my name's neal and i just started to do drum (covers) videos, if any of you can please just check out my first drum cover it would be really appreciated, i'm just trying to get views and subscriptions. anyone, please?
@ evens percussion, please re-post this clip at a higher res. At least 480p. This will allow the viewer to hear a more realistic sound and will make these clips more professional. Thanks in advance.
Plenty of ways to skin a cat. Taping with a key is one and it works fine. the biggest problem with this tuning is the die-cast hoop. This narrows the tunable range, and he has clearly attempted to tune outside of that range.
Also notable, does anyone else find it interesting that a company that sells new drum heads sends a shill to youtube to tell us how important it is to throw our old heads away as soon as possible? It's almost as if they have a motivation for us to buy brand new heads.
guys, you will learn that your tone is completely how YOU like it. it varies with the person. So dont judge these videos by the comments, cause how high or low you want it is your choice, noone likes the same.
How do you tune out that Tin Can ringing that snares get. My snare sounds great but it sounds like a tin can after the hit .. And it makes gigs sound bad when i mic them.
@ziggy338 e-rings or duct tape. duct tape is one of the miracle of this world, it can really help with dampening natural reverb which drums can create, it almost acts like the pillow that we keep in our kick drums to dampen the echo and to create a more punchy sound. Give it a try. Chris
@nibjones dude... chill. This is a horrible representation I agree. All in the tuning and the brain. About finding that medium between sound and feel, knowing the shells and heads alike. But don't be trashing other people and other things, spend the time drumming instead bro
pop, ping, pong, pluhh.. "sounds good...." ..... " DONT SAVE those DAMN HEADS, even if you dont have alot of money and break one, or an accident happens at a show, when shops are closed, NO, you just say fucking throw those old heads away RIGHT NOW!
*IMPORTANT* Centering your snare wires while the throwoff is in the 'off' position as this gentleman is doing is a BAD IDEA. (sorry for shouting). The reason for this is because once you tighten back the strings (or straps) and switch the throwoff back to the 'on' position, it'll pull the wires off center. The proper way may take a few tries, but what I do is pull the wires a few millimeters towards the butt end, THEN tighten the strings and switch the throwoff 'on'; pulling them on center.
im pretty sure he can do whatever the hell he would like he works for evans haha how much money do you make? he wants to tune with the key im sure he knows alot more than you.
Don't like this vid! First of all I keep my old heads and use them as well depending on the drum I'm using and the session work I'm doing. I might want an old dirty sound so I'll use old head. Second use a stick and not the key since that is what you will be using to play the snare and Third that snare sounds like shit!!!
Why did they get an idiot to represent such a good company like Evans, don't keep your old heads? I love the sound of old heads they give it such a distinct sound, plus at 30 bucks a new head im bascially forced have to keep my old heads!
No you keep your old skins, as back up. And DO NOT replace your bottom snare skin that often, If you think that the snare are rough on the skin, spin the skin so the snares are touching somewhere else, DO NOT listen to this jackass, the video was basically a sales pitch to buy more Evans skins. BTW Remo is far better!
the thinh that I find frustrating about these vids is that they always demonstrate going around the drum to get the skin tension even. There are dozens of vids that show you how to do this - maybe hundreds.
BUT... the thing they almost never explain is... what is the relationship between the top and bottom head? Same pitch? top tighter? Bottom tighter? If so, how tight? A third? a fifth?
Why don't they ever explain this part? They only give you half the story...
Get rid of your heads - Hmmm... Listen to the Evans representative telling you to throw away your heads. - - another trick for old heads is to take a 14' head (for a 14' sn-drum) and put it upside down on top of the snare drum. Now you have a completely different sound out of your drum!
Ofcourse - this is not for rim-shots - the edge of the old head is lying loosely on the top rim...
Anyway - I just thought about that when the head-dude said throw away your heads =) Great video by the way
@boilingpoint3 Heeeyyy, there you go! I've had my Ambassador snare head since before Christmas, and it's all beat up, but I get a badass tone out of it. I like it better than a brand new head. I won't play shows with a new one, I'll put it on another snare and beat the hell out of it until it's "not new".
