2009 - Starting self-sufficient communities in self-honesty

[TheOwlMage]

Have a look at the GEN ecovillage website through google, my friend.

There allready is a big network of Ecovillages. G.E.N. is one of the biggest there is, for as far as I saw. These people are actually doing what you're trying to propaganda :)

Have a nice read, also look up 'Self sufficiency' and 'ecovillage communities' on youtube.

Peace.

[SpamAnn]

@TheOwlMage : true, these are cool but to change this and open this for all people in this world, our current system has to be stopped. Because else it will continue and only the lucky few will be able to live in such villages, while many others are totally deprived and even starve and suffer from wars. Because the system keeps brainwashing over and over again daily. Unless that core is stopped, it wont.

[TheOwlMage]

@SpamAnn True. But there's also a major group which doesn't care about this, doesn't want to participate in something like this, or wallow in their wellfare and modern technology as well as simply it 'not being their style'.

What you see as 'brainwashed', they see as a good life. Some choose to be consumers instead of participants. Also respect those, my friend. Nobody is the same. Some really don't care about nature, just comfort. That's the beauty of the existing villages: Choice.

[SpamAnn]

@TheOwlMage : they are the minority, in this world of suffering. Without nature we are fucked, not caring about it is showing our level of disconection from life. On a structural level, nothing should be allowed that harms nature and is not necessary. Governments should simply not allow those things, but currently they are allowed because profit is on nr 1.

[TheOwlMage]

@SpamAnn Sadly, they are the majority. People want a better world, but they should not hand in their luxoury. That's the naive nature of mankind. Those who wish to better are still the minority. And I've been nice so far. What I was saying, was 'Work together with the others instead of trying to reinvent the wheel'. Cause that's what you are doing.

[skeight976]

Transition Towns are breaking away from oil.

Atlas City and The Venus Projects are break aways from The Zeitgeist Movement

spread the word

[0RobinHood1]

But not with "grown ups" :l Please.I'm soooo fed up with them.We need to start with little kids (age 3-4) that have not been touched by "culture" through unskilled programmers.Where can we find some? Orphaneges FTW.

Also, the original seeds are required.The ones with the old design,that have been out there for centuries.Not the actual engineered / genetically mutated.I've been searching for them for a long time now and I suggest you do the same.

[SpamAnn]

@0RobinHood1 : the gentically mutated? what do you mean?

[0RobinHood1]

@SpamAnn I'm referring to genetically modified plants.

[SpamAnn]

@0RobinHood1 : here in Belgium they say almost nothing is GMO. But what do I know

[0RobinHood1]

And I know the perfect place where this can be done.A location covered by secular forests and shielded by mountains.The only problem is that I don't have the money to buy 35% of my country.Not yet.

[HotHeadCJ]

yow mygirl you sweet nuh hell, ka stop think bout you!!!

[hobabobba]

i like your viking like hair..

[SpamAnn]

@hobabobba : its gone! LOL :P

[hobabobba]

@SpamAnn i couldn't even concentrate about what your saying (please don't take offense in this..) but your post Braids combined with your deep soapy eyes transmit such an encouraging feeling. hard to imagine how it was to cut and shave it off( not the eyes *shivers*) for teh 'equality' your such a thing. but i wonder was your hair such a menace to society?

[AyurvedaIreland]

Hi Ann, there are some fantastic rescources (HOW TO) books by bill mollison, based on exactly what you are talking about, its called PERMACULTURE, it seems like a real sustainable system, based on small self sufficient communities.

[AyurvedaIreland]

Hi Ann, there are some fantastic rescources (HOW TO) books by bill mollison, based on exactly what you are talking about, its called PERMACULTURE, it seems like a real sustainable system, based on small self sufficient communities.

[AyurvedaIreland]

Hi Ann, very good thanks also for your video on religeous crazyness..

[Camyum]

I've had the same idea for a long time too. It's time to turn thoughts into reality.

[Changeling9au]

Check out my Permablitz video, and visit the links in the sidebar.

It's an example of what you're talking about!

I'm still thinking about a way to get lots of different self-sufficiency projects (be they for food, clothing, tech stuff etc.) to self-organise and "Self Unite" so that egos can't destroy them, and so they'll be strong enough to emerge and replace the Luciferian Experiment (The System) when it collapses, or at least comes into balance.

I'll check out your forum soon.

[SpamAnn]

cool I will!

