people comparing Hendrix and Montgomery should be ashamed of themselves. Learn to understand progress, revolution, innovation. Montgomery was a great player, Hendrix was a great player. If you think praising one of them higher then others makes you a better person or your musical tastes better, you are wrong.
@vekkth What planet dropped you off! Since when are people not entitled to opinions and ideas that oppose each other. Let's put it this way. Music is Art. Art can be a Masterpiece. Art can also be paint by numbers. Montgomery's work is a Masterpiece. Hendrix's work is paint by numbers all Art. OK with that?
@MrGoflyers this is a one nice example of hypocrisy. Again, Montgomery was an amazing guitar player, a person that shaped jazz guitar for years ahead. Hendrix did exactly the same, more for a rock music, but it doesnt matter. Music is everything, its huge, its more then your judgement, or mine, or even Hendrixes or Wes. you are trying to compare those who are the best among the musicians, you are doing a senseless job. Time will judge much better then you.
Great song. Amazing player. I just want to throw out there that Hendrix was very well versed in jazz and played in numerous jazz bands before he hit it big. Thanks for the upload
Eric Clapton only wishes he could play half as well as Wes.This guy was so far beyond in ability than all these so called rock guitar greats give me a break.Hendrix,Clapton,Van Halen,etc... they can,t lick this man's shoes!!
@MrGoflyers i agree, I think Wes Montgomery is the greatest guitarist of all time, i mean clapton and van halen are incredible, but Wes Montgomery is in a league of his own, no guitarist could match his amazing phrasing and time!
@MrGoflyers Reading this comment has made me realize that no matter how 'cultured' somebody thinks they are, they will not give credit to anyone they see even remotely as a threat. I really hope you were just thinking of a buzzcomment to get more thumbs-ups and don't actually think that way.
@VisualGP1 Clapton,Hendrix,etc...rock guitarist are no threat to what you just listened to and if you do then I feel sorry for you and your very "shallowed cultured world" you live in. Keep listening and playing the stuff you find entertaning that's was is best for you enjoy and all the best.
@MrGoflyers Yeah, I didn't see Master Montgomery anywhere on Rolling Stone's supposed "Best Guitarists Ever" list! Kurt Cobain and John Lennon were high on this list to! Don't get me wrong, love Nirvana, like the Beatles, but seriously, they weren't among the best guitarists ever. Wes should be number 1, even Hendrix is a lesser guitarist than Master Wes Montgomery.
@willschmidguitar Rolling Stone Magazine that say's it all LOL.Like getting your info on the real world fromTIME magazine! I agree with what your saying about other's it's not a competion it's art.Still some become known& popular. While other's are just flat out amazing & nobody know's they exist. Gatton,Carlton,Segovia,Williams,Green,Atkins on & on &on all the best
@willschmidguitar well how many people know who Wes is compared to Jimi?? rolling stone like many companies and corporation put money ahead of actual music. and besides greatest guitarists ever is tooo subjective it actually doesnt make sense for them to say who the best guitarists are because. music isnt relevant that way.
I first heard of Wes.on a radio station in Detroit, mi. in the 60s. The disc jockey tole this story. Seems Wes won the numbers game amd took his winnings and bought an electric gutiar. All his friends laughed at him as he could not play it. He learned and became one of the greats. I never forgot that story and have no idea if its true.
(Contd) - and Django, Blackmore, Paul Gilbert, Rhandy Rhoads, Schenker, Eduardo Fernandez, Oscar Ghighlia, the Romero family, Steve Winwood, George Benson, Lukather, Rory Gallagher, Slash, Robby Krieger, Duane Allman, Berry, Robert Clay, Berry, Al di Meoloa, Paco de Lucia, Ron Wood, Keith Richards, Paul and George, Knopfler, Jeff Beck, Frusciante, Paco Pena, the Edge, Jerry Garcia, Earl Klugh, Johnny Winter, Kenny Burrell, Carlos & Ramon Montoya...please help me! No more room on Mt Rushmore! LOL
@mikexlong - It just goes on and on, man. Johnny Lee Hooker, Allan Holdsworth (as the gentleman after me correctly commented) - and as long as we're into prog rock, can't overlook Hackett, Steve Howe, Robert Fripp...then, Steve Morse, Eric Johnson, Jeff Healey...Brian May, Ritenour, Vai, Satriani, Kazuhito Yamashita,...and on and on and on...even Prince is an amazing guitar player....and then you have literally thousands and thousands of excellent unknown players online on Youtube, etc.
@GCLwins - And see the wonder!: even after that litany, we still managed to miss some grand old champs who can destroy on the guitar: Chet Atkins, Les Paul, John McClaughlin, Frank Zappa, Johnny Winter, Buddy Guy, Brian Jones, Mike Bloomfield, Keith Richards, Ron Wood...endless.
PS: Rolling Stone magazine has no clue on how to properly "rank" guitarists, assuming such a thing can be done to begin with. Their methodology is so sloppy and biased, it is laughable to any serious guitar player.
@Jackthestripper - correct, thank you for including Van Halen (someone has more sense than Rolling Stone magazine) ; but I wish there was room to also include Charlie Christian, Joe Pass, Pat Methany, Scofield, Stanley Jordan, Julian Bream, Segovia, Parkening, Barrueco, Jimmy Page, Freddie King, Clapton, Malmsteen, SRV...oh Christ, there's no end to this, is there?
