Free market cultists have this bizarre idea that people can just live on air and promises forever. In their world only corporate entities have validity, and ordinary people are the expendable commodity of first resort. Slaves are worth more alive than dead, so we must be cattle now. At least under feudalism people knew who their "leaders" were. We wait for faceless ogliarchs to decide who among us lives and dies.
@truthhasnoagenda2012 Fabian Socialists?? Haha. You may want to watch the film again, my friend. It has nothing to do with Fabian Socialism. But thank you for the most creative response to the film yet.
@Duongy94 I'm sorry you have such a limited imagination and knowledge of human history. If not capitalism, then one of many other forms of human association. I prefer anarchism, but various forms of socialism (not state socialism) would give people greater dignity and offer more respect for the earth. Capitalism is NOT freedom. It is quite literally killing everything (watch the film!). I encourage you to study the alternatives.
To truly change the system fhe ordinary common person must unite , infiltrate the political process and incite change from within . Protest works , but its limited . We must take back politics from the elites who have become entrenched within it ! Change from within , a true fifth column .
@johnmcnab Capitalism IS the crisis, and true change can only come through the overthrow of all elites, and direct control by workers' over the workplace and economy.
Yes, protest works... I say, an occupation is even better. "Occupy" should extend to the workplace too, what do you think?
what happens when the protests are no long peaceful at the g20, when they understand that the fences keep the protester out also keep them in and with an easy form of escape, and how many protester are the security willing to kill,and how far out of control could this get
Since when bailing out banks is socialism? Socialism is where the wealth is being distributed to mass of people's NEED! People's voice has a place in the market, and its the people, that's controlling the means of production, not the few. Bailing out banks and big business aren't helping the people!
Oh, and i'm from Greece, where we have had socialist democrats in power for forty years, briefly interrupted in 90' to 93' and 04' to 09'. In my world, the union people set themselves and families and friends in the better jobs. And the co-ops scam me from my olive oil for a 1.5 euro per lt, which probably end up in ramsay's kitchen, cause cretan olive oil is one of the best. My point is, that in any system, you can never get complacent. Always be vigilante, until the monetary system has ended.
Good doc, but "moving forward" hits the nail on the head.....and for anyone too impatient to see either, search "rsa animate the crisis of capitalism" (speech by David Harvey)
I went out last night and a homeless pregnant woman came asking for change it broke my heart and now I say people,I mean all human beings in the planet must have good quality health care,healthy food,proper accommodation and good quality education!!!
Greg Palast, A journalist exposed the fact that precisely the rioting is what the most powerful elite want. It helps them. Gives the excuse to crack down on legitimate protesters and also with the riot (IMF riot) the economy collapses further and allows the bankers to buy up the economy even cheaper.
I use pinnacle studio10(upgraded) to edit my digital footage and to add subtitles. It is simple and user friendly. Now advanced versions to edit MPEG4 footage are available from avid(formerly pinnacle) for a price.
Thank you CapitalismCrisis for the dvd I received yesterday. I will make the copies of the dvd available to as many people as possible.I am at adding subtitles in kannada to the film. I am familiar with Naomi Klein's writings, and prof.Leo Panitch was in mysore for a talk a couple of weeks ago. thank you. vnlnarayana
@vnlnarayana Thank you, professor. May I ask what software you use to add subtitles? Also, I'm looking for software to create a shooting script for the film, to make it easier for people such as yourself to make subtitles in other languages. Can you recommend software for this?
Capitalism in its raw form would rather the masses of laborers be paid pennies just enough to survive so they may continue to toil in filthy and dangerous conditions with little oversight and barely any rest while children must also work as the laborer's wages are taxed and bodies are exploited to the maximum for profit. Just a more modern form of feudalism, except feudalism directly forces people to work with crowns and castles.
Of course, I don't like socialism, fascism, or communism either.
Simple reason why Capitalism does not work and always lead to a crisis:
companies want save money --> companies cut employees wage --> employees can afford less stuff --> companies get less money from sales --> companies cut employees wage or increase good price too keep revenue stable --> employees can afford less stuff --> less money for companies --> etc.....
Our biggest problem is "us". Not the corporations as they only have the power we give them. If you want to stop these problems, stop reproducing the problem that is "us". We have 7 billion people on this planet and even if you cut it down to 1% of that number it would still be too many people. There's nothing to cull the herd when it comes to humans and nothing to stop the relentless drive to lower our standard of living due to over population and our obsolesce.
@toowaker37 Most corporations are registered in Delaware. If pressure could be brought to bear on the Delaware legislature to toughen up laws governing corporations and states bring charges against corporations operating as "foreign corporations in their states we might see some traction. Santa Clara v. Union Pacific dicta in the decision must be challenged, it is not part of the opinion of the court it was put in afterward by a clerk who was a former RR executive.
@bighands69 I disagree with you. Corporations are necessary; they syndicate risk and without that feature, most enterprises and projects could not have been done. Secondly, central banking has been a reality since 1913, before then, when banks alone governed the money supply, there were failures, panics, and depressions. The final straw was the Banker's Panic of 1907 which led the U.S. Government to act. Now, is the FED perfect? No. But it's superior to the previous situation
What I have said is that removing a central credit management system from currency and moving to Commodity money will stop the inflation of the Monetary System.
The problem with fiat money is that the note of representation has no value and due to this it creates uncertain exchange ratio's.
How can you say it is superior when money keeps loosing on its exchange ratio.
@bighands69 Money doesn't "lose" anything; it has no intrisic value. It is medium of exchage that facilitates trade. A Marxist would say that money has been "fetishised", that is it is valued for itself outside it's original purpose. We have to become political and economic realists, all these instituitons within the system are organic, that is they developed through law and custom, eliminating them is highly improbable, they do serve a purpose. We must focus on how these
@bighands69 Compared to what? Again monetary value is what we accept it to be. You answered your own question with: "And the US dollor or euro can lose its value against other currencies" Countries agree, to honor cross value with each other's money so the dollar "loses" value agains the euro but "gains" it against the drachma or whatever as a medium of exchange. Now central banks can choose to expand or contract the money supply as they see to accomodate economic conditions.
@bighands69 "Money at present is not a metric as a metric has to hold it's value..." Well, doesn't that answer your previous statement of: "How can you say it is superior when money keeps loosing on its exchange ratio." So now you with agree with me, that it doesn't have intrisic value except for what it will be accepted for in exchange. At some point, monetary policy becomes ineffective, thats why "Quantitive easing" did not work as planned. It's sort of like trying to feed a horse
@bighands69 Central banking is here to stay, we won't eliminate it any more than we will return to the gold standard or use salt as a means of currency. Markets reflect supply and demand through price signalling, central banks maintain levels of currency in order maintain an orderly market, nothing more.
@bighands69 institutions work and introduce more democracy into the decision making process. But the first thing we must do is change our perception of the system by winning the intellectual arguments and gathering popular support. At this time, only a few influential firms through their proxies monopolize the public square, we have to point out the facts and force them to be accountable for their failures.
