They are pretty good actually. Many Chinese styles practice in a line, so do many military drills from most countries. This is a way to practice movements and power. No one fights like that, of coarse. Hsing Yi chuan can be very practical.
@bigfatdick5000 thats why he said seemingly linear. it was originally a military martial art if you know the history. so go try it if you dont think its effective. it works if you practice long enough.
i wonder how these guys would look in a real fight.. dont they ever spare against eachother?? i bet all these fancy movements will be forgotten once they get stressed against an attacker
@electroum unfortunately i cant train this in my nearby area so no i havnt researched this particular style. i base my assumption on the fact that theres PLENTY of fancy-form videos, and none with actual sparring. and from my experience with muay thai, wing chun and MMA (those ive trained/train), things go VERY differently once you start to use the techniques in a ''real'' situation
ive never seen any evidence that these guys would actually use those movements in a fight.
@MuayThaiViking Hey, I've only started training in xingyi very recently (last time I gave up trying to find someone who taught it here, around 2002) so I can't provide much insight into that - that's why I asked if you had done much research into it, since it would help me too.
Where I train there's only one other guy learning xingyi, who has to wait for me to get up to speed so we can start a kind of sparring training that sounded like "ashengpo".
@electroum but hey, you can prove me wrong by linking some videos with actual fights or full contact sparring. that would end this upcomming discussion right away :)
@MuayThaiViking BTW I agree with you that good sparring is necessary to develop actual fighting skills, since forms can't build the mental mechanisms to actually improvise and respond to attacks. Actually it seems that there are not many forms in xingyi - the different attacks are usually practiced on their own repeatedly while moving forwards.
I saw a couple of Youtube vids of (apparently) xingyi sparring and wasn't very impressed. Will let you know in a year or two when I'm less bad ;)
@MuayThaiViking really you cant spare in xing yi to many broken bones and no there isnt any good youtube vids on xing yi most of the vids i have found have been bastard versions of xing yi mostly americans..........you hit soft spots in xing yi elbow brakes knees brakes striking the throat breaking the floating ribs and pushing the bone fragments into organs you can even make a guy bleed to death from an arm break its the first pi quan you learn and the sparring set is called An Shen Pao
@MuayThaiViking really you cant spare in xing yi to many broken bones and no there isnt any good youtube vids on xing yi most of the vids i have found have been bastard versions of xing yi mostly americans..........you hit soft spots in xing yi elbow brakes knees brakes striking the throat breaking the floating ribs and pushing the bone fragments into organs you can even make a guy bleed to death from an arm break its the first pi quan you learn and the sparring set is called An Shen Pao
@dpapaioannow I have, but only briefly. I've studied xing yi for quite a few years though, and trained and sparred with many wing chun people. I don't mean to criticise wing chun in the slightest, the two are just about as similar as a banana and a buffalo
@Nerubio yes, the movements have been deliberately linked in an order, but it's considered a major faux pax in xing yi to use the word form or to practice fixed links. unlike most Chinese martial arts free linking is the aim of of solo practice, not performing a form specific to ones lineage
@Twycross, @PathToShaolin Most of the Kung Fu masters of China escaped to Taiwan after the Cultural Revolution. Many were murdered by the Communists. You can also find excellent Kung Fu in the West where many Kung Fu masters settled and opened schools. The master in this video, from what I can see, is an excellent teacher who is teaching his students to be precise in the movements.
Xing yi....?.Xinyiba.....??.You mean that thing like in Takeshi maekawa's comic book done by chinmi because he's weight less than his opponents(in Indonesia the transalation is kung fu peremuk tulang/bone breaking kung fu)...(such as british boxer,animals..and so on..)??.Whoa...that thing still exist..??.I mean in this modern day where bodybuilding flourish...no one would take hard training regiments/badasstitude regiments like chinmi done to master it.
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@blopeep LOL U THINK a little cultrural revolution can destroy a form of art that is practiced for centruies? not to mention 99% of Chinese think cultural revolution is the most stupid period of our history, and often laughable. westerners often think kungfu is a fighting form Chinese sees it as phillosophy.
@Twycross of course they are lying when shaolin monks tell u theyre gonna teach u genuine kungfu, WHY? because they only teach genuine kungfu to their true disciple who study zen buddahsm. who also dedicate their lives mostly inside shaolin. there are only around 100 shaolin warrior monks who have the quality to learn real kungfu and i doubt u are that 100 people.