DON'T put your finger in the middle! Since you apply different pressure all the time, you will just mess up the tuning, as many already have said. Instead, put a piece of Moon Gel or Drum Gum inthe middle. That way, you won't apply different pressure and you will have an easier time tuning your drums. :)
Hey guys, Im into low pitch toms with low overtones. Ive been trying every approach to try to get what I want. Any clue on how I can make it happen. I have an 08, 10, 12, 14, 15.
I used to change my tom heads almost every 1 or 2 months... But since I changed to Evans Coated G2's I have had the same ones for over 8 months, still with that AMAZING, deep warm tone on my 13, 16 and 18 toms.
what head is better for deeper sounds on toms? Evans or Remo? I am just getting into heads and tom tuning so i'm a bit new to this (not snare tuning though)
for the snare, i personally think evans is better. it gives u a sharper sound like you wouldn't believe it.. for the toms, u can really go with evans or remo, it less matters...
@UKrocketeer He's not really damaging the drum head, when you tune a head you hit it with a stick to see if it's in tune; so hitting it with a drum key wouldn't have an effect of messing up the head. I'd rather take advice from someone who works for Evans and talks at Clinics about tuning heads then someone who is on youtube and has videos of double bass and blast beats..
@Brinemusic Well if you dont believe me, dave weckl said in one of his videos and explained very thoroughly not to use your drum key, so yeah look it up. And as for the double bass and blast beats what the fuck is that supposed to mean?just because he is paid to say " Use Evans products" doesnt make him any better than you or me. And a wood or nylon drum stick has less damage to the head because guess what its made for drums, drum keys weigh a lot and are pointy metal objects.
@Brinemusic And to be honest, Metal, especially Death metal. Takes a LOT of time, talent, practice, and commitment. Definitely a lot more than electronic, not that I dont like electronic. Just saying Metal musicians are much more credible musicians i dont mean like grindcore or shit like that i mean like technical, progressive, and instrumental death metal. Those guys are fucking crazy good and have insane amounts of talent. Talent is very hard to find nowadays.
@UKrocketeer Talent is hard to find anywhere in any genre, not just eletrocnica. I think the hardest to master is jazz, because it goes so in depth phrasing, dynamics, 4 way independence, etc. Also, it's hard to find not just talent but even someone why understands what they do in that genre. Eletronica music isn't what I'm limited too, producing is the hardest thing I've come across since drumming, you have to become every instrument. I'm also a drummer myself...
@Brinemusic Jazz for sure, you've got so much going on its crazy. Electronica is sick but i know what you mean by being every instrument its just you dont have to actually play it so that aspect is covered just the actual music part is what you have to worry about. figuring out fucking logic and fruityloops and all those programs is a bitch but once you know how you can do anything
@UKrocketeer For sure, I think what makes it great when you know the technical sick of it, and what it really takes to produce and get the sound; also knowing what your doing is a different. The hardest part is getting samples to sound like someone is really playing.
in another video BOB GATZEN use a specific note to tune the BOTTOM HEAD. i'm wonder why you need a specific note. the important i think is that in each point the sound is the same right ?
@RutboyNiles Well, if your intentionally drumming with a high quality vintage drum - You probably know how to maintain it pretty well. And if you are just drumming with old drums because thats just what you have, and you can't figure out that your lugs have differing torques - You should pay more attention during tuning but even more important, pay money for a new fucking drum.
@vladutzzss Lol
dietwaterVevo 4 days ago
he said FINGER TIGHT!
needle11 4 weeks ago
Butt side
maxtotheham 1 month ago
i just got a new kit but it came with evans heads :(
i wished it was remo
wdsa8d 1 month ago
"Get rid of old heads immediately" Sales manipulation language.
grooovy7 1 month ago 4
@grooovy7 Duct-tape is a Drummers best-friend, forget the dog! You should see the drum kit I use in our band room. It really needs a new snare skin!
cwilbr 3 weeks ago
does anyone else hear that overtone at the very end? is that normal?
mtbrobotanist 1 month ago
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my name's neal and i just started to do drum (covers) videos, if any of you can please just check out my first drum cover it would be really appreciated, i'm just trying to get views and subscriptions. anyone, please?