Having a gold currency ensures that the central banking system does not create more money for market controlling measure that do not work.
As you have pointed out money is an exchange medium but if the medium keeps changing as does the money supply (based on market perceptions) then it is not a consist medium of exchange.
Engineers for example do not vary there scales so as to match there ideal of trade and economies and business are no different.
@bighands69 And when the economy expands, which would entail an expansion of the money supply or else it stymies growth, which is what you want to avoid. Or this scenario: when gold is valued more than the currency, it's to the advantage of the gold holder to hoard gold rather than exchange it for the lesser valued paper. We saw this during the Civil War when the Government issued greenbacks to fund the war. I can never understand 'gold bugs" and moneterists. In their world view,
@bighands69 Now to think that overnight we will change the major institutions of the economy is lunacy and doomed to failure. Change will have to come from within the present structure using the tools that are available to us. Every law that has been enacted , can be repealed. There are no panaceas, only hard work, struggle, and more work. Change is never easy, nor permanent.
Something tells me 2012 is going to be crunch time for western countries. The world economy is only going to get worse - people are going to get even more angry and we'll see mass protests all over the world.
@urprivacypolicysucks While OWS is a valued operation, it will not be enough. People now have to be politicized and involved in the political process. We have to run slates of candidates to run against office holders who are in thrall to the corporate overlords. There must be financial consequences for the corporations who now are trying to buy influence and power in government.
@DAngelo136 I agree. And mass movements usually do produce a more politicized citizens. Only when things really get bad do people start thinking about things. If only the 'occupy wall street' movement had protested the right people (i.e. Washington), things would be moving along a bit faster.
@urprivacypolicysucks Well not so much "mass movement" but a "critical mass" of people who can organize and garner support for certain aims. Lenninist theory calls this the "revolutionary vanguard". Now we can't be afraid of using strategies and tactics from other social movements, the idea is change, not ideological purity. But first we must come to the realization that we have power and we can use it.
Half of this is pure scaremongering and conspiracism. It is just as fanciful a theory for me to suggest that the titanic was an insurance job as it is to suggest the G20 summits were an excuse to attack liberalism. The fact is the police got involved in them protests because people started smashing people's businesses and livelihoods. It seems ironic that in retaliation to a lack of democracy and violence enacted by the state, people no one voted for go to the streets and act like yobs
@econpilch Right. There were no bank bailouts totalling $29 trillion. We aren't being asked to pay for them. This is not the sixth mass extinction in history. The G20 leaders don't make decisions that affect millions of lives. Everything is fine. Capitalism is great. Go home and watch TV.
What futile resistance against the establishment. The only social force large enough to deal with abuse and corruption on this scale is a universal one: Islam is the solution.
Sure, they've thrown out their dictators, to be replaced with new dictators. It won't get any better if the new government is the islamistic fundies in the Muslim Brotherhood either.
You're saying that you can't overthrow dictators without islam? Study some history.
@maxcommunist Who are you to say that? The last time the majority of Muslims approved of their government, we controlled half of the known world and held the largest most advanced cities yet seen.
Right, and I guess you think that life was a paradise for ordinary people back then? Only Communism, the stateless and classless society can set mankind truly free.
@maxcommunist He is richest who's pleasures are cheapest.
Muslims are not looking to create paradise on earth. We're looking to implement the laws of the Creator in our lives. That means ensuring justice at every level of society.
I believe everyone feels the need to compete to prove themselves and earn self respect. In America we compete with each other for wealth no matter who we have to exploit.
In Islam we compete w/ each other for better moral actions which leads to inner contentment
I was looking for a film like the present one. It is high time we distributed this film reedited with subtitles in regional languages. On my part I would very much like to distribute this film among my people in karnataka, India. Please help me to secure a dvd
Prof.V.N.Laxminarayana, m 1237, 2nd main, vivekanandanagar, mysore-570023, karnataka, India.
@dukee155 may be you are right. But I am not sure whether you are speaking of the same people that I have in my mind. As long as we are compelled to live in a world where fraud and injustice are legalised and commodification of everything including labour and emotion is constitutionalized we are bound to have these differences. In capitalism 'fair is foul and foul is fair'. The present world being penetrated with American dream of global cannibalism testifies to this.
@vnlnarayana I agree that fraud should be illegal. However I'm just wondering how you define fraud. Also can you give an example of how emotion is a commodity?
We are the first generation that has developed the ability to raise the corporate curtain blanketing the blind aging population. We are the first generation can educate ourselves through the use of digital technology and expose the corruption. We are the first generation that is not being taught by the previous but are teaching the previous. We are the first generation that understands what must be done and our leaders are afraid of us. We are this generation and we are the new leaders.
@limitless45 NOPE. Even if you somehow have perfect knowledge of the all the resources and needs of the people, these services and products require thousands of hours of labor.
There is no force more coercive than accumulated capital; it bends men, governments and armies to its will. American Libertarians refuse to acknowledge that fact.
"A monopoly on the means of communication may define a ruling elite more precisely than the celebrated Marxian formula of monopoly in the means of production."
@Shanockdotcom Yeah, wrong again Bob. You have to have a pretty distorted vision of freedom if you think that's where capitalism comes from and you have to have a pretty distorted view of capitalism if you think that it doesn't involve force, or the state.
Capitalism doesn't exist it hasn't existed for over a hundred years. We live in a corporate fascism. There is no free market. What is the reason for all this? FIAT currency.
@4HITMAN7 i'm with you man and it;s not kapitalism to blame it's money and the financial system for ex muslim banking with no intrest is a real thing but can americans ever accept that ? sure not we are lied by the media that muslims are only undeveloped crazy people look at that they have a better banking system ,and by all means at computing power today we can have real time barter no money involved no forex speculation no outsourcing
@io007a Yes, americans and the world could accept that because a gold based money is the enemy to the current fractional-reserve banking. The problem is people do not understand the current monetary system they think that the paper in their pocket is worth something when it is a worthless piece of paper.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws." Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812), founder of the House of Rothschild.
Greetings, i am a member of IASR (Anarcho-Syndicalist Initiative from Romania), we would love to create Romanian subtitles for this documentary, if you guys can provide the transcript, we can do it. Reply this comment or PM me, if you guys are OK with this idea. All the best. Solidarity!
@CapitalismCrisis A dvd would be great for hosting screenings (I'm in Montreal) but it's not necessary for the transcript. If @Menace3434 is serious, or other non-English-speaking activists would benefit from a transcript, I'll go ahead and type one out. I won't take the time unless someone expresses real interest though.
if only the rich built community cafeterias.. if only they built hotels/hostels and subsidized it as homeless shelters.. aren't any of the rich true Christians? please help the poor and store your treasures in heaven.. these words are plain and simple.. read it and weap.
its the ordinary people that are responsible for all that shit, coz they got tricked by the Intelligent wealthy people, they play you easy then you realise and youre all mad? Be mad at yourself.
