Nice, a lot of work has gone into creating these drills. How much efficiency is really in those spinning techniques? ;)
Which style of karate is this? I have done Goju Kensha for the last 15 years and our style focuses a lot more on close in techniques utilising the elbows and eye/throat/groin strikes a lot.
I assume you are using the wrong word; instead of "efficiency," you mean "power." Otherwise, I don't know what you mean when you use that word. And as for the power generation, spinning techniques can create significantly more power than non-spinning; for instance, rotating your hips 90 degrees as you throw geddan barrai creates more power. When we rotate their hips 180 during what you call a mawashi geri, more power is generated than stopping the hips.
@Pope2501 By efficiency I meant how much power for the amount of hip movement. I have been hit by martial artists who have refined the hip movement so their hips hardly move, the tips of their belts "twitch" - but in the same movement they can cut you in half with a strike or send you flying across the room. The large hip movement becomes a smaller, more internal energy rather than a large, outward display.
Don't think I meant to criticize, I meant only to question.
@cwm1 Yes i tottally agree, I train shotokan and I`ve felt the power my sensei (6 dan ) has when hitting me with a short kime, and barly twiching his hips, but that said its very important for beginners (9 kyu - 1 dan) to emphazise hip movement and correct teqnique. :-) ouss!!
First off I have to say your techniques are very smooth and nice.
But I was surprised how few strikes you did (only seven on your longest one) because in the style I take tang soo do, to go to black you have to do one one step with at least 21 strikes. I just got green and am looking for red and in my style what you are doing is just about my belt level so I will be stealing your stuff.
Another thing is I was surprised how few you did. When my sensie went to 3rd dan he had to do 100 each leg.
Are you preparing to show-off to your opponant or stop them from hurting you?
Personally, I think mine are too flashy, but the challenge that was set before me was to create a series of moves of high difficulty and high effectiveness. After snapping two ribs, breaking a nose, collapsing a knee and stomping someone's face... is there a need to do anything else? What's your goal?
good reply. 21 strikes in a one step, in tang soo do, never heard of such. I think that could qualify one for jail time first of all, and second it does seem not in the original martial spirit and heart of tang soo do. And saying "I will be stealing your stuff" is also unbecoming of a black belt candidate, very poor choice of words and approach. I would advice 'wraith' to learn more about respect and less about how many ways to kill someone.
First of all, I love how smooth the techniques are. :) Okay, I'm a green belt so I know that I shouldnt be saying much (you know, not as much experience, right? i understand your position :D ) im just asking, and kind of adding though. Alright, i noticed that you turn a little more in some techniques. Maybe if you move just a bit farther back you can spin, move your leg up a tad sooner and gain more power. maybe. (im trying here, i really dont want to offend) Again, very awesome job!
Take, thank you very much. You're correct about the distance. I had to close it in as a modification due to a pulled hamstring and a knee that... well, I don't know what was up with the the knee. But the turning and timing of the kicks is correct when considering that I'm not making full contact. If the kick wasn't pulled, the follow-through of the hips would have added more mass to the equation.
Excellent demonstration of targeting, control and advanced techniques. Thanks for sharing. To the commenters who complain it's not real enough: one steps are supposed to be somewhat dramatic but not necessarily "real". They are a tool for learning targeting and a way to demonstrate speed power and technique without anyone getting permanently injured.
Thank you, you're too kind. I should have been much stronger, aster and in better shape. But I was a lard... and still am. So, that's got to be addressed. But thank you.
BOOMER! Yeah, I know David. I remember him saying that he trained under Roy Kurbin. Next time you see him ask him if he remembers a guy named Melvin from the car dealership. Anyways...do you guys compete in tournaments and such?
Sorry, my mistake, you knew David McClleland, not Kestenbaum. Yes, he rememebers you! I still do a lot of competition. Dave does some but he's mainly hustling on Saturdays.
Wow!! In our school, any dan test is not open to external observers or to people of a lower grade, and 4th Dan tests are certainly only open to the examiner and afew other assistants. Dan test on youtube-what will people do next?