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nealbrizzy 1 month ago
@1:35 everytime I listen I swear what you say is lower is actually higher. Is my hearing wrong?
moonpeeple 1 month ago
I have to be brutally honest I am never quite as happy with Evans as I am with Remo when it comes to the snare.
jordanjcm 2 months ago 7
Thanks man! My remo head sounds amazing now! ;D
1212yamum1212 3 months ago 4
hehe he said nice crack
SparklyMewy204 4 months ago 2
@ evens percussion, please re-post this clip at a higher res. At least 480p. This will allow the viewer to hear a more realistic sound and will make these clips more professional. Thanks in advance.
havic83 5 months ago
what the hell...sound like my dust bin
Nugtroen 5 months ago
i used this video to tune my brand new remo :) thanks evans
bigspoon7 5 months ago 6
He said put your head on the drum?? why wasnt his head on the drum?
xXRASHEEDXx 5 months ago
I love how he said "old" heads, but doesn't give a definition of what an old head is. 1 day? 1 week? 1 year? I'm still going to use Remo's.
ShittyMcPoopyBalls 6 months ago
@ShittyMcPoopyBalls yo beeyatch. I agree Remo is the way to go.
XxStrongDrums1996xX 5 months ago
@XxStrongDrums1996xX dammit
ShittyMcPoopyBalls 5 months ago
Plenty of ways to skin a cat. Taping with a key is one and it works fine. the biggest problem with this tuning is the die-cast hoop. This narrows the tunable range, and he has clearly attempted to tune outside of that range.
Also notable, does anyone else find it interesting that a company that sells new drum heads sends a shill to youtube to tell us how important it is to throw our old heads away as soon as possible? It's almost as if they have a motivation for us to buy brand new heads.
Maxwerm 6 months ago
240p, we meet again!
vladutzzss 6 months ago 39
That's a brand new head, and he's using the key to find the pitch...HELLO...MCFLY....
MrGreenjeep97 7 months ago 19
scmorris fuck you!
canielpogi7 7 months ago
I can make a 85€ snare with dog skin as a heads sond better than that one, and I'm not God.
nuevopuntocom 7 months ago
heh 3:24 "butt side"
bairhsnyva 8 months ago
Do you have to wear saftey glasses while tunning
joedo24 8 months ago 2
he works in a clockwise fashion...
benjaminja77 8 months ago
I love Bob Gatzen and his presentation, but this guy makes the concept so much simpler!
DarknessDrawsCloser 9 months ago
guys, you will learn that your tone is completely how YOU like it. it varies with the person. So dont judge these videos by the comments, cause how high or low you want it is your choice, noone likes the same.
PUR3GamingxHD 9 months ago
How do you tune out that Tin Can ringing that snares get. My snare sounds great but it sounds like a tin can after the hit .. And it makes gigs sound bad when i mic them.
ziggy338 9 months ago
@ziggy338 e-rings or duct tape. duct tape is one of the miracle of this world, it can really help with dampening natural reverb which drums can create, it almost acts like the pillow that we keep in our kick drums to dampen the echo and to create a more punchy sound. Give it a try. Chris
crazydrummer111204 8 months ago
This snare shoud sound fine. But the problem is the recording they did of the audio is not good.
TheDice2008 10 months ago
@nlb sorry about spelling the name wrong Btw. Don't have my contacts on and I thought it was an i :P Haha my bad :)
nickmartinez27 10 months ago
@nibjones dude... chill. This is a horrible representation I agree. All in the tuning and the brain. About finding that medium between sound and feel, knowing the shells and heads alike. But don't be trashing other people and other things, spend the time drumming instead bro
nickmartinez27 10 months ago
i used the AQUARIAN hi-velocity black snare head..it sounds ridiculous
amanyttap 11 months ago
go REMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
enriquez1987 11 months ago
pop, ping, pong, pluhh.. "sounds good...." ..... " DONT SAVE those DAMN HEADS, even if you dont have alot of money and break one, or an accident happens at a show, when shops are closed, NO, you just say fucking throw those old heads away RIGHT NOW!
markeesdeath 11 months ago
@nlbjones And your reply is any better because? You need to grow up my friend.
