Yes i know. Enumerated powers were enumerated so that the general welfare clause could justified everything. So the constitution can say whatever it wants, but if a judge and congress say something is there, then it is and I'm wrong. Of course the obvious conflict of interest (the supreme judge is nominated by the president) does not matter, and the fact that the founding fathers were for limited government does not say anything about what they had in mind.
I subscribe to both LV and HTWW. To be honest LV's videos have become painful to watch lately. Pointing out Fox bias in a biased manner is really quite pointless and he can't even make his stuff entertaining.
I wonder if the point he made at 2:43 wasn't that Fox should have seen the info on the blog an hour prior to airing, but that if the blog was able to get the correct info, then why couldn't Fox?
7:10 HAHAHAHAHA!!! LiberalViewer thinks of himself as an expert in... it doesn't even matter. He could think himself to be an expert in ice fishing and I would still laugh. This guy is a clown.
Every single comment question this guy makes is intellectually dishonest and he has the audacity to accuse others of the same thing? What a disgrace.
1. in 1794 Elias Boudinot cited the welfare clause in article 1 section 8 to allow the expenditure.
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The Congress shall have power To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defence and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
The congress declared it constitutional, and the court declared it a (cont)
Now if you said that "...almost every single video that LiberalViewer makes is totally dishonest and false, and i'm gonna prove that to you." OK, where is the proof??? Your nothing but a joke!
When you're speaking from 3:19 to 3:50, a nine year old would understand that by doing all of the things you just said, like "improving your grades, getting into college, and being a better person" you would be helping Pres. Obama because when you do any of these things you help everyone involved in your life out. EVEN if the children didn't see that message at first, SURELY the teachers who are there to guide the students would be able to give them ideas for helping him out indirectly.
wow even in the context which you presented john holdren it never says that he supports the use of those actions, it says that it could be deemed constitutional, how hard can it be to tell the difference? there are many other errors in your logic and ways in which you present context that aren't lending any credence to your claim of being in any way shape or form right, sorry man, give it up
"Banana republics and Stalinist regimes". Sorry dude, but in a slightly broader context the US has been indoctrinating her youth for decades. I've lived in the US from 3-8 years old and I can still drone up the Pledge of Allegiance upon command.
Was this particular event indoctrination? I'll leave the answer up to you. Don't pretend however that it never happened before in the US. The entire curriculum is full of it.
I'm totally subscribing to both of you guys. No way could I get better representation of both the liberal democrat and conservative republicans totally partisan views.
I mean, on one side Obama's a Stalinist dictator and on the other side he's the best thing since sliced bread.
When really all he is is just another president. Batter than Bush?? I think so - but leader of dramatic change of thinking for the USA?? Ehh...
dude, you are the argument for abortion. I have said this phrase a lot of times before but never i have i meant it as much as i am about to ''fuck you, you fucking prick'' your lame, your views are wrong and you are not as smart as you think you are. go and fucking die. you are a sad excuse for a man.... i honestly pity you...pathetic dick
Funny,HTWW has names,dates,places,audio,video,and articles written by the people he's comenting on , and the only thing the critics have is a lot of ad hominems out of context statements and no evidence that the things he says are erroneous.
Respond to this.....Why was it ok for Bush senior t talk to us in the 90's? I do remember that i was in middle school when that happened. Remember your video says that the classroom activity's are what count right. I remember not wanting to watch Bush but I was forced to............
You were forced against your will to watch Bush Sr. talk to you in the classroom, so your distaste over that is justification to have kids forced to watch Obama talk to them today? That's just hypocritical. I wouldn't support any President talking to kids about anything without it being voluntary.
@neonical Then you wouldn't mind your kids getting an F for a day? If you want them to miss it fine, but to make it fair to the other kids, your kid should get an F for the day. I had to watch president Bush senior in school tell us to do well in school and stay away from drugs. Though as an adult I do not agree with any Bush, it was an innocuous, non political event meant to educate children as a civics lesson. Obama is no different.
When LiberalViewer once answered comments on his videos I was able to get him angry and away from his false civility in an argument over the ACLU defending members of NAMBLA by playing devils advocate for a parent feeling the pain of a child being a victim of NAMBLA "activities" if they were to become legal. Seems he feels the same about his 6 year old daughter that I would feel if a daughter of mine were LEGALLY approachable by this disgusting group. That's a way of getting to him.
So Reagen talking about trickle-down economics to kids doesn't qualify as bias? I mean I don't like Obama either but you've got to admit that's a huge double standard.
What I don't like is how HTWW starts to talk really fast at certain parts. It makes it really hard to follow your argument, but makes it sound like you have a lot of points. So, I stopped and started your video so that I could actually process what you were saying, and realized that you tend to gloss over things the most when you speed up. Thanks for purposefully being deceitful, bastard.
Funny how you showed the quote with the "students should". That is the one quote in your original video that is absolutely false. I have pointed this out to you before, but you still have not done any corrections. It said COULD and not SHOULD. Two very different meanings.
Anyone giving this a poor rating is clearly, clearly biased. Liberal Viewer OBVIOUSLY misrepresented his response in the most black and white way you can think of. Video evidence is pretty damning so you have to be quite stupid to watch something right in front of your own eyes and then say something else is going on. The only person that might think Liberal Viewer was just making a mistake or that they are in fact correct would be Helen Keller.
That's basically my problem with most commentators on youtube, but this guy seems to be far worse then most videos on youtube. This guy almost seems to think he is better then 90% of the people he talks about.
Although I suppose by saying this, I'm not much better but at least I don't think I'm better then anyone here.
LOL Glenn simply ran out of time? Are you fucking serious? Wait a minute...where's the PROOF that Glenn Beck ran out of time? You're blaming LiberalViewer for being dishonest, but you can't back your shit up with proof either. At least LV has links in the sidebar in every one of his videos as proof. You're the fucking joke here.
Sigh... that's because this video is referring to other videos that HTTW has already made. If you go to those videos, you will see the links on the relevant issues that these guys are talking about.
What about that incredibly ridiculous claim that "Glenn Beck simply ran out of time" and cut Michelle Malkin off. Where's the proof for that? He has 0 links to all those (bullshit) claims he made at the end about Liberal Viewer's videos.
The Liberalviewer, having read the constitution determined it was constitutional because of Article 1 and Section 8 of the constitution. Congress having read the constitution also reached that conclusion. They did not reach that conclusion and passed a law.
Nobody reached a conclusion because they passed a law.
And by the way, it takes a pretty high degree of stupid to think constitutionality equals support.
It's sad to see all these dumb children who have never taken a class in economics taking over our country. Not to mention these eugenicists who want to kill 90% of the population.
Where was all this emotion in the past 8 years?During anti-war protests fauxnews was all called the protesters un-american, now protesters get all the good press from fauxnews.This reaching has gotten out of controll.Taking weapons to meetings and such is unprecedented and all excuses for it fail.These people and their excuses are the definition of sore losers.
Interesting that protesters at the town hall meetings are allowed to bring firearms, including AR-15s to the events. And of course, Faux News indicates that they are merely exercising their constitutional rights.
But in a similar protest near a town hall meeting during Bush's tenure, a group of folks were arrested for simply wearing T-shirts with Bush-Hitler characatures. (Which also occurs now) So why the distinction? Plain and simple right wing HYPOCRISY.
The fact is statist science is bullshit, science and the modenr cult that follows it is assinine and entirely wrong, from the gravitationists, to the darwinist scum, to murderers of human being in test tubes its all wasteful disgusting filth that is a lie and has no place in the realm of FRE AND COMPETIVE inquiry, which what the FRE MARKET ACCOMPLISHES.