@willy1986tralara It's his way of playing... You can't copy and expect the same results... and you wouldn't tell him to do it "right", cause he sounded so damn good! :)
hello guitar fans, who want to know the work of tb Mazin Silva, Brazilian guitarist, feel free to listen to Brazilian guitar,,,, Mazin SILVA (search youtube)
and on the subject of theory... Theory serves mainly as a way to communicate musical ideas. It's a lot easier to say hey let's play a ii-V-I as opposed to saying here's this chord progression let me play it a few times so you can learn it. A person can be great at catching a football but if they don't know what it means to run a slant route or a curl or whatever then they wont make it very far as a receiver.
@andmaketherain Great players -precede- theory, -then- we devise theories about how they made great music. When the next great -disregards- those theories, we'll theorize about how -he- made great music without observing those -other- theories.
alguien sabe como se llama el tubo del dedo que utilizaban los guitarristas de jazz para hacer que se distorsionase el sonido de la guitarra y pareciese un muelle???? porfavor, es urgente :) graciiaaas
@milesdavidsmith I think Wes' playing translates into every Jazz guitarists' playing henceforth. Hard to imagine anyone not taking from him since his arrival on the scene.
My step dad has an old 57 gibson that looks just like that, my whole life i thought as soon as the champ croaks im selling it for top dollar, but after discovering Wes im going to guard that thing with my life now. This guy is too cool for school.
Even before John Coltrane made it his own,a tenor sax player named Rocky Boyd wrote this tune in a question form too Miles Davis tune "So What" Rocky called his tune" Why Not". Trane was more famous so the tune today is known as "Impressions". True story.Trane also tried to recurit Wes into the John Coltrane Quartet,Wes refused and went with Creed Taylor and Verve records.But as you see by this video Wes live was true to his Jazz roots in live concert..
i think theory is really important as far as learning the vocabulary, but the true essence of improvisation and jazz playing is what you hear and feel in regards to the progression. or so i think .
@fendergasm11 you think right. And the more you practice and the more chord scales you learn the better you can improvise. It´s like another language, maybe you go to another country and you can speak enough to not get lost but you can´t give an opìnion about for example: history. I think I made my point.
Wes fans should check out one of his disciples, a very talented lady called Emily Remler, sadly also no longer with us See vid, Emily Remler - a blues.
Wes was such a natural talent...He would encourage anybody anyway... I don't think he had a negative personality...it shows in his playing...life ...music...I am so grateful just to hear his wonderful playing...it's not a theory non theory thing...Wes had to learn his way...that was the best way for him & us...I would encourage anybody to learn as much as they can...for the love of music... and gratitude
Learning the guitar is a never ending journey. I think the best way to learn is to just to play however you are comfortable. Django with two fingers and wes with the thumb. I use the nail of my index finger to pick and sometimes my thumb or sometimes all my fingers or sometimes a pick although i use that the least. There is no limit to what you can do and if you're ear is good the theory will come naturally.
What I see is pure joy in playing. Look at the drummer and Wes smiling at each other. Great swinging playing here. Thanks to youtube for making all these wonderful videos available. I had discovered so many wonderful musicians here. Until about 1 year ago, all I knew about Wes's playing was "octave playing Wes". The commercially successful Wes. Then you see videos like this and it takes your breath away.
@benson55545 Wes didn't read music nor did he practice scales. Had trouble reading chord boxes although he really didn't need to.
The man was gifted! If you get the CD 'W.M Live @ Ronnie Scott's 1965' there's a 3. min interview with him at the end done by Ike Isaacs.( who was a friend of my family) You'll be astonished at what he says.
Not bothering to learn theory is fine as long as it doesn't stop you from achieving your goals musically, but it seems like too many young players these days view a lack of knowledge as something that's noble or makes the player that much more unique. To me it just seems like an excuse. With the internet you can pretty much get a world class music education via Youtube for the cost of a monthly internet connection. Why WOULDN'T you take advantage of that and get your knowledge together?
@MarkusFunk Because it ruins some people. I've seen too many kids who have theory coming out of their ass but couldn't feel the music if they even tried to. They turn into what I call jazz "clones" or "robots". I think everyone should have a basis but beyond that it's up to the person whether they want to continue or not. I've spent much of my time unlearning and I've honestly become a better musician. This is in the context of jazz though. Kids today? Yeah they should learn, no excuses.
@slick82958 Sorry for the deletes, but I was trying to summarize. I hear what you're saying, but the problem is not the theory. Theory is knowledge and knowledge is power, so it can only enhance. What "ruins" the players you're describing is their lack of assimilating the basic ingredients of playing, like internal rhythm and feel. They then overcompensate for this lack by piling on the theoretical knowledge, which makes theory itself look like the culprit. This is just an illusion however.
I always just told myself that people express themselves differently and whether their bodies decide to physically manifest emotion into gestures is different for everyone.For theory,well,I think it's pretty darn essential.There are players who don't know much of theory so they memorize where positions rather than just knowing the notes and where they are to lets say a major scale.I guess people don't play for the same reasons that a few of us might do and don't wanna go farther
very well said my man. i think too many people look at learning theory as some sort of hindrance; as if once it is learned it will forever constrict one's "creative flow". that's a crock... learning how to describe one's musical vocabulary only improves it, and makes the person more proficient at using it.
@MarkusFunk - I absolutely agree with every word you wrote - why only jazz? it applies to classical, blues, ethnic music, and even rock 'n roll - the sheer volume of online musical resources at the disposal of kids growing up today is simply mind-boggling. Back when I was growing up and studying guitar, we simply did not have access to this amount of information, and had to work hard to learn pieces (and as a result probably ended up with a surer grasp over them) - hope kids appreciate it now.