@Twycross i dont know what im talking about? my grand parents on my mom and dad's side went thorugh The Great Leap forward, and cultural revolution my grandfather was jailed for 3 days and questioned as intellectual, luckily he had served in the Korean war as a regiment commander so he was not purged. cultrual revolution NEVER destroy any cultures of China except some physical artifacts. if u go to rural China u will be amazed at how much tradition has been preserved.
@Twycross thats why Chinese kungfu CAN NOT be mastered through the internet, if u want to learn the real deal and know how to apply it in real combat then u must go to a genuine place to learn it. places like Shaolin or Wudang.
@obsidianstatue Nobody said you master it through the internet. I just dont put much faith in shaolin and wudang temples because of the cultural revolution. And I say this with having a basis in Northern Shaolin Lohan system. That was my basic training. And my main style is Xing Yi so both from either Shaolin and Wudang.
@Twycross and as i said my family has been through the 10 year long cultural revolution, and according to my 11 years in China i have to say Chinese cultures such as kungfu NEVER was effected, except physical artifacts was destroyed, also let me give u a heads up most of Chinese valuable artifacts such as the terricotta army was discovered in the 60s and 70s during the height of cultural revolution and none of them go damaged.
@Twycross westerners like u give too much credits to cutural revolution when its nothing but the red guards who actually supported the revolution, today 95% of the ccp offcials are victims of cultural revolution, in order to destroy a cultural indentity such as Kungfu u need to get the people hate kungfu, in realilty Chinese at the time dont really give a fuck about the revolution.
@obsidianstatue Nobody is saying ALL martial arts practitioners ceased to exist. But the non sense you see at 'shaolin temples' most of the time is circus acts. The whole spear in the neck thing for example is non sense. Little wavy bendy swords flashing around. Non sense.
@Twycross in the wudang temple there was a women daoist who is now around 100 years old, she has been through cultural rev. and the red guards forced her and others to stop teaching kungfu but, she continued to practice kungfu til this day. cultural revolution is an attempt by Mao to regain his lost powers in China, the destroying the old triditions are not the main objective, 10 years of turbulance can never destory something that has been there for centuries, so stop being ignorant.
@obsidianstatue zen is japanese.........why do you ppl on here always say things that are retarded.......and there are many more real monks than you stated you should check the history channel sometime
@kennhiser What? Maybe its originally from India, migrated to China and from there to Japan? I remember the Chan was started by Bodhidharma or DaMo who came from India!
@blopeep If you contact me via PM I can direct you to one around the DC area. He's a bit rough around the edges sometimes but he's a nice guy. I was extremely skeptical of him at first as I am of anyone who claims to do martial arts but from day one he showed me through simple mechanics and physics what he was teaching. No "mystical ki blasts" type non sense or fancy acrobatics.
@firedigimon99 I don't know about Xing Yi, but you have the best Wing Tsun instructor in North America in Toronto. Sifu (Carson) Lau Ka Sun. He is a 7th lvl master and he is a genuinely good man. If your interested in real martial arts, it would be a shame if you passed up the opprotunity to train with Master Lau.
Not to be too critical, but I notice that the student in white pants who starts moving from 2:00 to 2:20 or so has his spine all in the wrong alignment and his head shakes around violently with each punch. It almost gives me a headache just watching it. I thought proper spinal alignment was a foundational aspect of kung fu...?
Not to be too critical, but I notice that the student in white pants who starts moving from 2:00 to 2:20 or so has his spine all in the wrong alignment and his head shakes around violently with each punch. It almost gives me a headache just watching it. I thought proper spinal alignment was a foundational aspect of kung fu...?
@lpvine Rigid. Uses way too much muscular strength. The fist part of the movement(like loading) should be done slower and it should explode (Fa Jing) when the force goes out. Instead it's all at the same speed and there is no jing at all, it's just showing up muscles and low stances with no meaning. It looks as if they've learned it from the vids, there is little internal to it. The master's stance is ok but again, no jing, no internal.