Fact is the environment does not need to be protected, The "enivironment" is not an "issue" is a lie and has no place in the Constitution.
And also his garbage about the environment, his bs statement that they need to learn math and science...bullshit....that is not the purpose of education for fascist like nthe pig Obama its to indoctrinate kids into queerdom and contraception and other immoral ungodly crap and make them little faggots he can rape or screw just like Larry Sinclair. As usual leftist pigs and swine attach themselves to imaginary "luminous" departments of phony "learning" to make themselves appear slef-important.
You'll need the knowledge and problem-solving skills you learn in science and math to cure diseases like cancer and AIDS, and to develop new energy technologies and protect our environment. You'll need the insights and critical thinking skills you gain in history and social studies to fight poverty and homelessness, crime and discrimination, and make our nation more fair and more free."
The AIDS and cancer canard, tyopical government garbage about exploiting disease they don't understand.
The topic was not about "succeeding in school" the bullshit speech was re-written as reported in the press after the grass roots fire that lit up against this fascist aytypical democrat indoctrination of America these pigs leies their asses. Fascist"viewer" as usual lied about the contex of the bullshit lessons plans and Obamafuhrer speech, it was not about school which is garbage but about himself and his phony "life story" etc. His original "speech" was to be 15 minutes(!) long.
Lol, okay, demean my('re?) type for needing to have the last word since I'm not letting you have it, then call me ignorant and run away because you don't agree. How mature. =)
It's "practical and theoretical" relationship is implicit in socioeconomics, and can be observed with simple algebra. I'm not the only one who thinks so, but I'm sure Friedrich Hayek was also ignorant about such things.
My rights don't come from you, and you just proved my point. Feel free to start the war unarmed..
It is my opinion that you are wasting your time arguing with the Liberal Viewer. Who cares about the Liberal Viewers ridiculous comments. You know that is a complete waste of time arguing with those who bend the truth and completely make up shit to support their agenda. Spend your time on important things, like all of the shit our Government is burying us in!
1) The point isn't that FOX didn't check ABC's blog, it's that FOX had more than an hour to get the correct facts from the government and didn't. Considering they're a big news corporation, they have the resources and responsibility to do so. (ie, Most current Information)
2) Umm...Yeah...I did a similar thing when I was 8 (what if you were President). Though I do agree to an extent that authority figures would have a big influence on kids minds, it's not "brainwashing" or anything similar. Presidents talk to kids all the time (shocker?). It doesn't mean that they're going to turn into a little army. And I'm pretty sure a teacher who has more experience with kids than you would be a better judge than you or me.
3) When you compare a person's actions to another's, you're comparing the two people. By talking about thanking the leader (like Obama) only happening in stalinist regime's, you're comparing Obama to Stalin. EX: George W Bush..blahblahblah..Facist regime's take away people's rights.
See? Looks like I'm comparing Bush to a fascist even though I didn't actually say it. Doesn't matter what I meant, it just matters on how most people break down their sentences and since I'm sure most people broke it down like LiberalViewer, you should try and work on your communication skills (not an insult, constructive critisism)
4) For a guy who complains about cutting qutoes and being in context, you sure do seem to like to cut quotes and take things out of context.
5) You said that the points he made against you're video were in your video if I'm getting what yo're saying. Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you sayign the counter-points to his counter points were actually the original points? And one minute you'd say "I already adressed those points so I didn't reply" and the next you'd say "I actually did reply".
6) Are you actually making fun of LiberalViewer for using Big Words?
7) Again, you're Madison Quote was a paraphrase. There's a difference between it. One is actually from the person, and the other is someone else's understanding of what he said. Like you and LiberalViewer have different views on teh same events, you'd paraphrase what happened, let's say in Obama's speech, completley differently. Paraphrasing=/= Quote.
8) If the constitution can be wrong, why can't a founding father? Lincoln (not a founding father, but still) was against inter-racial marriage/children. If that was put to congress in the 1900s, we probably wouldn't even have Obamas (bi-racials).
9) Using previous examples of inaccuracies is a bad way of showing that a Youtuber(?) has a history of inaccuracies? Not sure how this is baiting...
10) If one of the founders was part of a "group" doesn't make the institution founded a part of that group. Most Conspiracy theorists will tell you the Free Masons run the US since most of the Founding Fathers were Masons and the whole DC layout and Dollar thing.
11) Cold War is over. Stop calling everything supported by Marx or his "followers" Communist in a negative way. Minimum wage can be considered communist. Charity can be considered communist. Taxes can be considered communist. etc etc. The problem isn't Communism, it's dictatorship and I think we've gotten to a point where we can recognize that.
12) For a dude who wants to have an intelligent Debate, you seem to have a lot of simple spelling/grammar mistakes (too instead of to, your instead of you're)...
13) Again, the problem isn't that you didn't check the ACLU site, it's that you didn't FACT CHECk once again. That's why it wasn't known to you, because you didn't check.
14) Name me one organiztion that help's everyone they said they would. WHO's Smallpox division?
15) Calling a guy a Lunatic isn't a fact, it's an opinion. Do you honeslty believe that you're the only one who knows that John Holdren is crazy? And you didn't touch on the whole "Czar" thing either. And I'm pretty sure when someone says "if", it doesn't mean "will". And you're misquoting him once again.
He isn't talking about actually using a sterilizer in the water suppley, he's sayign if one existed that was possible for it to work that way (in the water), in order to be acceptable it must meet condition a b and c. He doesn't even talk about or allude to secretly wanting to do it. And China has Popualtion Control and most 3rd World countries are getting it to. It's called sex Education.
It's called sex Education. Giving away free Condoms and stuff in most of Asia and Africa and China's problem ridden One Child Policy so Population Control does exist since there are a lot of places that have more people than they can support. Go to India and tell me there isn't a population problem. I'm pretty sure LiberalViewer isn't the one with the poor reading skills.
16) Well, I've seen you're comments to LiberalViewer and you're replies to them and he is actually pretty "nice" to you and definitley Polite. You on the other hand kind of seemed shocked that someone disagrees with you and do call people names frequently (how many times did you say crazy/Lunatic/idiot/a Joke or something similar about someone you disagree with in this video alone?).
a) The Health Reform helps Illegal Immigrants because there's no way of stopping them from getting it? Are you aware of how it works in other countries? Health cards so the Hospitals know if you're a ctizen or covered. The governement isn't that stupid.
b) Malkin was gone because the Producers since it's there job not to get a illion calls for offending someone (or maybe even Beck) thought she was too "crazy" after her cut off.
c) How's it a lie when he's quoted to saying he disagreed? And, the guy who defended him on FOX Sundays said that a lot of times people end up signing everything put in front of them.
wait a minute htww, did you not go to a public school, so how can you object that public funds pay for some one else's education, even if they do not agree with you.?
i dont think you would be so happy about someone saying the very same thing about you.
so whats going to happen if you outlaw a group of people that are paying into the system how is that going to make things better on a whole, so buy outlawing illegal aliens to be able to purchase health insurance if they end up in the hospital it will end up costing allot more for the us gov because they will now how to pay the bill for even more people,
EXACTLY. My guess? He has never even taken an intro to political science class. Much less a constitutional law class. It would be cute if it wasn't so sad.
(cont'd) Libertarianism is a naive perspective, built on the myth that people act in their best interests, are always moral or ethical, & that nothing ill or evil befalls people who do not already deserve it ...
