They should institute automatic and rider deployable air bags on their leathers. Will take the brunt of impact. When you get hit that hard by something that heavy you're going to have massive internal bleeding. An airbag may allow him to be injured but alive! Of course you can never say to what extent an airbag might work but better to have it. RIP Marco you were a good guy and a good racer!
Wrong ! Too fast into corner unloads weight from rear wheel and causes rear wheel to spin up and the line of rubber is not on the white line. It was just a mistake that sadly cost a great racer his life. I will miss him as will many others. I wish I could have thanked him for what he gave to us as spectators.
0:47 - there the moment hes bike tires lost grip, there no white line yet have been touched! look at the black line on the track when he start slide .
The white line had nothing to do with it. Watch for the instant you first see the darker the front tire is leaving on the track. It is before the white line and if you notice it comes very close to but never touches it. Marco simply pushed a cold tire too far and the front folded on him. In classic Marco fashion he gave it his all to recover and when the bike regained traction it sent him across the track.
Around 29 seconds in you see Marco giving it a hand full throttle, I wonder if he changed down a gear before entering the corner and due to the increased RPM of running on the smallest section of the tyre on full lean angle and fresh tyres it locked up the rear wheel and instead of it looking like he`s spinning up the rear wheel he has locked up the rear wheel ?? causing the rear of the bike to drift left and steer the bike into the infield
search colin edwards..elbow save. he does the exact same thing, i think it was practice, but doesnt look like he was going half as fast. he saved, but who knows if guys are racing by at 160. i wonder if red.white area is sticky to leathers compared to pavement.
i only wonder very deep how the bike did not slide out of the track but instead make a turn in to the center of the track , i mean coming in the inerside of the track and not as usual hapens when the bike slides , usualy when the bike slides goes out of track ...i realy do not understand
i think he just got too far over and then brushed the raised red/white boundry line which threw his body off balance. see his elbow brush the red/white. he would have been ok if it wasnt fro the raised red/white. once he got out of position, he basically had to ride it out till he could slow down. now way to climb back up going that fast without crashing. take a look at the crash part, he is still way out of position on the bike. he was just trying to slow down, when WHAM.
@SGDeGalvez I agree with your comment. It appears his elbow scraping the ground caused his weight to be thrown off far to the right and at that point your momentum would just carry you in that direction. Maybe had he ejected himself from the bike it would have slid off the track and not not put him right into the path of the other 2 riders but he was most likely trying to save himself and the bike rather than fall. They aren't considering death in the moment, only the race itself.
@MRgreentree428 ya, thnx for the reply. I imagine, these riders are perfectly balanced during 99% of the race. Just on these sharp turns, the margin for error is slim. It looks like he got dragged back on the red/white just a tad and he had to make a choice, let the bike go where it will or hang with it till the grass, then try to lay down. just bad luck he got crushed
@SGDeGalvez I don't get SPEED channel and wasn't able to follow last years races thoroughly, but I found a download for the Indianapolis Race and got it. Don't know where along the season before Sepang, but its really amazing to think you follow all these great riders and people. See their every move game to game, and then to watch one's life tragically cut short is extremely intense. He was only 2 years older than me. Few sports have that risk, but few have the rewards as well.
it is very possible that his knee had touch with the white-red corner and than bike had lifted up ,in that way lost grip the reason is probably that ...
@theufwik I agree with you. The rear tire was spinning before contacting the white line. you can clearly see the rubber being laid on the track before the tire comes close to the white line. The white line was definitely not the cause. RIP Marco
it's obvious that his front tire slid on the white line- you see it happen. it's just that the camera is from the back. His front tire hit the white line, slid just a bit & Marco kept the throttle on to try to pull out. it's as if he were leaning away from the outer part of the turn to keep from sliding out.
doesnt even touch the white line, that black line... that is the track of his tyre, doesn't even touch it. you really don't have a clue what you are yalking about. RIP Super Sic #58
You obviously know nothing about riding a bike, as the front had already lost traction before he even apexed, hence the line of black rubber. Before you comment or make stupid videos like this think.
Looks like he had a little too much drag brake and lost the front. I don't see what you are selling. This guy was a really good raw talent. Would have been great to see him on the "factory" bikes.
it doesn't look like he hit the paint. you can see the trail of rubber the tire is leaving just as he is about to apex. Right at 0:13s the skidding starts just before he hits the apex. maybe he just went too hard in the first couple laps on cold tires. either way may he rest in peace. I was really looking forward to his future in motogp...so sad :(
marco brakes too hard whilst leaning the bike into the corner causing the front wheel to slide underneath him
his rear tyre was nowhere near the line so you are wrong i'm afraid
he lost his life due to losing his safety helmet and the bike behind him had no chance of getting out of the way thus hitting marco on his head as his helmet comes off killing him instantly
mrtm140 is right. The black line starts well before Marco's front tyre hits the white paint. Clearly the front tyre was already sliding and he had already lost control about a metre before he hit the painted line. Even then his tire was only a little way over the white line and probably not far enough over it to cause loss of grip.
u are wrong,and if he touch white line but he didnt ,again tire should hold grip.this is not paint on the road.it was just bad luck,crash,two very fast riders behind with no chance to avoid crash with marco.
If it was the line, then it was a minor glitch that he would have been able to control. At the end of the day it was a racing accident, one that he was almost certain to have. Thank God it resulted in his own death and not of somebody else.
Looks to me he just leaned a little too far or he locked the rear brake because I see some braking tire mark before he hits the Apex of the turn. What also could have caused him to fall to the side of the bike is opening the throttle too much to where it brings the bike up faster than it would with the rider coming up with the bike. RIP #58
i'm sorry , but you are wrong and blind, because the tyres did not come close to the white painted line at all and in fact it lost control before even apexing . the black line proves that.
I loved Marco as a rider and a personality of the sport. Big loss.
I loved watching Marco ride and what you are saying is correct, but it's nothing new. The white line is especially slippery when wet and certainly not high on traction when dry. If you've ever actually ridden, you'd know that Marco tried to ride this out, instead of letting the bike go. Choosing to ride this out meant a high risk of staying in the racing line. I wish he let it go and slid off the track, he was fun to watch.
i see what you mean, it looks like a blob of oil that his front tyre hit just before skidding. thats the dangers of racing tho dude. life is never fair. r.i.p marco.
No, when its hot and in dry conditions the white line is grippy, like the rumble strips, it's only when it's wet the white lines a treacherous. He lost the front, and was stuck to the bike while it was sliding on the ground, and got hit twice, and that's it, end of story. R.I.P
First of all @sayhai you are a dimwit! And it is 100% the race accident. And jeez there are some really dumb retarded comments on this vid.
Anyhow did the poster actually put the comments in he same vid as we see here? As its bloody obvious neither wheel touches the line. And it's obvious why hat as he got tie he corner apex he started to tap the throttle on, he lost the front an back at roughly the same time and low sided the bike, unfortunately for simoncelli there was just enough grip on the
is this even the original video of simoncelli??i think this is fake........watch the video where simoncellu crash and you'll find out simoncelli didn't fell in that angle....
