If the socialist view point could be a just a little less group centered I could support it a bit more. Although, I do find the idea of everyone pulling together to make sure more people have everything they need is a bright point.
@AtheismCentral Well... Thats odd, but kinda good in it's own way, I've been up for communism/socialism since I learned about the USSR (history fanatic, so I learned about them early in my life), and I've looked into communism/socialism, etc, all I know is that Capitalism fucking sucks, and Socialism sounds just good to me, I don't know why, it just does... probably explains the USSR flag in my room.
I agree on the human nature part. It's human nature to want to punch someone in the face when they piss you off, but you hold yourself back from it... If greed was human nature, why isn't everyone stealing other peoples shit? Exactly... they don't because most humans know its wrong.
My only criticism of MaoistRebel's video is that it only pertained to State Socialism, different models of socialism include the cooperative company model, libertarian socialism in which there is no state, hell actually there are a lot of different ways socialism can work.
State socialism is like a Worker's form of State capitalism IMO. I favor a mix of cooperative companies in a regulated market with a democratic socialist state myself.
@alexzracer2008 stupid is knowing facts and behaving or talking as though they were disposable. ignorant is being unaware of facts, thus without knowledge.
@chickenwretch yeah I know that but "talking as though they were disposable"
I really don't' know what you mean by that
I originally asked to which guy were you calling stupid in the video? Like what is your point of calling them stupid? Because you don't agree with communism, and he does?
In a Worker Cooperative the workers would own the factory and democratically manage it, all the surplus value after taxes would go back into the company and to the workers, they'd all have a vested interest in producing good coats and making the workplace prosper because they'd all have a direct economic stake in the company.
So ultimately more people would have money to circulate through the economy and there would be less poverty. Check out Mondragon in Spain
now the workers have worse working conditions who will make sure this boss is just the government? couldent he just bribe who ever came to check on him since who ever does earns the same as everyone else?
capitalism is the use of capital to produce a good or service. Without the use of capital, NOTHING can be produced. The big difference is who controls the capital. Is it state owned monopoly capitalism(socialism/communism), or free market capitalism(competitive)? If you are for socialism, you are for capitalism, except you do not want any personal property or responsibility. The problem is never capitalism, but corruption and greed. If you are against capitalism, you are against ALL production
So many genius's dont even know the difference between capitalism, socialism, and communism.But they sure have vast opinions on the evils of socialism. Fucking idiots cause socialism would help most everybody, but their brainwashed to hate all except capitalism.
I've thought that the human nature argument was a valid one, until I remembered hearing of some ancient nomadic tribes had no concept of property at all.
If the socialist view point could be a just a little less group centered I could support it a bit more. Although, I do find the idea of everyone pulling together to make sure more people have everything they need is a bright point.
freedomwv 2 months ago
@AtheismCentral Well... Thats odd, but kinda good in it's own way, I've been up for communism/socialism since I learned about the USSR (history fanatic, so I learned about them early in my life), and I've looked into communism/socialism, etc, all I know is that Capitalism fucking sucks, and Socialism sounds just good to me, I don't know why, it just does... probably explains the USSR flag in my room.
Fliptyfloop 3 months ago
I agree on the human nature part. It's human nature to want to punch someone in the face when they piss you off, but you hold yourself back from it... If greed was human nature, why isn't everyone stealing other peoples shit? Exactly... they don't because most humans know its wrong.
thatkindofguy234 3 months ago
My only criticism of MaoistRebel's video is that it only pertained to State Socialism, different models of socialism include the cooperative company model, libertarian socialism in which there is no state, hell actually there are a lot of different ways socialism can work.
State socialism is like a Worker's form of State capitalism IMO. I favor a mix of cooperative companies in a regulated market with a democratic socialist state myself.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
stupid, not ignorant.
chickenwretch 3 months ago
@chickenwretch Who and what specifically?
alexzracer2008 2 months ago
@alexzracer2008 When and where, specifically?
chickenwretch 2 months ago
@chickenwretch about the comment you made "stupid, not ignorant" What did you mean by that?
alexzracer2008 2 months ago
@alexzracer2008 stupid is knowing facts and behaving or talking as though they were disposable. ignorant is being unaware of facts, thus without knowledge.
chickenwretch 2 months ago
@chickenwretch yeah I know that but "talking as though they were disposable"
I really don't' know what you mean by that
I originally asked to which guy were you calling stupid in the video? Like what is your point of calling them stupid? Because you don't agree with communism, and he does?
alexzracer2008 2 months ago
let me know pleas
pitoria36 3 months ago
this would suck for the workers and in turn the jacket industry the jackets i would by would be lousy and prob wouldn't keep me warm?
pitoria36 3 months ago
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Laughingblades 3 months ago
Ahem, I mean to say
Not really.
In a Worker Cooperative the workers would own the factory and democratically manage it, all the surplus value after taxes would go back into the company and to the workers, they'd all have a vested interest in producing good coats and making the workplace prosper because they'd all have a direct economic stake in the company.
So ultimately more people would have money to circulate through the economy and there would be less poverty. Check out Mondragon in Spain
Laughingblades 3 months ago
now the workers have worse working conditions who will make sure this boss is just the government? couldent he just bribe who ever came to check on him since who ever does earns the same as everyone else?
pitoria36 3 months ago
and if he he lost interest couldn't he easily embezzle things from the buisness so that e could continue living better?
pitoria36 3 months ago
wouldn't the boss lose intrest in his buisness if he is not benefiting from it?
pitoria36 3 months ago
great vid very well spoken
burningflag43 4 months ago
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capitalism is the use of capital to produce a good or service. Without the use of capital, NOTHING can be produced. The big difference is who controls the capital. Is it state owned monopoly capitalism(socialism/communism), or free market capitalism(competitive)? If you are for socialism, you are for capitalism, except you do not want any personal property or responsibility. The problem is never capitalism, but corruption and greed. If you are against capitalism, you are against ALL production
reallaraw 5 months ago
Oh I started to think that MRN uploaded this...
UnitedCommunists 5 months ago
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UnitedCommunists 5 months ago
I got the human race argument a lot while
I was doing a speech Q and A I always tell
People that humans are not naturally greedy
Capitalism does that.
Eternalgamers1 5 months ago
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GeneralKlaas 5 months ago
i have that same jacket
MACEX1000 5 months ago
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" - Karl Heinrich Marx
ProMarxman 5 months ago
however some people are more equal than others in all socialist societys
sarabower1 6 months ago
Genius video, Comrade! Stalin must be smiling, hehe :)
TheCommunist100 6 months ago
So many genius's dont even know the difference between capitalism, socialism, and communism.But they sure have vast opinions on the evils of socialism. Fucking idiots cause socialism would help most everybody, but their brainwashed to hate all except capitalism.
3sjh3 6 months ago
I've thought that the human nature argument was a valid one, until I remembered hearing of some ancient nomadic tribes had no concept of property at all.
LogicalThinker667 6 months ago
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you kinda went in circles, not really clear but good info
frvfilms 6 months ago
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frvfilms 6 months ago
@frvfilms
How so?
AtheismCentral 6 months ago
yet another great video owning idiots :)
MuslimRebelRevolte 6 months ago