Libertarianism, at least in the way it is promulgated by Mr. Doren, seems also to be philosophy of hyperbole, with any exercise in state (read that Federal) intervention called, 'Fascist' or 'Marxist' etc.
This is just silly. How the world really works is more complicated than that.
(cont'd) The inherent imperfectability of people, the degree to which people do not live up to their ethics & morals, & the extent that random, unfortunate acts befall us simply require a mature response, which is where the albeit imperfect patchwork of regulations & reforms that are the product of modern Liberalism come from ...
I can't help but find it ironic that a Libertarian would choose the handle "How The World Works", since Libertarianism is perhaps the most utopian, pie-in-the-sky non-reflection on how the world actually works ... while left-liberalism (mixed-economy, social safety-nets, a strong welfare state, progressive social values), far from being utopian - as it is often described - is actually the mature, non-dogmatic reaction to the imperfection of modern life.
Dear Nobody, actually the average kid is correct. Nationalized Socialism is not a form of Fascism. What you are probably refering is National Socialism which is of course a Fascist ideology. Nationalized Socialism came into existence around the 1890s and encompassed a number of different theories and models most of which have very, very little resemblance to National Socialism.
Feel free to cite some sources which distinguish "National Socialism", from "Nationalized Socialism", "Socialist Nationalism", or whatever. The terms mean what they say.
Even assuming the terms were different, it's obviously not enough so to justify the emphasis being used by people who claim to know better. In fact, there's a good chance that whatever you're referring to is called by a more appropriate name than the one *you* are using and may still fit under the fascist umbrella as well.
Nobody: really, there is a gigantic difference. The first proponent of a nationalized socialism was the German philosopher Johann Fichte, whom nobody would ever accuse of being a Fascist. Another one is Walther Rathenau, a foreign minister in the Weimar Republic.
There are huge ideological differences between nationalized socialism and National Socialism, one of which is that National Socialism was actual pro-capitalist. The former is definitely not fascist.
Your proof that the two concepts are different is to cite German Nationalism? Try again, Grouchy. We need a reference that shows "Nationalized Socialism" is a thing, distinct from "National Socialism." (IE, that "National" has not been "Nationalized".)
It was not Pro-capitalist. It had no qualms about nationalizing life & property to serve the state-ideology. It was a post-Capitalist (See: Keynesian, Super Capitalist, Corporatist, etc) response to the Marxian Crisis of Communism.
I just read a few comments here, and this "NobodyImportant" fellow purports that liberals are the aggressors toward the conservatives. Oddly enough, in his argument with the "King" fellow, I noticed the NI fellow doing the attacking.
Interesting. Before anybody judges my comment, I do not align myself with either side of politics. Preemptive defense, bitches.
Unlike you, King\Grouchy and I have been mostly civil with eachother and it's been mutual. I haven't 'attacked' Liberals for anything other than the categorical progressivist hostility toward American traditions. Who is 'attacking' is the subject of the debate.
You're just a childish heckler trying to cause trouble, which is typical. Your pre-emptive proclaimation of neutrality only shows that you are a liar, ignorant of, and unproductive to the subject, and should probably just go away.
@Rajaat - Liberals and anybody else who is a fan of fairness, truthfulness and rational argumentation are not afraid of Fox but angry at it because it spreads lies and fear. And I think very, very few liberals actually consider CNN, ABC, NBC or MSNBC (and CBS) to be on their side but rather feel that these broadcasters are neutral (with the exceptions of several MSNBC shows perhaps). Btw the more left leaning a reporter is the harder he often attacks leftists to prove his reporting is neutral.
If anyone considers CNN, ABC, NBC, or MSNBC neutral, than they are fooling themselves. ABC had a special broadcast from the White House all about government run health care.
I would not say Fox is neutral either, so lets all begin by admitting what we already know:
Fox leans to the right and all the others lean to the left.
You simply cannot say that only because they fail to cover the same subjects as Fox, the other broadcasters are biased. They are being perceived as biased only by Fox viewers who are puzzled that CNN does shows different things than FOX. I work in television and I can tell you that there is little to no room for political prejudices in reporting. The whole thing is so much more complicated than those people think who claim CNN is left-leaning.
@Rajaat99 - I work in the non-fiction/ documentary field. And I think I said before that there are some editorialising shows that are of course biased. The problem with Fox is, they editorialize all the time. And I am not saying people in TV have no prejudices. What I am saying is that news-reporting on the big networks is not biased. However, if you think not mentioning god, abortion and patriotism all the time makes you biased, then of course all the networks must be biased for you.
Because a nonpartisan study showed that liberals are 10 times, or there abouts, more likely to cheat on there taxes and defraud the government then conservatives. Besides that Liberal as more likely to get and say on welfare than conservatives. That was also pointed out in this study. You want know who wrote it, do the work your self and find it. Why do you put so much trust in the government to do things when you didn't trust the last one. Which Might I remind you was the same one.
Accusing the opposition of crimes doesn't support your claims. And if you make an unsubstantiated claim, don't ask the person you're arguing with to substantiate it for you.
I didn't trust the last administration because they lied constantly, got caught lying, and kept repeating the same lies after they got caught. This administration hasn't done that. "The government" isn't a single entity and can't be trusted or distrusted (not rationally anyway).
If HTWW really wants to score points find another video that shows LV being dishonest and put him on the defensive. Right now LV has the edge. HTWW is relying too much on 'incontext' Thats says I'm right if you look at it in a certain sort of way.
Asking people to rate is fine. Asking people to rate and suggesting a certain score is not. That's something you would expect in communist dictatorship. Right HTWW?
Its sad how he has to ask all the viewers to rate 5 stars and subscribe. Then he links his own videos to other videos. Its like the only way he will get people to watch his videos. People like The Amazing Athiest is much more popular and he doesn't do any of that....
What's wrong with asking people to rate? He just wants to engage his audience. You're allowed to 1 star it if you don't like it.
TAA is amusing and popular but he's just another outlet of liberal propaganda- sometimes he's right, other times he's wrong, and many times he has no idea what he's saying. He doesn't need to ask because he already has an established fan base.
Lastly, let's assume you're correct. Would you say Tf00t is sad as well? After all, he asks people to rate too.
Actually I was just saying that to see if the rumours of HTWW actually does censor all his movies so that just the good comments are shown and he blocks all views opposing. I really don't care if they ask to rate subscribe or favourite and donate to their cause. I can guarentee that I won't do any of those things to anyone. Never watched Tf00t and I watch TAA for, like you said, the entertainment value :) but he does make some points on the world today that I can agree on.
Lee has removed videos, but most of that occurred back in March when hundreds of 12 year olds flooded his videos with junk comments boasting of having 1 starred his videos without even watching them.
However, he hasn't do so since to my knowledge.
If you just scroll down the comment pages, you can see some real debate.
Okay, Idk, I saw videos of people complaining that he does just to boost his reputation. I don't hate the guy, but neither do I like him, I don't know him, and I haven't seen many of his videos. However I lied when I said I haven't seen any of Tf00t's videos. I found a link on TAA page brining me to it so I said "why not" and it showed HTWW making fun of his own faithful subscriber by calling her a fool and a drone for posting her own opinion, and he never apologized....
Well both these guys are stupid to think that either of them is going to admit defeat. So this is pointless. I think that this whole back and forth is proof that the truth is relative. And nothing can be drawn from this but opinion. But as for the honesty in what I am viewing. I do know what Lee's name is while the Liberal Viewer hides behide an alter ego. So I will stand with the man who's willing to stand behind his name.
Wow, you're so stupid. The length of your quote doesn't change how ridiculous your comparison is. The rambling you did at the start of the quote does not legitimize your idiotic claim.
