RE: MAC VS PC RAM Conundrum

[deks1976deks]

you have no i for what u see in this.. so much u have to know and so great was for this . tec will give us a world ... by the way tec is going down only 3 years left of this ..........

[niveceritt]

It would be great to see a video about buffered and unbuffered memory.

[mrbit10]

that is actually the next video to come

[niveceritt]

Awesome, cheers mrbit.

[AETonewaykilla]

SOMEONE TALK TO ME

im on cam and bored Qm

[RickArter]

Great video you summed it up way better they he did he just sounded very stupid left him a long comment speaking my mind.

Rick Arter

[blacksteel25]

Hey reaper, doesn't onboard video aka integrated use part of the regular RAM depending on how much you set in the bios.

Emeek, A separate video card isn't likely to take away the total video RAM. If that was true, then I would have 1.5GB of RAM. I did find out that my WinXP Pro has the PAE compatibility, but it's still limited to 4GB.

[zoulkyud]

Lol.  Emeeks facts are from apple insider. He is plagiarizing his comments.

[mrbit10]

Yea I see, vid response coming tonight.

[blacksteel25]

Lol. Emeeks facts are from apple insider. - zoul

Yes and I think I found the article, it's called "Road to Snow Leopard"

[emeek77]

i dont care what you load or dont load. WINDOWS CANT DO IT. Maybe mac couldnt either if it was like windows BUT IT ISNT. It cant do it no matter th reason. I dont care if it could, IT CANT.

[zoulkyud]

Windows server can. Emeek are you just making your facts up now? Does this even have a point. I use windows 64 bit for this reason.

[mrbit10]

sadly emeek you still do not understand what you read from that article, moreover there are problems with the article that they are not telling you. I will explain yet again. Your first vid is in essence the exact opposite of the article.

[SmittyxXx007]

personally I like PC's more than Macbooks. Altough I've have a macbook b4 but I do have a laptop. I think pc's are more fun too playaround with and u could do soo much more, like upgrade it change harddrives, new motherboard and much more. I think Macbooks are short of for lazy ppl because U don't really have too do much to them and pluse u wont know how to build a comp, my opinion.

[drgnxxx]

I agree with desktops, but I wouldn't want to build my own "all in one" or notebook, though an OCZ Barebone wouldn't be a bad idea ... hmmmm.

[zoulkyud]

You should explain the difference between vram and regular ram.  Emeek said your vram takes away from your regular ram. lol.

[reaper06221986]

i tried explaining that to him, he just is a complete retard, Vram and regular ram are two diff things, Vram is a primary ram that runs on the chipset based on the videocard/graphics card, i explained this in full, he mailed me back, insulting me, and shit so yah... you cant reason with a fanboy on mac....

[mrbit10]

yea, I have had a few of those PMs from him.

[emeek77]

hey can execute 64-bit code and handle 64-bit virtual memory, they still can't address more than 4GB of physical RAM, minus roughly 0.75 GB of MMIO, for a grant total of 3.2GB usable RAM. If you install a full 4GB, the portion in conflict with the MMIO will simply not be used. For PC users installing a high end video card with 1GB of VRAM, the additional MMIO becomes an even greater problem: their usable system RAM shrinks by down to around 2.3GB.

[zoulkyud]

Thats not how the video memory works. It isnt mapped to your usable physical memory. Emeek do you know anything about computers? Seriously. I can take a computer with a 32bit OS and internal graphics and map some of the physical memory to vram but not the other way around. Serious emeek, go read on how technology works. You are sounding like a fool.

[mrbit10]

emeek just copied his comment in text from the article, not his words.

[zoulkyud]

I know I was just joking. All this plagerism stuff has been quite funny. Emeek takes a lot of his work from other sources because he doesnt know anything about computers on his own.

[mrbit10]

I chuckle at his comments insisting PAE is the "reason" OS X sees 4 gig. He does not get it, if the max is 4 physical than PAE's overhead of indexing would inherently prevent the 4 gig reach. He does not understand that OS X 32 also does not have 100% avail 4 gig , it simply remaps because of the chip which in itself if no more phys mem is present, it causes overhead. will have vid tonite u will enjoy.

[mrbit10]

there is a contradiction within the article, clue is mobile chip (notebook), then see max ram on apple for notebooks then ask how is PAE helping again? ;)

[mrbit10]

no, I meant to say he was doing it again but tried to memorize parts instead of getting caught by searching the words. So he is stuck, 1. he gets caught by repeating word for word

2. he gets caught because is challenged on the context of what he said forcing the source.

[thekostlives]

You stupid cunt. Listen to your own stupidity for once. If he reads articles, information and knowledge, that means he "knows" what he is talking about because he is learning. Simply because he may not know as much as you ( you don't know as much as you claim) doesn't mean he is stupid. I can't wait to shit all over you!

[mrbit10]

is this addressed to me?

[1xxxxxxdreamxxxxxx1]

lmao ignore that moron lol, your a hero dude. Im already your biggest fan. thanks for your reply and channel comment too man really appreciate that, have you got any advice of a particular magazine I can read to learn or books or anything? thanks again man sorry to bother you.

[thekostlives]

You stupid cunt. Listen to your own stupidity for once. If he reads articles, information and knowledge, that means he "knows" what he is talking about because he is learning. Simply because he may not know as much as you ( you don't know as much as you claim) doesn't mean he is stupid. I can't wait to shit all over you!