@razv23 im sure in not retard....if i am,i'm sorry..but please take a look on the real video and do some thinking...in this video,the guy have almost fell and he totatly lost control of the bike,in the "REAL" video,simon still hanging on the bike and the bike is turning to right so hard........anyway,R.I.P simoncelli,just let that guy rest in peace with god.
@razv23 im sorry if i didnt' make any sense.btw just chill ok....let the guy rest in peace.im sure he doesnt want anyone to make a big deal about this video.
@menzerna1234 "This is the PRICE you pay, when you want to be DIFFERENT." so you would be happy if all cultures and ideas just poofed?, want a singular languege too? people can do whatever they want with their lives, not everyone wants to have a mediocre exsistance like you.
A mediocre life gives you more assurance that you won't end up paralysed or dead caused by INTENTIONAL ABUSE of your life.
If you don't want a mediocre life, and you want to show off fame and glory by doing dangerous things......then ensure your loved ones don't cry and moan and sob when you end up dead or paralysed for life
@menzerna1234 At least he made something of his life doing something he loved. His family and friends knew the risks as anyone does when involved in motorsport. He may have died, but him and all his friends and family would be happy he died doing something he loved. He pushed for thrills such as human nature craves (well in most people) and as @Rcrby525 said you live a mediocre life sitting inside all day having no thrills whatsoever..
What the hell is that ? It's another crash ! You can't put your bike back on the road so easily after the reer goes of ! Idiots ! Stop making tricked videos and think a bit about this poor guy...
This is what I saw after I also watched the crash MANY times. What I see is Marco in a slide, and loses the front tire. I believe he was trying to let go of the bike in a low side. Notice how he raises his left leg off the bike, as if to prepare to let it go. Once he was off the throttle it appears to me the bike gains its grip when the torque decreased. This will in effect cause the bike to shoot across the track because of the slower speed gaining a tighter turn ratio. By then it was too late.
do you not see his right elbow hit the banking of the rumble strip? his elbow hit and the banking increase and his arms impact / push him upright farther than he was prepared for// and could not counteract the traslation from bump to lean angle and traction ...... his right hand is ^also blipping the throttle under downshift right before his elbow hit../, his torque range in this shot "could have" been high revs and sudden arm movment "could have" had unintended consequences..
I noticed too. in some ways I noticed that an observation is wrong if you saw on the video his front wheel lost traction before the white line. It just made it worse but anyway r.i.p.
Regarding your observations: there was a problem before he hit the line, and 2nd, the back tire never really seems to fully touch it. By the time he was hit in cross traffic, he had lost speed, was falling off the right side with his helmet dragging the ground, looking backwards. 1st, we don't drag our helmets looking backwards. Secondly, we know how to right ourselves and our machines.
@dmeans82 Dude it was an accident if you were in that situation you would panic and all the training and shit would go out the window you panic you don't think straight this is why he probably didn't try to upright the bike
you make him sound like he wasn't trained for this like hes just a another kid trying ride a bike stop bigging yourself up and think about what happened that day RIP MARCO SIMONCELLI
pretty obvious you have no experience racing, and know nothing about motogp. First, if you knew what you were looking for you would see the black mark being made on the track long before he touched the paint, thats when the front end started sliding. Second, if you knew anything about motogp, you would know that all painted surfaces used on tracks that MotoGp and WSBK run on use a special, FIM approved paint that provides grip levels identical to the unpainted surfaces.
A question, After he lost control he is sliding/going from right to left then when Edwards and Rossi hit him he was sliding/going left to right. The question is: Where is the footage when he changed direction??? it seems at some point he recover the bike and then something happen that make the sliding direction change. As people complaining about why asking, well we want to understand how this kind of freak accident happened in today modern motorsport so we could avoid those in the future.
@Divyatutsie yo m8 it was not dumb I just talk to a biker and he gave me the explanation: The problem on a bike comes when you try to save it. Bikes, having only two wheels and very little contact with the road, are VERY susceptible to grip changes. Simoncelli did what we all do: He tried to save it. Once he did that rather than just laying it down, the tires actually got some grip and started turning the bike back to the right. He had hoped that if he could get it to grip it would stand back up
He rode the bike of the edge of the tyre and inside of just sliding away like normal, the tyres continued to grip and forced him into the path of Edwards and Rossi, complete freak accident.
U can see the slide marks from he's tires none of them touch the line. It doesn't matter what happened. A young and great rider lost he's life. Rip marco
No one is to blame for this crash it was a racing accident, all the people involved will be feeling terrible and they don't need anyone pointing the finger of blame at them. God bless you Marco RIP
@trickmastermonkey I think it was rossi front tire that ripped his helmet off that caused his death. Seeing him slide across the track I knew there was no coming back from a crash like that' RIP SIMONCELLI
His front tyre lost grip before the white line... You can clearly see the black line left on the tarmac far away from the white painted line so personally I disagree
It would appear that he just lost the front end like so many riders do during a race weekend, especially as he was pushing hard to get away from bautista on cold tyres ,have watched this video over and over and feel that it was rossi foot peg that hooked the back of simoncellis helmet breaking his neck as i ripped the helmet off and flung marco out in front of all the bikes .A most upsetting outcome a real shame wish someone could bring him back.
@wstievano That is exactly what I was thinking. The front tire lost pressure possibly which caused the blacvk trail mark to come from behind the bike. Note that if the rear tire had loss pressure, the rear end would have slid from under him. The rear end didnt and the front end did...
Super Sic simply lost grip, possibly because his right arm and footpeg hit the rumblegrid or maybe his tyres hadn't fully warmed up, and this caused him to lose balance and half fall off the bike. He hung on and tried to right it again but unfortunately the tyres regained grip, he couldn't "save" the low-side and he shot across into the path of Edwards and Rossi. It's a tragic accident that we might be able to learn from but nothing could have saved him. Ciao Super Sic #58.
Maybe. The paint on the curbs is formulated to be non-skid, and they ride over it all the time. I have never crashed while pushing the tires hard and hitting one of the lines, but it could happen, I guess. In any case, he clearly lost both ends, and had the throttle cracked open from having his weight suspended by his hands while trying to hang on to the bike, so he squirted across Edwards and Vale's path. If he had let go of the bike it might have saved him. Not much time to think at 120mph.
I agree with 4everkokonut, the tyres never touched the white line, you can see the thin black tyre mark being made on the track surface. It looks like he fainted or something. He didn't loose balance. Either way I'm so sad that he died, he was an awesome rider, an awesome guy, what a dreadful shame. Ride on Marco
No, doesn't seem like the tires lost traction here, it would have been obvious. It appears that Simoncelli lost conscience for whatever reason, hence the body that fell completely to the side. This wasn't by any means an attempt to straighten the bike.
@4everkokonut You are pretty stupid to think he lost consciousness, unconscious riders don't hold onto bikes, he low sided, the black line is the tyre slipping, the tyre regained its grip and because Simoncelli was hanging off the bike trying to save it, the sudden grip caused the swerve back across the track, the only reason he managed to keep on the bike is because he had his knee down.