@MarkusFunk In my opinion the situation is a little more complex: on the net you can find everything, every record, every show, without any afford. In the past people should move to local record store, buy a lp maybe never heard... I think that the psychologic value of music is reduced in a unconscious way
@MarkusFunk i was learning guitar when i was 14 and just learnt the positions, this stalled me. ive been lucky enough to be accepted onto a top music production course despite not having taken the required music and music technology a levels. i had sampled 'you better know it' by simone for my first audition track, it was a long and stressful process rearragning/pitching the chords and i wish i had learnt theory.
you can bet as soon as my exams are over im diving straight into theory!
@MarkusFunk Because unfortunately most who learn that way end up sounding like clones of the musicians they aspire to, or end up with a technique so polished it sounds wooden & stale. Very few players combine both natural ability and musical knowledge, Guthrie Govan is a rare example. Remember that players like Wes couldn't really read music, despite coming from a musical family. Everything was done with the ears, which is why he could play Charlie Christian solos note for note.
@MetalFatigued Sorry man. I wholeheartedly disagree with just about all your points. If someone's technique is wooden or stale then the issue is not theory, it's not enough time spent developing their internal rhythm, ear, phrasing, etc. Most players nowadays that don't bother to learn theory are just being lazy, and that's OK. You don't NEED theory to become a great player, but to say you're not learning it because you're afraid it will "ruin" you is just a cop-out. Respectfully, of course ;0)
@MetalFatigued One other point, you mention that those that learn theory "end up sounding like clones of the musicians they aspire to"... so if you learn other player's music by ear rather than off a sheet this somehow frees you from this dilemma? That doesn't really make any sense as just about every player that goes to learn a piece of music does so because they have already heard it and like it. The ears compliment the knowledge and vice versa.
@MarkusFunk I'm really referring to new players. The tendency is to copy not only the sound but the way the pick is being held, the vibrato- everything.Recall the REH videos? If you liked say Paul Gilbert then you could see EXACTLY how he did everything, even advising you how much depth on the pick to leave etc. Not surprising there followed 1000s of PG clones. Which is fine, but without a visual reference, an approximation with the ears lends itself to developing your own technique far quicker
@taildragger53 I think you meant Berklee? Berkeley is a different school altogether. What makes you equate learning music theory with not experimenting? That doesn't quite make sense. Theory has nothing to do with right or wrong.. all it does is give names to the harmonic relationships of notes that reoccur in all player's music. All players learn by ear regardless of how much theory they learn and there are plenty of strictly "ear" players that don't sound very original either.
@taildragger53 Why so sensitive? We're just having a conversation. B.S. on your gifted argument. Talent is overrated. The people that are the best are the ones that combine talent with work. You can be sure the first time he picked up the guitar he didn't sound as good as he did here. No matter how gifted he was he had to put in the countless hours to develop it. That's why top athletes train so hard. If talent was all you needed you wouldn't ever have to practice.
@taildragger53 Megalomanic is a pretty big word. Did you look that up in your dictionary? Either way it's not an accurate description of what's going on here. Again, you missed my original points completely. Not my problem. I moved out of my parent's house a long time ago junior. Hopefully you'll do the same someday?
@taildragger53 Again, where does your notion that theory means you can or can't do something come from?? You're starting to sound like an internet troll. He's famous and I'm not? So what man? What does that have to do with our conversation? I'm not a professional musician so why would I be famous? I'm also alive and Wes is not ;0)
@taildragger53 I'm being a prick? I haven't insulted you once aside fron commenting that you were starting sound like a troll when you started hurling insults. I've tried to keep the debate on subject. Your just being insulting because you can't stand the fact that someone doesn't agree with your point of view is all. That's life man. Get a helmet. Haha! Have a nice day.
@taildragger53 "No, it makes no difference who agrees with me or not." - That's good. That's a healthy attitude. "Wes is a timeless GENIUS" - Agreed 110%. "Who never had/needed one guitar lesson..the facts speak for themselves." - When did I say Wes needed guitar lessons?? Furthermore, who said you need to take lessons to learn theory? Ah who cares, this is going nowhere. Have a nice day!
@taildragger53 Nope. That wasn't my point. My point was that people tend to use the fact that some great players were self taught as an excuse to never bother to investigate and learn theory themselves. In my opinion this is a lazy, incomplete approach to learning something that you love so much. We all learn to speak and most of us also learn to read. In music everyone learns to speak but not everyone learns to read. Can you be a great player without learning theory? Of course you can.
@MarkusFunk When i mention "famous"i am NOT referring to myself !
You have a problem understanding English here.
In NO way am i seeking validation...i don't NEED to . I'm happy.
You're the one seeking approval & you sound a sad bastard.
I'm giving credit to Wes, not myself ..what i think doen't matter although many jazz journalists like Orrin Keepnews and Ira Gitler have said the same thing as me. (maybe you should take it up with them although you probably haven't heard of them)
@taildragger53 I don't need your approval. You started all this animosity and I'm just having fun watching you embarrass yourself with each additional post you make. When it comes to your points about feel and emotion being more important than theory I'm not disagreeing with you kid. I agree 100%. You simply misunderstood my original comments. If you really feel like what you think doesn't matter then you'd stop replying. Keepnews was also a great producer BTW...
@taildragger53 Robots like me? So I'm a robot now because I think having a strong theoretical background in music is a good thing? OK old-timer. If you say so...
@taildragger53 From Wikipedia (pay attention to whats in capital letters): "Martin Taylor, MBE (born 20 October 1956) is a British jazz guitarist who has performed in groups, guitar ensembles and as an accompanist to many of the world’s most famous musicians. However, it is for his solo fingerstyle performances, in which he provides bass and CHORDAL accompaniment in addition to a melody, that he is most renowned". You were saying something about him not playing chords?
@taildragger53 Nope. That's not what I'm doing at all. Just because one of your idols doesn't call his chords chords doesn't mean they're not chords. It just means he conceptualizes them differently than others might and that's his right to do so. No argument here.