Oh, that's interesting! I think I understand why. It keeps it very private and personal. I can appreciate that.
Ours is open because at the point of testing it almost a forgone conclusion that the candidate will pass. We spend a great deal of time preparing for the test and this preparartion is the de facto litmus test for black belt. If you make it through the training requirements you are not likely to screw-up the test material. Thus the test is more of a formal performance.
Ours is private because its a test of the sensei's ability to the very extreme and the test of all his knowledge of technique, so respect for the art and the artists dictates that our dan test should not be exposed to junior belts like a road show. In Okinawa daily training itself used to be private.
I take issue with your characterization of this as a "road show," and your assumption that any style has the same material for an advanced proponent as for a beginner. And what is IOGKF? It's not a commonly heard accronym.
Beyond those issues, I tell you that the purpose of "exposing" the test to outsiders and lower ranks is to inspire some to attain higher achievement. And it is nigh impossible to learn 4th dan material from watching a test once.
Also, if they watch this video and learn the one-steps or forms... so what? It's still a lower belt trying to perform an advanced form and apply advanced technique.
I don't believe in the magic of karate/taekwondo/tangsoodo technique. It's very simple and explainable and needs not be a secret, clouded with mystery like a Machiavelian, clandestine discipline. it could be recreated with a logical progression of invention and discovery.
Lastly, prior to the test a "sensei's" will, skill and fortitude is put the test over a period of six or more weeks on a nightly basis; each night with a requisit improvement in technique, physicallity, performance. Thus we, my taekwondo school, turn-out tougher, smarter, better black belts than other schools and some other whole systems of karate/taekwondo/tangsoodo.
I've been watching videos for ages looking for some techniques for a competition, and overall Youtube was crap. But I've never seen anyone pull the back hand of the attacker off the hip and then use it to pull them in for a front kick. I'll think I'll steal that, cheers!
"Go out and do" meaning you wouldn't jump-kick someone on the street? Yeah, maybe not. Likely, just a kick tothe groin and eye gauge. But after mastering those two moves, why are we practicing anything? i thought we were into self-elevation... maybe that goal is too lofty. Are we training to fight other martial artists? Hmm, that doesn't seem real to me either. It's sport and it has value but it's not real in the sense of self-defense. Real is simple, everything else is just becasue we CAN.
So, you think karate practice should be on the street, against thugs and dregs who might have weapons, guns, diseases, etc? Hmm, yeah that would be really in-step with the ideals of martial arts. NOT!
The practice is as it is becasue it yields positive results. Not becasue of tradition or display purposes. But thank you for asking.
Yes, it is TKD. But thus begins the duscussion,"What is Taekwondo?" And we find that we have no specific answer... so, it's easierto just say,"It is." And we can agree to call it, arbitrarily, "Taekwondo." Now, you can take an expansionist or contractionist p.o.v. and discuss that...
I can't say I find you comment interesting but I will respond. You're right. The most benefit from one-step sparring is the development of timing, balance, distancing, flow of techniques, understanding of both application and generation of power. Is it applicable "on the street"? Yes and no.
The block and immediate follow-up is applicable. Beyond that, it's mainly a challenge of the areas I described prior. So your comment "at all" is invalid. However, it is not likely that I would leg-throw a 300 lbs person in a fight. I would, however take someone's knife away and cut them with it; in the EXACT manner of the final one-step in this video.
(And actually... A LOT of people stand with their hand out wiating to get beat up when they don't expect that you will block the first punch!! Try it!)
lots of spinning!
SuperSneakySteve 11 months ago
Nice, a lot of work has gone into creating these drills. How much efficiency is really in those spinning techniques? ;)
Which style of karate is this? I have done Goju Kensha for the last 15 years and our style focuses a lot more on close in techniques utilising the elbows and eye/throat/groin strikes a lot.
cwm1 1 year ago
@cwm1
I assume you are using the wrong word; instead of "efficiency," you mean "power." Otherwise, I don't know what you mean when you use that word. And as for the power generation, spinning techniques can create significantly more power than non-spinning; for instance, rotating your hips 90 degrees as you throw geddan barrai creates more power. When we rotate their hips 180 during what you call a mawashi geri, more power is generated than stopping the hips.