He low sided, anyone who knows anything about bikes and racing knows how a bike reacts to it.
@4everkokonut Its pretty clear he didn't loose consciousness, he still has body movement while he was sliding and then just before he got hit.
And just because i point out a simple fact about it i have no respect? No respect is even starting conspiracy theories about it, I ride bikes, i have done for 7 years, i understand the way bikes react to certain things, maybe you should understand these before posting comments about it.
@chrishowe I don't care how many years you've ridden or not a motorcycle, "respect" means not calling anybody who disagrees with you 'stupid' or other insulting words. These have no place in a civilized discussion.
@4everkokonut Well use some knowledge and understand what happens when a bike is sliding and how riders react before making, quite frankly, ridiculous assumptions.
Doesnt look like he touched any lines to me, he was laying down blackies but that doesnt mean he was spinning either, see them all the time, pretty normal, he just lost it and couldnt regain it. I think he tried to and this is what made him cross over so fast, he was countersteering to get the bike up on its tires but it was too far over to catch.
He and Depuniet were the only two with the 'extra hard' rear option. Baustista was swapping postions and Marco was riding hard. A few corners before you can see his rear shudder under throttle. And he didn't let it go, but hung on as the bike veered. No chance at any speed with two simultaneous collisions. (Personal story: 2010 LaGuna Seca- I handed Marco a paper coffee cup and a Sharpie and he laughed and cheerfully signed. Miss him.
@jkkavan At last some one who knows something (harder tyre and riding hard and only L2). Some of the speculation on here is crazy. Even saw on another vid someone saying he was dead before the colission. Pha! I've been watching bike racing since the days Harada and Biaggi and Capriossi had crazy 250cc races and have long been a biker myself. I put my take below.
@jkkavan actually everyone was runing the same exept for marco, he was the only one with the harder rear. The comentators was saying it while lap t2 was going on and after they said it the crash happened...
a meter or so just before he went onto the white line you could see the tire making a very dark black line if you slowmo the vid you can see that black line doesnt touch the white line, he was leaning just a inch to much. RIP Marco Simoncelli
Also im not being funny, but when the adrenaline is pumping people fall over when carrythings, please STOP Blaming everyone else, as i said below it was a VERY TRAGIC ACCIDENT, lets just respect his Memory.
Im Sorry, but there is no may that Marcos tyres hit the white line you can see a clear bit of track at all times, please dont try and use this incident, to put the blame on anyone or anything, it was a tragic ACCIDENT and thats unfortunately is all it was, rather than trying to assume something how about respecting Marcos Memory and help his family to deal with this terrible ACCIDENT, And also spare a thought for both Valentino Rossi and Colin Edwards, RIP Marco Simoncelli
I dont think it was the white line , by what i can see Marco was leaning a bit to much and there was no way he could bring the bike back up , ok white line must ve help towards the accident , but i think he over done a bit on the leaning
you fools no one was to blame here its just a freak accident! A) the white line dose not mark the racing line and B) the red and white striped corner is slightly raised if you look closely Simoncelli does take the corner to tight (like many others before him. no blame!)
This bumps him and he looses his left foot peg, if this happens especialy with the new rossi leg hang in to the corner you have no feet on the pegs and no way to stand the bike up at those speeds. it was the bravest moterbike riding i have ever seen !!!!!!!! any other rider would have just let go of the bike and slid safely down the track. simoncelli held on to the end showing not only his comitment to motogp but his skill, heart, and bravery
It would have been better if he had just slid off but he was so determined as a rider and pressure from team he was determined to stay on his bike, i do think though both riders behind him could done better to avoid him, if colln had went wide it would have given rossi the room to avoid marco, he was a great rider with great skill and had no way of knowing what was going on behind him, i think he was the next rossi
if you look good his rear rim start blocking on 0:45 sec. the cause on that was he was thinking he's going to fast in the corner and start breaking.Or maybe the break pedal was touching the ground (curves)
Every time I see the footage, I feel sad; he was going to be the next big thing, a couple of years guidance and he would've been world champion. Definately had the makings of one. Even with his hilarious hair. RIP Marco, the racing world will miss you...
he suppose to not hold the handle after he collapse, maybe he try to get safe landing on granite safe zone on his right side rather than left side, by the way, it just happened...what a sad, sleep tight marco..._from Malaysia
snurge69 is right.. those tracks were tested in many ways b4 FIA gave the green light.... the accident was caused by a simple lowside and nothing more
i could be wrong, but i've watched this clip numerous times and I don't think the tire does run over the white line... not the rear tire at least. It also seems to me that because the front tire is much narrower than the rear, that unless the rear is sliding more than the front that if the rear does not go over the line, then neither did the front. I believe the crash was, as some other comments mentioned, caused by a simple lowside but that the white line is not what caused the lowside.
Leave it to the professionals, it was nothing to do with the white lines, his back tyre was even on it, his back wheel was spinning up before then, you can clearly see that on the track
Novice rider (not allowed out of the paddock yet ) here, but when he breached the red n white, did his right leg get pinned by both the foot peg and the bike itself? I wonder because when he realised he was losing control, his left leg does that jiggling as if he was in pain.
Hale and Farewell, Marco. What a horrible thing to happen to such a nice fella, and a crap situ for Rossi and Edwards....
Not read other posts. Marco was running the harder rear. Pusing hard on a cold tyre (L2) he lays a darkie from the rear = rear grip compromised = more pressure on front to grip = front pushes = both tyres slide but do not leave the tarmac = bike slows = tyres regain grip but bike position (rear slipped first = 'oversteer') bike tracks across track. The bit I don't get is why Marco held on so long. He couldn't upright it (leg flat 2 ground)& if he had uprighted the bike both would highside. IMO.
The tyre loose grip on the white line, because the white line was made from thermoplastic, slippery than asphalt, and it seem something went wrong why he couldn't getting loose from the bike..
then again if you look seconds before the crash he had almost recovered from the slide had it not have been for him getting cleaned up he most likely would still be here to this day
and as for the bike locking up if you look close it looks like his foot was on the brake and it hit the ground causing the bike to lock up and i myself have done that a few times while racing motocross when i was younger and i know that its different but its the same kind of concept
ok for all you fuckheads that think that the cause of his fatal crash was the white wrong leaning over to far can cause the bike to slide but if u also look again as he starts to come into the corner he leans to far and as for the fatal blow if you have ever had a helmet on before and had someone try to pull it up from the back while the strap was tightened then you would feel the pressure applied to your neck now also imaginethe amount of force applied in this situation so all you dicks r wrong
Marco looks to be 'stuck' on his bike. Most times you either slide off, get high sided or however it goes, you seperate from the bike. Going off that view and the main view (from behind Edwards and Rossi) Marco is unable to separate or maybe he's not giving up on staying upright? Who knows...... :(
It looks more to me like his rear wheel locked up unexpectedly moments before the apex, and there was insufficient power to right the bike. Engine seized perhaps? Look at the skidmarks from the rear wheel.