People stop fighting and enjoy the tune...its awesome!
synistralpsyche 6 days ago
people comparing Hendrix and Montgomery should be ashamed of themselves. Learn to understand progress, revolution, innovation. Montgomery was a great player, Hendrix was a great player. If you think praising one of them higher then others makes you a better person or your musical tastes better, you are wrong.
vekkth 1 week ago
@vekkth What planet dropped you off! Since when are people not entitled to opinions and ideas that oppose each other. Let's put it this way. Music is Art. Art can be a Masterpiece. Art can also be paint by numbers. Montgomery's work is a Masterpiece. Hendrix's work is paint by numbers all Art. OK with that?
MrGoflyers 5 days ago
@MrGoflyers this is a one nice example of hypocrisy. Again, Montgomery was an amazing guitar player, a person that shaped jazz guitar for years ahead. Hendrix did exactly the same, more for a rock music, but it doesnt matter. Music is everything, its huge, its more then your judgement, or mine, or even Hendrixes or Wes. you are trying to compare those who are the best among the musicians, you are doing a senseless job. Time will judge much better then you.
vekkth 3 days ago
This guy is the inspirational figure of all my inspirational figures. Therefore, he is my ultimate inspiration! :)
willschmidguitar 1 week ago
Great song. Amazing player. I just want to throw out there that Hendrix was very well versed in jazz and played in numerous jazz bands before he hit it big. Thanks for the upload
j5r5myk 1 week ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
Boa musica !
TheEdjc 3 weeks ago
I'm a trombonist and Wes and Pat Metheny are two of if not my favorite two jazz musicians of all time.
TromboneMasterMan 3 weeks ago
Wes doesnt play guitar.
He plays the piano on a guitar.
I honestly think he heard a piano playing something and tried to copy it.
And thats the way he approached playing from then on.
His hand moves up and down the frets like they were a piano keyboard.
Most guitarists move ACROSS the fretboard, he doesnt.
Unique.
Sadly.
twixttime 1 month ago
Eric Clapton only wishes he could play half as well as Wes.This guy was so far beyond in ability than all these so called rock guitar greats give me a break.Hendrix,Clapton,Van Halen,etc... they can,t lick this man's shoes!!
MrGoflyers 1 month ago 4
@MrGoflyers i agree, I think Wes Montgomery is the greatest guitarist of all time, i mean clapton and van halen are incredible, but Wes Montgomery is in a league of his own, no guitarist could match his amazing phrasing and time!
ectomy1235 1 month ago
@ectomy1235 since your taking about rock too, paco de lucia, john lclaughlin. are two guitarists that i think are very great too.
shimeonmorpheus 3 weeks ago
@shimeonmorpheus yeah I love john maglauglin!
ectomy1235 3 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@MrGoflyers Reading this comment has made me realize that no matter how 'cultured' somebody thinks they are, they will not give credit to anyone they see even remotely as a threat. I really hope you were just thinking of a buzzcomment to get more thumbs-ups and don't actually think that way.
VisualGP1 1 week ago in playlist Jazz
@VisualGP1 Clapton,Hendrix,etc...rock guitarist are no threat to what you just listened to and if you do then I feel sorry for you and your very "shallowed cultured world" you live in. Keep listening and playing the stuff you find entertaning that's was is best for you enjoy and all the best.
MrGoflyers 1 week ago
@MrGoflyers Well firstly, I was talking about you in response to how you think Hendrix Clapton and Van Halen "can,t lick this man's shoes!!"
You can't give them credit because you think they're a threat to your pure jazz, and that you're above it.
VisualGP1 1 week ago
@VisualGP1 an intellectual person on teh internetz. someone, call the media, he might get away.
vekkth 1 week ago
@MrGoflyers Yeah, I didn't see Master Montgomery anywhere on Rolling Stone's supposed "Best Guitarists Ever" list! Kurt Cobain and John Lennon were high on this list to! Don't get me wrong, love Nirvana, like the Beatles, but seriously, they weren't among the best guitarists ever. Wes should be number 1, even Hendrix is a lesser guitarist than Master Wes Montgomery.
willschmidguitar 1 week ago
@willschmidguitar Rolling Stone Magazine that say's it all LOL.Like getting your info on the real world fromTIME magazine! I agree with what your saying about other's it's not a competion it's art.Still some become known& popular. While other's are just flat out amazing & nobody know's they exist. Gatton,Carlton,Segovia,Williams,Green,Atkins on & on &on all the best
MrGoflyers 1 week ago
@willschmidguitar well how many people know who Wes is compared to Jimi?? rolling stone like many companies and corporation put money ahead of actual music. and besides greatest guitarists ever is tooo subjective it actually doesnt make sense for them to say who the best guitarists are because. music isnt relevant that way.
shimeonmorpheus 9 hours ago
Mind = Blown
itsdeville 2 months ago
It doesn't really get much cooler than this.
Geotubest 2 months ago
Oh meu deus!
danizappa 2 months ago
I first heard of Wes.on a radio station in Detroit, mi. in the 60s. The disc jockey tole this story. Seems Wes won the numbers game amd took his winnings and bought an electric gutiar. All his friends laughed at him as he could not play it. He learned and became one of the greats. I never forgot that story and have no idea if its true.
1956kingfish 2 months ago
Modern guitar starts with Charlie Christian and ends with...Allan Holdsworth.