03:54: "That has never happened before in America" referring to the kids writing letters about helping the president.
Except that it HAS happened before, most recently under George HW Bush. Democrats that got all bent out of shape about it then looked as dumb as people look who are throwing a fit now.
1) Hunter gatherer societies were not 'Destroyed by Capitalists.' According to Marx, they evolved into Capitalists. =)
2) Libertarianism is an ideology.
3) Sorites Paradox again.
All economies are "Mixed Economies" as long as they exist between Laissez-faire and 'utopia'.
'True' communism has never actually been realized anywhere in the world. For some reason it always gets prematurely "Destroyed by Capitalists" as if failure to control the market doesn't result in a free market anyway..
You're a little nerd weasel who needs to catch one to the nose. I saw your little slut on facebook shes kind of nasty and is no doubt a boring lay but I'd still like to fuck her mouth for shits a giggles/you. You're the kind of guy who trys to tell a funny story at the dinner table and no one laughs, just an out of touch, humorless geek.
Wow, you've converted me to your side! That's such an intelligent and mature objection worthy of our fore father's gratitude! Go ahead and keep looking up 2 girls and 1 cup videos for inspiration in your everyday life.
Actually, and interestingly, I posted my comment before seeing the final minute or so of the video, wherein HTWW proclaims that Liberal Viewer is dishonest to his viewers. Just figured that it would be funny to post.
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Lee says "There's no precedent for population-control laws--"?
WTF?
In Buck v. Bell, the US Supreme Court upheld MANDATORY STERILIZATION laws, when it decided that "three generations of imbeciles is enough."
So it's absurd to say that population-control laws aren't similar enough.
SovereignStatesman 2 months ago
Where can I find that be the change video?
mycarnage2000 8 months ago
Where can I find that be the change video.
mycarnage2000 8 months ago
@silverspirit2001
Ehh??
Yes i know. Enumerated powers were enumerated so that the general welfare clause could justified everything. So the constitution can say whatever it wants, but if a judge and congress say something is there, then it is and I'm wrong. Of course the obvious conflict of interest (the supreme judge is nominated by the president) does not matter, and the fact that the founding fathers were for limited government does not say anything about what they had in mind.
serialkiller1990 8 months ago
I subscribe to both LV and HTWW. To be honest LV's videos have become painful to watch lately. Pointing out Fox bias in a biased manner is really quite pointless and he can't even make his stuff entertaining.
Xasew 9 months ago 4
Rubbish response, addresses none of the points LV raised.
eminentgentleman 10 months ago
you really want me to subscribe after THAT!?
andrewgamba99 11 months ago
Too much arrogance, HTWW can pass off opinions as facts despite several contradictions.
CHAOSoriginal 11 months ago
I wonder if the point he made at 2:43 wasn't that Fox should have seen the info on the blog an hour prior to airing, but that if the blog was able to get the correct info, then why couldn't Fox?
DarkMatter2525 11 months ago
02:21 "we are the borg obama is our queen."
sixwingproductions 11 months ago
@sixwingproductions, lol...yeah that promo was kinda creepy.
DarkMatter2525 11 months ago
7:10 HAHAHAHAHA!!! LiberalViewer thinks of himself as an expert in... it doesn't even matter. He could think himself to be an expert in ice fishing and I would still laugh. This guy is a clown.
Every single comment question this guy makes is intellectually dishonest and he has the audacity to accuse others of the same thing? What a disgrace.
ThoseWhoStayUofM 1 year ago
@ThoseWhoStayUofM and you are a retard.
go fuck your boyfriend and stop defiling this board.
Meansofviewing 11 months ago
Wow, do you not even listen to your own video?
1. in 1794 Elias Boudinot cited the welfare clause in article 1 section 8 to allow the expenditure.
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The Congress shall have power To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defence and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
The congress declared it constitutional, and the court declared it a (cont)
silverspirit2001 1 year ago 3
@quarterexchange X2.....
mikeyboy236 1 year ago
It appears that LiberalViewer did not respond to this video. I went through his videos and his last video directed at HTWW is September 17th 2009.
xleax 1 year ago
I think you should be forcibly sterilized lee. Why hasn't Holden done this yet?
Kriegtime101 1 year ago
Lee is such a little loser. Why does he always insist on lying?
jossman25 1 year ago
@jossman25 what's he lying about
BorgKing001 1 year ago
@jossman25 Did you actually watch the video?
mikeyboy236 1 year ago
Liberal Viewer seems honest to me, you on the other hand seem deceitful
101shitkid 1 year ago
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@101shitkid seem? really, seem??? How about you just look at the facts instead of vanity
BorgKing001 1 year ago
Now if you said that "...almost every single video that LiberalViewer makes is totally dishonest and false, and i'm gonna prove that to you." OK, where is the proof??? Your nothing but a joke!
jgreco2001 1 year ago
When you're speaking from 3:19 to 3:50, a nine year old would understand that by doing all of the things you just said, like "improving your grades, getting into college, and being a better person" you would be helping Pres. Obama because when you do any of these things you help everyone involved in your life out. EVEN if the children didn't see that message at first, SURELY the teachers who are there to guide the students would be able to give them ideas for helping him out indirectly.
j2daKproduckshunz 1 year ago
I love the the part where you showed him destroying himself on the General Welfare Clause!
CRTV1982 1 year ago 2
@Jermbot15 He proablly doesn't know how to. That is why he is mislead.
infamchef 1 year ago
Obama.
dreammmafan1101 1 year ago
It's funny how you have a go at him for dishonesty.....
wranglers575 1 year ago
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Its funny how you have a go at him for being dishonest.....
wranglers575 1 year ago
Its funny how you have a go at him for being dishonest.....
wranglers575 1 year ago
wow even in the context which you presented john holdren it never says that he supports the use of those actions, it says that it could be deemed constitutional, how hard can it be to tell the difference? there are many other errors in your logic and ways in which you present context that aren't lending any credence to your claim of being in any way shape or form right, sorry man, give it up
awfulnhead 1 year ago
"Banana republics and Stalinist regimes". Sorry dude, but in a slightly broader context the US has been indoctrinating her youth for decades. I've lived in the US from 3-8 years old and I can still drone up the Pledge of Allegiance upon command.
Was this particular event indoctrination? I'll leave the answer up to you. Don't pretend however that it never happened before in the US. The entire curriculum is full of it.
Gragham77 1 year ago
You guys are cute. You can cut the sexual tension with a knife...
mcbobbo 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
hey how the world works.... have you ever wondered why your skanky video's are 1 and 2 star vids. you're a loser and you know it
StarbuckHysteria 2 years ago
I would have to say likely
drezmelk 2 years ago
I'm totally subscribing to both of you guys. No way could I get better representation of both the liberal democrat and conservative republicans totally partisan views.
I mean, on one side Obama's a Stalinist dictator and on the other side he's the best thing since sliced bread.
When really all he is is just another president. Batter than Bush?? I think so - but leader of dramatic change of thinking for the USA?? Ehh...
moonlady3000 2 years ago
dropping knowledge like a clumsy librarian
davisfleetwood 2 years ago
dude, you are the argument for abortion. I have said this phrase a lot of times before but never i have i meant it as much as i am about to ''fuck you, you fucking prick'' your lame, your views are wrong and you are not as smart as you think you are. go and fucking die. you are a sad excuse for a man.... i honestly pity you...pathetic dick
danthezimman 2 years ago
Funny,HTWW has names,dates,places,audio,video,and articles written by the people he's comenting on , and the only thing the critics have is a lot of ad hominems out of context statements and no evidence that the things he says are erroneous.
filter021 2 years ago 24
@filter021 If you truly believe a single word of what you just said, then you should go back to school and learn basic argumentation and logic.