[vincent4500]

the luciferian system' as you put it is the government of the antichrist as predicted in the bible....when it 'comes into balance' 90% of the population will be annihilated in the worst horrors in history...

[Changeling9au]

@vincent4500

Wallow in nightmares, if that's what turns you on.

[Uqigo]

Hey!! I sent i think it was two video responses to this video, and they're waiting to be approved by you. But, I just wanted to say I support self sufficient communities and you should definately take the time to view each of the videos...

Much love

[shinalscoblaze]

Ive been putting extensive research into self sufficiency ,alternate power, farming techniques,how to obtain the money thru the same people that are going to live their thru not simply charity out of their pockets buying actuall legal shares under a non profit business entity there for not only giving those said investors a voice in the entire community and citizenship to a said community but also a legal document share of where their money went!This is a very basic descrption but I sure canhelp

[SpamAnn]

Hey, then you should visit the forums desteni money (link on my page). You can elaborate on it there.

[latinonyc7]

god doesn't exist, gods they do exists , our creators ..the system that they created for us

[cojobo34]

I have also thought about this, and it is a great idea. I would join your communitiy in a second! :>)

[id4ty]

very nice concepts

[1GOD1JESUS]

sounds like a great idea, we can start one in my back yard, i also grow potatoes, strawberries, corn, paw-paw, roses, pumpkin, chokos, passionfruit and more!

[MartijndeGraaf1001]

mooie oproep. Ja als de systemen beginnen uit te vallen... mijn appartement heeft niet eens een schoorsteen!

[jacksoncarreras]

Self sufficient communities can ONLY be possible with trust in community, as the most effective means of "jump-starting" one is total investment (and therefore transformation) of "financial products" like fiat money, fraudulent credit and securities.

[SpamAnn]

they can ONLY work within self-honesty, and common sense for what best for all as one and equal as life

[jacksoncarreras]

Sorry, I didn't finish my thought, I was writing the other message to you simultaneously. I see it was someone else that sent the video also. When it comes to self-honesty, it is a matter of one's concept of self. The very notion of the limited self as defined by the egoic mind "trapped" within physicality is the basis of all self-deception... Both the infinite and limited selves. In other words, lying to oneself (interesting word) and lying to God are both aspects of the same phenomena.

[jacksoncarreras]

excuse me, I emant to say the same PHENOMENON.

[Kuzya3k]

I cannot understand what you are trying to explain in words, can you demonstrate this or give me a practical example?

[jacksoncarreras]

it would help greatly if you could be more specific as to what you don't understand, rather than simply demanding that i explain everything i said 6 days ago. short version- i was talking about who we are, who you are... are you your body, an entity trapped within it, your job? are you whatever you convince yourself and others to be?

[Kuzya3k]

So being trapped in a body means we have to get out of the body, that makes sense!~!!!

[adriandrum]

cool

interesting, i just got this video moments after i suggested this idea to the desteni group in Ottawa...we will discuss

[SpamAnn]

hehe yeah, I went on the forum and saw your topics :D at the same time

[adriandrum]

i was just talking about it in a mass facebook email....im sure this idea has been kicking around with a few people for some time now, so its nice to see you get the ball rolling - im sure theres fear in one at the idea of suggesting this to others, as the fear of others having fearful reactions to one suggesting "hey lets all live together and support each other practically"

such a scary idea...lol

[SpamAnn]

LOl, well, those who can see it working will join anyway :) but it needs good preparation

[infivoice]

Nice Ann we will see how it goes. See you on the forum : )

[FelipeSparx29]

your silly at the end of this video ;P

im growning enough tomato planets for all of my nieghbors, most of em grow thier won but some don't, i think they will remember me just giving them something to eat, plus im growning alot of watermelons so that by the ends of summer i can give them away to strengthen the bond with in this community were i live. plus my hen house (once its done) i'll start dropping off eggs to them, im not a big fan of eggs anyway but i do want to change how things are.

[Tidnull]

yes thats what i am doing, i am growing a hell of a lot of tomatoes, probably not enough to feed my whole street, but i will try to give as much away as possible, in order to form community. even in just starting my garden i have made friends with people i would have never talked to. but there is so much in store for starting new communities, new systems. the time is now.

[FractalInfinities]

I love your idea Spam, and yours too bud^^

[themightyboooooooooo]

Well put.

[GianRobberts01]

it takes time and patience and commitment.

[SpamAnn]

it sure does

[vashadaiisha]

yes, i've been having that idea as well, like for some 20 years! cool, let's do it then.