@ping664 The black marks would normally appear through a loss of the front tyre aswell, from what i have seen of it and heard it does look alot like he had a low side from the front tyre loosing grip then as it slipped it regained grip but because of Simoncellis position on the bike it dragged him back across the track and into Edwards and Rossis path.
@chrishowe~ thats exactly what happened!.... he low-sided it, then managed to pick the bike up again. Very rare occurance. These guys are on the threshold of understeer (low-siding) on pretty much every turn. And they use their knee to push off the ground so as to keep the bike from low-siding. Awesome stuff.
this wouldn't propably have happened in latter rounds with tire-ware, less fuels and "thinner" bike sequences on the track..he would had slided out of the track instantly (as he had done other times on his career)..Tragedy is that is actually Rossi's bike that kills him (as it shows from the front pic released), Edwards bike hit him in the back of the foot and takes off on the air, seperating Marco from his bike and being run over by Rossi who suprissingly stays on his bike..Total Tragedy
@hgeths1978 You can't say that it was Rossi's bike that killed him, are you medically trained, did you examine his body, were you even there? I think the answer is no.
Sic was hit by both Edwards and Rossi and it could have been either of these collisions that killed him or both. It may have even been that fact that he was dropped by the response team, which could have aggravated his injuries.......
@hghkimba is the response team vide on on youtube? I have heard of its existence but not managed to find it. Can you remember its title or key word(s).
His wheels didn't even touch the line. Bullshit theory.
ACEdwards256 23 hours ago
They should institute automatic and rider deployable air bags on their leathers. Will take the brunt of impact. When you get hit that hard by something that heavy you're going to have massive internal bleeding. An airbag may allow him to be injured but alive! Of course you can never say to what extent an airbag might work but better to have it. RIP Marco you were a good guy and a good racer!
antimatterion 3 days ago
his wheels don't even touch the line for a micro second.
MrTimothy2 4 days ago
Wrong ! Too fast into corner unloads weight from rear wheel and causes rear wheel to spin up and the line of rubber is not on the white line. It was just a mistake that sadly cost a great racer his life. I will miss him as will many others. I wish I could have thanked him for what he gave to us as spectators.
Tikkarifle 5 days ago
Definitely nothing to do with the white line...check your eyes mate.
danielkol 5 days ago
Any rider with shorter limbs wouldn't have tried to save the slide. Marco thought he could, but instead his knee became a pivot. So tragic.
outwrite11 5 days ago
Driver's mistake.....
That is all.
hullcanada 6 days ago
NO.... the white line theory is wrong. WRONG>>>>>>
The rear tire start to spin before the bike passes the white line...REPEAT.... passes the white line,,, it never touch it.
Too much power in that angle.... that drop the driver off the bike...
hullcanada 6 days ago
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0:47 - there the moment hes bike tires lost grip, there no white line yet have been touched! look at the black line on the track when he start slide .
briedis81 1 week ago
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briedis81 1 week ago
His elbow touched the kerb, that would hurt...
Nohjjohnthegreat 1 week ago
The white line had nothing to do with it. Watch for the instant you first see the darker the front tire is leaving on the track. It is before the white line and if you notice it comes very close to but never touches it. Marco simply pushed a cold tire too far and the front folded on him. In classic Marco fashion he gave it his all to recover and when the bike regained traction it sent him across the track.
a2birdcage 1 week ago
Around 29 seconds in you see Marco giving it a hand full throttle, I wonder if he changed down a gear before entering the corner and due to the increased RPM of running on the smallest section of the tyre on full lean angle and fresh tyres it locked up the rear wheel and instead of it looking like he`s spinning up the rear wheel he has locked up the rear wheel ?? causing the rear of the bike to drift left and steer the bike into the infield
roygripper 1 week ago
search colin edwards..elbow save. he does the exact same thing, i think it was practice, but doesnt look like he was going half as fast. he saved, but who knows if guys are racing by at 160. i wonder if red.white area is sticky to leathers compared to pavement.
SGDeGalvez 1 week ago
I think Sic just lost balance and slipped off, :/ RIP58 We'll always love you man.
scuderia4britalia 2 weeks ago
Doesn't touch the white line. The bumps hit his right foot and he hits the rear brake.....
babinuk 2 weeks ago
i only wonder very deep how the bike did not slide out of the track but instead make a turn in to the center of the track , i mean coming in the inerside of the track and not as usual hapens when the bike slides , usualy when the bike slides goes out of track ...i realy do not understand
theufwik 2 weeks ago
i think he just got too far over and then brushed the raised red/white boundry line which threw his body off balance. see his elbow brush the red/white. he would have been ok if it wasnt fro the raised red/white. once he got out of position, he basically had to ride it out till he could slow down. now way to climb back up going that fast without crashing. take a look at the crash part, he is still way out of position on the bike. he was just trying to slow down, when WHAM.
SGDeGalvez 2 weeks ago
@SGDeGalvez I agree with your comment. It appears his elbow scraping the ground caused his weight to be thrown off far to the right and at that point your momentum would just carry you in that direction. Maybe had he ejected himself from the bike it would have slid off the track and not not put him right into the path of the other 2 riders but he was most likely trying to save himself and the bike rather than fall. They aren't considering death in the moment, only the race itself.
MRgreentree428 2 weeks ago
@MRgreentree428 ya, thnx for the reply. I imagine, these riders are perfectly balanced during 99% of the race. Just on these sharp turns, the margin for error is slim. It looks like he got dragged back on the red/white just a tad and he had to make a choice, let the bike go where it will or hang with it till the grass, then try to lay down. just bad luck he got crushed
SGDeGalvez 1 week ago
@SGDeGalvez I don't get SPEED channel and wasn't able to follow last years races thoroughly, but I found a download for the Indianapolis Race and got it. Don't know where along the season before Sepang, but its really amazing to think you follow all these great riders and people. See their every move game to game, and then to watch one's life tragically cut short is extremely intense. He was only 2 years older than me. Few sports have that risk, but few have the rewards as well.
MRgreentree428 1 week ago
doesnt touch
malvinasargentinas97 2 weeks ago
where in the video did he lose his helmet? and how did he get knocked unconscience before edwards hit him?
kyo120 2 weeks ago
it is very possible that his knee had touch with the white-red corner and than bike had lifted up ,in that way lost grip the reason is probably that ...
theufwik 3 weeks ago
@theufwik I agree with you. The rear tire was spinning before contacting the white line. you can clearly see the rubber being laid on the track before the tire comes close to the white line. The white line was definitely not the cause. RIP Marco
trueno4life86 2 weeks ago
it's obvious that his front tire slid on the white line- you see it happen. it's just that the camera is from the back. His front tire hit the white line, slid just a bit & Marco kept the throttle on to try to pull out. it's as if he were leaning away from the outer part of the turn to keep from sliding out.
mrmjmolina 3 weeks ago
doesnt even touch the white line, that black line... that is the track of his tyre, doesn't even touch it. you really don't have a clue what you are yalking about. RIP Super Sic #58
daletheguvnor 3 weeks ago 2
You obviously know nothing about riding a bike, as the front had already lost traction before he even apexed, hence the line of black rubber. Before you comment or make stupid videos like this think.