Total respect for your conviction and hard work, it is not easy to leave all behind and go out in the serching of a dream come true, the speach it is very well adapted to the practice and the techniques from the video, I´d seen this sifu from the video dragon´s from wudang he is great. Congratulations.
hi PathtoShaolin.I would like to learn Wudang taichi quan and sword but not the kungfu styles.Since you have been there and being trained by one of the kungfu and taichi schools in Wudang Shan.plse tell me which one to your knowledge and experience there is reasonably best with dedicated that can leave a very good impression that would entice one to returm for more training.thanks if you can help.
Great quality video. I've recently started shaolin kung fu myself, but I'm really new to the kung fu world, although it's REALLY easy to see how this style originates from spear techniques. I love it mate, cheers for the upload. I'm gonna check what other videos you've uploaded now ^_^
yes you are right most of this info i got from wikipedia. i dont study xing yi quan myself and my knowledge of this particular style isnt great. so i used wikipedia because everyone seems to agree with their version of history and at the end of the day i used a free and open source website to get the info.
@PathToShaolin you should be more carefull with were you get info. although it has an exaggerated rep for misinformation, the problem with wikipedia is that the information is often to simplistic and/or fails to elaborate.
i find it funny that you have an opinion about something you have never experienced for your self. that is called hearsay.
iv spent the last 4 years in china so when you suggest that im a "naive westerner who's heads are filled of a magical east" it kind of gets my back up a bit.
Where is the hip rotation? Why are you so rigid? Why don't you keep your wrist straight when drilling upward? Why are you training standing so high up? You don't even do Xing Yi that high when fighting. When you are doing the drill and split why is the body facing straight. It should rotate one way and then the other from the hip, knees straight, to generate power. Why are hips and shoulders not aligned? Why are shoulders lurched forward when punching?
First lessons and they're already doing splitting??? I mean the teacher seems to comprehend the concepts very well but for whatever reason he's letting his students get away with very many basic mistakes. I hope you don't mind my criticism and i'm not saying i'm Yue Fei or anything. Just that if I'd do something like that i'd catch the business end of a palm to the back of my head.
i was only in wudang for a month and they started to learn while i was there so i thought i would film them. next time im there i will make a updated video. the reason i used this footage was that its the only xing yi quan footage i had. next time i will also go to shanxi province and get some footage from there aswell.
Everything except the fact that Dai Longbang was Li's teacher, it was Dai Wenxiang, a few generations later. And you forgot the Honan lineage. Other than that...
Great video and very educational. But my knees and hips hurt from watching them train on that hard stone. Why aren't they training on grass? I think it would take some of the strain off their joints and allow them to enjoy their art more.
fire nation :)
grozdanicmilos124 4 weeks ago
Great Remember I was here. Thai 8:15PM 1/20/2012
universetechnique 1 month ago
Hi,just a simple question.XingYi is credited with being an internal art so why is it availible at Shaolin which is supposed to be external arts?
jadekayak01 2 months ago
They are pretty good actually. Many Chinese styles practice in a line, so do many military drills from most countries. This is a way to practice movements and power. No one fights like that, of coarse. Hsing Yi chuan can be very practical.
TheEidolon7 3 months ago
THIS NOT XING YI LOOK AT BODY SO BAD
TaichiLiu 3 months ago
1:55 to 2+ the guy in the back is looking for a place to piss like he really wants to but knows he shouldnt :P
wakeandbakelol 4 months ago
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MMAStyleful 5 months ago
What's so good about Xingyiquan ? it's a linear style martial art.
I don't doubt its power but moving in a straight line, wonder how practical it is in adapting to the unpredictable changes in the street scenarios.
bigfatdick5000 5 months ago
@bigfatdick5000 thats why he said seemingly linear. it was originally a military martial art if you know the history. so go try it if you dont think its effective. it works if you practice long enough.
Shuukyou 4 months ago
0:16 have met you guys in the middle, at Wudangshan post office remember? greetings from Hong Kong =)
AlexCheungVlog 7 months ago
looks similar to northern praying mantis
Alien0one 8 months ago
Great video! Thanks alot!
WudangTeohari 8 months ago
i wonder how these guys would look in a real fight.. dont they ever spare against eachother?? i bet all these fancy movements will be forgotten once they get stressed against an attacker
MuayThaiViking 9 months ago
@MuayThaiViking Why would you bet? Are you just making completely random assumptions or have you done some research into this fighting style?
electroum 9 months ago
@electroum unfortunately i cant train this in my nearby area so no i havnt researched this particular style. i base my assumption on the fact that theres PLENTY of fancy-form videos, and none with actual sparring. and from my experience with muay thai, wing chun and MMA (those ive trained/train), things go VERY differently once you start to use the techniques in a ''real'' situation
ive never seen any evidence that these guys would actually use those movements in a fight.