Taekwondo. I'm now a 5th dan.
Pope2501 1 year ago
@Pope2501 By efficiency I meant how much power for the amount of hip movement. I have been hit by martial artists who have refined the hip movement so their hips hardly move, the tips of their belts "twitch" - but in the same movement they can cut you in half with a strike or send you flying across the room. The large hip movement becomes a smaller, more internal energy rather than a large, outward display.
Don't think I meant to criticize, I meant only to question.
cwm1 11 months ago
@cwm1 Yes i tottally agree, I train shotokan and I`ve felt the power my sensei (6 dan ) has when hitting me with a short kime, and barly twiching his hips, but that said its very important for beginners (9 kyu - 1 dan) to emphazise hip movement and correct teqnique. :-) ouss!!
attal77 8 months ago
It was nice.
Who you trained under?
Kinghercules 1 year ago
@Kinghercules
Thanks.
Roy Kurban.
Pope2501 1 year ago
great performance
Why there are also Taekwondoin wathcing in the test?
buri2zaemon 1 year ago
ooo me likey. There's really no way to get this guy, huh? You cant kick him, punch him, stab him or beat him.
TheRealLingrush 1 year ago
good school
WindRider707 1 year ago
That was very nicely done! Congratulations, really clean techniques and entertaining.
hee6969 1 year ago
how many techniques TO GET THE FIRST BLACK BELT ?
esmaelooo 2 years ago
Clarify, please?
Pope2501 2 years ago
@Pope2501 i think you deserve the rank. very well executed techniques you practice for this. i can see that what style are you i am kyokushin karate.
edlo123 1 year ago
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@Pope2501
i meant self defence techniques
esmaelooo 1 year ago
First off I have to say your techniques are very smooth and nice.
But I was surprised how few strikes you did (only seven on your longest one) because in the style I take tang soo do, to go to black you have to do one one step with at least 21 strikes. I just got green and am looking for red and in my style what you are doing is just about my belt level so I will be stealing your stuff.
Another thing is I was surprised how few you did. When my sensie went to 3rd dan he had to do 100 each leg.
wraithirteen 2 years ago
Are you preparing to show-off to your opponant or stop them from hurting you?
Personally, I think mine are too flashy, but the challenge that was set before me was to create a series of moves of high difficulty and high effectiveness. After snapping two ribs, breaking a nose, collapsing a knee and stomping someone's face... is there a need to do anything else? What's your goal?
Pope2501 2 years ago
good reply. 21 strikes in a one step, in tang soo do, never heard of such. I think that could qualify one for jail time first of all, and second it does seem not in the original martial spirit and heart of tang soo do. And saying "I will be stealing your stuff" is also unbecoming of a black belt candidate, very poor choice of words and approach. I would advice 'wraith' to learn more about respect and less about how many ways to kill someone.
WindRider707 1 year ago
@Pope2501 I strongly agree wif U ..
azeeque94 1 year ago
First of all, I love how smooth the techniques are. :) Okay, I'm a green belt so I know that I shouldnt be saying much (you know, not as much experience, right? i understand your position :D ) im just asking, and kind of adding though. Alright, i noticed that you turn a little more in some techniques. Maybe if you move just a bit farther back you can spin, move your leg up a tad sooner and gain more power. maybe. (im trying here, i really dont want to offend) Again, very awesome job!
TakekuraKaze 2 years ago
Take, thank you very much. You're correct about the distance. I had to close it in as a modification due to a pulled hamstring and a knee that... well, I don't know what was up with the the knee. But the turning and timing of the kicks is correct when considering that I'm not making full contact. If the kick wasn't pulled, the follow-through of the hips would have added more mass to the equation.
Pope2501 2 years ago
@Pope2501 Awesome, and thanks for understanding! :)
TakekuraKaze 5 months ago
that's great stuff. All TKD should be like that
sagagossard 2 years ago
Thank you. You're too kind.