@LukasX62S thats pretty sad what your saying. so if a buy some thing and get ripped off its my own fauld ( ok partly true) the person sould go freely without any punishment? thats what you saying right? and dont start on the spelling becuse im not english ;)
@LukasX62S im an idiot becuse you justify what the so called wealth intelligent people did and is doing to the working class? lets not fight useless on the internet but learn from each other.
@blooddemon66 You're useless, wealthy do what we let them! They would be stupid if they didnt do what they do. Its not their fault people are FUCKING stupid. Now get away from me.
Its SO easy to live in a capitalist world, and be the winner, of course apart from the damage it does to the atmosphere. People buy shit they dont need, people buy stuff that they cant afford. Save money, dont EVER take loans, DONT EVER GET A HOUSE UNLESS U HAVE THE FULL AMOUNT TO PAY FOR IT, or you are going to pay huge interest. LEARN EVERYthing about capitalism, and you can live with it, be open minded. Death to socialism, killer of ambition.
You people should see what's going on down here in Venezuela. The revolution that you so much want and desire, it's taking place right here in my country: The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela. A revolution that is being led by our Commander Hugo Chavez. We, Bolivarian Venezuelan people hope you, Americans, Canadians and Europeans can make your own revolution just like we did here. Peace and God bless.
@death9719 ever here of volunteerism, anarcho capitalism. you want to get rid of one monopoly, capitalism and replace it with another, collectivism, no monopoly is ever good. i'm fine with communism, or capitalism, or any system as long as its imposed by the choice of the people, and those who don't like it can leave.
@death9719 no, we educate them as to why a hierarchy is undesirable. we also oppose the hierarchy, and all forms of oppression. bottom line: capitalism only exists through the widespread use of coercion, alienation, and oppression.
@thedreamisstilldead corperatism is not capitalism. its a perversion of it. a free market is free of the gov. monopolism and corperatism are evil, competitive capitalism is freedom
@patton890 wrong. capitalism has always been a system of oppression based on the mass exploitation of people and nature. capitalism has always involved the cooperation of states on behalf of the wealthy and powerful. what you are describing has never existed.
Matthew 23:4 "They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them." Luke 11:16 "And he said, “Woe to you '( BANKERS,CORPORATIONS AND GOVERNMENTS! )' For you load people with burdens hard to bear, and you yourselves do not touch the burdens with one of your fingers." Capitals mine.
Matthew 23:4 "They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them." Luke 11:16 "And he said, “Woe to you '( BANKERS AND GOVERNMENTS! )' For you load people with burdens hard to bear, and you yourselves do not touch the burdens with one of your fingers." Capitals mine.
@erasmusso That is correct, and every time they print it they lone it with interests and the money for interests doesn't exist so it can never be repaid. Debt slavery.
@erasmusso man i've seen a documentary and read about that can work BUT it has a little flw that can crumble the system who decides the amount of resources we have and who decides how to use them that;s the problem it's more concentrated power in a few hands ,the less people decide the bigger the mistakes can be , i agree with everything else though
@io007a What documentary did you watch? In the RBE there's a completely new method of decision making: There will be no government or president making decisions based on opinion or emotions of a particular issue. We will ARRIVE to a decision based on factual evidence, scientific research and the carrying capacity of the earth.
Take the human body for example: the brain doesn't dictate how much oxygen will the liver get. Every organ gets as much nutrients as it needs an nobody makes decisions.
@tjohn1986 Ok, why do you think Zeitgeist is fake and gay? Because of the conspiracy crap or because of the pseudo-scientific technocratic Venus Project?
@erasmusso so you support redistributing the wealth until there is none left? you support theft of wealth rightfully earned? you support death to small business (our economic future) rights? You don't support free trade? You support rewarding laziness and decreasing wealth of entire state? You support high taxes on middle class? You support a laziness=benefit society? You support, in short, taking my money forcibly to give to those who don't earn it, or deserve it. Now, justify your beliefs.
@erasmusso then sir, i believe you are not a socialist, but simply put an idiot. How is a free market not free, when you can trade with anyone you want!! And how is 'fair' market 'freedom' when you control who your citizens trade with? You just turned common sense upside down, and what I want you justify is your side of story, how do you feel this benefits the country? Please I'm interested.
@subscribefori "How is a free market not free, when you can trade with anyone you want!!" The ability to trade does not, and should not, define freedom. Capitalism functions by imperialist domination (not freedom) for resources and markets. Capitalism functions by exploitation (not freedom) of workers and nature. Capitalism functions by monopolizing trade, especially in your libertarian fantasy in which the "market" has no restraints.
@subscribefori Also, What part of a $29 trillion bank bailout is freedom? I don't remember anyone voting on it? Seems like the investment class just held a gun to the US government and said, "Give us all your money!"
So, I said I support the Resource-Based Economy, then you assumed that I support the redistribution of wealth, rewarding laziness, high taxes on middle class, etc. By connecting the dots I'd say you have a problem with the "Resource-Based Economy", right? So maybe I should first explain what is this economy I'm talking about. The fastest way to do that is if you watch this movie:
@subscribefori Thank you very much, I wish everybody would be so reasonable. I watched the video, but unfortunately the ratings have been disabled and comments are all held for approval, so I'll have to wait and see what krazyhandz666 makes with my comments.
As for my opinion, needless to say, we'd need a lot more characters per comment than the allowed 500, so why don't you tell me what point should we discuss first?
We all live on tax farms, see your existance as it is. Your taxes go to pay down the interest accumulated on money loans from central banks. 50% of the nations produced wealth each year goes to the IRS for pay for this debt. You are left alone to choose your jobs so that you will be productive, and so they will have more to steal from you.
We got the bail outs, because the banks wanted them.
THIS is what anarchists want. We all know that capitalism cannot support our communities! Let's work together to end the injustices of neo-liberal capital.
I think everyone should be able to have the proper tools and conditions (government-provided, funds to help research) to develop well (health, transportation, water and basic food like vegetables an fruits) without any work. Only to get luxury stuff (cars, phones, trip) and innovate you must have a capitalist model. I don´t think a strict socialist model can have the technology we have developed (where is the motivation coming from?). TL;DR SOCIALISM BASIS + CAPITALIST DEVELOPMENT
Capitalism is a monopoly game, the only difference is that after the winner is decided, the game continues on and on, for ever, and ever. And EVER. AND EVER.
@pf91rodman I agree with what you said to @Mwesada Capitalism isn't the problem. I'm a capitalist, I have my own business and I share this same opportunity with others, so that they may become wealthy.
@pf91rodman "What's causing America's problems is corporatism not capitalism". FUNNY. What's causing corporatism problem is capitalism. You are trying to stomp on the ants and not just taking the root causes which is the rotten candy behind your freezer. Please do your research.
Why is globalization aligned only with the neo-liberal economic agenda? Globalization is also about culture, activism, media, society. Global action can save this planet for humanity.