MuayThaiViking 9 months ago
@MuayThaiViking Hey, I've only started training in xingyi very recently (last time I gave up trying to find someone who taught it here, around 2002) so I can't provide much insight into that - that's why I asked if you had done much research into it, since it would help me too.
Where I train there's only one other guy learning xingyi, who has to wait for me to get up to speed so we can start a kind of sparring training that sounded like "ashengpo".
electroum 9 months ago
@electroum but hey, you can prove me wrong by linking some videos with actual fights or full contact sparring. that would end this upcomming discussion right away :)
MuayThaiViking 9 months ago
@MuayThaiViking BTW I agree with you that good sparring is necessary to develop actual fighting skills, since forms can't build the mental mechanisms to actually improvise and respond to attacks. Actually it seems that there are not many forms in xingyi - the different attacks are usually practiced on their own repeatedly while moving forwards.
I saw a couple of Youtube vids of (apparently) xingyi sparring and wasn't very impressed. Will let you know in a year or two when I'm less bad ;)
electroum 9 months ago
@MuayThaiViking really you cant spare in xing yi to many broken bones and no there isnt any good youtube vids on xing yi most of the vids i have found have been bastard versions of xing yi mostly americans..........you hit soft spots in xing yi elbow brakes knees brakes striking the throat breaking the floating ribs and pushing the bone fragments into organs you can even make a guy bleed to death from an arm break its the first pi quan you learn and the sparring set is called An Shen Pao
unicornkilla23 8 months ago
@unicornkilla23 uuuh waaauw that sounds oooh so impressive. internal damage, broken organs, people bleeding to death, uuuuuuuuh!!!
hahaha
MuayThaiViking 8 months ago
@MuayThaiViking Just showing his ignorance.
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@MuayThaiViking really you cant spare in xing yi to many broken bones and no there isnt any good youtube vids on xing yi most of the vids i have found have been bastard versions of xing yi mostly americans..........you hit soft spots in xing yi elbow brakes knees brakes striking the throat breaking the floating ribs and pushing the bone fragments into organs you can even make a guy bleed to death from an arm break its the first pi quan you learn and the sparring set is called An Shen Pao
unicornkilla23 8 months ago
Looks different compared to xinyiliuhequan.
6arcsn1sky 11 months ago
the principals are similar to wing chun,i mean the punching step is almost exactly the same,more weight to the back leg
dpapaioannow 11 months ago
@dpapaioannow the principles actually couldn't be much further from those of wing chun
TheDarkKnightFalls 10 months ago
@TheDarkKnightFalls have you studied wing chun?
dpapaioannow 10 months ago
@dpapaioannow I have, but only briefly. I've studied xing yi for quite a few years though, and trained and sparred with many wing chun people. I don't mean to criticise wing chun in the slightest, the two are just about as similar as a banana and a buffalo
TheDarkKnightFalls 10 months ago
What's the name of the form they're practising?
Nerubio 1 year ago
@Nerubio there are no forms in xing yi, only individual xing which can be linked into non-permanent "links"
TheDarkKnightFalls 10 months ago
@Nerubio there are no forms in xing yi, that's a very important principle of the art
TheDarkKnightFalls 10 months ago
@TheDarkKnightFalls Nonetheless, they are practising a set pattern of movements, aren't they?
Nerubio 10 months ago
@Nerubio yes, the movements have been deliberately linked in an order, but it's considered a major faux pax in xing yi to use the word form or to practice fixed links. unlike most Chinese martial arts free linking is the aim of of solo practice, not performing a form specific to ones lineage
TheDarkKnightFalls 10 months ago
How do you spell the masters website address?
Thanx
samshawphotography 1 year ago
@Twycross, @PathToShaolin Most of the Kung Fu masters of China escaped to Taiwan after the Cultural Revolution. Many were murdered by the Communists. You can also find excellent Kung Fu in the West where many Kung Fu masters settled and opened schools. The master in this video, from what I can see, is an excellent teacher who is teaching his students to be precise in the movements.