Dhomden 1 year ago
@Dhomden How about you argue the facts and not my education.
filter021 1 year ago
god damn you are an idiot...
Taboda 2 years ago
Respond to this.....Why was it ok for Bush senior t talk to us in the 90's? I do remember that i was in middle school when that happened. Remember your video says that the classroom activity's are what count right. I remember not wanting to watch Bush but I was forced to............
maynerd23 2 years ago
You were forced against your will to watch Bush Sr. talk to you in the classroom, so your distaste over that is justification to have kids forced to watch Obama talk to them today? That's just hypocritical. I wouldn't support any President talking to kids about anything without it being voluntary.
neonical 2 years ago
What ever lol!!!!! I had no control over Bush talking to us....or Obama talking to our kids. It happened so get over it.
maynerd23 2 years ago
@neonical Then you wouldn't mind your kids getting an F for a day? If you want them to miss it fine, but to make it fair to the other kids, your kid should get an F for the day. I had to watch president Bush senior in school tell us to do well in school and stay away from drugs. Though as an adult I do not agree with any Bush, it was an innocuous, non political event meant to educate children as a civics lesson. Obama is no different.
jossman25 1 year ago 2
why do you have so many sock accounts????? Thats crazy and foxish!
maynerd23 2 years ago
Hmmm... "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country!"
Was that stalin?
dasquirrel715 2 years ago
When LiberalViewer once answered comments on his videos I was able to get him angry and away from his false civility in an argument over the ACLU defending members of NAMBLA by playing devils advocate for a parent feeling the pain of a child being a victim of NAMBLA "activities" if they were to become legal. Seems he feels the same about his 6 year old daughter that I would feel if a daughter of mine were LEGALLY approachable by this disgusting group. That's a way of getting to him.
bush1tman 2 years ago
Tell that to the Board of Walmart.
rotcafarg 2 years ago
gee you vid sure is cutting quite abit
funhouse21 2 years ago
weird... your stalinistic comment was directly in context....is there something wrong with your brain? lol
alexkidd3d 2 years ago
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gabby00a 2 years ago
I really don't think LiberalViewer has ever seriously studied the constitution. Or understands what logic is.
JohnBreadForger 2 years ago
@JohnBreadForger, Yeah, I guess you're right on that one.
pharaoh337 2 years ago
So Reagen talking about trickle-down economics to kids doesn't qualify as bias? I mean I don't like Obama either but you've got to admit that's a huge double standard.
PolemicalCommentary 2 years ago
What I don't like is how HTWW starts to talk really fast at certain parts. It makes it really hard to follow your argument, but makes it sound like you have a lot of points. So, I stopped and started your video so that I could actually process what you were saying, and realized that you tend to gloss over things the most when you speed up. Thanks for purposefully being deceitful, bastard.
AblativeOfMeans 2 years ago
Funny how you showed the quote with the "students should". That is the one quote in your original video that is absolutely false. I have pointed this out to you before, but you still have not done any corrections. It said COULD and not SHOULD. Two very different meanings.
ozswede74 2 years ago
Anyone giving this a poor rating is clearly, clearly biased. Liberal Viewer OBVIOUSLY misrepresented his response in the most black and white way you can think of. Video evidence is pretty damning so you have to be quite stupid to watch something right in front of your own eyes and then say something else is going on. The only person that might think Liberal Viewer was just making a mistake or that they are in fact correct would be Helen Keller.
smiledammit24 2 years ago
Good for you, darling! Don't let someone bully you, esp if they are lying and misleading others! Thanks for everything.
caffeinequeen89 2 years ago
What a vague, weak attempt at...well anything. Hat has been tipped to you sir.
SuedeLoafer 2 years ago 3
Weak.
Tofu4Dinner 2 years ago
Dang, how can anybody watch you when you have this condescending toned voice all the time...
YayforOCD 2 years ago
That's basically my problem with most commentators on youtube, but this guy seems to be far worse then most videos on youtube. This guy almost seems to think he is better then 90% of the people he talks about.
Although I suppose by saying this, I'm not much better but at least I don't think I'm better then anyone here.
CalistoCoon 2 years ago
LOL Glenn simply ran out of time? Are you fucking serious? Wait a minute...where's the PROOF that Glenn Beck ran out of time? You're blaming LiberalViewer for being dishonest, but you can't back your shit up with proof either. At least LV has links in the sidebar in every one of his videos as proof. You're the fucking joke here.
Azontonyboyz1 2 years ago
HTWW has links too...
micyo10 2 years ago
Oh yeah? I don't see any for this video.
Azontonyboyz1 2 years ago
Oh Yeah?
Sigh... that's because this video is referring to other videos that HTTW has already made. If you go to those videos, you will see the links on the relevant issues that these guys are talking about.
micyo10 2 years ago
What about that incredibly ridiculous claim that "Glenn Beck simply ran out of time" and cut Michelle Malkin off. Where's the proof for that? He has 0 links to all those (bullshit) claims he made at the end about Liberal Viewer's videos.
Azontonyboyz1 2 years ago
perfect example of how to defeat a liberal. tell the truth the way it happened. Please everyone annoy a liberal, use facts and logic.
acman1998 2 years ago
Why does LV sound like he's breathlessly scared shitless every time he talks?
Like some cop's pushed him against a corner with tough questions and he takes a four second inhale to make sure he doesn't trip over his lies.
YesIAmDwight 2 years ago
LOL
That you think comments are removed because of thumbs down is priceless.
Jermbot15 2 years ago 4
And the constitutional idiocy begins.
The Liberalviewer, having read the constitution determined it was constitutional because of Article 1 and Section 8 of the constitution. Congress having read the constitution also reached that conclusion. They did not reach that conclusion and passed a law.
Nobody reached a conclusion because they passed a law.
And by the way, it takes a pretty high degree of stupid to think constitutionality equals support.
Jermbot15 2 years ago
It's sad to see all these dumb children who have never taken a class in economics taking over our country. Not to mention these eugenicists who want to kill 90% of the population.
BrettDunbar 2 years ago
Has youtube caught up with your cheating yet?
TouchOfGreatness 2 years ago 4
hahaha..
acerbicmoor 2 years ago
Obama sucks, Liberalviewer sucks, amazing atheist sucks.
VegasBilgeRat 2 years ago
Alittle bitter? Is that all you have to say is that Obama & liberalviewer Suck? That is some very down right deep thinking mate.
HarperMatrix 2 years ago
Where was all this emotion in the past 8 years?During anti-war protests fauxnews was all called the protesters un-american, now protesters get all the good press from fauxnews.This reaching has gotten out of controll.Taking weapons to meetings and such is unprecedented and all excuses for it fail.These people and their excuses are the definition of sore losers.
tretrioeciii 2 years ago 4
Agreed.
Interesting that protesters at the town hall meetings are allowed to bring firearms, including AR-15s to the events. And of course, Faux News indicates that they are merely exercising their constitutional rights.
But in a similar protest near a town hall meeting during Bush's tenure, a group of folks were arrested for simply wearing T-shirts with Bush-Hitler characatures. (Which also occurs now) So why the distinction? Plain and simple right wing HYPOCRISY.
Diomedes01 2 years ago
Who really gives a shit if itsw right or left wing? In each instance it was the GOVERNMENT that was taking away your civil rights. Get my point?