Eflatmajor7sharp11 2 months ago
my mount rushmore of guitarists
Jimi
Wes
Django
Pass
mikaran63 2 months ago
(Contd) - and Django, Blackmore, Paul Gilbert, Rhandy Rhoads, Schenker, Eduardo Fernandez, Oscar Ghighlia, the Romero family, Steve Winwood, George Benson, Lukather, Rory Gallagher, Slash, Robby Krieger, Duane Allman, Berry, Robert Clay, Berry, Al di Meoloa, Paco de Lucia, Ron Wood, Keith Richards, Paul and George, Knopfler, Jeff Beck, Frusciante, Paco Pena, the Edge, Jerry Garcia, Earl Klugh, Johnny Winter, Kenny Burrell, Carlos & Ramon Montoya...please help me! No more room on Mt Rushmore! LOL
GCLwins 2 months ago in playlist Liked
@GCLwins Tony Iommi, David Gilmour, T-Bone Walker.
mikexlong 2 months ago
@mikexlong - It just goes on and on, man. Johnny Lee Hooker, Allan Holdsworth (as the gentleman after me correctly commented) - and as long as we're into prog rock, can't overlook Hackett, Steve Howe, Robert Fripp...then, Steve Morse, Eric Johnson, Jeff Healey...Brian May, Ritenour, Vai, Satriani, Kazuhito Yamashita,...and on and on and on...even Prince is an amazing guitar player....and then you have literally thousands and thousands of excellent unknown players online on Youtube, etc.
GCLwins 2 months ago
@GCLwins - And see the wonder!: even after that litany, we still managed to miss some grand old champs who can destroy on the guitar: Chet Atkins, Les Paul, John McClaughlin, Frank Zappa, Johnny Winter, Buddy Guy, Brian Jones, Mike Bloomfield, Keith Richards, Ron Wood...endless.
PS: Rolling Stone magazine has no clue on how to properly "rank" guitarists, assuming such a thing can be done to begin with. Their methodology is so sloppy and biased, it is laughable to any serious guitar player.
GCLwins 2 months ago
@GCLwins and still rory gallagher, rory gallagher, rory gallagher, rory gallagher!!
NintendoSinceBirth1 2 months ago
@GCLwins slash and frusciante can be left off the list, they sucked!!! lol
AmericanDiaz 2 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Wes Montgomery
my mount rushmore of guitarists
Jimi
Wes
Van Halen
Robert Johnson
there is no other logical choice unless you replace Rob with BB
Jackthestripper 2 months ago
@Jackthestripper - correct, thank you for including Van Halen (someone has more sense than Rolling Stone magazine) ; but I wish there was room to also include Charlie Christian, Joe Pass, Pat Methany, Scofield, Stanley Jordan, Julian Bream, Segovia, Parkening, Barrueco, Jimmy Page, Freddie King, Clapton, Malmsteen, SRV...oh Christ, there's no end to this, is there?
LOL! :-)
GCLwins 2 months ago
wow... its the first time i see this guy!! hes incredible... but he got a very strange right hand position irght??
willy1986tralara 3 months ago
@willy1986tralara It's his way of playing... You can't copy and expect the same results... and you wouldn't tell him to do it "right", cause he sounded so damn good! :)
lesmiralha 2 months ago
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jazzbrasil2010 3 months ago
9 people like justin bieber...
sueroxx1 3 months ago
You can hear where Pat Metheny got it from!
MrAmadaeus 3 months ago
Damn, Wes was brilliant - not just as a guitar player, but as a creative jazz soloist period.
wowjef 3 months ago in playlist wowjef's Favorited Videos
great video
and on the subject of theory... Theory serves mainly as a way to communicate musical ideas. It's a lot easier to say hey let's play a ii-V-I as opposed to saying here's this chord progression let me play it a few times so you can learn it. A person can be great at catching a football but if they don't know what it means to run a slant route or a curl or whatever then they wont make it very far as a receiver.
ap1027 4 months ago
@ap1027 There is a balance between theory and creativity...too much of either and their is no creation.
andmaketherain 4 months ago 3
@andmaketherain Great players -precede- theory, -then- we devise theories about how they made great music. When the next great -disregards- those theories, we'll theorize about how -he- made great music without observing those -other- theories.
lazur1 1 month ago
@lazur1 Touché...
andmaketherain 1 month ago
@andmaketherain I agree. Too much theory causes one to overthink things, imo.
ap1027 2 weeks ago
@ap1027 Agreed.
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
@ap1027 Agreed. Good analogy.
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
@MarkusFunk Thank you
ap1027 2 weeks ago
Dude, this blew my mind away......
allisone69 4 months ago in playlist allisone69's Favorited Videos
0.55-58 - classic Wes lick/run, if I am not mistaken
wowjef 4 months ago
brutal shredding at :56
MegaFlipperboy 4 months ago
That thumb is so damn fast!!!
quarentine99 4 months ago
I'm a jazz guitarist, and the octave lick at 1:40 just about makes me fall out of my chair in disbelief every time I see it.
marksmartus2 4 months ago 2
what kind of guitar is he playing?
undathebridge 4 months ago
@undathebridge gibson l-5 as far as i can see, 17-inch with a solid top
Eurobubble70 4 months ago
alguien sabe como se llama el tubo del dedo que utilizaban los guitarristas de jazz para hacer que se distorsionase el sonido de la guitarra y pareciese un muelle???? porfavor, es urgente :) graciiaaas
xandraxdemixta 5 months ago
@xandraxdemixta te estas refiriendo al "slide"? búscalo en internet, creo que te refieres a eso :)
FireFingers93 5 months ago
ジャズっていいですね～
僕は日本人ですがジャスの良さはわかります！
WesMontgomeryは最高です！
Fenderkun76 5 months ago
Pat Metheny says Wes Montgomery was his all time hero, and I can definitely hear it. Some of Wes' techniques translate directly into Pat's.
milesdavidsmith 6 months ago 2
@milesdavidsmith I think Wes' playing translates into every Jazz guitarists' playing henceforth. Hard to imagine anyone not taking from him since his arrival on the scene.
