como un niño grande que se dedica a abusar de los compañeros mas pequeños en el patio, y lo peor es que sus alumnos ademas de quedar doloridos se tiran al suelo para dar mas impresion y se kedan como muertos, es un fanfarron le quisiera ver con alguien con el mismo grado tecnico aver cuanto aguantaba.......
mastjrg86 1 year ago
el wt tan solo sirve cuando el otro adversario es más débil que tu, y no sabe artes marciales. Y lo digo porque lo he practicado, y una vez vi a mi instructor (con un montón de títulos y grados, y su foto en las revistas) caer en menos de cinco segundos contra un 1ºDan competidor de judo que aguantó sus golpes, le cogió y le lanzó fuera del tatami. sí, sí, de Judo. El tomaquetoma del que depende el wt no sirve de nada si el adversario sabe recibir. Hace cosquillas.
davichuuuu 3 years ago
El wing chun no es un deporte sino un arte marcial, en un combate amistoso no puedes golpear en genitales, cuellos o rodillas, en un combate en la calle si, yo te puedo decir por propia experiencia que en un combate dnd todo valga un luchador de wt puede tumbar a otro artista marcial el doble de grande aunque como bien deberias saber no hay artes marciales mejores ni peores solo artistas marciales mejors y peores. Un saludo!
Mordad89 3 years ago
Si todo eso que dices fuera cierto porque no hay wing chun al nivel de UFC o MMA que no alla hecho una terrible actuacion??, ya se que en la calle esta el factor sorpresa, no saber lo que trae tu enemigo y los principios del wing chun tradicional pueden marcar la diferencia pero en la UFC lo unico que no puedes hacer es genitales porque rodilla y cuello todo lo que quieras
jesusxtoo 3 years ago
En el UFC no se permiten golpes a la garganta ni a ciertas articulaciones, tampoco a los ojos e incluso estan prohibidos depende que tipo de codazos, es cierto que al igual que en las MMA permiten muchos mas golpes y dureza que en otras competiciones pero esta muy lejos de ser un "vale todo" como dios manda y limitar asi es quitar gran parte de la ventaja de un luchador de WT frente a un adversario mas grande. Un saludo.
Mordad89 3 years ago
this wt is a sheet
mimmodivir 3 years ago
this man incredible..
turkishgreywolf 3 years ago
Yes an incredible asshole.
Godsmasher22 3 years ago
While this is recognizable as Wing Tsun, it's really quite a poor representation. Definitely not up to standard for a "master." Technique is quite sloppy and the supposed result of his attacks is WAY out of proportion for the kind of power he would produce with such poor technique.
Just my opinion, I'm sure many people could disagree.
mycodeofhonor 3 years ago
Hey, he is teaching! A real master must be at first a good teacher! And he is showing blitzdefense. When a master shows beginner things, so don't think that's all he can do. Don't think so primitive you moron.
Vojak3 3 years ago
hes not saying the moves he is using is bad, hes saying his technique while doing those beginner moves are horrible. if a master cant even do the beginner moves with proper technique then THAT is bad. please dont call ppl morons when you were the one who didnt read the comment properly
StL33T 3 years ago 2
StL33T, thanks, I appreciate it! :)
mycodeofhonor 3 years ago
We do the same waste of time techniques in JKD sometimes.
Wrong distance in more then one sense.
You can't handle an ernest one-two if you stay this static, to begin with.
23rdtry 3 years ago
real" WingTsun "let the hands do the talking,mon sau asking hands "
and then you will find out.The Ving Tsun Kung Fu system is an authentic and traditional martial art that is known for its efficiency and economy of motion.If that there ,Good! The goal of her system was to utilize the most economical physical movements to achieve maximum effectiveness while minimizing the amount of training time necessary to develop combat readiness".If that there GOOD!
This quot is from the Moyyat schools.
moy4you 3 years ago
CenrionPrime why not????? if you softer why......
machkapudt 3 years ago
Can it be more gracefull then brutishness?
MartialArtNerd52475 3 years ago
Sparring yes fight.... Mostly no
XhessCake 3 years ago
ta weno cojonexd
MgWinLaDen 3 years ago
Ridiculous. Period.
DrTchoky 3 years ago
te estan enseñando las tecnicas, por eso parece que va lento o es una coroegrafia. Te invito a que pruebas una peleita con un maestro de wing tsun :)
Fytko 3 years ago
real easy when you use it against a opponent who doesn't fight back! your student for example!!
this is bollocks and is no WINGTSUN
oliebolli 3 years ago
and who in your opinion Mr Oliebolli knows "real" WingTsun? I am so tired of everyones infighting over who is the realdeal in WT, can't we just accept and honour the teachers who dedicate most of their lives to the art and stop bitching around??? Especially since most of those negative comments coem from people who are low level students themselves (if that)!?
difool23 3 years ago
why not? Because he uses only strength & strength alone, no concept of real WT. (using the opponents force)
And also; i 've never EVER witnessed an agressor (ring, or 'street'), that collapsed after a few punches!!! this is not REALISTIC. Guiterez is Kernspechts' bitch, but the bitch blakmails his pimp!!!
oliebolli 3 years ago 2
Well I can only repeat what I already said: Chill out dude, get a life. If you don't like it fine, but try to be better instead of bitching around. I don't agree with everything Leung Ting or Kernspecht say either, nor with what anyone else in the Kung Fu world does, but I think we should all have some respect for people who make this their life AND pass it on to others... just my opinion of course.
difool23 3 years ago
and anyway, what do you expect to see? broken bones and blood splatter, so it is more "realistic"?? this is an instructional video not some kind of splatter movie...
difool23 3 years ago
i rest my case, there is no cure for the stupid!
oliebolli 3 years ago
That's right, insult everyone and don't make any constructive comments, you obviously know how to contest an argument. Clearly you've understood the philosophy of martial arts... ;-)
difool23 3 years ago
mkay,
point one:
this is wing tsun, just one of it's many different forms,
there are definitely elements of wing tsun in there,
look at his posture,
slightly leaning back, hands placed directly behind each other,
look before you judge please...
gingin1992 3 years ago
if you are stronger than your enemy why to use his power(force) against him? ????
CenrionPrime 3 years ago
over kill?
MartialArtNerd52475 3 years ago