Orionx26 2 years ago 6
I love how you say "False statements." And never counteract or link your own information to show how you are right and you simply say. "He is wrong."
Im amused.
SirRavin 2 years ago
The fact is statist science is bullshit, science and the modenr cult that follows it is assinine and entirely wrong, from the gravitationists, to the darwinist scum, to murderers of human being in test tubes its all wasteful disgusting filth that is a lie and has no place in the realm of FRE AND COMPETIVE inquiry, which what the FRE MARKET ACCOMPLISHES.
Fact is the environment does not need to be protected, The "enivironment" is not an "issue" is a lie and has no place in the Constitution.
deltapunk21 2 years ago
Seriously?
Sardonac 2 years ago
And also his garbage about the environment, his bs statement that they need to learn math and science...bullshit....that is not the purpose of education for fascist like nthe pig Obama its to indoctrinate kids into queerdom and contraception and other immoral ungodly crap and make them little faggots he can rape or screw just like Larry Sinclair. As usual leftist pigs and swine attach themselves to imaginary "luminous" departments of phony "learning" to make themselves appear slef-important.
deltapunk21 2 years ago
You'll need the knowledge and problem-solving skills you learn in science and math to cure diseases like cancer and AIDS, and to develop new energy technologies and protect our environment. You'll need the insights and critical thinking skills you gain in history and social studies to fight poverty and homelessness, crime and discrimination, and make our nation more fair and more free."
The AIDS and cancer canard, tyopical government garbage about exploiting disease they don't understand.
deltapunk21 2 years ago
The topic was not about "succeeding in school" the bullshit speech was re-written as reported in the press after the grass roots fire that lit up against this fascist aytypical democrat indoctrination of America these pigs leies their asses. Fascist"viewer" as usual lied about the contex of the bullshit lessons plans and Obamafuhrer speech, it was not about school which is garbage but about himself and his phony "life story" etc. His original "speech" was to be 15 minutes(!) long.
deltapunk21 2 years ago
Lol, okay, demean my('re?) type for needing to have the last word since I'm not letting you have it, then call me ignorant and run away because you don't agree. How mature. =)
It's "practical and theoretical" relationship is implicit in socioeconomics, and can be observed with simple algebra. I'm not the only one who thinks so, but I'm sure Friedrich Hayek was also ignorant about such things.
My rights don't come from you, and you just proved my point. Feel free to start the war unarmed..
NobodyImportant2008 2 years ago
It is my opinion that you are wasting your time arguing with the Liberal Viewer. Who cares about the Liberal Viewers ridiculous comments. You know that is a complete waste of time arguing with those who bend the truth and completely make up shit to support their agenda. Spend your time on important things, like all of the shit our Government is burying us in!
randyconrep 2 years ago
Things wrong with this:
1) The point isn't that FOX didn't check ABC's blog, it's that FOX had more than an hour to get the correct facts from the government and didn't. Considering they're a big news corporation, they have the resources and responsibility to do so. (ie, Most current Information)
HarvDent2 2 years ago
2) Umm...Yeah...I did a similar thing when I was 8 (what if you were President). Though I do agree to an extent that authority figures would have a big influence on kids minds, it's not "brainwashing" or anything similar. Presidents talk to kids all the time (shocker?). It doesn't mean that they're going to turn into a little army. And I'm pretty sure a teacher who has more experience with kids than you would be a better judge than you or me.
HarvDent2 2 years ago
3) When you compare a person's actions to another's, you're comparing the two people. By talking about thanking the leader (like Obama) only happening in stalinist regime's, you're comparing Obama to Stalin. EX: George W Bush..blahblahblah..Facist regime's take away people's rights.
HarvDent2 2 years ago
See? Looks like I'm comparing Bush to a fascist even though I didn't actually say it. Doesn't matter what I meant, it just matters on how most people break down their sentences and since I'm sure most people broke it down like LiberalViewer, you should try and work on your communication skills (not an insult, constructive critisism)
HarvDent2 2 years ago
4) For a guy who complains about cutting qutoes and being in context, you sure do seem to like to cut quotes and take things out of context.
5) You said that the points he made against you're video were in your video if I'm getting what yo're saying. Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you sayign the counter-points to his counter points were actually the original points? And one minute you'd say "I already adressed those points so I didn't reply" and the next you'd say "I actually did reply".
HarvDent2 2 years ago
6) Are you actually making fun of LiberalViewer for using Big Words?
7) Again, you're Madison Quote was a paraphrase. There's a difference between it. One is actually from the person, and the other is someone else's understanding of what he said. Like you and LiberalViewer have different views on teh same events, you'd paraphrase what happened, let's say in Obama's speech, completley differently. Paraphrasing=/= Quote.
HarvDent2 2 years ago
8) If the constitution can be wrong, why can't a founding father? Lincoln (not a founding father, but still) was against inter-racial marriage/children. If that was put to congress in the 1900s, we probably wouldn't even have Obamas (bi-racials).
9) Using previous examples of inaccuracies is a bad way of showing that a Youtuber(?) has a history of inaccuracies? Not sure how this is baiting...
HarvDent2 2 years ago
10) If one of the founders was part of a "group" doesn't make the institution founded a part of that group. Most Conspiracy theorists will tell you the Free Masons run the US since most of the Founding Fathers were Masons and the whole DC layout and Dollar thing.
HarvDent2 2 years ago
11) Cold War is over. Stop calling everything supported by Marx or his "followers" Communist in a negative way. Minimum wage can be considered communist. Charity can be considered communist. Taxes can be considered communist. etc etc. The problem isn't Communism, it's dictatorship and I think we've gotten to a point where we can recognize that.
HarvDent2 2 years ago
12) For a dude who wants to have an intelligent Debate, you seem to have a lot of simple spelling/grammar mistakes (too instead of to, your instead of you're)...
13) Again, the problem isn't that you didn't check the ACLU site, it's that you didn't FACT CHECk once again. That's why it wasn't known to you, because you didn't check.
14) Name me one organiztion that help's everyone they said they would. WHO's Smallpox division?
HarvDent2 2 years ago
15) Calling a guy a Lunatic isn't a fact, it's an opinion. Do you honeslty believe that you're the only one who knows that John Holdren is crazy? And you didn't touch on the whole "Czar" thing either. And I'm pretty sure when someone says "if", it doesn't mean "will". And you're misquoting him once again.
HarvDent2 2 years ago
He isn't talking about actually using a sterilizer in the water suppley, he's sayign if one existed that was possible for it to work that way (in the water), in order to be acceptable it must meet condition a b and c. He doesn't even talk about or allude to secretly wanting to do it. And China has Popualtion Control and most 3rd World countries are getting it to. It's called sex Education.
HarvDent2 2 years ago
It's called sex Education. Giving away free Condoms and stuff in most of Asia and Africa and China's problem ridden One Child Policy so Population Control does exist since there are a lot of places that have more people than they can support. Go to India and tell me there isn't a population problem. I'm pretty sure LiberalViewer isn't the one with the poor reading skills.
HarvDent2 2 years ago 3
16) Well, I've seen you're comments to LiberalViewer and you're replies to them and he is actually pretty "nice" to you and definitley Polite. You on the other hand kind of seemed shocked that someone disagrees with you and do call people names frequently (how many times did you say crazy/Lunatic/idiot/a Joke or something similar about someone you disagree with in this video alone?).
HarvDent2 2 years ago
17) Now for you're LiberalViewer Misleading:
a) The Health Reform helps Illegal Immigrants because there's no way of stopping them from getting it? Are you aware of how it works in other countries? Health cards so the Hospitals know if you're a ctizen or covered. The governement isn't that stupid.
b) Malkin was gone because the Producers since it's there job not to get a illion calls for offending someone (or maybe even Beck) thought she was too "crazy" after her cut off.
