Also, any deniers engaging in "Spiritual Warfare", meaning "lying about something when one thinks you're not entitled to the truth." We know all about that and can see how transparent you are when you lie for the WTS as your "Mother Organization".
Funny these naysayers and deniers. The William Sisters are in fact 100% Prime JWs as well as Prince. Michael Jackson was one, kicked into the curb for making the Thriller video, despite of millions donated to the WTS. Where's the love? Shunning practices when one is disfellowshipped. The NATO/UGO scandal, Protecting Pedophiles, over 100 years of False Prophecies, the list just goes on and on and on and you're dumb/gullible enough to believe their "New Light" explanations.
Anyone can say "I'm one of Jehovah's WItnesses". But unlike other religions, you are not considered a member, nor are you counted if your actions do not allow you to engage in the door to door ministry. Otherwise, JW's would have a membership of about 24 million instead of 7 million.
They are most definitely ... disqualified from the door to door ministry.
@AirelonTrading They are Jehovah's Witnesses and you would rather tell a lie to deny this being the hypocrite that you are. Serena and Venus Williams are devoted Witnesses and they do go door to door. You already know this hypocrite! Just like Prince is also a JW. Are you going to deny that Judge Rutherford was a JW simply because he lived as a wealthy alcoholic committing adultery in his Beth Sarim mansion? Your self righteous cult is a lie just like your comment was a lie.
i used ton be a jw, in italy and in my kingdomhal, i got lots of problems because i used to go with jeans, and i see all those people in the wrong way of living,according the bible.
@clevelandshero23 quote from Serena: "There is another source of Serena's psychological strength: her religion. All the Williams girls were brought up as JWs and all of them, she tells me, remain devoted to their faith. (Serena even goes door to door when she has time.) Not only that, but their best friends are Witnesses too. 'It's fun,' Serena explains of this arrangement, 'because you get to relate to somebody and at the same time you know you're not going to be living a promiscuous life."
While I agree that some of the celebrities who are witnesses are bringing reproach..they are no different than those who do it within the congregation and are not famous..sin is sin..and we should not idolize any man or woman..but direct our worship to Jehovah. those within the congregation will be judged also..for ALL will stand before Jehovah!
How did Serena's naked ass turn this into a talk about Jehovah's name?...I never heard of any superstars get into any trouble for their life styles, the Faithful lying slave reserved that for low rank & file who have no names or faces.
Yes, Serena Williams IS NO JEHOVAH WITNESS, just my her conduct, dress, morals, greed and lust of fame and glory OF THE WORLD. What good christian do you know would expose oneself like Serena Williams does at 2:59 - 3:13 on this video? This is only one of many images of her sexually exposing herself. She only gives and others like her a bad name to JEHOVAH and good moral Jehovah's Witnessess.
they choose popularity than god!jws treat everyone equal,and thats the governing body are always encouraging the organization,to be in between,not biased ,not one sided and no favoritism.show love to evryone,after all we are juz gods creation,and no one is powerful than him..so why,you make your self involve in such thing?do you think that voting is what really want us to do?to choose one and hate one,to praise other,and trush other?is that you guys are happy to do?
let me ask you too,if you found someone whom evrything your looking is in him or her,who makes your heart fully satisfied and and that you know you cant live without,would you still look for others?
No, but at the same time, if my one and only cheated on me, lied and left me miserable, why would I stay?
As it's self evident with the WT, they lied. Kind like your analogy, everything was fine in the beginning, but then when one finds out about the deceit, the organization is nothing more than a harlot.
The fear erodes and you move on. From the many changes in the generation meaning, to changes in the blood doctrine, it's a relationship based on lies.
cheated?are they cheated you?y you afraid?they are not vampire,they wont kill you.they are juz studying to make their spiritual active, to love one another,affection,and understand each other and respect one another..and above all to love God and do his righteousness
I simple played along, exposing how flawed your logic is.