RubHerSoul1 5 months ago
I was watching people do impressions of famous people. But...looks like I'll be watching jazz videos for the rest of the night.
rixclipz 6 months ago 22
@rixclipz For the rest of your life, man. There ain't no turning back.
milesdavidsmith 6 months ago
Stop bickering kids, and just listen to Wes. The man soars. Shush... Listen.
Bobbyjoeloverod 6 months ago 3
Man,Wes was to a Gibson like what Jimi was to a Fender... Ain't no doubt about it!!!
cgptony11 6 months ago
My step dad has an old 57 gibson that looks just like that, my whole life i thought as soon as the champ croaks im selling it for top dollar, but after discovering Wes im going to guard that thing with my life now. This guy is too cool for school.
kelvinkelvin20 6 months ago
nothing but the thumb!
NFWDO 6 months ago in playlist MUSIC :WES MONTGOMERY
guitar's thelonious monk
remus1981987 7 months ago in playlist MUSIC :WES MONTGOMERY
Music can not be better.. This is Guitar playing when Jimi H, is coming up and it is as good!
jazzuffe 7 months ago
very original style
CrummyNails 7 months ago
7 people are jealous
psuman444 7 months ago
7 people have no speakers
luisguerreirohc 7 months ago
please sub
CrummyNails 7 months ago
Gold.
Horomaru 8 months ago
1:40 isnt even fair, anyone who has transcribed wes knows what im talking about
GrindOverMatter2 8 months ago 18
This is great. This is the real Wes. I love that he covered this tune; it makes me forgive him a lot of the crap pop music he recorded later on.
lexo30 8 months ago
cada nota es un orgasmoooooooo....esto es unico.
Emapsych 8 months ago
Even before John Coltrane made it his own,a tenor sax player named Rocky Boyd wrote this tune in a question form too Miles Davis tune "So What" Rocky called his tune" Why Not". Trane was more famous so the tune today is known as "Impressions". True story.Trane also tried to recurit Wes into the John Coltrane Quartet,Wes refused and went with Creed Taylor and Verve records.But as you see by this video Wes live was true to his Jazz roots in live concert..
hremdldw 8 months ago
Just saw the Deftones last night in concert. I like Wes Montgomery better.
brownjenkn 8 months ago 3
@brownjenkn
Fucking right, man
mussman717word 8 months ago
i think theory is really important as far as learning the vocabulary, but the true essence of improvisation and jazz playing is what you hear and feel in regards to the progression. or so i think .
fendergasm11 8 months ago 4
@fendergasm11 you think right. And the more you practice and the more chord scales you learn the better you can improvise. It´s like another language, maybe you go to another country and you can speak enough to not get lost but you can´t give an opìnion about for example: history. I think I made my point.
silasoldo7 6 months ago
@silasoldo7 If you are talking about the benefits of studying theory, I think Wes Montgomery is making your point right here on this video.
outsidethewall1 6 months ago
@outsidethewall1 Thank you and thank Wes.
silasoldo7 6 months ago
Wes is best. Enough said!!!!!!!!!!
Subbree 8 months ago
Jazz Guitar? Yeah this is it!!!
seth5654 8 months ago
My Golly, look at Mabern's hands - that must be a two-octaves reach!
vitesenzafine 9 months ago
never heard of Harold Mabern and Jimmy Lovelace. but....dang, they're favorited now
guitar17johnny 9 months ago
7 people are out of this world,.,., literally!
eichem77 9 months ago
Wes fans should check out one of his disciples, a very talented lady called Emily Remler, sadly also no longer with us See vid, Emily Remler - a blues.
m06een00 9 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Natural evolution of the guitarist...
1) Listen to people who you think are guitar greats..
2) Purchase a guitar, practice the riffs and think you're gonna be the next big thing....
3) Come across wes montgomery on youtube
4) Sell guitar
I've just reached stage 4
emmanuelp023 9 months ago
Wes was such a natural talent...He would encourage anybody anyway... I don't think he had a negative personality...it shows in his playing...life ...music...I am so grateful just to hear his wonderful playing...it's not a theory non theory thing...Wes had to learn his way...that was the best way for him & us...I would encourage anybody to learn as much as they can...for the love of music... and gratitude
snscymin 9 months ago
1:41 .....only Wes.
LedZeppelinisgod100 9 months ago
7 people give me a bad impression
j03yLaPasado 9 months ago 44
@j03yLaPasado of course.....
Emapsych 8 months ago
Para odios exigenets y refinados!!!
ovelonse 9 months ago
whether it was cannonball adderley, steve vai, miles davis, dizzy or bird...they all learned their theory.
even wes montgomery, though he couldn't read notes, he could nail chord charts cuz he studied voicings
blah148 9 months ago
Wes is Wes .. . .but the pianist, Harold Mabern, is very, very, very good
vscsrg 10 months ago 2
Wes is Wes .. . .but the pianist, Harold Mabern, is very, very, very good
vscsrg 10 months ago
Noone resists to Wes touch.
When he meets Trane...oh gods.
Thanks for this super moment;
xF - Rio de Janeiro
XicoFlavio 10 months ago
amazing!!!! is a big!!
rudewey 10 months ago
Learning the guitar is a never ending journey. I think the best way to learn is to just to play however you are comfortable. Django with two fingers and wes with the thumb. I use the nail of my index finger to pick and sometimes my thumb or sometimes all my fingers or sometimes a pick although i use that the least. There is no limit to what you can do and if you're ear is good the theory will come naturally.