HarvDent2 2 years ago
c) How's it a lie when he's quoted to saying he disagreed? And, the guy who defended him on FOX Sundays said that a lot of times people end up signing everything put in front of them.
HarvDent2 2 years ago
18) You're using the Exact same point LiberalViewer made against you against him (Pattern of Lies)? Really?
HarvDent2 2 years ago
you sir, should get a metal...GOOD JOB!
MARfilms 2 years ago
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MidNiteR32 2 years ago
i'm not sure if you could be any more wrong...
tickitytak 2 years ago
wait a minute htww, did you not go to a public school, so how can you object that public funds pay for some one else's education, even if they do not agree with you.?
i dont think you would be so happy about someone saying the very same thing about you.
canuckscottsmen 2 years ago
so whats going to happen if you outlaw a group of people that are paying into the system how is that going to make things better on a whole, so buy outlawing illegal aliens to be able to purchase health insurance if they end up in the hospital it will end up costing allot more for the us gov because they will now how to pay the bill for even more people,
i think there is a major error in that argument.
canuckscottsmen 2 years ago
6:26
Epic fail by HTWW
jaydogg7253 2 years ago
EXACTLY. My guess? He has never even taken an intro to political science class. Much less a constitutional law class. It would be cute if it wasn't so sad.
mfaulkner12 2 years ago
Good work, Lee!
flurdalee 2 years ago
Lee Dorin is a fucking Dork
sjcpal 2 years ago
1a) Saying they were "Pre-capitalist" does not make them Communists by default.
1b) Nigeria wasn't 'destroyed' by british colonialism.
1c) Communism is "Destroyed by Capitalists" whenever it changes. What else could possibly happen?
2) When free-market ideology devolves into hegemony, it is because power became centralized - a feature inherent in Communism (Totalitarian)
3) You outlined the Sorites Paradox while simultaneously denying it. Your last paragraph uses this abiguity as a shield.
NobodyImportant2008 2 years ago
(cont'd) Libertarianism is a naive perspective, built on the myth that people act in their best interests, are always moral or ethical, & that nothing ill or evil befalls people who do not already deserve it ...
Libertarianism, at least in the way it is promulgated by Mr. Doren, seems also to be philosophy of hyperbole, with any exercise in state (read that Federal) intervention called, 'Fascist' or 'Marxist' etc.
This is just silly. How the world really works is more complicated than that.
GeoffreyDinosaurs 2 years ago
(cont'd) The inherent imperfectability of people, the degree to which people do not live up to their ethics & morals, & the extent that random, unfortunate acts befall us simply require a mature response, which is where the albeit imperfect patchwork of regulations & reforms that are the product of modern Liberalism come from ...
GeoffreyDinosaurs 2 years ago
I can't help but find it ironic that a Libertarian would choose the handle "How The World Works", since Libertarianism is perhaps the most utopian, pie-in-the-sky non-reflection on how the world actually works ... while left-liberalism (mixed-economy, social safety-nets, a strong welfare state, progressive social values), far from being utopian - as it is often described - is actually the mature, non-dogmatic reaction to the imperfection of modern life.
GeoffreyDinosaurs 2 years ago
WHAT!!! A SERVENT TO OUR PRESIDENT!!! ,the US is in serious trouble ,not to mention the world
kevrs2 2 years ago
the video is called "i pledge"
realhxq 2 years ago
Are you retarded?
"Nationalized Socialism is a form of Fascism"
That is all. I'm not even explaining it. You're nobody important alright.
averagekid82 2 years ago
Are *you* retarded?
Nationalized Socialism is a form of Fascism. Are you trying to argue that the Nazis weren't Fascists?
Go do your homework, stupid kid.
NobodyImportant2008 2 years ago
Dear Nobody, actually the average kid is correct. Nationalized Socialism is not a form of Fascism. What you are probably refering is National Socialism which is of course a Fascist ideology. Nationalized Socialism came into existence around the 1890s and encompassed a number of different theories and models most of which have very, very little resemblance to National Socialism.
slightlygrouchy 2 years ago
Feel free to cite some sources which distinguish "National Socialism", from "Nationalized Socialism", "Socialist Nationalism", or whatever. The terms mean what they say.
Even assuming the terms were different, it's obviously not enough so to justify the emphasis being used by people who claim to know better. In fact, there's a good chance that whatever you're referring to is called by a more appropriate name than the one *you* are using and may still fit under the fascist umbrella as well.
NobodyImportant2008 2 years ago
Nobody: really, there is a gigantic difference. The first proponent of a nationalized socialism was the German philosopher Johann Fichte, whom nobody would ever accuse of being a Fascist. Another one is Walther Rathenau, a foreign minister in the Weimar Republic.
There are huge ideological differences between nationalized socialism and National Socialism, one of which is that National Socialism was actual pro-capitalist. The former is definitely not fascist.
slightlygrouchy 2 years ago
Your proof that the two concepts are different is to cite German Nationalism? Try again, Grouchy. We need a reference that shows "Nationalized Socialism" is a thing, distinct from "National Socialism." (IE, that "National" has not been "Nationalized".)
It was not Pro-capitalist. It had no qualms about nationalizing life & property to serve the state-ideology. It was a post-Capitalist (See: Keynesian, Super Capitalist, Corporatist, etc) response to the Marxian Crisis of Communism.
NobodyImportant2008 2 years ago
I just read a few comments here, and this "NobodyImportant" fellow purports that liberals are the aggressors toward the conservatives. Oddly enough, in his argument with the "King" fellow, I noticed the NI fellow doing the attacking.
Interesting. Before anybody judges my comment, I do not align myself with either side of politics. Preemptive defense, bitches.
averagekid82 2 years ago
Unlike you, King\Grouchy and I have been mostly civil with eachother and it's been mutual. I haven't 'attacked' Liberals for anything other than the categorical progressivist hostility toward American traditions. Who is 'attacking' is the subject of the debate.
You're just a childish heckler trying to cause trouble, which is typical. Your pre-emptive proclaimation of neutrality only shows that you are a liar, ignorant of, and unproductive to the subject, and should probably just go away.
NobodyImportant2008 2 years ago 2
omfg u must be retarded!! he shot u down just lie with it, u sir are retarded!
TheISLAMisFAKE 2 years ago
Great job Lee... much respect!
ConservativeResponse 2 years ago
Why are Dems so afraid of Fox News? They have CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, am I missing anymore?
Rajaat99 2 years ago
@Rajaat - Liberals and anybody else who is a fan of fairness, truthfulness and rational argumentation are not afraid of Fox but angry at it because it spreads lies and fear. And I think very, very few liberals actually consider CNN, ABC, NBC or MSNBC (and CBS) to be on their side but rather feel that these broadcasters are neutral (with the exceptions of several MSNBC shows perhaps). Btw the more left leaning a reporter is the harder he often attacks leftists to prove his reporting is neutral.
slightlygrouchy 2 years ago
@slightlygrouchy
If anyone considers CNN, ABC, NBC, or MSNBC neutral, than they are fooling themselves. ABC had a special broadcast from the White House all about government run health care.
I would not say Fox is neutral either, so lets all begin by admitting what we already know:
Fox leans to the right and all the others lean to the left.