I love your cult like love bombing approaching, ignoring how not loving your god is with the scriptures listed. I'm not afraid, but it seems you don't want to address the changed doctrines, false dates and disgusting book that laid the foundation for your religion, the bible.
things that can be seen is temporary,but things unseen means everlasting.its easy to honor human than God,because human can be seen while God is invisible.its williams sisters choice to get trap by satans snare!people give easily an honor to them,than Jehovah,which people even make fun of his name
Every time JWs condem Christiandom and blasphem the Catholic church, they are making fun of the name Jehovah, which originated with these forces. The name Jehovah is afiliated Israel, genocide, terror, control, and greed.
Influential celebrities like Michael Jackson, the Williams sisters, Prince, etc. are used by the JW elite to legitimize its strict laws which do not allow people to vote, get a higher education. Instead it encourages them to be passive.
dont jump into conclusion,if you dont really know the truth!you juz base your comment through those heresays..those,people you mention are old enough to understand.and jw'sdidnt used them.they hav their own choice,and free to make their own decession.jw's only follow solely in the bible.
"Don't jump to conclusions if you don't really know the truth"? I thought the truth was; JWs not abiding by the beliefs of the Watchtower was grounds for disfellowshipping and being shunned by friends and family members? Have the Gov body changed that policy? If so, they finally grew a heart and a conscious.
i encourage you to think and realize,that if let say,you went for a competition or your running for a president,you investing all your money,effort and to advertise your candidacy,your even praying hard to win the said competition,and your rival also do the same way like you do,which prayer you think God will listen?and who you think he will be sided?since both of you are his creations and both of you he love?
Anyone with common sense realizes that a FAMOUS celebrity making such a statement as: "I won't vote for him because Jehovah's Witnesses "don't get involved in politics"... will have a POWERFUL impact on influencing the masses to legitimize the Watchtower's agenda. Please tell me the Watchtower is not affiliated with reversing voting rights legislation and freedom of education. PLEASE TELL ME THAT.
jws is always neutral.think of it,jws can vote if they want to..no one in the organization if they will vote secretly.i dont think so,that after the votation,they will reveal the names of the voter.but why,jws juz cant?its becos,it love who moves them not to vote!
Please tell me, how many millions of people do Zionists no longer have to worry about becoming educated or voting -- thanks to the Watchtower? Is it 7.1 million world wide (not counting the JW Elite Gov body attorneys and secret members of the UN)? WOW, if I didn't know any better, I would say religion is pretty successful in governing populations.
so,you think you know better than jws who trully their belief is??thats why you come up with such an arrogant conclusion?dont you know,that there is alot alot alot more talented and intillegent jws?you know why?coz god bless them so much wisdom,and inteligence to use their intelligence in understanding his will and his words,so they can also share it to others as what really gods will,but some are juz weak enough and get into satans trap!
That article never mentioned that we should avoid it completely, in some cases a degree is beneficial to us in order to earn enough money to live on by working less hours. Ever wondered why at University you gain a "degree" or a "masters" ?? ever thought of the deep link to freemasonry
At the KH, the young ones are discouraged from seeking a higher education. Zion's Watchtower has found a clever way to reverse voting rights legislation and freedom of education via MC & consciousness. As far as freemasonry, ever heard of Zion's Watchtower Society or Governing Body? Just look at the roots of the Russell family and the Watchtower.
you are full of lies,and make up story..i guess you can be a writer in tabloid.you have so many things to say,but nothing is real.did you really ever sit down and had a whole study with them?
"The pursuit of a higher education can become a crafty act of the devil". Having an elder, Circuit Overseer, etc., making a statement like that will have what kind of impact on JW children??
I do public talks, proclaim God's kingdom and worship Jehovah God. Never once would I discourage anyone from further education and neither would anyone I know in my congregation. I am aware of past written comments in magazines, I am also aware of the zion's watchtower society most brothers know all about the history. We made errors and have corrected them in due time.
It is absolutely down to an individual whether or not they deem it appropriate to go to University. A degree at University can be extremely beneficial, in some cases it can be a bad case of association if you get mixed up in the clubbing and drinking too much. Again it's up to the individual
While watching your video, satan came and gave me the desire to get an higher education. He told me that minimum wage won't carry me until retirement. I shouted Jehovah's name 5 times before he went away.