@88martinoldfield Well then!! Lucky us the rich are relieving us of the burden of all that dreadful money!! But seriously, you should be careful where you locate the issue. The problems that face us aren't caused by greed etc., but by the necessities of the capitalist system. Any capitalist who stops caring about money will soon join the long line of outstretched hands begging for wages from his former, wilier, peers.
Free market cultists have this bizarre idea that people can just live on air and promises forever. In their world only corporate entities have validity, and ordinary people are the expendable commodity of first resort. Slaves are worth more alive than dead, so we must be cattle now. At least under feudalism people knew who their "leaders" were. We wait for faceless ogliarchs to decide who among us lives and dies.
paradama 1 day ago
Fabian Socialists are a cancer in the world and are pure evil. Your ideas are dangerous, old, washed up, and ready for the dustbin of history.
truthhasnoagenda2012 1 day ago
@truthhasnoagenda2012 Fabian Socialists?? Haha. You may want to watch the film again, my friend. It has nothing to do with Fabian Socialism. But thank you for the most creative response to the film yet.
CapitalismCrisis 1 day ago
if not capitalism then what??? extremism??? dictatorship??? totalitarianism????
Duongy94 3 days ago
@Duongy94 I'm sorry you have such a limited imagination and knowledge of human history. If not capitalism, then one of many other forms of human association. I prefer anarchism, but various forms of socialism (not state socialism) would give people greater dignity and offer more respect for the earth. Capitalism is NOT freedom. It is quite literally killing everything (watch the film!). I encourage you to study the alternatives.
CapitalismCrisis 3 days ago
@Duongy94
how about participatory economics including balanced job complexes based around a resourced based economy.
Hexachloraphine 1 day ago
To truly change the system fhe ordinary common person must unite , infiltrate the political process and incite change from within . Protest works , but its limited . We must take back politics from the elites who have become entrenched within it ! Change from within , a true fifth column .
johnmcnab 4 days ago
@johnmcnab Capitalism IS the crisis, and true change can only come through the overthrow of all elites, and direct control by workers' over the workplace and economy.
Yes, protest works... I say, an occupation is even better. "Occupy" should extend to the workplace too, what do you think?
wnxsilence 3 days ago
what happens when the protests are no long peaceful at the g20, when they understand that the fences keep the protester out also keep them in and with an easy form of escape, and how many protester are the security willing to kill,and how far out of control could this get
kheil401 5 days ago
@Filmonaut
Since when bailing out banks is socialism? Socialism is where the wealth is being distributed to mass of people's NEED! People's voice has a place in the market, and its the people, that's controlling the means of production, not the few. Bailing out banks and big business aren't helping the people!
codeagent47 5 days ago
Oh, and i'm from Greece, where we have had socialist democrats in power for forty years, briefly interrupted in 90' to 93' and 04' to 09'. In my world, the union people set themselves and families and friends in the better jobs. And the co-ops scam me from my olive oil for a 1.5 euro per lt, which probably end up in ramsay's kitchen, cause cretan olive oil is one of the best. My point is, that in any system, you can never get complacent. Always be vigilante, until the monetary system has ended.
mikhonda 6 days ago
Good doc, but "moving forward" hits the nail on the head.....and for anyone too impatient to see either, search "rsa animate the crisis of capitalism" (speech by David Harvey)
mikhonda 6 days ago
I went out last night and a homeless pregnant woman came asking for change it broke my heart and now I say people,I mean all human beings in the planet must have good quality health care,healthy food,proper accommodation and good quality education!!!
fudedordebuceta1 1 week ago
Greg Palast, A journalist exposed the fact that precisely the rioting is what the most powerful elite want. It helps them. Gives the excuse to crack down on legitimate protesters and also with the riot (IMF riot) the economy collapses further and allows the bankers to buy up the economy even cheaper.
AStamer 1 week ago
I use pinnacle studio10(upgraded) to edit my digital footage and to add subtitles. It is simple and user friendly. Now advanced versions to edit MPEG4 footage are available from avid(formerly pinnacle) for a price.
I welcome the shooting script . thank you.
vnlnarayana
vnlnarayana 1 week ago
Thank you CapitalismCrisis for the dvd I received yesterday. I will make the copies of the dvd available to as many people as possible.I am at adding subtitles in kannada to the film. I am familiar with Naomi Klein's writings, and prof.Leo Panitch was in mysore for a talk a couple of weeks ago. thank you. vnlnarayana
vnlnarayana 1 week ago
@vnlnarayana Thank you, professor. May I ask what software you use to add subtitles? Also, I'm looking for software to create a shooting script for the film, to make it easier for people such as yourself to make subtitles in other languages. Can you recommend software for this?
CapitalismCrisis 1 week ago
Capitalism in its raw form would rather the masses of laborers be paid pennies just enough to survive so they may continue to toil in filthy and dangerous conditions with little oversight and barely any rest while children must also work as the laborer's wages are taxed and bodies are exploited to the maximum for profit. Just a more modern form of feudalism, except feudalism directly forces people to work with crowns and castles.
Of course, I don't like socialism, fascism, or communism either.
FortitudeOfHeaven 1 week ago
@FortitudeOfHeaven
Anarchism, baby!
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 week ago
Anybody know the song at 40:16 that the guy is blasting from his truck???
tonyfalca 1 week ago
Talk is cheap. Obama should know that best.
tonyfalca 1 week ago
Simple reason why Capitalism does not work and always lead to a crisis:
companies want save money --> companies cut employees wage --> employees can afford less stuff --> companies get less money from sales --> companies cut employees wage or increase good price too keep revenue stable --> employees can afford less stuff --> less money for companies --> etc.....
Weisswurstesser 2 weeks ago
Though I heard Mark Kelly of Connect 30 odd minutes in.
lucettelp 2 weeks ago
Our biggest problem is "us". Not the corporations as they only have the power we give them. If you want to stop these problems, stop reproducing the problem that is "us". We have 7 billion people on this planet and even if you cut it down to 1% of that number it would still be too many people. There's nothing to cull the herd when it comes to humans and nothing to stop the relentless drive to lower our standard of living due to over population and our obsolesce.
toowaker37 2 weeks ago
@toowaker37 Most corporations are registered in Delaware. If pressure could be brought to bear on the Delaware legislature to toughen up laws governing corporations and states bring charges against corporations operating as "foreign corporations in their states we might see some traction. Santa Clara v. Union Pacific dicta in the decision must be challenged, it is not part of the opinion of the court it was put in afterward by a clerk who was a former RR executive.
DAngelo136 2 weeks ago
@DAngelo136
Laws and banning's of corporations is not the solution to corporations.
Corporations are part of the centralized management of credit that is why they seem to have so much financial power.
If people want to cure the problem then the monetary system from a central bank to a decentralized mechanism of money.
bighands69 2 weeks ago
@bighands69 I disagree with you. Corporations are necessary; they syndicate risk and without that feature, most enterprises and projects could not have been done. Secondly, central banking has been a reality since 1913, before then, when banks alone governed the money supply, there were failures, panics, and depressions. The final straw was the Banker's Panic of 1907 which led the U.S. Government to act. Now, is the FED perfect? No. But it's superior to the previous situation
DAngelo136 2 weeks ago
@DAngelo136
1/1
I have not said that corporations cannot exist.