lukeykookey 1 year ago
*IMPORTANT* Centering your snare wires while the throwoff is in the 'off' position as this gentleman is doing is a BAD IDEA. (sorry for shouting). The reason for this is because once you tighten back the strings (or straps) and switch the throwoff back to the 'on' position, it'll pull the wires off center. The proper way may take a few tries, but what I do is pull the wires a few millimeters towards the butt end, THEN tighten the strings and switch the throwoff 'on'; pulling them on center.
penski77 1 year ago
@nlbjones What a stupidly offensive and racist comment.
lukeykookey 1 year ago
snares are a bit tight towards the end. but whatever. it's a youtube video
crumdrum1 1 year ago
lol why are these people calling everyone a "noob" , or a "newb". it's so dumb.
dcboy98 1 year ago
"It really don't do you any favors at all". Apparently a third grade education is all that is required to work at Evans.
XDrummerSteve 1 year ago
@XDrummerSteve
He was talking about old heads, so I suppose he said "They don't do you favours".
jipke 1 year ago
im pretty sure he can do whatever the hell he would like he works for evans haha how much money do you make? he wants to tune with the key im sure he knows alot more than you.
ahulx 1 year ago
@ahulx yeah, i can't believe that comment got so many thumbs :D
rtarbinar 1 year ago
why can't americans say Tune properly damnit. "toon". Lazy english.
Aside from that, this guy doesn't actually tune anything does he.
Gooon55 1 year ago
Don't like this vid! First of all I keep my old heads and use them as well depending on the drum I'm using and the session work I'm doing. I might want an old dirty sound so I'll use old head. Second use a stick and not the key since that is what you will be using to play the snare and Third that snare sounds like shit!!!
GUpNu 1 year ago
this guy knows nothing. watch bob gatzens snare drum tuning video he is much more distinct with his explanation and he actually tunes the drum right.
nicdrmsforlfe 1 year ago
that snare sounds choked
drummer4life54 1 year ago
Why did they get an idiot to represent such a good company like Evans, don't keep your old heads? I love the sound of old heads they give it such a distinct sound, plus at 30 bucks a new head im bascially forced have to keep my old heads!
LedZepfan122 1 year ago
@LedZepfan122 why do you think the guy who WORKS FOR EVANS is telling you to constantly replace heads?? :)
asmonica 1 year ago
@LedZepfan122 why do you think the guy who WORKS FOR EVANS is telling you to constantly replace heads?? :)
asmonica 1 year ago
@LedZepfan122 Because he WORKS FOR EVANS! they want you to buy heads more often
asmonica 1 year ago
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This is why I like Remo heads more. :D
XXXXXEmoXGothX92 1 year ago
This is why I like Remo heads more.
XXXXXEmoXGothX92 1 year ago
Caution. Anybody watching this because its your first time tuning your drum. DO NOT hit the head with a drum key!
ianbhtube 1 year ago
Yeah get rid of your back up heads so once you break one, you have to buy more of our heads.
llPurpleHazell 1 year ago
No you keep your old skins, as back up. And DO NOT replace your bottom snare skin that often, If you think that the snare are rough on the skin, spin the skin so the snares are touching somewhere else, DO NOT listen to this jackass, the video was basically a sales pitch to buy more Evans skins. BTW Remo is far better!
drummeracealex 1 year ago
He should have never started with full turns when tightening that batter head.It should be a maximum of a half turn.
namniekib 1 year ago
the thinh that I find frustrating about these vids is that they always demonstrate going around the drum to get the skin tension even. There are dozens of vids that show you how to do this - maybe hundreds.
BUT... the thing they almost never explain is... what is the relationship between the top and bottom head? Same pitch? top tighter? Bottom tighter? If so, how tight? A third? a fifth?
Why don't they ever explain this part? They only give you half the story...
SAHBfan 1 year ago 3
@SAHBfan watch bob gatzen's videos. he answers all that stuff. he's the go to for this kinda stuff
GetMeSomeDrumStix 1 year ago
@SAHBfan,I normally tune my reso head a minor third higher than the batter.
namniekib 1 year ago
@SAHBfan top is generally higher, look at bob gatzens snare tuning video
Adamski986 1 year ago
everyone's looking for that crack........ rock
WillEyeAmz 1 year ago
yaaaa this guy talked about replacing heads rather than tuning
Bubbmann 1 year ago
omg...
rikardbeijer 1 year ago
What's with the bashing? Useful video.
n0b0d1r 1 year ago
Get rid of your heads - Hmmm... Listen to the Evans representative telling you to throw away your heads. - - another trick for old heads is to take a 14' head (for a 14' sn-drum) and put it upside down on top of the snare drum. Now you have a completely different sound out of your drum!