Lol...... HOW DARE YOU? You good for nothing slave!!! Just who do YOU think you are to try to improve your economic and educational status? Jehovah's faithful servants must wait on god's kingdumb to arrive with it's promised paradise.
Do you mean they do prohibit voting? The WT's main objective is to take away an individual's basic freedom. And they use celebrity clout to influence and legitimize the cause.
Well.. you know the WT is crafty with their wording of things. They try to make it seem as though it's your choice and free will, when in fact they have gotten inside your mind having you believe that God himself prohibits voting. I think the WT would be too clever to come right out and say they prohibit voting. The word "discourage" would be more safe & politically correct for them.
I dunno, I was always taught that we weren't allowed to vote. I was never told it was a conscience issue or that it was a personal decision; I was always taught we were not allowed to. In fact my mom used to tell me the reason my dad wouldn't become a JW was because he wouldn't be allowed to vote any more.
In fact the Elder book says those doing so would be considered disassociating themselves and treated as disfellowshipped(p 140).
On the other hand, the Nov 1 1999 Watchtower states that it's an individual conscience issue... tbh this is the very first time I've ever heard such a thing. All the quotes I've looked up so far, before this issue, stated that JWs cannot vote. So this must be New Light(hooray!).
Hell my mom wouldn't take a pencil from my grandmother because it was given to her by a politician during election time!
Granted, news reporters are known for misinterpreting info. However the Watchtower wanting to portray an image of promoting free will would have the public believe it's a matter of conscious -- when in fact their mind programming techniques, and as you say, the elder's book along with the threat of disfellowshipping will have parents interpret the guidance to their children as it is prohibited. The violent threat of Armageddon will always whip that conscious in shape.
Well yeah, we know they lie to the public. We've seen them lie in court and say blood transfusions are not prohibited, among other things. So I wasn't trying to say the newspaper article was lying deliberately, just that that statement was not altogether correct.
If you can be disfellowshipped for it, then it's clearly prohibited. Saying it's a "conscience matter" but you'll be disfellowshipped is like saying any of their prohibited activities are conscience matters.
God is holy,therefore his organization must also holy.if one of the member make mistakes, who bring mess in jehovahs holy organization,then he will be under a diciplinary action.juz like a father,who scold his son if his son make mistake.but it doesnt mean that they cant forgive,if the member who is being shuned is sincere in their heart,as god is forgiuving they have posibilities to be reinstated
God's a lot of things! But since you're already convinced that people who bring up points against the wt are "full of lies", I'll source form the horse's mouth. More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT) Kill Men, Women, and Children
No matter how you wanna spin it, I agree, your god is a lot of things.
matthew 7:15,jesus said be careful of false prophets.they come to you looking gentle like sheep,but they actually dangerous like wolves,matthew 7:21not evryone calls me lord ,lord will enter the kingdom of heaven,but only those who do what my father in heaven wants them to do
Ok, so you choose to cherry pick more bible verses and ignore what anyone else is saying.
Randomly quoting scripture and paralleling with your beliefs does not make you right.
It's funny, that very verse can be applied to your organization from the 1914, 1918, 1925, 1941 and 1975 dates that WT called as dates that end of the world would come.
matthew 7:17,18 a good tree produces good fruit,and bad tree producesbad fruit and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit. and,consider the 3 good fruits that the bible says that can identify good tree!1st:high moral standards 2nd:brotherly love 3rdP:respect for gods word..this 3 is essential in identifying,the good religion
Jeez, you love to bounce and avoid the issues. Actually, it's your civic duty and your right to choose if you want to vote. Don't see how it has anything to do with brotherly love, but somehow you throwing in the mix.
Do you think it's "brotherly love" to go through shunning process for disagree with the WT, i.e. disfellowshipping?
What would happen to a JW member who questioned doctrine of the WT?
Do you think it's brotherly love of killing 6 billion people who are not JWs?
You see, to me it doesn't matter. If the views of my father conflict with mine, I'm not voting for him, lol. Plain and simple.
Even though the bible is clearly vague on so many freaking issues that basically spawn literally 1000's of interpretations, there is no clear defining law as one can't vote.