What I have said is that removing a central credit management system from currency and moving to Commodity money will stop the inflation of the Monetary System.
The problem with fiat money is that the note of representation has no value and due to this it creates uncertain exchange ratio's.
How can you say it is superior when money keeps loosing on its exchange ratio.
bighands69 2 weeks ago
@bighands69 Money doesn't "lose" anything; it has no intrisic value. It is medium of exchage that facilitates trade. A Marxist would say that money has been "fetishised", that is it is valued for itself outside it's original purpose. We have to become political and economic realists, all these instituitons within the system are organic, that is they developed through law and custom, eliminating them is highly improbable, they do serve a purpose. We must focus on how these
DAngelo136 2 weeks ago
@DAngelo136
How can you say that money does not lose anything when in fact inflation destroys purchasing power.
And the US dollor or euro can lose its value against other currencies.
Creating more money does not generate more wealth it just degrade the current pool of money.
Economic markets cannot be programmed as you seem to think.
They are based on supply and demand.
bighands69 2 weeks ago
@bighands69 Compared to what? Again monetary value is what we accept it to be. You answered your own question with: "And the US dollor or euro can lose its value against other currencies" Countries agree, to honor cross value with each other's money so the dollar "loses" value agains the euro but "gains" it against the drachma or whatever as a medium of exchange. Now central banks can choose to expand or contract the money supply as they see to accomodate economic conditions.
DAngelo136 2 weeks ago
@DAngelo136
Money at present is not a metric as a metric has to hold its value. Scale value such as weighing scales do not change.
Fiat money on the other hand vary's based on the creation from central credit.
I will ask you a direct question when quantitative easing is used does it reduce the value of money.
bighands69 1 week ago
@bighands69 "Money at present is not a metric as a metric has to hold it's value..." Well, doesn't that answer your previous statement of: "How can you say it is superior when money keeps loosing on its exchange ratio." So now you with agree with me, that it doesn't have intrisic value except for what it will be accepted for in exchange. At some point, monetary policy becomes ineffective, thats why "Quantitive easing" did not work as planned. It's sort of like trying to feed a horse
DAngelo136 1 week ago
@bighands69 through it's arse; food will get in, but not in a way that will benefit the horse and it makes the horse uncomfortable too.
DAngelo136 1 week ago
@bighands69
2/2
and the reason that money at present is not a metric is down to its fiat standard.
Gold for example either weighs an ounce or not. it is very simple to understand.
Gold at 10 grams is a metric system in a fiat system it is not as the numerical value varies based on the fiat mechanisms.
More money printed equals less value.
bighands69 1 week ago
@bighands69 Central banking is here to stay, we won't eliminate it any more than we will return to the gold standard or use salt as a means of currency. Markets reflect supply and demand through price signalling, central banks maintain levels of currency in order maintain an orderly market, nothing more.
DAngelo136 2 weeks ago
@bighands69 institutions work and introduce more democracy into the decision making process. But the first thing we must do is change our perception of the system by winning the intellectual arguments and gathering popular support. At this time, only a few influential firms through their proxies monopolize the public square, we have to point out the facts and force them to be accountable for their failures.
DAngelo136 2 weeks ago
@DAngelo136
Having a gold currency ensures that the central banking system does not create more money for market controlling measure that do not work.
As you have pointed out money is an exchange medium but if the medium keeps changing as does the money supply (based on market perceptions) then it is not a consist medium of exchange.
Engineers for example do not vary there scales so as to match there ideal of trade and economies and business are no different.
bighands69 2 weeks ago
@bighands69 And when the economy expands, which would entail an expansion of the money supply or else it stymies growth, which is what you want to avoid. Or this scenario: when gold is valued more than the currency, it's to the advantage of the gold holder to hoard gold rather than exchange it for the lesser valued paper. We saw this during the Civil War when the Government issued greenbacks to fund the war. I can never understand 'gold bugs" and moneterists. In their world view,
DAngelo136 2 weeks ago
@bighands69 everything works in theory, until it does'nt. BTW, unless you're advocating the U.S. repudiates Bretton Woods, it 'aint gonna happen.
DAngelo136 2 weeks ago
@bighands69 Now to think that overnight we will change the major institutions of the economy is lunacy and doomed to failure. Change will have to come from within the present structure using the tools that are available to us. Every law that has been enacted , can be repealed. There are no panaceas, only hard work, struggle, and more work. Change is never easy, nor permanent.
DAngelo136 2 weeks ago
Something tells me 2012 is going to be crunch time for western countries. The world economy is only going to get worse - people are going to get even more angry and we'll see mass protests all over the world.
urprivacypolicysucks 2 weeks ago
@urprivacypolicysucks While OWS is a valued operation, it will not be enough. People now have to be politicized and involved in the political process. We have to run slates of candidates to run against office holders who are in thrall to the corporate overlords. There must be financial consequences for the corporations who now are trying to buy influence and power in government.
DAngelo136 2 weeks ago
@DAngelo136 I agree. And mass movements usually do produce a more politicized citizens. Only when things really get bad do people start thinking about things. If only the 'occupy wall street' movement had protested the right people (i.e. Washington), things would be moving along a bit faster.
urprivacypolicysucks 2 weeks ago
@urprivacypolicysucks Well not so much "mass movement" but a "critical mass" of people who can organize and garner support for certain aims. Lenninist theory calls this the "revolutionary vanguard". Now we can't be afraid of using strategies and tactics from other social movements, the idea is change, not ideological purity. But first we must come to the realization that we have power and we can use it.
DAngelo136 2 weeks ago
Half of this is pure scaremongering and conspiracism. It is just as fanciful a theory for me to suggest that the titanic was an insurance job as it is to suggest the G20 summits were an excuse to attack liberalism. The fact is the police got involved in them protests because people started smashing people's businesses and livelihoods. It seems ironic that in retaliation to a lack of democracy and violence enacted by the state, people no one voted for go to the streets and act like yobs
econpilch 2 weeks ago
@econpilch Right. There were no bank bailouts totalling $29 trillion. We aren't being asked to pay for them. This is not the sixth mass extinction in history. The G20 leaders don't make decisions that affect millions of lives. Everything is fine. Capitalism is great. Go home and watch TV.
CapitalismCrisis 2 weeks ago 16
1:25:44 FREE PALESTINE!
Azamspazam91 3 weeks ago
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Azamspazam91 3 weeks ago
What futile resistance against the establishment. The only social force large enough to deal with abuse and corruption on this scale is a universal one: Islam is the solution.
Azamspazam91 3 weeks ago
@Azamspazam91
Religion is the opiate of the masses.
maxcommunist 3 weeks ago
@maxcommunist Tell that to the Arabs. without Islam they never would have overthrown their dictators.
"Entertainment" is the opiate of the masses. Religion is self control, critical thinking and progress with moral solidification on every standpoint.
