None of you know what this guy thought or wanted. In my opinion, it is the pro death penalty "state of mind" that creates these situations. Your statement changes from ".. wrong.. stupid.. tragedy" to "it is in a since wrong" People radically change there behavior when they lose a relative, start taking drugs, get off of drugs...... only a very few start killing. although stories like this one get allot of attention, that many people are murdered every few minutes in this country.
In Finland? No, but in truth we do kill a lot of people in America, the reasons vary from everything to love to hate. This kid had a breakup before he snapped and decided this was his ace in the whole his end all be all statement. People who kill do it for a reason, each reason has a cause behind it for that person.
Justice? Responsibility? what crap! The majority of the world's population runs on political pragmatism, tribalism and patronage. Objectivity and empiricalism doesn't even enter the picture. It's like a bunch of monkeys scratching and picking insects off each others backside. How far have most of us evolved really?
No the majority don't really give shit because their not neurotic enough to care as long as they are happy or the system they find themselves in does not disturb them. The majority might also just be supportive of that supposed rabbit hole you claim.
No shit, he was a social darwinist that believed in the duty to kill the inferior. But still he wanted destruction so he finally resolved himself and went for it.
Ur making to big of a deal on the social Darwinist belief.. He did it because he new about NWO and didnt want to deal with that shit and felt that society would not change...
He thought he was better then everyone, spit out some spoon fed political crap and started shooting, end of Story. NWO doesn't even come into play with this shit. What the fuck, is this a retard contest?
No, thats not true at all. The free will that we have is based on several factors how you were raised and what you learn. Free will is your ability to execute operations that you see fit. Whether he was raised right or not has nothing to do with it, it may have helped but it is a moot and now irrelevant point. Claiming lack of responsibility to subside your guilt or misplace it from others is retarded.
Statement: "One is responsible for his acts" isn't productive nor rational. Reason why he did it is hidden A) in his genes B) in his experiences C) both. There is no other option.
You obviously don't get, it so I put it simply. If you don't believe in some kind of magical "free will power" which is placed in laws of universe to provide our supernatural freedom, then human brain is only machine of cause and effect (and maybe some amout of randomness). It's that simple. (sorry for my english)
No, that randomness is our choice, we have that random control. It's what puts responsibility of your choices on you. You have to change because of your unfortunate choices that make someone or thing else want you to change be it yourself or others. Fucking shit it's like I'm arguing with a self proclaimed robotic drone of misery induced circumstance that can't own up on their own decisions and are projecting it.
He was surrounded by the wrong people and had nothing to believe in like many kids have today.
dontbesure 4 years ago
None of you know what this guy thought or wanted. In my opinion, it is the pro death penalty "state of mind" that creates these situations. Your statement changes from ".. wrong.. stupid.. tragedy" to "it is in a since wrong" People radically change there behavior when they lose a relative, start taking drugs, get off of drugs...... only a very few start killing. although stories like this one get allot of attention, that many people are murdered every few minutes in this country.
horrorofyid 4 years ago
In Finland? No, but in truth we do kill a lot of people in America, the reasons vary from everything to love to hate. This kid had a breakup before he snapped and decided this was his ace in the whole his end all be all statement. People who kill do it for a reason, each reason has a cause behind it for that person.
TheGreatRedDeath 4 years ago
Very true.
bandit2888 4 years ago
Justice? Responsibility? what crap! The majority of the world's population runs on political pragmatism, tribalism and patronage. Objectivity and empiricalism doesn't even enter the picture. It's like a bunch of monkeys scratching and picking insects off each others backside. How far have most of us evolved really?
joesub007 4 years ago
The majority also don't break down and start killing people en mass
TheGreatRedDeath 4 years ago
Because they don't really understand how deep the rabbit hole goes...
bandit2888 4 years ago
No the majority don't really give shit because their not neurotic enough to care as long as they are happy or the system they find themselves in does not disturb them. The majority might also just be supportive of that supposed rabbit hole you claim.
TheGreatRedDeath 4 years ago
He did this to make a political statement you dumb fucks.
bandit2888 4 years ago
No shit, he was a social darwinist that believed in the duty to kill the inferior. But still he wanted destruction so he finally resolved himself and went for it.
TheGreatRedDeath 4 years ago
Ur making to big of a deal on the social Darwinist belief.. He did it because he new about NWO and didnt want to deal with that shit and felt that society would not change...
bandit2888 4 years ago
He did it because he was frustrated, emotional and bullied loser. His "political beliefs" are only minor flavour of whole incident.
madeye0 4 years ago
Bullshit Finnish people are mostly quite isolated people...
" Like
some other wise people have said in the past, human race is not worth
fighting for or saving. When the gangsters of the
corrupted governments have been shot in the streets... When the rule of
idioracy and the democratic system has been replaced with justice... When
intelligent people are finally free and rule the society instead of the
idiocratic rule of majority... In that great day of deliverance, you will
know what I want."
bandit2888 4 years ago
He thought he was better then everyone, spit out some spoon fed political crap and started shooting, end of Story. NWO doesn't even come into play with this shit. What the fuck, is this a retard contest?
TheGreatRedDeath 4 years ago
Woot! Special olympics!!! DERRRRRR!
Ghaztoir 4 years ago
We can held anyone responsible except the fucker. Concept of free will is irrational.
madeye0 4 years ago
No, thats not true at all. The free will that we have is based on several factors how you were raised and what you learn. Free will is your ability to execute operations that you see fit. Whether he was raised right or not has nothing to do with it, it may have helped but it is a moot and now irrelevant point. Claiming lack of responsibility to subside your guilt or misplace it from others is retarded.
TheGreatRedDeath 4 years ago
Statement: "One is responsible for his acts" isn't productive nor rational. Reason why he did it is hidden A) in his genes B) in his experiences C) both. There is no other option.
madeye0 4 years ago
It's his responsibility because you do have an element of choice. It's basic Freudian Psychology concepts of self awareness.
TheGreatRedDeath 4 years ago
You obviously don't get, it so I put it simply. If you don't believe in some kind of magical "free will power" which is placed in laws of universe to provide our supernatural freedom, then human brain is only machine of cause and effect (and maybe some amout of randomness). It's that simple. (sorry for my english)
madeye0 4 years ago
No, that randomness is our choice, we have that random control. It's what puts responsibility of your choices on you. You have to change because of your unfortunate choices that make someone or thing else want you to change be it yourself or others. Fucking shit it's like I'm arguing with a self proclaimed robotic drone of misery induced circumstance that can't own up on their own decisions and are projecting it.
TheGreatRedDeath 4 years ago