Jesus said give Caesar's things to Caesar and god's things to god.
Doesn't say you can't vote for a proposition or your town leader. I don't worship those in public service, LOL.
i will share with you,john 6:15..after jesus do the preaching and he perform miracles and wanted him to involved in local pilitics,to make him a king by force,he withdraw again to a mountain by himself.and when jesus pray to god about the disciples he said:john 17:14,i have given them your word,and the world hated them because they do not belong to the world,just as i do not belong to the world..
have you really read and understand the whole scripture as what you quoted in the previous?or your juz picking it and makes it another about it?i encourage you to read carefully and understand it will..bible,is either,literal or symbolical..so,you need help?you want to set down and study about it?
Even at the congregational level, the everyday rank and file JW who have some sort of clout, whether it's money or influence overall, do not adhere to the same principals as your lower rank or less privileged jws.
No different than any other religion or club. But the difference is, they pride themselves as being no part of the world and you would know them for their "fruits". So far, seems to be a basket of rotten apples.
think of it! isnt that the father is the head of the family?and the wife must respect the husband?of course,not the firstimer can lead over the pioneer...
Look man, you've already establish yourself as being WT zealot and your type come and go on youtube.
You'll find it's impossible to mass a rebuttal against documented proof of the WT LIES, start blocking apostates and approving comments on your youtube page cause you don't want to face the facts.
I've seen it a DOZENS AND DOZENS of times.
Anyone want to wager how long this one is going to last?
mass media,journalist,or whoever,they can write anything they wanna say,and can manipulate peoples mentality,coz people are more interested to hear what is wrong than right.you hear so many times,and you juz hear it,still you havent find for yourself
And what has your religion been doing for the past 120 years? Pointing out what is wrong with other religion and then labeling them as false!
But yet, it doesn't apply to your religion? Even though the many doctrinal changes over the years and false dates has categorized them in the same group, it's somehow the media's fault?
If that's the attitude we should have, then why scrutinize anything?
pls refer to matthew 7:13,14.go in through the narrow gate,because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction,and many are ones going in through it,whereas narrow is the gate that leads to life and only few find it.
remember in noah's time.people are juz laughing and even call him crazy..in time of jesus..people,are even teasing him,accusing him,even his own relatives..thats,why am not wondering why,and am not surprise if you said like that
Noah the mythological flood hero myth rooted from paganism. You are the repeated - broken record of Christendom. What Christian does not blindly use that same quote? We learned that same old story in Sunday school before we even heard of Jehovah's Witnesses.
you will repeatedly hear it becos that is a real story that happen long ago.and whereby,you can learn lesson from it..thats why,i encourage you to read the bible over and over again,as it also helpful guide for our daily life
Which proves that JWs actually are a part of the world. In particular, the world of Christiandom. Why? Because they ritually recite & believe in the same biblical pagan myths that other Christian religions do like Catholics, Baptists, etc.
Unbelievable there is no doctrine taught remotely similar to that of the catholic or baptist faith thankfully, the doctrine of the JW's is truth you can talk about errors and mistaken predictions but what is important is what the Bible says and we stick to it now more than ever.
We learned the same stories in Sunday school about Adam & Eve, Noah & the flood, Moses, Jesus, etc. even before I ever heard of the JW religion. As a matter of fact, if you visit other Christian churches, you hear them praising God's name as Jehovah (which they did before the invention of the JW religion). Religion likes to argue at one another and compete, but they all are saying the same thing.
Of course most of christendom know the name of Jehovah we don't expect to be the only ones that do. We were formed in the late 1800's so how could we be the only ones..... we couldn't
The name is a product of Christendom, they pray to the same God that you pray to, and they all worship the same God. He's authenticated by the Catholic bible.
We do not pray to the same God, it's an insult. Do you see a God of Love in the Catholic Church? All I see is a god of hypocrisy therefore a false one. They use the name of Yaweh which has recently been prohibited
The name Jehovah was established by the the Catholic church and it is recognized by Christendom. JWs are not allowed to visit other churches, but if they were to visit them, they will see them praise Jehovah the same way you do. They do worship the same wrathful, jealous God who threatens to destroy anyone who does not worship him.