Ofcourse - this is not for rim-shots - the edge of the old head is lying loosely on the top rim...
Anyway - I just thought about that when the head-dude said throw away your heads =) Great video by the way
MadAcousticDrumShow 1 year ago
"throw them out" that way when you break the new one, you have no backup :)
Sc0ttPrian 1 year ago 2
thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you
OtterShedd 1 year ago
Just get SWAT - Snare Wire Arrestor & Tuner Drum Muffler Dampener at eBay makes your snare a power snare and sound great!
Lazetar 1 year ago
That snare sounds like shit. This guy must be a NOOB.
scrmorris 1 year ago 23
@scrmorris thats the recording, jackass. that is a sweet popping snare.
Ricardodelamuerte 1 year ago
@scrmorris the snare sounds just fine; could use a little damping to keep down the ringing, but otherwise, it's well-tuned.
rtarbinar 1 year ago
@scrmorris It's a Pearl...what can you espect? LOL!
Kingondahill 10 months ago
@scrmorris it sounds bad because its a pearl............
heuaiehiaeuheuheaiehaueiauhe i am so funny HOLY SHIT!
datommaster 6 months ago
@scrmorris you must be a noob for looking up this video
TheAfterlifesk8team 6 months ago
is it true that if u tune them really tightly, the snare will sound more tight? like the snare in avenged sevenfold?
tttmmmnnnttt 1 year ago
@tttmmmnnnttt that really depends on the snare and drum head u are using.
googin55 1 year ago
@googin55
im using a wooden snare, will that work?
tttmmmnnnttt 1 year ago
@tttmmmnnnttt Well, I think the Rev used... :( used... anyway, i think he got his sound from a piccolo snare.
googin55 1 year ago
yes, because we all have a spare $150 to buy heads every month...
olix9595 1 year ago 2
I have a brand new DW Collectors and i still can't tune it, sounds like a ringy £50 snare
boredomtube 1 year ago
not bad idea is knocking with key on rim,like tabla tuning sistem.
pektus5 1 year ago
but what if your snare sucks?
TheSchoolsux345 1 year ago
What if you want a round and warm tone?
Than old heads come in handy.
boilingpoint3 1 year ago
@boilingpoint3 Heeeyyy, there you go! I've had my Ambassador snare head since before Christmas, and it's all beat up, but I get a badass tone out of it. I like it better than a brand new head. I won't play shows with a new one, I'll put it on another snare and beat the hell out of it until it's "not new".
Saviorofthefallen 1 year ago
What if you want a round and warm tone?
Than old heads come in handy.
boilingpoint3 1 year ago
DON'T put your finger in the middle! Since you apply different pressure all the time, you will just mess up the tuning, as many already have said. Instead, put a piece of Moon Gel or Drum Gum inthe middle. That way, you won't apply different pressure and you will have an easier time tuning your drums. :)
marphi2 1 year ago
@marphi2
dude, Your fucking awesome! I would have never though of that and that idea is brilliant!
SuspectAce 1 year ago
Hey guys, Im into low pitch toms with low overtones. Ive been trying every approach to try to get what I want. Any clue on how I can make it happen. I have an 08, 10, 12, 14, 15.
giotheguitarist 1 year ago
I used to change my tom heads almost every 1 or 2 months... But since I changed to Evans Coated G2's I have had the same ones for over 8 months, still with that AMAZING, deep warm tone on my 13, 16 and 18 toms.
DrummerGS 1 year ago
what head is better for deeper sounds on toms? Evans or Remo? I am just getting into heads and tom tuning so i'm a bit new to this (not snare tuning though)
Metal66671 1 year ago
@Metal66671
for the snare, i personally think evans is better. it gives u a sharper sound like you wouldn't believe it.. for the toms, u can really go with evans or remo, it less matters...
sharon879 1 year ago
this is little bit higher...not lower...hmm....stupid video...for pure stupid%)
promilovic 1 year ago
lol Josh, you shill.
inactivism 2 years ago
he should not be using his drum key to find the pitch!