Azamspazam91 3 weeks ago
@Azamspazam91
Sure, they've thrown out their dictators, to be replaced with new dictators. It won't get any better if the new government is the islamistic fundies in the Muslim Brotherhood either.
You're saying that you can't overthrow dictators without islam? Study some history.
maxcommunist 3 weeks ago
@maxcommunist Who are you to say that? The last time the majority of Muslims approved of their government, we controlled half of the known world and held the largest most advanced cities yet seen.
Azamspazam91 3 weeks ago
@Azamspazam91
Right, and I guess you think that life was a paradise for ordinary people back then? Only Communism, the stateless and classless society can set mankind truly free.
maxcommunist 3 weeks ago
@maxcommunist He is richest who's pleasures are cheapest.
Muslims are not looking to create paradise on earth. We're looking to implement the laws of the Creator in our lives. That means ensuring justice at every level of society.
I believe everyone feels the need to compete to prove themselves and earn self respect. In America we compete with each other for wealth no matter who we have to exploit.
In Islam we compete w/ each other for better moral actions which leads to inner contentment
Azamspazam91 3 weeks ago
I was looking for a film like the present one. It is high time we distributed this film reedited with subtitles in regional languages. On my part I would very much like to distribute this film among my people in karnataka, India. Please help me to secure a dvd
Prof.V.N.Laxminarayana, m 1237, 2nd main, vivekanandanagar, mysore-570023, karnataka, India.
vnlnarayana 1 month ago 12
@vnlnarayana Thank you, professor. I will put a copy in the mail today. I hope NTSC format is ok. It's all I have at the moment.
CapitalismCrisis 1 month ago
@vnlnarayana also see 'capitalism hits the fan' by prof. richard wolff (on here, the 1hr 45m version is the best one).
donkiddick08 2 weeks ago
@vnlnarayana just download it and make a dvd. go to keepvid.com
agents1986 1 week ago
@vnlnarayana I think that the people of india would benefit from more capitalism rather than socialism.
dukee155 6 days ago
@dukee155 may be you are right. But I am not sure whether you are speaking of the same people that I have in my mind. As long as we are compelled to live in a world where fraud and injustice are legalised and commodification of everything including labour and emotion is constitutionalized we are bound to have these differences. In capitalism 'fair is foul and foul is fair'. The present world being penetrated with American dream of global cannibalism testifies to this.
vnlnarayana 6 days ago
@vnlnarayana I agree that fraud should be illegal. However I'm just wondering how you define fraud. Also can you give an example of how emotion is a commodity?
dukee155 6 days ago
We are the first generation that has developed the ability to raise the corporate curtain blanketing the blind aging population. We are the first generation can educate ourselves through the use of digital technology and expose the corruption. We are the first generation that is not being taught by the previous but are teaching the previous. We are the first generation that understands what must be done and our leaders are afraid of us. We are this generation and we are the new leaders.
drake6430 1 month ago
@H1TMANactual
which could have been made in a resource-based economy
limitless45 1 month ago
@limitless45 NOPE. Even if you somehow have perfect knowledge of the all the resources and needs of the people, these services and products require thousands of hours of labor.
H1TMANactual 1 month ago
wow obama is a such disappointment.
glower125 1 month ago
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Capitalism Solves Problems, Government Creates Problems.
jackram2h2 1 month ago
There is no force more coercive than accumulated capital; it bends men, governments and armies to its will. American Libertarians refuse to acknowledge that fact.
LaughingLefty 1 month ago
We need socialism.
Tsukae 1 month ago
@Tsukae Yeah we tried that. Try reading some history.
tjohn1986 1 month ago
the tent people need to start working together like old humans use to do.... chop some trees down and make yourself a righteous shelter.....
josh1josh1josh1 1 month ago
he mentions my home town :(
milesistheowl 1 month ago
"A monopoly on the means of communication may define a ruling elite more precisely than the celebrated Marxian formula of monopoly in the means of production."
-- Robert Anton Wilson
jontheplatypus 1 month ago
@Shanockdotcom Yeah, wrong again Bob. You have to have a pretty distorted vision of freedom if you think that's where capitalism comes from and you have to have a pretty distorted view of capitalism if you think that it doesn't involve force, or the state.
TheRacistsMustDie 1 month ago
Capitalism doesn't exist it hasn't existed for over a hundred years. We live in a corporate fascism. There is no free market. What is the reason for all this? FIAT currency.
4HITMAN7 1 month ago
@4HITMAN7 i'm with you man and it;s not kapitalism to blame it's money and the financial system for ex muslim banking with no intrest is a real thing but can americans ever accept that ? sure not we are lied by the media that muslims are only undeveloped crazy people look at that they have a better banking system ,and by all means at computing power today we can have real time barter no money involved no forex speculation no outsourcing
io007a 1 month ago
@io007a Yes, americans and the world could accept that because a gold based money is the enemy to the current fractional-reserve banking. The problem is people do not understand the current monetary system they think that the paper in their pocket is worth something when it is a worthless piece of paper.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws." Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812), founder of the House of Rothschild.
4HITMAN7 1 month ago
Occupy was named 'word of the year' for 2011.
IntuitiveLeap 1 month ago
Greetings, i am a member of IASR (Anarcho-Syndicalist Initiative from Romania), we would love to create Romanian subtitles for this documentary, if you guys can provide the transcript, we can do it. Reply this comment or PM me, if you guys are OK with this idea. All the best. Solidarity!
Menace3434 1 month ago 15
@Menace3434 Thanks. I appreciate the idea. I don't have a transcript for the film. You're welcome to give it a shot, though.
CapitalismCrisis 1 month ago
@CapitalismCrisis . @Menace3434, I will type up a transcript if you are serious. (reply if you are serious)
milktoast2 1 month ago
@milktoast2 That sounds great. What would you like me to do? I can send you a dvd, if that helps.
CapitalismCrisis 1 month ago
@CapitalismCrisis A dvd would be great for hosting screenings (I'm in Montreal) but it's not necessary for the transcript. If @Menace3434 is serious, or other non-English-speaking activists would benefit from a transcript, I'll go ahead and type one out. I won't take the time unless someone expresses real interest though.
milktoast2 1 month ago
@milktoast2
Do you have english transcript? i want to translate it and create a persian subtitle,
Thank you Comrade,
alefseen 2 weeks ago
@alefseen Hi, Sorry I don't have a transcript for the film. I can send you a DVD, if that would help. Please let me know.
CapitalismCrisis 2 weeks ago
@milktoast2
and this is my email:
alefseen@gmail.com
alefseen 2 weeks ago
if only the rich built community cafeterias.. if only they built hotels/hostels and subsidized it as homeless shelters.. aren't any of the rich true Christians? please help the poor and store your treasures in heaven.. these words are plain and simple.. read it and weap.
Thizzmotion 1 month ago
its the ordinary people that are responsible for all that shit, coz they got tricked by the Intelligent wealthy people, they play you easy then you realise and youre all mad? Be mad at yourself.