The name was not established by them but is a transliteration from the original Hebrew that's the fact. JW's are allowed to visit wherever they wish I am a JW and I recently attended a mormon church, before that I visited a protestant. We all have our own choices so please don't make us out to be what we're not without knowing the truth. Every God will destroy those who turn away from him
That transliteration was given to us by a Roman Catholic monk. "Every God will destroy those who turn away from him." Would you destroy your child for turning away from you?? False gods suck!!!
The divine name is the divine name, there is no other. God will only destroy the wicked, not the righteous. And it's in his hands not ours, none of us know what the future will bring
The first known attempt to render the so called divine name into a modern language was in 1278 by Raymundo Martini, a Spanish monk of "Babylon the Great".
When I was a JW, we were told not to enter into any other religious facility outside the JW org., as they were alleged to be under Satan's influenc & destined to being destroyed by God. They must have become more lenient nowadays.
Absolutely, but then it does depend on the congregation. An elder and presiding overseer told me that he recently visited Cathedrals and Churches in France and said how beautiful they were, The thing that is prohibited is studying with them and practicing the doctrine of other faiths. Which is understandable as it's normally classed as apostasy in religion
The name Jehovah is recognized by everyone because it is God's name. We are allowed to visit other churches it's up to us what we do. He's a God of Love and patience, how do you know who he will destroy?
Here are the pagan roots of your so called god of love: In 1519 Petrus Galatanus, a scholar, priest, and confessor of Pope Leo X, spelled the name Iehouah, which when written in the early roman script looked like Jehovah. In 1530 William Tynadale produced the first English translation of a portion of the bible and the following Galatnus he rendered the Tetragrammaton JEHOVAH in all caps.
fank 'god' that martin luther king and obama were not and are not JWs - they never would've cared about 'Us' - non JWs, like the MJ song 'They Don't Care About Us" JWs are like disloyal to their humankind and have traitorously chosen an alien invader and overlord over their fellow man and woman. Like a Genocide doctrine. It is such an obvious fabricated kitsch low IQ religion that uses cartoons and standover methods to 'turn' uneducated into meaningless shells of people.
JWs are like the poor man's Scientologists or the white trash cousins of mormons. Prince is way gay and his marriage and wife's pregnancy was a sham to stop his outing. But can fatal for bigger celebs like JW to publicly leave the WO. I'm sure MJ loathed JWism in his own end days. Great vid!
Lol, another gay cover-up marriage? That reminds me of yrs ago when MJ was set up on stage to kiss his girlfriend or fiance in effort to change his image of being attracted to boys. Lol, you could plainly see that kissing a woman wasn't natural for him.
Being a VIP member of the JW Elite automatically appoints one to the status of Annointedhood. So to answer your question, YES, I get to partake of the cracker/flesh & wine/blood ritual.
Also, any deniers engaging in "Spiritual Warfare", meaning "lying about something when one thinks you're not entitled to the truth." We know all about that and can see how transparent you are when you lie for the WTS as your "Mother Organization".
TheYizuman 2 weeks ago
Funny these naysayers and deniers. The William Sisters are in fact 100% Prime JWs as well as Prince. Michael Jackson was one, kicked into the curb for making the Thriller video, despite of millions donated to the WTS. Where's the love? Shunning practices when one is disfellowshipped. The NATO/UGO scandal, Protecting Pedophiles, over 100 years of False Prophecies, the list just goes on and on and on and you're dumb/gullible enough to believe their "New Light" explanations.
TheYizuman 2 weeks ago
They are not Jehovah's Witnesses.
Anyone can say "I'm one of Jehovah's WItnesses". But unlike other religions, you are not considered a member, nor are you counted if your actions do not allow you to engage in the door to door ministry. Otherwise, JW's would have a membership of about 24 million instead of 7 million.
They are most definitely ... disqualified from the door to door ministry.
This is just apostate babbeling ...