CBRmark14 3 weeks ago 2
Looks like he had a little too much drag brake and lost the front. I don't see what you are selling. This guy was a really good raw talent. Would have been great to see him on the "factory" bikes.
rpeagram 1 month ago
it doesn't look like he hit the paint. you can see the trail of rubber the tire is leaving just as he is about to apex. Right at 0:13s the skidding starts just before he hits the apex. maybe he just went too hard in the first couple laps on cold tires. either way may he rest in peace. I was really looking forward to his future in motogp...so sad :(
aschika1 1 month ago 2
Simon RIP :'(
Dwaas88 1 month ago
God rest his soul a champ in the making
dibble378810 1 month ago
Marco was a better rider than anybody commenting.
Shut up and show him some respect.
jaysf87 1 month ago
marco brakes too hard whilst leaning the bike into the corner causing the front wheel to slide underneath him
his rear tyre was nowhere near the line so you are wrong i'm afraid
he lost his life due to losing his safety helmet and the bike behind him had no chance of getting out of the way thus hitting marco on his head as his helmet comes off killing him instantly
webbo100970 1 month ago
mrtm140 is right. The black line starts well before Marco's front tyre hits the white paint. Clearly the front tyre was already sliding and he had already lost control about a metre before he hit the painted line. Even then his tire was only a little way over the white line and probably not far enough over it to cause loss of grip.
songsamsung 1 month ago
he was no where near the white line when his front wheel started to side as the black line shows. Marco was the next Rossi! R.I.P Marco
mrtm140 1 month ago
u are wrong,and if he touch white line but he didnt ,again tire should hold grip.this is not paint on the road.it was just bad luck,crash,two very fast riders behind with no chance to avoid crash with marco.
r.i.p marco
we miss you!!!
twostrokenolimit 1 month ago
If it was the line, then it was a minor glitch that he would have been able to control. At the end of the day it was a racing accident, one that he was almost certain to have. Thank God it resulted in his own death and not of somebody else.
Swaggerlot 1 month ago
Looks to me he just leaned a little too far or he locked the rear brake because I see some braking tire mark before he hits the Apex of the turn. What also could have caused him to fall to the side of the bike is opening the throttle too much to where it brings the bike up faster than it would with the rider coming up with the bike. RIP #58
drohero 1 month ago
i'm sorry , but you are wrong and blind, because the tyres did not come close to the white painted line at all and in fact it lost control before even apexing . the black line proves that.
I loved Marco as a rider and a personality of the sport. Big loss.
Mr4everl8 1 month ago
I loved watching Marco ride and what you are saying is correct, but it's nothing new. The white line is especially slippery when wet and certainly not high on traction when dry. If you've ever actually ridden, you'd know that Marco tried to ride this out, instead of letting the bike go. Choosing to ride this out meant a high risk of staying in the racing line. I wish he let it go and slid off the track, he was fun to watch.
tecromatica 1 month ago
i see what you mean, it looks like a blob of oil that his front tyre hit just before skidding. thats the dangers of racing tho dude. life is never fair. r.i.p marco.
drtydawg73 1 month ago
Did you notice the black line from where he lost the front tire before he hit the white line. Not very observent are you.
HonkieHokie 2 months ago
No, when its hot and in dry conditions the white line is grippy, like the rumble strips, it's only when it's wet the white lines a treacherous. He lost the front, and was stuck to the bike while it was sliding on the ground, and got hit twice, and that's it, end of story. R.I.P
blondboyharrison 2 months ago
First of all @sayhai you are a dimwit! And it is 100% the race accident. And jeez there are some really dumb retarded comments on this vid.
Anyhow did the poster actually put the comments in he same vid as we see here? As its bloody obvious neither wheel touches the line. And it's obvious why hat as he got tie he corner apex he started to tap the throttle on, he lost the front an back at roughly the same time and low sided the bike, unfortunately for simoncelli there was just enough grip on the
dazzassti 2 months ago
RIP Marco Cimoncelli.
niel1218 2 months ago
is this even the original video of simoncelli??i think this is fake........watch the video where simoncellu crash and you'll find out simoncelli didn't fell in that angle....
sayhai 2 months ago
@sayhai are you retarded?
razv23 2 months ago
@razv23 im sure in not retard....if i am,i'm sorry..but please take a look on the real video and do some thinking...in this video,the guy have almost fell and he totatly lost control of the bike,in the "REAL" video,simon still hanging on the bike and the bike is turning to right so hard........anyway,R.I.P simoncelli,just let that guy rest in peace with god.
sayhai 2 months ago
@sayhai first of all, how the f*** would someone fake this move? this is the video taken from alvaro's onboard camera.
second, stop at 0:15 and read what's written on the leathers. SIMONCELLI.
razv23 2 months ago
@razv23 maybe this the other video of simoncelli fell.not the video where he crash.
sayhai 2 months ago
@sayhai you're not making any sense.
razv23 2 months ago
@razv23 im sorry if i didnt' make any sense.btw just chill ok....let the guy rest in peace.im sure he doesnt want anyone to make a big deal about this video.
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ping664 2 months ago
in here I dont think that the white stripe is the problem, there is a "skid mark" of the tires before the white stripe....
pmxbmega1 2 months ago
Sad. It happened on my birthday, my favorite rider, dead...:/
MattySP34Ks 2 months ago
Why try to analyze it? It was a tragic freak accident that robbed us of one of the brightest stars in racing.
edd55r 3 months ago
@menzerna1234. Die I mean.
Rcrby525 3 months ago
Z@menzerna1234, you can Eddie in a car crash. Walking to work and many ways, I don't sit at home all day like you.
Rcrby525 3 months ago
Lots of other riders took the same line, from the 125's and up. Just a freak accident. R.I.P. Marco.
rumvodkaf1 3 months ago
No need to analyse the cause.
He is DEAD.
This is the PRICE you pay, when you want to be DIFFERENT.
You shd hv been prepared to die horribly or paralysed since DAY No1.
No one pointed a gun at him and forced him to get on a bike and show off.
He wanted fame and glory (typical white disease)......and he paid the ULTIMATE price.
menzerna1234 3 months ago
@menzerna1234 "This is the PRICE you pay, when you want to be DIFFERENT." so you would be happy if all cultures and ideas just poofed?, want a singular languege too? people can do whatever they want with their lives, not everyone wants to have a mediocre exsistance like you.
Rcrby525 3 months ago
@Rcrby525
"Mediocre Existance" ?
A mediocre life gives you more assurance that you won't end up paralysed or dead caused by INTENTIONAL ABUSE of your life.