Pope2501 2 years ago
Excellent demonstration of targeting, control and advanced techniques. Thanks for sharing. To the commenters who complain it's not real enough: one steps are supposed to be somewhat dramatic but not necessarily "real". They are a tool for learning targeting and a way to demonstrate speed power and technique without anyone getting permanently injured.
cyberben3d 3 years ago
Thank you, you're too kind. I should have been much stronger, aster and in better shape. But I was a lard... and still am. So, that's got to be addressed. But thank you.
Pope2501 2 years ago
You sure don't move like a lard - I love the one @ 3:17
cyberben3d 2 years ago
BOOMER! Yeah, I know David. I remember him saying that he trained under Roy Kurbin. Next time you see him ask him if he remembers a guy named Melvin from the car dealership. Anyways...do you guys compete in tournaments and such?
SoonerNation05 3 years ago
Sorry, my mistake, you knew David McClleland, not Kestenbaum. Yes, he rememebers you! I still do a lot of competition. Dave does some but he's mainly hustling on Saturdays.
Pope2501 3 years ago
I think I know the last guy that you paired with...I used to work with him. I think his name is David. You from Texas?
SoonerNation05 3 years ago
Yes, That's David Kestenbaum. I am from Texas, although born in Oklahoma. (SOO-NAHS!)
David is an old friend and an excellent fighter and I am training hard to beat him -- which he knows.
Pope2501 3 years ago
I'm gonna agree with mysteriousw...I love that one when you pull his back hand towards you and such...I'm gonna steal it!
SoonerNation05 3 years ago
Thank you! Please, do steal it. Please, I humbley ask that it be called "Mitchell one-steo number one, 4th dan."
It is in dedication to my Grandmaster Roy Kurban and his Grandmaster Won Chik Park.
Pope2501 3 years ago
Wow!! In our school, any dan test is not open to external observers or to people of a lower grade, and 4th Dan tests are certainly only open to the examiner and afew other assistants. Dan test on youtube-what will people do next?
Pecherin72 3 years ago
Oh, that's interesting! I think I understand why. It keeps it very private and personal. I can appreciate that.
Ours is open because at the point of testing it almost a forgone conclusion that the candidate will pass. We spend a great deal of time preparing for the test and this preparartion is the de facto litmus test for black belt. If you make it through the training requirements you are not likely to screw-up the test material. Thus the test is more of a formal performance.
Pope2501 3 years ago
Ours is private because its a test of the sensei's ability to the very extreme and the test of all his knowledge of technique, so respect for the art and the artists dictates that our dan test should not be exposed to junior belts like a road show. In Okinawa daily training itself used to be private.
Pecherin72 3 years ago
I will add that there are many things taught to a 4th Dan which IOGKF will not teach a 9th kyu beginner or a 1st Dan, hence the need for privacy.
Pecherin72 3 years ago
You use "weasel words" in your commenting.
I take issue with your characterization of this as a "road show," and your assumption that any style has the same material for an advanced proponent as for a beginner. And what is IOGKF? It's not a commonly heard accronym.
Beyond those issues, I tell you that the purpose of "exposing" the test to outsiders and lower ranks is to inspire some to attain higher achievement. And it is nigh impossible to learn 4th dan material from watching a test once.
Pope2501 3 years ago
Also, if they watch this video and learn the one-steps or forms... so what? It's still a lower belt trying to perform an advanced form and apply advanced technique.
I don't believe in the magic of karate/taekwondo/tangsoodo technique. It's very simple and explainable and needs not be a secret, clouded with mystery like a Machiavelian, clandestine discipline. it could be recreated with a logical progression of invention and discovery.
Pope2501 3 years ago
Lastly, prior to the test a "sensei's" will, skill and fortitude is put the test over a period of six or more weeks on a nightly basis; each night with a requisit improvement in technique, physicallity, performance. Thus we, my taekwondo school, turn-out tougher, smarter, better black belts than other schools and some other whole systems of karate/taekwondo/tangsoodo.