AirelonTrading 11 months ago
@AirelonTrading They are Jehovah's Witnesses and you would rather tell a lie to deny this being the hypocrite that you are. Serena and Venus Williams are devoted Witnesses and they do go door to door. You already know this hypocrite! Just like Prince is also a JW. Are you going to deny that Judge Rutherford was a JW simply because he lived as a wealthy alcoholic committing adultery in his Beth Sarim mansion? Your self righteous cult is a lie just like your comment was a lie.
SisterChristianJW 9 months ago
@SisterChristianJW If you're a fellow sister, then why'd you make a video like this?
EscapeTruth 9 months ago
@EscapeTruth She's just a pretender, pay her no mind
HardbeatAcolyte 8 months ago
@EscapeTruth Because I can.
SisterChristianJW 7 months ago
I'm an ex-JW and I saw A LOT of fucked up things in my Congregation.
vyxtouch 1 year ago
i used ton be a jw, in italy and in my kingdomhal, i got lots of problems because i used to go with jeans, and i see all those people in the wrong way of living,according the bible.
i have only to say.
fuck you and all these fucking falls religions.
sorry for my english,
lomaxsalvo 1 year ago
they are not Jehovah's Witnesses
clevelandshero23 1 year ago
@clevelandshero23 quote from Serena: "There is another source of Serena's psychological strength: her religion. All the Williams girls were brought up as JWs and all of them, she tells me, remain devoted to their faith. (Serena even goes door to door when she has time.) Not only that, but their best friends are Witnesses too. 'It's fun,' Serena explains of this arrangement, 'because you get to relate to somebody and at the same time you know you're not going to be living a promiscuous life."
SisterChristianJW 1 year ago
@SisterChristianJW oh thanks sister i did not know that I am very happy for them
clevelandshero23 1 year ago
While I agree that some of the celebrities who are witnesses are bringing reproach..they are no different than those who do it within the congregation and are not famous..sin is sin..and we should not idolize any man or woman..but direct our worship to Jehovah. those within the congregation will be judged also..for ALL will stand before Jehovah!
brofun 1 year ago 2
shut the fuck up, there ain't no god... WAKE UP!!
Toshinoro 1 year ago
black wild beasts!
isjehovahEVIL 1 year ago
I am dissappointed.I always thought prince was homosexual.
MrMattBarry 1 year ago
How did Serena's naked ass turn this into a talk about Jehovah's name?...I never heard of any superstars get into any trouble for their life styles, the Faithful lying slave reserved that for low rank & file who have no names or faces.
Jeulax 1 year ago
Yes, Serena Williams IS NO JEHOVAH WITNESS, just my her conduct, dress, morals, greed and lust of fame and glory OF THE WORLD. What good christian do you know would expose oneself like Serena Williams does at 2:59 - 3:13 on this video? This is only one of many images of her sexually exposing herself. She only gives and others like her a bad name to JEHOVAH and good moral Jehovah's Witnessess.
fritzvongarrett 2 years ago
they choose popularity than god!jws treat everyone equal,and thats the governing body are always encouraging the organization,to be in between,not biased ,not one sided and no favoritism.show love to evryone,after all we are juz gods creation,and no one is powerful than him..so why,you make your self involve in such thing?do you think that voting is what really want us to do?to choose one and hate one,to praise other,and trush other?is that you guys are happy to do?
gee198036 2 years ago
Not one sided?
Let me ask you this. What would happen if you were to read, examine or put some thought into outside source other than the WT?
Would it be frowned upon by your elders? Doesn't your WT warn against reading such material and it's grounds for disfellowshipping?
If that's NOT one sided, please tell me what is!
ah0386 2 years ago
let me ask you too,if you found someone whom evrything your looking is in him or her,who makes your heart fully satisfied and and that you know you cant live without,would you still look for others?
gee198036 2 years ago
No, but at the same time, if my one and only cheated on me, lied and left me miserable, why would I stay?
As it's self evident with the WT, they lied. Kind like your analogy, everything was fine in the beginning, but then when one finds out about the deceit, the organization is nothing more than a harlot.
The fear erodes and you move on. From the many changes in the generation meaning, to changes in the blood doctrine, it's a relationship based on lies.
ah0386 2 years ago
cheated?are they cheated you?y you afraid?they are not vampire,they wont kill you.they are juz studying to make their spiritual active, to love one another,affection,and understand each other and respect one another..and above all to love God and do his righteousness
gee198036 2 years ago
Uh, you're the one who used the analogy, lol.