If you don't want a mediocre life, and you want to show off fame and glory by doing dangerous things......then ensure your loved ones don't cry and moan and sob when you end up dead or paralysed for life
menzerna1234 3 months ago
@menzerna1234 At least he made something of his life doing something he loved. His family and friends knew the risks as anyone does when involved in motorsport. He may have died, but him and all his friends and family would be happy he died doing something he loved. He pushed for thrills such as human nature craves (well in most people) and as @Rcrby525 said you live a mediocre life sitting inside all day having no thrills whatsoever..
mattcoulton43 3 months ago
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Hahahaha....I would rather be "mediocre" and rich, enjoying myself safely.....compared to getting my skull crushed by a bike wheel.
menzerna1234 3 months ago
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@menzerna1234 That is why no one will remember your name.
khyoon14 3 months ago
What the hell is that ? It's another crash ! You can't put your bike back on the road so easily after the reer goes of ! Idiots ! Stop making tricked videos and think a bit about this poor guy...
ilovehpwands97 3 months ago
Pretty similar to this SICs fall
watch?v=ED45b9-Ehr0&feature=related
Robrob007 3 months ago
This is what I saw after I also watched the crash MANY times. What I see is Marco in a slide, and loses the front tire. I believe he was trying to let go of the bike in a low side. Notice how he raises his left leg off the bike, as if to prepare to let it go. Once he was off the throttle it appears to me the bike gains its grip when the torque decreased. This will in effect cause the bike to shoot across the track because of the slower speed gaining a tighter turn ratio. By then it was too late.
Wtrackerman 3 months ago
fucking idiots
eldinpitiano 3 months ago
seriously... you're gonna blame it on the track? this kinda shit just happens this is racing
TheRhymeAsylum 3 months ago 2
do you not see his right elbow hit the banking of the rumble strip? his elbow hit and the banking increase and his arms impact / push him upright farther than he was prepared for// and could not counteract the traslation from bump to lean angle and traction ...... his right hand is ^also blipping the throttle under downshift right before his elbow hit../, his torque range in this shot "could have" been high revs and sudden arm movment "could have" had unintended consequences..
robsuperstreet83 3 months ago
The rear was spinning up long before it hit a white line.
dezmoduo 4 months ago
I noticed too. in some ways I noticed that an observation is wrong if you saw on the video his front wheel lost traction before the white line. It just made it worse but anyway r.i.p.
srgtsteel1 4 months ago
Regarding your observations: there was a problem before he hit the line, and 2nd, the back tire never really seems to fully touch it. By the time he was hit in cross traffic, he had lost speed, was falling off the right side with his helmet dragging the ground, looking backwards. 1st, we don't drag our helmets looking backwards. Secondly, we know how to right ourselves and our machines.
dmeans82 4 months ago
@dmeans82 Dude it was an accident if you were in that situation you would panic and all the training and shit would go out the window you panic you don't think straight this is why he probably didn't try to upright the bike
you make him sound like he wasn't trained for this like hes just a another kid trying ride a bike stop bigging yourself up and think about what happened that day RIP MARCO SIMONCELLI
CHAOSRAIDER123 4 months ago
Sedih banget tuh...................!
TheNurulhuda23 4 months ago
the skid marks are due to him pulling on the brakes
R.I.P Marcos
tribalist001 4 months ago
Now after I saw this clip I knew what was wrong and what made Marco cross the road in front of Edwards>> Ahhh we will miss you Marco (Tears are here)
nadal5001 4 months ago
Such a waste of life. To die so young and having so much potential. Thoughts with Simoncelli's and Rossi's families. RIP Marco.
NathanDrake911 4 months ago
pretty obvious you have no experience racing, and know nothing about motogp. First, if you knew what you were looking for you would see the black mark being made on the track long before he touched the paint, thats when the front end started sliding. Second, if you knew anything about motogp, you would know that all painted surfaces used on tracks that MotoGp and WSBK run on use a special, FIM approved paint that provides grip levels identical to the unpainted surfaces.
ratracer55 4 months ago
He Lost traction from the tyres
mansonny122333 4 months ago
Ur a tool he doesnt touch the line neitha goose,rip marco only the good die young
bloodnutdanut 4 months ago
A question, After he lost control he is sliding/going from right to left then when Edwards and Rossi hit him he was sliding/going left to right. The question is: Where is the footage when he changed direction??? it seems at some point he recover the bike and then something happen that make the sliding direction change. As people complaining about why asking, well we want to understand how this kind of freak accident happened in today modern motorsport so we could avoid those in the future.
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Divyatutsie 4 months ago
@Divyatutsie yo m8 it was not dumb I just talk to a biker and he gave me the explanation: The problem on a bike comes when you try to save it. Bikes, having only two wheels and very little contact with the road, are VERY susceptible to grip changes. Simoncelli did what we all do: He tried to save it. Once he did that rather than just laying it down, the tires actually got some grip and started turning the bike back to the right. He had hoped that if he could get it to grip it would stand back up
RGS1970 4 months ago
The tyers dont even touch the white line!
ginogoodall 4 months ago
He rode the bike of the edge of the tyre and inside of just sliding away like normal, the tyres continued to grip and forced him into the path of Edwards and Rossi, complete freak accident.
RIP Marco, you will always be remembered a hero.
khyeria 4 months ago 2
U can see the slide marks from he's tires none of them touch the line. It doesn't matter what happened. A young and great rider lost he's life. Rip marco
danboy172 4 months ago
It doesn't matter how it happened,sadly it happened and we can't get him back...
dimmumaiden1 4 months ago
No one is to blame for this crash it was a racing accident, all the people involved will be feeling terrible and they don't need anyone pointing the finger of blame at them. God bless you Marco RIP
flashany 4 months ago
he didnt touch it with rear tire
afraaboyy 4 months ago
@trickmastermonkey I think it was rossi front tire that ripped his helmet off that caused his death. Seeing him slide across the track I knew there was no coming back from a crash like that' RIP SIMONCELLI
TheExCDark 4 months ago
Interesting comment: news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motogp/15420719.stm
4everkokonut 4 months ago
His front tyre lost grip before the white line... You can clearly see the black line left on the tarmac far away from the white painted line so personally I disagree
TheRozzers 4 months ago
It would appear that he just lost the front end like so many riders do during a race weekend, especially as he was pushing hard to get away from bautista on cold tyres ,have watched this video over and over and feel that it was rossi foot peg that hooked the back of simoncellis helmet breaking his neck as i ripped the helmet off and flung marco out in front of all the bikes .A most upsetting outcome a real shame wish someone could bring him back.
wstievano 4 months ago
@wstievano That is exactly what I was thinking. The front tire lost pressure possibly which caused the blacvk trail mark to come from behind the bike. Note that if the rear tire had loss pressure, the rear end would have slid from under him. The rear end didnt and the front end did...
ThaOlBoy 3 months ago
Super Sic simply lost grip, possibly because his right arm and footpeg hit the rumblegrid or maybe his tyres hadn't fully warmed up, and this caused him to lose balance and half fall off the bike. He hung on and tried to right it again but unfortunately the tyres regained grip, he couldn't "save" the low-side and he shot across into the path of Edwards and Rossi. It's a tragic accident that we might be able to learn from but nothing could have saved him. Ciao Super Sic #58.