TheJcannon0921 11 months ago
Long live Jimmy Lovelace!
Cymbalgroove 11 months ago
What I see is pure joy in playing. Look at the drummer and Wes smiling at each other. Great swinging playing here. Thanks to youtube for making all these wonderful videos available. I had discovered so many wonderful musicians here. Until about 1 year ago, all I knew about Wes's playing was "octave playing Wes". The commercially successful Wes. Then you see videos like this and it takes your breath away.
ocean4315 11 months ago
allow me to rephrase. 0:00-3:37
AHHHHHHH
LedZeppelinisgod100 1 year ago
1:15 AHHHHHHH
LedZeppelinisgod100 1 year ago
all you have to say is Wes. guitar automatically pops in your mind,,that is the silent genius of this man and his music
drnubian 1 year ago
1:27-1:55 OMG I love iT!!!!!
joi124 1 year ago
Its the god of Dorian!!!!!!!!
irockyouroll 1 year ago
i really don't get how he does those fast runs with his thumb!!
matti2906 1 year ago
dislike..\\
Joey22496 1 year ago
I heard he knew to read a little bit, but he had an amazing ear.
benson55545 1 year ago
@benson55545 Wes didn't read music nor did he practice scales. Had trouble reading chord boxes although he really didn't need to.
The man was gifted! If you get the CD 'W.M Live @ Ronnie Scott's 1965' there's a 3. min interview with him at the end done by Ike Isaacs.( who was a friend of my family) You'll be astonished at what he says.
taildragger53 1 year ago
could listen to him all day
jloch85 1 year ago
did wes know theory ?I think I heard he didn´t) if not than he has the best ear EVER
julianpardo 1 year ago
Not bothering to learn theory is fine as long as it doesn't stop you from achieving your goals musically, but it seems like too many young players these days view a lack of knowledge as something that's noble or makes the player that much more unique. To me it just seems like an excuse. With the internet you can pretty much get a world class music education via Youtube for the cost of a monthly internet connection. Why WOULDN'T you take advantage of that and get your knowledge together?
MarkusFunk 1 year ago 177
@MarkusFunk Because it ruins some people. I've seen too many kids who have theory coming out of their ass but couldn't feel the music if they even tried to. They turn into what I call jazz "clones" or "robots". I think everyone should have a basis but beyond that it's up to the person whether they want to continue or not. I've spent much of my time unlearning and I've honestly become a better musician. This is in the context of jazz though. Kids today? Yeah they should learn, no excuses.
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@slick82958 Sorry for the deletes, but I was trying to summarize. I hear what you're saying, but the problem is not the theory. Theory is knowledge and knowledge is power, so it can only enhance. What "ruins" the players you're describing is their lack of assimilating the basic ingredients of playing, like internal rhythm and feel. They then overcompensate for this lack by piling on the theoretical knowledge, which makes theory itself look like the culprit. This is just an illusion however.
MarkusFunk 1 year ago
@MarkusFunk
I always just told myself that people express themselves differently and whether their bodies decide to physically manifest emotion into gestures is different for everyone.For theory,well,I think it's pretty darn essential.There are players who don't know much of theory so they memorize where positions rather than just knowing the notes and where they are to lets say a major scale.I guess people don't play for the same reasons that a few of us might do and don't wanna go farther
pastyourhorizon 1 year ago
@MarkusFunk
very well said my man. i think too many people look at learning theory as some sort of hindrance; as if once it is learned it will forever constrict one's "creative flow". that's a crock... learning how to describe one's musical vocabulary only improves it, and makes the person more proficient at using it.
incubrian 10 months ago
@MarkusFunk Couldn't have put it better myself, wise words sir.
spoofzilla 10 months ago
@MarkusFunk - I absolutely agree with every word you wrote - why only jazz? it applies to classical, blues, ethnic music, and even rock 'n roll - the sheer volume of online musical resources at the disposal of kids growing up today is simply mind-boggling. Back when I was growing up and studying guitar, we simply did not have access to this amount of information, and had to work hard to learn pieces (and as a result probably ended up with a surer grasp over them) - hope kids appreciate it now.
pistachioguy 10 months ago
@MarkusFunk well said
rfarroc 10 months ago
@MarkusFunk totally agreed
jabp1691 9 months ago
@MarkusFunk
So true....very well said.
railcar123 8 months ago
@MarkusFunk I agree. Well at least know basic theory and all the scales and the modes
hahehetok 8 months ago
@MarkusFunk In my opinion the situation is a little more complex: on the net you can find everything, every record, every show, without any afford. In the past people should move to local record store, buy a lp maybe never heard... I think that the psychologic value of music is reduced in a unconscious way
LukeBerto 8 months ago 2
@MarkusFunk i was learning guitar when i was 14 and just learnt the positions, this stalled me. ive been lucky enough to be accepted onto a top music production course despite not having taken the required music and music technology a levels. i had sampled 'you better know it' by simone for my first audition track, it was a long and stressful process rearragning/pitching the chords and i wish i had learnt theory.
you can bet as soon as my exams are over im diving straight into theory!
manfork 7 months ago
@MarkusFunk Because unfortunately most who learn that way end up sounding like clones of the musicians they aspire to, or end up with a technique so polished it sounds wooden & stale. Very few players combine both natural ability and musical knowledge, Guthrie Govan is a rare example. Remember that players like Wes couldn't really read music, despite coming from a musical family. Everything was done with the ears, which is why he could play Charlie Christian solos note for note.