UKrocketeer 2 years ago 40
@UKrocketeer That's actually how you tell if you drum is in tune...
Brinemusic 11 months ago
@Brinemusic but by using the drum key he is damaging the new head he just put on the snare...
UKrocketeer 11 months ago
@UKrocketeer He's not really damaging the drum head, when you tune a head you hit it with a stick to see if it's in tune; so hitting it with a drum key wouldn't have an effect of messing up the head. I'd rather take advice from someone who works for Evans and talks at Clinics about tuning heads then someone who is on youtube and has videos of double bass and blast beats..
Brinemusic 11 months ago
@Brinemusic Well if you dont believe me, dave weckl said in one of his videos and explained very thoroughly not to use your drum key, so yeah look it up. And as for the double bass and blast beats what the fuck is that supposed to mean?just because he is paid to say " Use Evans products" doesnt make him any better than you or me. And a wood or nylon drum stick has less damage to the head because guess what its made for drums, drum keys weigh a lot and are pointy metal objects.
UKrocketeer 11 months ago
@Brinemusic And to be honest, Metal, especially Death metal. Takes a LOT of time, talent, practice, and commitment. Definitely a lot more than electronic, not that I dont like electronic. Just saying Metal musicians are much more credible musicians i dont mean like grindcore or shit like that i mean like technical, progressive, and instrumental death metal. Those guys are fucking crazy good and have insane amounts of talent. Talent is very hard to find nowadays.
UKrocketeer 11 months ago
@UKrocketeer Talent is hard to find anywhere in any genre, not just eletrocnica. I think the hardest to master is jazz, because it goes so in depth phrasing, dynamics, 4 way independence, etc. Also, it's hard to find not just talent but even someone why understands what they do in that genre. Eletronica music isn't what I'm limited too, producing is the hardest thing I've come across since drumming, you have to become every instrument. I'm also a drummer myself...
Brinemusic 11 months ago
@Brinemusic Jazz for sure, you've got so much going on its crazy. Electronica is sick but i know what you mean by being every instrument its just you dont have to actually play it so that aspect is covered just the actual music part is what you have to worry about. figuring out fucking logic and fruityloops and all those programs is a bitch but once you know how you can do anything
UKrocketeer 11 months ago
@UKrocketeer For sure, I think what makes it great when you know the technical sick of it, and what it really takes to produce and get the sound; also knowing what your doing is a different. The hardest part is getting samples to sound like someone is really playing.
Brinemusic 11 months ago
sounds like st. anger drums. No.
aurlis2012 2 years ago
ha. I have a snare that I used an old batter head on and it sounds better than that one.
flashvideomasta 2 years ago
my snare buzzes when i hit anywhere except the center of the head,
what do i do?
TheFusedShadow 2 years ago
@TheFusedShadow all snares do that, because when you hit outside of the center you get a ring,
UKrocketeer 2 years ago
Yeah but mines really bad, nobody else i know has a snare that sounds nearly as bad as mine. I might post a video comment of it later
TheFusedShadow 2 years ago
check the tuning, that can do it, and check the tuning of both heads
UKrocketeer 2 years ago
in another video BOB GATZEN use a specific note to tune the BOTTOM HEAD. i'm wonder why you need a specific note. the important i think is that in each point the sound is the same right ?
giosmrbig 2 years ago
2:49 - 2:53 fail
drumtilludrop610 2 years ago
can you suggest a better one?
soulander13 2 years ago
the "fingertight"-technique he uses works only on drums, where all lugs have the same torque.
I wouldn't recommend doing it on older drums.
Apart from that great video.
RutboyNiles 2 years ago
@RutboyNiles Well, if your intentionally drumming with a high quality vintage drum - You probably know how to maintain it pretty well. And if you are just drumming with old drums because thats just what you have, and you can't figure out that your lugs have differing torques - You should pay more attention during tuning but even more important, pay money for a new fucking drum.
Drratburn 2 years ago
blah.
RutboyNiles 2 years ago
this is the very fast method..not recommend to any..
northwish 2 years ago
nice...i hope this help me
VengeanceDUDE 2 years ago 2