MrMuckstar 4 months ago
Maybe. The paint on the curbs is formulated to be non-skid, and they ride over it all the time. I have never crashed while pushing the tires hard and hitting one of the lines, but it could happen, I guess. In any case, he clearly lost both ends, and had the throttle cracked open from having his weight suspended by his hands while trying to hang on to the bike, so he squirted across Edwards and Vale's path. If he had let go of the bike it might have saved him. Not much time to think at 120mph.
kdisgrayd 4 months ago
I agree with 4everkokonut, the tyres never touched the white line, you can see the thin black tyre mark being made on the track surface. It looks like he fainted or something. He didn't loose balance. Either way I'm so sad that he died, he was an awesome rider, an awesome guy, what a dreadful shame. Ride on Marco
42jailbar 4 months ago in playlist 42jailbar's favorites
No, doesn't seem like the tires lost traction here, it would have been obvious. It appears that Simoncelli lost conscience for whatever reason, hence the body that fell completely to the side. This wasn't by any means an attempt to straighten the bike.
4everkokonut 4 months ago
@4everkokonut You are pretty stupid to think he lost consciousness, unconscious riders don't hold onto bikes, he low sided, the black line is the tyre slipping, the tyre regained its grip and because Simoncelli was hanging off the bike trying to save it, the sudden grip caused the swerve back across the track, the only reason he managed to keep on the bike is because he had his knee down.
He low sided, anyone who knows anything about bikes and racing knows how a bike reacts to it.
chrishowe 4 months ago
@chrishowe
You are correct, my husband raced bikes!
thelittlegreenfriend 4 months ago
@chrishowe You won't get any respect for insulting people who don't think like you. Grow up.
4everkokonut 4 months ago
@4everkokonut Its pretty clear he didn't loose consciousness, he still has body movement while he was sliding and then just before he got hit.
And just because i point out a simple fact about it i have no respect? No respect is even starting conspiracy theories about it, I ride bikes, i have done for 7 years, i understand the way bikes react to certain things, maybe you should understand these before posting comments about it.
chrishowe 4 months ago
@chrishowe I don't care how many years you've ridden or not a motorcycle, "respect" means not calling anybody who disagrees with you 'stupid' or other insulting words. These have no place in a civilized discussion.
4everkokonut 4 months ago
@4everkokonut Well use some knowledge and understand what happens when a bike is sliding and how riders react before making, quite frankly, ridiculous assumptions.
chrishowe 4 months ago
@chrishowe Ok buzz off kid.
4everkokonut 4 months ago
@4everkokonut Kid? Stupid assumptions again.
chrishowe 4 months ago
Doesnt look like he touched any lines to me, he was laying down blackies but that doesnt mean he was spinning either, see them all the time, pretty normal, he just lost it and couldnt regain it. I think he tried to and this is what made him cross over so fast, he was countersteering to get the bike up on its tires but it was too far over to catch.
Puckgrinder85 4 months ago
but what caused the death? the rider's fall, or the two bikes that crashed into him and destroyed his helmet into a million pieces?
trickmastermonkey 4 months ago
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PickeKid 4 months ago
fight till the end
farewell my friend
neilosatsalis 4 months ago
watch the race again and listen to ben spies' comments...
itr835 4 months ago
I think he lost his right footrest. He was pinned under the bike. Thank you Simo, we loved you.
billiemac66 4 months ago
trolololl look at it carefully he didint even touch the lane
MsKestutis 4 months ago 2
guys one more thing... this images are not of simoncelli... are of his team mate bautista
mo1ta55 4 months ago
@mo1ta55 ??? The pictures are from Alvaros Suzuki looking at Marco. Alvaro isn't his team mate.
SpunkBlobs 4 months ago
@mo1ta55 [*] at 0:16 you can see simoncelli on his bottom. R.I.P MARCO
12ce 4 months ago
@12ce did't notice that...
mo1ta55 4 months ago
It's obvious the rear was spinning, (watch the black stripe) before he touched the stripe, and the tire never does touch.
juliandaaron42305 4 months ago
He didn't even touch the white line! Are you blind
inmanfamily 4 months ago
@inmanfamily I wonder who is the real blind guy here... Unfortunately, you are.
ALEXBAB1 4 months ago
He and Depuniet were the only two with the 'extra hard' rear option. Baustista was swapping postions and Marco was riding hard. A few corners before you can see his rear shudder under throttle. And he didn't let it go, but hung on as the bike veered. No chance at any speed with two simultaneous collisions. (Personal story: 2010 LaGuna Seca- I handed Marco a paper coffee cup and a Sharpie and he laughed and cheerfully signed. Miss him.
jkkavan 4 months ago
@jkkavan At last some one who knows something (harder tyre and riding hard and only L2). Some of the speculation on here is crazy. Even saw on another vid someone saying he was dead before the colission. Pha! I've been watching bike racing since the days Harada and Biaggi and Capriossi had crazy 250cc races and have long been a biker myself. I put my take below.
SpunkBlobs 4 months ago
@jkkavan actually everyone was runing the same exept for marco, he was the only one with the harder rear. The comentators was saying it while lap t2 was going on and after they said it the crash happened...
viper22jc 4 months ago
a meter or so just before he went onto the white line you could see the tire making a very dark black line if you slowmo the vid you can see that black line doesnt touch the white line, he was leaning just a inch to much. RIP Marco Simoncelli
BrutalNinja1 4 months ago 2
Roger that
TheRaven114 4 months ago
Also im not being funny, but when the adrenaline is pumping people fall over when carrythings, please STOP Blaming everyone else, as i said below it was a VERY TRAGIC ACCIDENT, lets just respect his Memory.
johnpaulwright1 4 months ago
Im Sorry, but there is no may that Marcos tyres hit the white line you can see a clear bit of track at all times, please dont try and use this incident, to put the blame on anyone or anything, it was a tragic ACCIDENT and thats unfortunately is all it was, rather than trying to assume something how about respecting Marcos Memory and help his family to deal with this terrible ACCIDENT, And also spare a thought for both Valentino Rossi and Colin Edwards, RIP Marco Simoncelli
johnpaulwright1 4 months ago 2
Yes very true. Super Sic was special and he did not wish to slide off. Shame. If the track was less wider, we would not have seen such untimely death
scarredcobra 4 months ago
I dont think it was the white line , by what i can see Marco was leaning a bit to much and there was no way he could bring the bike back up , ok white line must ve help towards the accident , but i think he over done a bit on the leaning
marcocaires1 4 months ago
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you fools no one was to blame here its just a freak accident! A) the white line dose not mark the racing line and B) the red and white striped corner is slightly raised if you look closely Simoncelli does take the corner to tight (like many others before him. no blame!)