FightPhysics 1 year ago
@LeCoq88 lol, noticed that too
misterkami2 1 year ago
Xingyiquan is a beautiful style
OrlyDudeGuy 1 year ago
Xing yi....?.Xinyiba.....??.You mean that thing like in Takeshi maekawa's comic book done by chinmi because he's weight less than his opponents(in Indonesia the transalation is kung fu peremuk tulang/bone breaking kung fu)...(such as british boxer,animals..and so on..)??.Whoa...that thing still exist..??.I mean in this modern day where bodybuilding flourish...no one would take hard training regiments/badasstitude regiments like chinmi done to master it.
123udang 1 year ago
Mr. Wang defeating Japanese Judo Mr. Sawai Kenichi(founder of taikiken...japanese version of yiquan kung fu) long time ago
123udang 1 year ago
is long hair required before we can learn this martial art?
PEBHMONGdotCOM 1 year ago
wo kuei leng liang yeh yen lao quan nah scheng fu li xia ming tien fu kuang yeh chi hai kyang keo dao chen xiang yong schang biao hui chi hai
alekx58 1 year ago
definitely one of the better chinese martial arts. seems very powerful.
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JONSIELXD 1 year ago
I guess you can say what you like about Chinese Martial arts but Master Yuan looks convincing enough to me.
simozonelayer 1 year ago
@blopeep LOL U THINK a little cultrural revolution can destroy a form of art that is practiced for centruies? not to mention 99% of Chinese think cultural revolution is the most stupid period of our history, and often laughable. westerners often think kungfu is a fighting form Chinese sees it as phillosophy.
obsidianstatue 1 year ago
@Twycross of course they are lying when shaolin monks tell u theyre gonna teach u genuine kungfu, WHY? because they only teach genuine kungfu to their true disciple who study zen buddahsm. who also dedicate their lives mostly inside shaolin. there are only around 100 shaolin warrior monks who have the quality to learn real kungfu and i doubt u are that 100 people.
obsidianstatue 1 year ago
@obsidianstatue No, more because the cultural revolution did away with a lot of that. You don't know what you're talking about.
Twycross 1 year ago
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obsidianstatue 1 year ago
@Twycross i dont know what im talking about? my grand parents on my mom and dad's side went thorugh The Great Leap forward, and cultural revolution my grandfather was jailed for 3 days and questioned as intellectual, luckily he had served in the Korean war as a regiment commander so he was not purged. cultrual revolution NEVER destroy any cultures of China except some physical artifacts. if u go to rural China u will be amazed at how much tradition has been preserved.
obsidianstatue 1 year ago
@obsidianstatue My point is that much of what is publically shown and practiced is flowery dance routines.
Twycross 1 year ago
@Twycross thats why Chinese kungfu CAN NOT be mastered through the internet, if u want to learn the real deal and know how to apply it in real combat then u must go to a genuine place to learn it. places like Shaolin or Wudang.
obsidianstatue 1 year ago
@obsidianstatue Nobody said you master it through the internet. I just dont put much faith in shaolin and wudang temples because of the cultural revolution. And I say this with having a basis in Northern Shaolin Lohan system. That was my basic training. And my main style is Xing Yi so both from either Shaolin and Wudang.
Twycross 1 year ago
@Twycross and as i said my family has been through the 10 year long cultural revolution, and according to my 11 years in China i have to say Chinese cultures such as kungfu NEVER was effected, except physical artifacts was destroyed, also let me give u a heads up most of Chinese valuable artifacts such as the terricotta army was discovered in the 60s and 70s during the height of cultural revolution and none of them go damaged.
obsidianstatue 1 year ago
@Twycross westerners like u give too much credits to cutural revolution when its nothing but the red guards who actually supported the revolution, today 95% of the ccp offcials are victims of cultural revolution, in order to destroy a cultural indentity such as Kungfu u need to get the people hate kungfu, in realilty Chinese at the time dont really give a fuck about the revolution.
obsidianstatue 1 year ago
@obsidianstatue Nobody is saying ALL martial arts practitioners ceased to exist. But the non sense you see at 'shaolin temples' most of the time is circus acts. The whole spear in the neck thing for example is non sense. Little wavy bendy swords flashing around. Non sense.
Twycross 1 year ago
@Twycross so finally u do addmit realy kungfu never died. good have a nice day
obsidianstatue 1 year ago
@obsidianstatue I never said it did....