MetalFatigued 7 months ago
@MetalFatigued Sorry man. I wholeheartedly disagree with just about all your points. If someone's technique is wooden or stale then the issue is not theory, it's not enough time spent developing their internal rhythm, ear, phrasing, etc. Most players nowadays that don't bother to learn theory are just being lazy, and that's OK. You don't NEED theory to become a great player, but to say you're not learning it because you're afraid it will "ruin" you is just a cop-out. Respectfully, of course ;0)
MarkusFunk 7 months ago
@MetalFatigued One other point, you mention that those that learn theory "end up sounding like clones of the musicians they aspire to"... so if you learn other player's music by ear rather than off a sheet this somehow frees you from this dilemma? That doesn't really make any sense as just about every player that goes to learn a piece of music does so because they have already heard it and like it. The ears compliment the knowledge and vice versa.
MarkusFunk 7 months ago
@MarkusFunk I'm really referring to new players. The tendency is to copy not only the sound but the way the pick is being held, the vibrato- everything.Recall the REH videos? If you liked say Paul Gilbert then you could see EXACTLY how he did everything, even advising you how much depth on the pick to leave etc. Not surprising there followed 1000s of PG clones. Which is fine, but without a visual reference, an approximation with the ears lends itself to developing your own technique far quicker
MetalFatigued 7 months ago
@MetalFatigued
isn't it funny how it's a fan to bite your idols, when the whole reason you liked them is cause their stuff wasn't recycled?
-aesop rock
junkahmad888 7 months ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 I think you meant Berklee? Berkeley is a different school altogether. What makes you equate learning music theory with not experimenting? That doesn't quite make sense. Theory has nothing to do with right or wrong.. all it does is give names to the harmonic relationships of notes that reoccur in all player's music. All players learn by ear regardless of how much theory they learn and there are plenty of strictly "ear" players that don't sound very original either.
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 Why so sensitive? We're just having a conversation. B.S. on your gifted argument. Talent is overrated. The people that are the best are the ones that combine talent with work. You can be sure the first time he picked up the guitar he didn't sound as good as he did here. No matter how gifted he was he had to put in the countless hours to develop it. That's why top athletes train so hard. If talent was all you needed you wouldn't ever have to practice.
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 HAHA! OK troll... You win. Whatever you say man. Have a good one ;0)
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 Who said anything about winning?? You're not even making any sense now.
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 You're the one speaking of yourself in the 3rd person.. who's being delusional?? HAHA!
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 You're the one that was talking about your dad and his friends. I think you're probably the minor on this thread.
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 Megalomanic is a pretty big word. Did you look that up in your dictionary? Either way it's not an accurate description of what's going on here. Again, you missed my original points completely. Not my problem. I moved out of my parent's house a long time ago junior. Hopefully you'll do the same someday?
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 Again, where does your notion that theory means you can or can't do something come from?? You're starting to sound like an internet troll. He's famous and I'm not? So what man? What does that have to do with our conversation? I'm not a professional musician so why would I be famous? I'm also alive and Wes is not ;0)
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 I'm being a prick? I haven't insulted you once aside fron commenting that you were starting sound like a troll when you started hurling insults. I've tried to keep the debate on subject. Your just being insulting because you can't stand the fact that someone doesn't agree with your point of view is all. That's life man. Get a helmet. Haha! Have a nice day.
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 "No, it makes no difference who agrees with me or not." - That's good. That's a healthy attitude. "Wes is a timeless GENIUS" - Agreed 110%. "Who never had/needed one guitar lesson..the facts speak for themselves." - When did I say Wes needed guitar lessons?? Furthermore, who said you need to take lessons to learn theory? Ah who cares, this is going nowhere. Have a nice day!
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 Nope. That wasn't my point. My point was that people tend to use the fact that some great players were self taught as an excuse to never bother to investigate and learn theory themselves. In my opinion this is a lazy, incomplete approach to learning something that you love so much. We all learn to speak and most of us also learn to read. In music everyone learns to speak but not everyone learns to read. Can you be a great player without learning theory? Of course you can.
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 Well, the fact that you keep bringing up not being "famous" just shows who has the real ego problem here. Have a good one!
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
@MarkusFunk When i mention "famous"i am NOT referring to myself !
You have a problem understanding English here.
In NO way am i seeking validation...i don't NEED to . I'm happy.
You're the one seeking approval & you sound a sad bastard.
I'm giving credit to Wes, not myself ..what i think doen't matter although many jazz journalists like Orrin Keepnews and Ira Gitler have said the same thing as me. (maybe you should take it up with them although you probably haven't heard of them)
taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 I don't need your approval. You started all this animosity and I'm just having fun watching you embarrass yourself with each additional post you make. When it comes to your points about feel and emotion being more important than theory I'm not disagreeing with you kid. I agree 100%. You simply misunderstood my original comments. If you really feel like what you think doesn't matter then you'd stop replying. Keepnews was also a great producer BTW...
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 Robots like me? So I'm a robot now because I think having a strong theoretical background in music is a good thing? OK old-timer. If you say so...
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 Using your same logic, your opinion doesn't count either.
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 From Wikipedia (pay attention to whats in capital letters): "Martin Taylor, MBE (born 20 October 1956) is a British jazz guitarist who has performed in groups, guitar ensembles and as an accompanist to many of the world’s most famous musicians. However, it is for his solo fingerstyle performances, in which he provides bass and CHORDAL accompaniment in addition to a melody, that he is most renowned". You were saying something about him not playing chords?
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 A world re-known player who you insist "Doesn't even use chords"... You're done here kid. You've got absolutely 0 credibility left.
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago
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taildragger53 2 weeks ago
@taildragger53 Nope. That's not what I'm doing at all. Just because one of your idols doesn't call his chords chords doesn't mean they're not chords. It just means he conceptualizes them differently than others might and that's his right to do so. No argument here.
MarkusFunk 2 weeks ago