robsminimoto 4 months ago
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This bumps him and he looses his left foot peg, if this happens especialy with the new rossi leg hang in to the corner you have no feet on the pegs and no way to stand the bike up at those speeds. it was the bravest moterbike riding i have ever seen !!!!!!!! any other rider would have just let go of the bike and slid safely down the track. simoncelli held on to the end showing not only his comitment to motogp but his skill, heart, and bravery
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robsminimoto 4 months ago
It would have been better if he had just slid off but he was so determined as a rider and pressure from team he was determined to stay on his bike, i do think though both riders behind him could done better to avoid him, if colln had went wide it would have given rossi the room to avoid marco, he was a great rider with great skill and had no way of knowing what was going on behind him, i think he was the next rossi
still love him
dmgrey 4 months ago
feel so horrified when i watched the accident on tv
Gracecarla1 4 months ago
if you look good his rear rim start blocking on 0:45 sec. the cause on that was he was thinking he's going to fast in the corner and start breaking.Or maybe the break pedal was touching the ground (curves)
Gr33nMindz 4 months ago
Every time I see the footage, I feel sad; he was going to be the next big thing, a couple of years guidance and he would've been world champion. Definately had the makings of one. Even with his hilarious hair. RIP Marco, the racing world will miss you...
kramerbasher 4 months ago
@19591910 btw if you look at his bum just as the bike goes past you can clearly see the word Simoncelli..
hghkimba 4 months ago
@19591910 yes it is, this it the view from bavi's on board camera who was behind him. I saw the footage on TV
hghkimba 4 months ago
he suppose to not hold the handle after he collapse, maybe he try to get safe landing on granite safe zone on his right side rather than left side, by the way, it just happened...what a sad, sleep tight marco..._from Malaysia
milan512500 4 months ago
snurge69 is right.. those tracks were tested in many ways b4 FIA gave the green light.... the accident was caused by a simple lowside and nothing more
theooo12345678 4 months ago
i could be wrong, but i've watched this clip numerous times and I don't think the tire does run over the white line... not the rear tire at least. It also seems to me that because the front tire is much narrower than the rear, that unless the rear is sliding more than the front that if the rear does not go over the line, then neither did the front. I believe the crash was, as some other comments mentioned, caused by a simple lowside but that the white line is not what caused the lowside.
snurge69 4 months ago
Leave it to the professionals, it was nothing to do with the white lines, his back tyre was even on it, his back wheel was spinning up before then, you can clearly see that on the track
0SlipGaming0 4 months ago
Novice rider (not allowed out of the paddock yet ) here, but when he breached the red n white, did his right leg get pinned by both the foot peg and the bike itself? I wonder because when he realised he was losing control, his left leg does that jiggling as if he was in pain.
Hale and Farewell, Marco. What a horrible thing to happen to such a nice fella, and a crap situ for Rossi and Edwards....
claire88ity 4 months ago
RIP Marco Simoncelli, you will always be remembered.
EuropeLova 4 months ago
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Race In Peace Marco Simoncelli #58
Valentino rossi shock after crash with Marco simoncelli in sepang
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VinaDwijayanti 4 months ago
Not read other posts. Marco was running the harder rear. Pusing hard on a cold tyre (L2) he lays a darkie from the rear = rear grip compromised = more pressure on front to grip = front pushes = both tyres slide but do not leave the tarmac = bike slows = tyres regain grip but bike position (rear slipped first = 'oversteer') bike tracks across track. The bit I don't get is why Marco held on so long. He couldn't upright it (leg flat 2 ground)& if he had uprighted the bike both would highside. IMO.
SpunkBlobs 4 months ago
The tyre loose grip on the white line, because the white line was made from thermoplastic, slippery than asphalt, and it seem something went wrong why he couldn't getting loose from the bike..
javanicas 4 months ago
when he hit the line their was a burnout the his tyer had done then he stared 2 fall of the bike and thats how he dided
TheBlingz123 4 months ago
The bike DID "upright".... but Marco didnt.... he was hanging off the side of it.
He "low-sided" and then was able to get the bike back up on both wheels by pushing off the ground with his right knee.
marek0086 4 months ago
Good Reaction of Simoncelly but tragically ended
Herby847 4 months ago
then again if you look seconds before the crash he had almost recovered from the slide had it not have been for him getting cleaned up he most likely would still be here to this day
southerncross259 4 months ago
and as for the bike locking up if you look close it looks like his foot was on the brake and it hit the ground causing the bike to lock up and i myself have done that a few times while racing motocross when i was younger and i know that its different but its the same kind of concept
southerncross259 4 months ago
ok for all you fuckheads that think that the cause of his fatal crash was the white wrong leaning over to far can cause the bike to slide but if u also look again as he starts to come into the corner he leans to far and as for the fatal blow if you have ever had a helmet on before and had someone try to pull it up from the back while the strap was tightened then you would feel the pressure applied to your neck now also imaginethe amount of force applied in this situation so all you dicks r wrong
southerncross259 4 months ago
Marco looks to be 'stuck' on his bike. Most times you either slide off, get high sided or however it goes, you seperate from the bike. Going off that view and the main view (from behind Edwards and Rossi) Marco is unable to separate or maybe he's not giving up on staying upright? Who knows...... :(
Scottys93GTO 4 months ago
It looks more to me like his rear wheel locked up unexpectedly moments before the apex, and there was insufficient power to right the bike. Engine seized perhaps? Look at the skidmarks from the rear wheel.
ping664 4 months ago
@ping664 The black marks would normally appear through a loss of the front tyre aswell, from what i have seen of it and heard it does look alot like he had a low side from the front tyre loosing grip then as it slipped it regained grip but because of Simoncellis position on the bike it dragged him back across the track and into Edwards and Rossis path.
chrishowe 4 months ago
@chrishowe~ thats exactly what happened!.... he low-sided it, then managed to pick the bike up again. Very rare occurance. These guys are on the threshold of understeer (low-siding) on pretty much every turn. And they use their knee to push off the ground so as to keep the bike from low-siding. Awesome stuff.
marek0086 4 months ago
this wouldn't propably have happened in latter rounds with tire-ware, less fuels and "thinner" bike sequences on the track..he would had slided out of the track instantly (as he had done other times on his career)..Tragedy is that is actually Rossi's bike that kills him (as it shows from the front pic released), Edwards bike hit him in the back of the foot and takes off on the air, seperating Marco from his bike and being run over by Rossi who suprissingly stays on his bike..Total Tragedy
hgeths1978 4 months ago
@hgeths1978 You can't say that it was Rossi's bike that killed him, are you medically trained, did you examine his body, were you even there? I think the answer is no.
Sic was hit by both Edwards and Rossi and it could have been either of these collisions that killed him or both. It may have even been that fact that he was dropped by the response team, which could have aggravated his injuries.......
Wait for the autopsy....
RIP Marco 'Sic' Simoncelli 1987-2011
hghkimba 4 months ago
@hghkimba is the response team vide on on youtube? I have heard of its existence but not managed to find it. Can you remember its title or key word(s).
SpunkBlobs 4 months ago
@SpunkBlobs Yeah it's on here. Just search Simoncelli dropped, you should find it.
hghkimba 4 months ago