Twycross 1 year ago
@Twycross in the wudang temple there was a women daoist who is now around 100 years old, she has been through cultural rev. and the red guards forced her and others to stop teaching kungfu but, she continued to practice kungfu til this day. cultural revolution is an attempt by Mao to regain his lost powers in China, the destroying the old triditions are not the main objective, 10 years of turbulance can never destory something that has been there for centuries, so stop being ignorant.
obsidianstatue 1 year ago
@obsidianstatue zen is japanese.........why do you ppl on here always say things that are retarded.......and there are many more real monks than you stated you should check the history channel sometime
unicornkilla23 8 months ago
@unicornkilla23 umm, educate yourself. Zen, or as originally called in China: Chan, is in fact from China. It then migrated to Japan and Korea, etc.
kennhiser 8 months ago
@kennhiser What? Maybe its originally from India, migrated to China and from there to Japan? I remember the Chan was started by Bodhidharma or DaMo who came from India!
ekkenaab 2 months ago
@blopeep If you contact me via PM I can direct you to one around the DC area. He's a bit rough around the edges sometimes but he's a nice guy. I was extremely skeptical of him at first as I am of anyone who claims to do martial arts but from day one he showed me through simple mechanics and physics what he was teaching. No "mystical ki blasts" type non sense or fancy acrobatics.
Twycross 1 year ago
Hey, just checked out a couple of your vids and your site. pretty cool stuff.
mattcook1000 1 year ago
@mattcook1000 thanks :)
PathToShaolin 1 year ago
@PathToShaolin I subbed you I like you video's and website!
Oh do you know if there is any classes in Xing Yi Quan in Canada Toronto?
firedigimon99 1 year ago
@firedigimon99 thanks for subscribing. sorry i dont know of any classes in Canada. but thanks for subscribing :)
PathToShaolin 1 year ago
@PathToShaolin It's okay! but do you know any snake style classes in Toronto? Ha ha
firedigimon99 1 year ago
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PathToShaolin 1 year ago
Thanks, this video is awesome!
It's cool to see what we've done in class is the same as what these people are practicing.
Though I must admit, they are far better than I am at it.
Clinterus 1 year ago
@firedigimon99 I don't know about Xing Yi, but you have the best Wing Tsun instructor in North America in Toronto. Sifu (Carson) Lau Ka Sun. He is a 7th lvl master and he is a genuinely good man. If your interested in real martial arts, it would be a shame if you passed up the opprotunity to train with Master Lau.
GUFF21 1 year ago
Thanks for posting... very educational.
ApplianceWorks 1 year ago
look at the blonde gay guy!!! hahahaha!!
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Not to be too critical, but I notice that the student in white pants who starts moving from 2:00 to 2:20 or so has his spine all in the wrong alignment and his head shakes around violently with each punch. It almost gives me a headache just watching it. I thought proper spinal alignment was a foundational aspect of kung fu...?
lpvine 1 year ago
Not to be too critical, but I notice that the student in white pants who starts moving from 2:00 to 2:20 or so has his spine all in the wrong alignment and his head shakes around violently with each punch. It almost gives me a headache just watching it. I thought proper spinal alignment was a foundational aspect of kung fu...?
lpvine 1 year ago
@lpvine Infact mate, most of what they're doing is wrong. Looks like a shaolin monk wannabe who's seen xing yi on TV and is trying to copy it..
INDUSTRIAL3X 1 year ago
@INDUSTRIAL3X Here is an interesting question, then: what, specifically, is incorrect about this demonstration of xingyi?
lpvine 1 year ago
@lpvine Rigid. Uses way too much muscular strength. The fist part of the movement(like loading) should be done slower and it should explode (Fa Jing) when the force goes out. Instead it's all at the same speed and there is no jing at all, it's just showing up muscles and low stances with no meaning. It looks as if they've learned it from the vids, there is little internal to it. The master's stance is ok but again, no jing, no internal.
INDUSTRIAL3X 1 year ago
@lpvine I was watching this guy(don't know him but) he's doing a great job at it.
watch?v=iQZ3xn-UmjI&feature=related
Can you see what I mean?
INDUSTRIAL3X 1 year ago
como molaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mustainelee 1 year ago
Total respect for your conviction and hard work, it is not easy to leave all behind and go out in the serching of a dream come true, the speach it is very well adapted to the practice and the techniques from the video, I´d seen this sifu from the video dragon´s from wudang he is great. Congratulations.
hungkuenmty 1 year ago
NICE....