LukasX62S 1 month ago
@LukasX62S thats pretty sad what your saying. so if a buy some thing and get ripped off its my own fauld ( ok partly true) the person sould go freely without any punishment? thats what you saying right? and dont start on the spelling becuse im not english ;)
blooddemon66 1 month ago
@blooddemon66 OMG ARE YOU AN IDIOT OR YOU JUST PRETENDING?
LukasX62S 1 month ago
@LukasX62S im an idiot becuse you justify what the so called wealth intelligent people did and is doing to the working class? lets not fight useless on the internet but learn from each other.
blooddemon66 1 month ago
@blooddemon66 You're useless, wealthy do what we let them! They would be stupid if they didnt do what they do. Its not their fault people are FUCKING stupid. Now get away from me.
LukasX62S 1 month ago
System of a down - Aerials.
LukasX62S 1 month ago
Its SO easy to live in a capitalist world, and be the winner, of course apart from the damage it does to the atmosphere. People buy shit they dont need, people buy stuff that they cant afford. Save money, dont EVER take loans, DONT EVER GET A HOUSE UNLESS U HAVE THE FULL AMOUNT TO PAY FOR IT, or you are going to pay huge interest. LEARN EVERYthing about capitalism, and you can live with it, be open minded. Death to socialism, killer of ambition.
LukasX62S 1 month ago
Those damn capitalists, all the time paying for shit, generating jobs and wealth.
Seano71 2 months ago
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kropotkinbeard1 2 months ago
You people should see what's going on down here in Venezuela. The revolution that you so much want and desire, it's taking place right here in my country: The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela. A revolution that is being led by our Commander Hugo Chavez. We, Bolivarian Venezuelan people hope you, Americans, Canadians and Europeans can make your own revolution just like we did here. Peace and God bless.
SIMCOful 2 months ago
not capitalism state corperatism
death9719 2 months ago
@death9719 nope. capitalism.
thedreamisstilldead 2 months ago
@thedreamisstilldead how the state created the corporations, true capitalism doesn't have that
death9719 2 months ago
@death9719 true capitalism is a fantasy that has never existed. it is a figment of your imagination.
thedreamisstilldead 2 months ago
@death9719 dark ages ireland, new england, the early west, icelandic commonwealth, freetown ETC
death9719 2 months ago
@death9719 dark ages ireland. right. before there was even a concept called capitalism.
thedreamisstilldead 2 months ago
@death9719 yes they did look up Ireland's Success with the Free Market and Anarchism
death9719 2 months ago
@death9719 anarchism is not capitalism. ever.
thedreamisstilldead 2 months ago
@death9719 ever here of volunteerism, anarcho capitalism. you want to get rid of one monopoly, capitalism and replace it with another, collectivism, no monopoly is ever good. i'm fine with communism, or capitalism, or any system as long as its imposed by the choice of the people, and those who don't like it can leave.
death9719 2 months ago
@death9719 afraid not, friend. anarcho-capitalism is total bullshit. the terms are incompatible. libertarian socialism (anarchism) is what i want.
thedreamisstilldead 2 months ago
@thedreamisstilldead so you want to stop people from working for the bosses, right? because the bosses use coercion to make people work for them?
death9719 2 months ago
@death9719 what if people want to work for a hierarchy, what do you do, use coercion to stop them?
death9719 2 months ago
@death9719 no, we educate them as to why a hierarchy is undesirable. we also oppose the hierarchy, and all forms of oppression. bottom line: capitalism only exists through the widespread use of coercion, alienation, and oppression.
thedreamisstilldead 2 months ago
@thedreamisstilldead corperatism is not capitalism. its a perversion of it. a free market is free of the gov. monopolism and corperatism are evil, competitive capitalism is freedom
patton890 1 month ago
@patton890 wrong. capitalism has always been a system of oppression based on the mass exploitation of people and nature. capitalism has always involved the cooperation of states on behalf of the wealthy and powerful. what you are describing has never existed.
thedreamisstilldead 1 month ago
Great music.
ShinobiBoiX 2 months ago
Awesome documentary. I recommend Zeitgeist Moving Forward to learn about an egalitarian sustainable scientific economic and social system.
IHighLikePlane 2 months ago
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Matthew 23:4 "They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them." Luke 11:16 "And he said, “Woe to you '( BANKERS,CORPORATIONS AND GOVERNMENTS! )' For you load people with burdens hard to bear, and you yourselves do not touch the burdens with one of your fingers." Capitals mine.
miss3v3lyn 2 months ago
Matthew 23:4 "They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them." Luke 11:16 "And he said, “Woe to you '( BANKERS AND GOVERNMENTS! )' For you load people with burdens hard to bear, and you yourselves do not touch the burdens with one of your fingers." Capitals mine.
miss3v3lyn 2 months ago
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sir i really want to known is financial crisis a manmade catastrophy or not....
plz send me detail's.....on both side...
very essential to me
vikramsinghdafauti 2 months ago
a RESOURCE-BASED ECONOMY.-SPREAD THE WORD
berny88925 2 months ago 2
@berny88925 "resources" are the problem. Why should we view the earth as a resource to be exploited? That's the same way capitalists view it.
skulldrix 2 months ago
Death to capitalism!
Life to the Resource-Based Economy!
erasmusso 2 months ago 38
@erasmusso money represents resources
4HITMAN7 1 month ago
@4HITMAN7 When the Fed and the banks create money out of thin air, that money isn't backed up by any resources.
erasmusso 1 month ago
@erasmusso That is correct, and every time they print it they lone it with interests and the money for interests doesn't exist so it can never be repaid. Debt slavery.
4HITMAN7 1 month ago
@erasmusso man i've seen a documentary and read about that can work BUT it has a little flw that can crumble the system who decides the amount of resources we have and who decides how to use them that;s the problem it's more concentrated power in a few hands ,the less people decide the bigger the mistakes can be , i agree with everything else though
io007a 1 month ago
@io007a What documentary did you watch? In the RBE there's a completely new method of decision making: There will be no government or president making decisions based on opinion or emotions of a particular issue. We will ARRIVE to a decision based on factual evidence, scientific research and the carrying capacity of the earth.
Take the human body for example: the brain doesn't dictate how much oxygen will the liver get. Every organ gets as much nutrients as it needs an nobody makes decisions.
erasmusso 1 month ago
@erasmusso Cool story Zeitard. Know anyone besides a bunch of gullible on the internet that back your "movement"?
tjohn1986 1 month ago
@tjohn1986 Yes, I do, but tell me, what makes you hate Zeitgeist?
erasmusso 1 month ago
@erasmusso I don't hate them. It's amusing to see how some people are so gullible to believe a pipe dream sold to them by a youtube mockumentary.
tjohn1986 1 month ago
@tjohn1986 Ok, why do you think Zeitgeist is fake and gay? Because of the conspiracy crap or because of the pseudo-scientific technocratic Venus Project?
erasmusso 1 month ago
@erasmusso so you support redistributing the wealth until there is none left? you support theft of wealth rightfully earned? you support death to small business (our economic future) rights? You don't support free trade? You support rewarding laziness and decreasing wealth of entire state? You support high taxes on middle class? You support a laziness=benefit society? You support, in short, taking my money forcibly to give to those who don't earn it, or deserve it. Now, justify your beliefs.
subscribefori 1 month ago
@subscribefori That's a lot of questions, let's see...