[zoulkyud]

If he reads articles and doesnt understand them, or just reads them word for word then he is not learning anything until he is corrected. I understand you want to defend emeek and he is your buddy or something but he gets a lot of his facts wrong. Had he known what he was talking about he would have understood what the article meant. He simply needs to do more research before regurgitating an article. Also I never said he was stupid. You seem too angry over something trivial.

[reaper06221986]

Well no duh, how else do you expect a macfanboy to actually say his own shit when he takes it from other mactards out their, not dissing the macs, i kinda like macs, i just dont have one for video and music media, i just dont like macfanboys (like mactards) who pic one pc and they think its the best cause thats all they own and never even state anything thats truth, its like toshiba fanboys, alienware fanboys and so on, i just fanboys period, cause they are retards

[reaper06221986]

Wow, that explains nothing but using oppinions and making it seem factual, first off, VRAM and RAM are two diff types of components, VRAM operates ona kernal video based power systen, powering through the binary app. through the PCI-Express cards, in relivance running on a seperate power link to the OS, and any other application, whereass on RAM powers through the binary corelex through out a diff power tube, thus they dont take away from each other.

[reaper06221986]

As far as the usable and physicle RAM its all the same, if you use a RAM alloted amount to how much the OS can operate it at, it can only do so under that alloted amount and never above, the alloted amount prescribes to simply how the OS must be configured through a integers of polygons, polyers and binary compisitions and app. because physical memory has to be dated and encoded to be able to use the full amount of RAM the motherboard holds and it must be compatable to use within the OS.

[reaper06221986]

In the furthermore area of the onceptual image of windows only being able to use a sizable amount of RAM from the physical memory as oppose to it using the full size is absoletely false, your arguing with someone who has friends that work on hardware and software and make their own shit... i mean come on, quite talking out your ass emeek77, you just got fucking owned!

[mrbit10]

lol reaper, love the comments, i look at the great explanations and it reminds me of my frustration with youtube in the 500 char limit when I try to explain through comment. take care. I have another vid tonight.

[losslesscodecs]

As usual MrBit10 gets the 1st round knock out!

Awesome man!

[MissDjDePo]

I'd like to hear more about buffered vs. unbuffered memory in a future video.

[blacksteel25]

I'd like to hear more about buffered vs. unbuffered memory. - MissDFDePo

Buffered memory would be Error Correction Code or ECC for short. It's used for mostly servers to detect and correct memory errors. You would use ECC memory because it would provide higher stability over regular unbuffered RAM that normal home computers use. It's not to say unbuffered RAM isn't just as stable, but for critical things like servers ECC most commonly used for it.

[MissDjDePo]

Hey, thanks! Makes perfect sense.

[mindblast187]

explain the buffer please!

[drgnxxx]

Wow, great vid. It appears you were going off the top of your head too, you clearly have a grasp on the subject. :)

[Kalafut42]

you damn genius :)

[dragonballjiujitsu]

I don't game very much, so to me multitasking = better performance. My desktop system runs any single program as fast as I can click and type. load up 10-12 programs and things start to really slow down.

My Mac on the other hand runs single apps a little slower over all than my desktop but I can fire up 30-40 apps with little to no slow down.

[mrbit10]

cool I hear ya, hope all is well with you. :)

[theimacdude]

Just thought i'd let you know you've put Win23 instead of win 32 in the description - Nice video :)

[mrbit10]

lol, typical of me, I just fixed it, thanks.

[svtcontour]

Good video and very informative.

[gerv55]

So you mean emeek was wrong? Well i never, that doesn't happen often. Just everytime he opens his mouth. :P

[aussie114]

mrbit your the best at what you do, awesome video.

[GlockNinja]

I think Emeek knows a lot about certain applications and the OSX operating system but he seems to be incorrect a lot on hardware topics.

[brtidwell55]

Excellent vid. Explains memory usage and limitations quite well. As always, thanks for bringing some intelligence and sanity to the discussion.

[NoobReaper1]

Great vid i wish i had the knowledge you do always learn something new from your vids

[christheferal]

nice video! Can you do an un-buffered vs buffered ram video? I think I understand what it is, but you're a good teacher :P

[MacUndergroundPart2]

Once again, emeek talking out of his ass making a fool of himself. Careful mrbit10, you are going to be a blacklisted 'Mac Poser' now cause you went against the mighty emeek...

Thanks for clearing this up by the way. It means a lot more coming from a Mac user; if a PC guy had explained it, emeek and his cronies would have just blown it off.

[gr1moire2112]

Some good points raised.

[sicAntecP182]

Nice video, very well addressed

[bullboykennels]

good to see you back man, great vid.

[blacksteel25]

I need the junior bit version of this one, Mrbit, some of it just went over my head. A few parts I did get, but just glad to see you back making some great video's.

[mrbit10]

what did I lose you on? I did ramble too much though.

[thisithis]

Don't mind blacksteel25. He's just a moron.

[blacksteel25]

Don't mind blacksteel25. He's just a moron.

Ok seriously thisithis I don't try to insult you even if my view of your thinking is on the level of a conspiracy theorist. Also, what's wrong with me not completely understanding what Mrbit said in his video? I understand most of it, but some parts I didn't totally get. Excuse me for wanting to know more... Geesh..

[xXKingMicrosoftXx]

Don't mind thisithis, he is just mourning over the death of Captain America.

[masterd151]

Well put.

[stealmind]

Good video, 5 stars.

try being more concise.

[bamdadkhan]

i agree. nice video, but a bit messed up (no offnese). i'd like to see the 'fancy' demonstration of this in the future, if you have the time.