GAURIKLIM3 1 year ago
the caucasian guy in teh blue/gray sweats look deutch or of germanic origin
kaindrg 2 years ago
hi PathtoShaolin.I would like to learn Wudang taichi quan and sword but not the kungfu styles.Since you have been there and being trained by one of the kungfu and taichi schools in Wudang Shan.plse tell me which one to your knowledge and experience there is reasonably best with dedicated that can leave a very good impression that would entice one to returm for more training.thanks if you can help.
TaichiTalk 2 years ago
thank you
kwansao 2 years ago
Great quality video. I've recently started shaolin kung fu myself, but I'm really new to the kung fu world, although it's REALLY easy to see how this style originates from spear techniques. I love it mate, cheers for the upload. I'm gonna check what other videos you've uploaded now ^_^
cik105 2 years ago
nice video thanks, only thing i can comment is that alot of your chinese pronounciation is incorrect.
ukguy 2 years ago
yes you are right most of this info i got from wikipedia. i dont study xing yi quan myself and my knowledge of this particular style isnt great. so i used wikipedia because everyone seems to agree with their version of history and at the end of the day i used a free and open source website to get the info.
PathToShaolin 2 years ago
@PathToShaolin you should be more carefull with were you get info. although it has an exaggerated rep for misinformation, the problem with wikipedia is that the information is often to simplistic and/or fails to elaborate.
TheLordkorv 1 year ago
@TheLordkorv this is a fare point and i will try and find more info in the future thanks for watching and commenting.
PathToShaolin 1 year ago
@TheLordkorv This is a fare point. i will try and find more info in the future. thanks for watching and commenting on my vids.
PathToShaolin 1 year ago
i find it funny that you have an opinion about something you have never experienced for your self. that is called hearsay.
iv spent the last 4 years in china so when you suggest that im a "naive westerner who's heads are filled of a magical east" it kind of gets my back up a bit.
PathToShaolin 2 years ago
cool video.
blacktaoist 2 years ago
have you trained in china?
PathToShaolin 2 years ago
@PathToShaolin
No.
Twycross 2 years ago
so i guess you can keep wondering....
PathToShaolin 2 years ago 5
@PathToShaolin
Or I can know a bit of history and trained with enough people who have been to China to know the difference.
Twycross 2 years ago 4
Where is the hip rotation? Why are you so rigid? Why don't you keep your wrist straight when drilling upward? Why are you training standing so high up? You don't even do Xing Yi that high when fighting. When you are doing the drill and split why is the body facing straight. It should rotate one way and then the other from the hip, knees straight, to generate power. Why are hips and shoulders not aligned? Why are shoulders lurched forward when punching?
The teacher is pretty good though.
Twycross 2 years ago
it was one of there first lessons so im guessing that might answer your questions.
PathToShaolin 2 years ago
@PathToShaolin
First lessons and they're already doing splitting??? I mean the teacher seems to comprehend the concepts very well but for whatever reason he's letting his students get away with very many basic mistakes. I hope you don't mind my criticism and i'm not saying i'm Yue Fei or anything. Just that if I'd do something like that i'd catch the business end of a palm to the back of my head.
Twycross 2 years ago
i was only in wudang for a month and they started to learn while i was there so i thought i would film them. next time im there i will make a updated video. the reason i used this footage was that its the only xing yi quan footage i had. next time i will also go to shanxi province and get some footage from there aswell.
PathToShaolin 2 years ago
i agree with everything you just said.
randyds5 2 years ago 2
Everything except the fact that Dai Longbang was Li's teacher, it was Dai Wenxiang, a few generations later. And you forgot the Honan lineage. Other than that...
TaoOfTheFist 2 years ago
Nice and thx for sharing this video. The history background seems to be very interesting =)
XingYi is a great fighting art and very dangerouse.
chlifa 2 years ago 2
Great video and very educational. But my knees and hips hurt from watching them train on that hard stone. Why aren't they training on grass? I think it would take some of the strain off their joints and allow them to enjoy their art more.
tampasifu 2 years ago
very nice straight forward short documentary. excellent methodology by master Yuan Xiugang and students. 5 stars from masteringwushu . com
masteringwushu 2 years ago
Thank you very much :)
PathToShaolin 2 years ago