No.
No.
No.
I don't support the free market system because there's nothing "free" in this system, I support real freedom.
No.
No.
No.
No. (you forgot a question mark)
What beliefs would you like me to justify?
erasmusso 1 month ago
@erasmusso then sir, i believe you are not a socialist, but simply put an idiot. How is a free market not free, when you can trade with anyone you want!! And how is 'fair' market 'freedom' when you control who your citizens trade with? You just turned common sense upside down, and what I want you justify is your side of story, how do you feel this benefits the country? Please I'm interested.
subscribefori 1 month ago
@subscribefori "How is a free market not free, when you can trade with anyone you want!!" The ability to trade does not, and should not, define freedom. Capitalism functions by imperialist domination (not freedom) for resources and markets. Capitalism functions by exploitation (not freedom) of workers and nature. Capitalism functions by monopolizing trade, especially in your libertarian fantasy in which the "market" has no restraints.
thedreamisstilldead 1 month ago
@subscribefori Also, What part of a $29 trillion bank bailout is freedom? I don't remember anyone voting on it? Seems like the investment class just held a gun to the US government and said, "Give us all your money!"
thedreamisstilldead 1 month ago
@subscribefori Hmmm... why don't we start over?
So, I said I support the Resource-Based Economy, then you assumed that I support the redistribution of wealth, rewarding laziness, high taxes on middle class, etc. By connecting the dots I'd say you have a problem with the "Resource-Based Economy", right? So maybe I should first explain what is this economy I'm talking about. The fastest way to do that is if you watch this movie:
/watch?v=EewGMBOB4Gg
Can you please watch this movie first? :)
erasmusso 1 month ago
@erasmusso why don't you watch this one, I already watched yours. /watch?v=cy1vsPWzCbk Please give me your opinion/counterattack.
subscribefori 1 month ago
@subscribefori Thank you very much, I wish everybody would be so reasonable. I watched the video, but unfortunately the ratings have been disabled and comments are all held for approval, so I'll have to wait and see what krazyhandz666 makes with my comments.
As for my opinion, needless to say, we'd need a lot more characters per comment than the allowed 500, so why don't you tell me what point should we discuss first?
erasmusso 3 weeks ago
There is no planet B
NeverFails09 3 months ago
Is there no Chapter 7?
rg0057 3 months ago
@rg0057 Oops.
CapitalismCrisis 3 months ago
Please search austrian economics
Rasterius 3 months ago
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Do you know what capitalism is? What?...
Get F***ed!!! ~Tony Montana 1983~
Slimpickinsorl 3 months ago
We all live on tax farms, see your existance as it is. Your taxes go to pay down the interest accumulated on money loans from central banks. 50% of the nations produced wealth each year goes to the IRS for pay for this debt. You are left alone to choose your jobs so that you will be productive, and so they will have more to steal from you.
We got the bail outs, because the banks wanted them.
Inflation is a flat tax, and taxation is theft.
MirageScience 3 months ago
everyone hated the bank bailouts... everyone claps... but they still did it, and they are still doing it.
ReddmanDGZ 3 months ago
Can someone please tell me the name of the intro song? thx.
y0nd3r 3 months ago
@y0nd3r I think that is a sample from "Jane & Finch" by Chet Singh. Please check the credits.
thedreamisstilldead 3 months ago
Hey, Occupy Wall Street, Occupy Everything!
THIS is what anarchists want. We all know that capitalism cannot support our communities! Let's work together to end the injustices of neo-liberal capital.
TRBtree 3 months ago
We need more Co-Ops all over
Laughingblades 3 months ago 3
can anyone tell me what is the name of the rap music at the end of the film?
many thanks
chiflee67 3 months ago
@chiflee67 "Which Side Are You On" by Rebel Diaz. Please see the credits for details.
CapitalismCrisis 3 months ago
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@CapitalismCrisis Is there a list of all credits available online? Speakers, music etc.
mtwilson1200 2 months ago
is that the first anarchist docu that doesn't feature chomsky or at least a quote of his?
dontliethetruth 3 months ago
I think everyone should be able to have the proper tools and conditions (government-provided, funds to help research) to develop well (health, transportation, water and basic food like vegetables an fruits) without any work. Only to get luxury stuff (cars, phones, trip) and innovate you must have a capitalist model. I don´t think a strict socialist model can have the technology we have developed (where is the motivation coming from?). TL;DR SOCIALISM BASIS + CAPITALIST DEVELOPMENT
jolmanska 3 months ago
Capitalism is a monopoly game, the only difference is that after the winner is decided, the game continues on and on, for ever, and ever. And EVER. AND EVER.
Xaphirezst 3 months ago
@Xaphirezst that is until there is a revolution
pistolpete667 3 months ago 2
@pf91rodman I agree with what you said to @Mwesada Capitalism isn't the problem. I'm a capitalist, I have my own business and I share this same opportunity with others, so that they may become wealthy.
lifeforce218 3 months ago
Capitalism inevitably leads to violence and confrontation and immense inequality.
Metsada007 3 months ago
@Metsada007
What's causing America's problems is corporatism not capitalism
pf91rodman 3 months ago
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@pf91rodman "What's causing America's problems is corporatism not capitalism". FUNNY. What's causing corporatism problem is capitalism. You are trying to stomp on the ants and not just taking the root causes which is the rotten candy behind your freezer. Please do your research.
Xaphirezst 3 months ago
Why is globalization aligned only with the neo-liberal economic agenda? Globalization is also about culture, activism, media, society. Global action can save this planet for humanity.
Didgebaba 3 months ago
It can buy a bath, but it can't buy purity
It can buy bodyguards, but it can't buy security
While people around the world starve, I eat
Cause money can buy war, but it can't buy peace
Some do everything and anything to get the p's
The society we livin' in, it's a necessity
It's got the power to turn your best friends to enemies
It's funny cause money doesn't follow us when we leave.
88martinoldfield 3 months ago
Money can buy power, but it can't buy respect
Money can't buy sleep, but it can buy a bed
Money can't buy you love, but it can buy sex
Do you posses money or by money are you possessed?
Money can buy a house, but it can't buy a home
So even with money you still feel all alone
Money can buy you friends, but it can't buy family
Money can't make you happy, that's just a fallacy
88martinoldfield 3 months ago
@88martinoldfield Well then!! Lucky us the rich are relieving us of the burden of all that dreadful money!! But seriously, you should be careful where you locate the issue. The problems that face us aren't caused by greed etc., but by the necessities of the capitalist system. Any capitalist who stops caring about money will soon join the long line of outstretched hands begging for wages from his former, wilier, peers.
LilSplish 3 months ago