Rajaat99 2 years ago
You simply cannot say that only because they fail to cover the same subjects as Fox, the other broadcasters are biased. They are being perceived as biased only by Fox viewers who are puzzled that CNN does shows different things than FOX. I work in television and I can tell you that there is little to no room for political prejudices in reporting. The whole thing is so much more complicated than those people think who claim CNN is left-leaning.
slightlygrouchy 2 years ago
@slightlygrouchy
Please tell me you're joking. You actually believe that Fox is the only politically leaning new network?
You work in television? Where? For who?
Television is full of political prejudices. If you'd like I can make a list of shows with political prejudices for you.
Rajaat99 2 years ago
@Rajaat99 - I work in the non-fiction/ documentary field. And I think I said before that there are some editorialising shows that are of course biased. The problem with Fox is, they editorialize all the time. And I am not saying people in TV have no prejudices. What I am saying is that news-reporting on the big networks is not biased. However, if you think not mentioning god, abortion and patriotism all the time makes you biased, then of course all the networks must be biased for you.
slightlygrouchy 2 years ago
Because a nonpartisan study showed that liberals are 10 times, or there abouts, more likely to cheat on there taxes and defraud the government then conservatives. Besides that Liberal as more likely to get and say on welfare than conservatives. That was also pointed out in this study. You want know who wrote it, do the work your self and find it. Why do you put so much trust in the government to do things when you didn't trust the last one. Which Might I remind you was the same one.
HarperMatrix 2 years ago
Accusing the opposition of crimes doesn't support your claims. And if you make an unsubstantiated claim, don't ask the person you're arguing with to substantiate it for you.
I didn't trust the last administration because they lied constantly, got caught lying, and kept repeating the same lies after they got caught. This administration hasn't done that. "The government" isn't a single entity and can't be trusted or distrusted (not rationally anyway).
uberjim83 2 years ago
If HTWW really wants to score points find another video that shows LV being dishonest and put him on the defensive. Right now LV has the edge. HTWW is relying too much on 'incontext' Thats says I'm right if you look at it in a certain sort of way.
tretrioeciii 2 years ago
im just curious why you think he's a "jerk"? you're not the first one to call Lee a jerk or asshole or whatever.
Jda4160 2 years ago
Lee absolutely tooled on this liberal viewer..i would be surprised if the liberalviewer made a response video.
Jda4160 2 years ago
Asking people to rate is fine. Asking people to rate and suggesting a certain score is not. That's something you would expect in communist dictatorship. Right HTWW?
tretrioeciii 2 years ago
Its sad how he has to ask all the viewers to rate 5 stars and subscribe. Then he links his own videos to other videos. Its like the only way he will get people to watch his videos. People like The Amazing Athiest is much more popular and he doesn't do any of that....
BrynKing 2 years ago
What's wrong with asking people to rate? He just wants to engage his audience. You're allowed to 1 star it if you don't like it.
TAA is amusing and popular but he's just another outlet of liberal propaganda- sometimes he's right, other times he's wrong, and many times he has no idea what he's saying. He doesn't need to ask because he already has an established fan base.
Lastly, let's assume you're correct. Would you say Tf00t is sad as well? After all, he asks people to rate too.
TheRingil 2 years ago
Actually I was just saying that to see if the rumours of HTWW actually does censor all his movies so that just the good comments are shown and he blocks all views opposing. I really don't care if they ask to rate subscribe or favourite and donate to their cause. I can guarentee that I won't do any of those things to anyone. Never watched Tf00t and I watch TAA for, like you said, the entertainment value :) but he does make some points on the world today that I can agree on.
BrynKing 2 years ago
Lee has removed videos, but most of that occurred back in March when hundreds of 12 year olds flooded his videos with junk comments boasting of having 1 starred his videos without even watching them.
However, he hasn't do so since to my knowledge.
If you just scroll down the comment pages, you can see some real debate.
TheRingil 2 years ago
Okay, Idk, I saw videos of people complaining that he does just to boost his reputation. I don't hate the guy, but neither do I like him, I don't know him, and I haven't seen many of his videos. However I lied when I said I haven't seen any of Tf00t's videos. I found a link on TAA page brining me to it so I said "why not" and it showed HTWW making fun of his own faithful subscriber by calling her a fool and a drone for posting her own opinion, and he never apologized....
BrynKing 2 years ago
I'm not asking you to like. I'm just asking you to form an opinion based on more than just a few blatantly ad hominem videos.
TheRingil 2 years ago
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tretrioeciii 2 years ago
This guy just contradicted himself.
tretrioeciii 2 years ago
What makes an act constitutional?
tretrioeciii 2 years ago
its funny. Liberal Viewer is no match for Lee. its like a kindergartener debating a university professor.
keep up the good work Lee.
newstar77 2 years ago
good analogy
Jda4160 2 years ago
Well both these guys are stupid to think that either of them is going to admit defeat. So this is pointless. I think that this whole back and forth is proof that the truth is relative. And nothing can be drawn from this but opinion. But as for the honesty in what I am viewing. I do know what Lee's name is while the Liberal Viewer hides behide an alter ego. So I will stand with the man who's willing to stand behind his name.
12Joeneu 2 years ago
So when something is not specifically banned, it's specifically supported?
That's completely retarded.
CeraSeptem 2 years ago
You guy's are just debating tiny details at this point! Get on with your lives!
alienman909 2 years ago
liberal viewer is a homophile nut job, still pissed off over the prop 8 out come.
tvshowclassics 2 years ago
It's people like the Liberal Viewer why we have Obama and the democrats in office.
Deleanredtiger 2 years ago
@ 3:11
Wow, you're so stupid. The length of your quote doesn't change how ridiculous your comparison is. The rambling you did at the start of the quote does not legitimize your idiotic claim.
SuperDuperJesus 2 years ago
03:54: "That has never happened before in America" referring to the kids writing letters about helping the president.
Except that it HAS happened before, most recently under George HW Bush. Democrats that got all bent out of shape about it then looked as dumb as people look who are throwing a fit now.
eunicron 2 years ago
What? Oh...... I thought this was supposed to be a "fisting" video. I guess it's just gay dentist porn.
Chadfish 2 years ago 2
4:30 it has still not been commented !!!
I proved you wrong at least one on FACTS !!!
There are more doctor per habitants in allmost all countries that has NHC in place than in the US (only place with a bit less doctor is Canada)
YOU ARE LYING ON THIS VIDEO
Melpheos1er 2 years ago
1) Hunter gatherer societies were not 'Destroyed by Capitalists.' According to Marx, they evolved into Capitalists. =)
2) Libertarianism is an ideology.
3) Sorites Paradox again.
All economies are "Mixed Economies" as long as they exist between Laissez-faire and 'utopia'.
'True' communism has never actually been realized anywhere in the world. For some reason it always gets prematurely "Destroyed by Capitalists" as if failure to control the market doesn't result in a free market anyway..
NobodyImportant2008 2 years ago
You're a little nerd weasel who needs to catch one to the nose. I saw your little slut on facebook shes kind of nasty and is no doubt a boring lay but I'd still like to fuck her mouth for shits a giggles/you. You're the kind of guy who trys to tell a funny story at the dinner table and no one laughs, just an out of touch, humorless geek.
NewtonsStudent 2 years ago
Wow, you've converted me to your side! That's such an intelligent and mature objection worthy of our fore father's gratitude! Go ahead and keep looking up 2 girls and 1 cup videos for inspiration in your everyday life.
tonybrunofan 2 years ago
Actually, and interestingly, I posted my comment before seeing the final minute or so of the video, wherein HTWW proclaims that Liberal Viewer is dishonest to his viewers. Just figured that it would be funny to post.
averagekid82 2 years ago