Pope2501 3 years ago
I've been watching videos for ages looking for some techniques for a competition, and overall Youtube was crap. But I've never seen anyone pull the back hand of the attacker off the hip and then use it to pull them in for a front kick. I'll think I'll steal that, cheers!
mysteriousw 3 years ago
I don't know, man, I think I was in fantasy land there for a while. It was just for show anyway.
Pope2501 3 years ago
I was actually going to use that in competition, but then my partner broke a bone in his ankle in an earlier event :/
mysteriousw 3 years ago
I would like to see the knife defense against an attacker who would not be that passive to your techniques
fussions65 4 years ago
very unreal, karate is for real live no coreography
orbelus 4 years ago
Thanks Tips, this is not something I would go out and do either. But you are ignorant for posting dumb comments and bashing others.
hibikicade 4 years ago
"Go out and do" meaning you wouldn't jump-kick someone on the street? Yeah, maybe not. Likely, just a kick tothe groin and eye gauge. But after mastering those two moves, why are we practicing anything? i thought we were into self-elevation... maybe that goal is too lofty. Are we training to fight other martial artists? Hmm, that doesn't seem real to me either. It's sport and it has value but it's not real in the sense of self-defense. Real is simple, everything else is just becasue we CAN.
Pope2501 3 years ago
So, you think karate practice should be on the street, against thugs and dregs who might have weapons, guns, diseases, etc? Hmm, yeah that would be really in-step with the ideals of martial arts. NOT!
The practice is as it is becasue it yields positive results. Not becasue of tradition or display purposes. But thank you for asking.
Pope2501 3 years ago
1 question, why did you go so hard on the last guy...
MertezAad 4 years ago
The last guy? uh, becasue I thought he could take it... or maybe I'm just a jerk. Yeah, I sholdn't have hit him like that.
Pope2501 3 years ago
Love the jump back kick off the mark! Thanks for that (I was supposed to test for 4th this weekend but sprained my ankle in a hockey game)
Timing is great, creativity is high - I'll be watching this several times over the next few months.
flagg209 4 years ago
*blush* Thank you!
I hope you recover quickly!
Pope2501 4 years ago
GOES ON A BIT TO LONG I THINK
tkdgaz 4 years ago
wait, is this TKD?
brageritu 4 years ago 2
Yes, it is TKD. But thus begins the duscussion,"What is Taekwondo?" And we find that we have no specific answer... so, it's easierto just say,"It is." And we can agree to call it, arbitrarily, "Taekwondo." Now, you can take an expansionist or contractionist p.o.v. and discuss that...
Pope2501 4 years ago
doesnt seem realistic at all no one punches and then stands with their hand out waiting to get beaten up
lajka989 4 years ago
I can't say I find you comment interesting but I will respond. You're right. The most benefit from one-step sparring is the development of timing, balance, distancing, flow of techniques, understanding of both application and generation of power. Is it applicable "on the street"? Yes and no.
Pope2501 4 years ago
The block and immediate follow-up is applicable. Beyond that, it's mainly a challenge of the areas I described prior. So your comment "at all" is invalid. However, it is not likely that I would leg-throw a 300 lbs person in a fight. I would, however take someone's knife away and cut them with it; in the EXACT manner of the final one-step in this video.
Pope2501 4 years ago
(And actually... A LOT of people stand with their hand out wiating to get beat up when they don't expect that you will block the first punch!! Try it!)
Pope2501 4 years ago
you are a goober, Pope. And also, 1,389 peoplpe have viewed this video. nice.
i love you!
aeconnell 4 years ago
a goober? geeze, i'm blushing!
Pope2501 4 years ago
wow your pretty good.. im working my way up to 1st dan.. haha
any god tips to help me prepare?
mkalanz 4 years ago
Oh boy.........4th Dan?
tabkatoro 4 years ago
Ye! Trying to find best thing to do before I'm up for 5th dan in 2010. Climb a mountain or something.
Pope2501 4 years ago
Awesome one-steps. I loved the move at 2:08!
EleManT24 4 years ago
Thanks!
Pope2501 2 years ago