I simple played along, exposing how flawed your logic is.
I love your cult like love bombing approaching, ignoring how not loving your god is with the scriptures listed. I'm not afraid, but it seems you don't want to address the changed doctrines, false dates and disgusting book that laid the foundation for your religion, the bible.
ah0386 2 years ago
things that can be seen is temporary,but things unseen means everlasting.its easy to honor human than God,because human can be seen while God is invisible.its williams sisters choice to get trap by satans snare!people give easily an honor to them,than Jehovah,which people even make fun of his name
gee198036 2 years ago
Every time JWs condem Christiandom and blasphem the Catholic church, they are making fun of the name Jehovah, which originated with these forces. The name Jehovah is afiliated Israel, genocide, terror, control, and greed.
FaithfulDiscreetSlav 2 years ago
Influential celebrities like Michael Jackson, the Williams sisters, Prince, etc. are used by the JW elite to legitimize its strict laws which do not allow people to vote, get a higher education. Instead it encourages them to be passive.
FaithfulDiscreetSlav 2 years ago
dont jump into conclusion,if you dont really know the truth!you juz base your comment through those heresays..those,people you mention are old enough to understand.and jw'sdidnt used them.they hav their own choice,and free to make their own decession.jw's only follow solely in the bible.
gee198036 2 years ago
"Don't jump to conclusions if you don't really know the truth"? I thought the truth was; JWs not abiding by the beliefs of the Watchtower was grounds for disfellowshipping and being shunned by friends and family members? Have the Gov body changed that policy? If so, they finally grew a heart and a conscious.
FaithfulDiscreetSlav 2 years ago
i encourage you to think and realize,that if let say,you went for a competition or your running for a president,you investing all your money,effort and to advertise your candidacy,your even praying hard to win the said competition,and your rival also do the same way like you do,which prayer you think God will listen?and who you think he will be sided?since both of you are his creations and both of you he love?
gee198036 2 years ago
Anyone with common sense realizes that a FAMOUS celebrity making such a statement as: "I won't vote for him because Jehovah's Witnesses "don't get involved in politics"... will have a POWERFUL impact on influencing the masses to legitimize the Watchtower's agenda. Please tell me the Watchtower is not affiliated with reversing voting rights legislation and freedom of education. PLEASE TELL ME THAT.
SisterChristianJW 2 years ago
jws is always neutral.think of it,jws can vote if they want to..no one in the organization if they will vote secretly.i dont think so,that after the votation,they will reveal the names of the voter.but why,jws juz cant?its becos,it love who moves them not to vote!
gee198036 2 years ago
Please tell me, how many millions of people do Zionists no longer have to worry about becoming educated or voting -- thanks to the Watchtower? Is it 7.1 million world wide (not counting the JW Elite Gov body attorneys and secret members of the UN)? WOW, if I didn't know any better, I would say religion is pretty successful in governing populations.
SisterChristianJW 2 years ago
so,you think you know better than jws who trully their belief is??thats why you come up with such an arrogant conclusion?dont you know,that there is alot alot alot more talented and intillegent jws?you know why?coz god bless them so much wisdom,and inteligence to use their intelligence in understanding his will and his words,so they can also share it to others as what really gods will,but some are juz weak enough and get into satans trap!
gee198036 2 years ago
That article never mentioned that we should avoid it completely, in some cases a degree is beneficial to us in order to earn enough money to live on by working less hours. Ever wondered why at University you gain a "degree" or a "masters" ?? ever thought of the deep link to freemasonry
hewhocauses 2 years ago
At the KH, the young ones are discouraged from seeking a higher education. Zion's Watchtower has found a clever way to reverse voting rights legislation and freedom of education via MC & consciousness. As far as freemasonry, ever heard of Zion's Watchtower Society or Governing Body? Just look at the roots of the Russell family and the Watchtower.
SisterChristianJW 2 years ago
you are full of lies,and make up story..i guess you can be a writer in tabloid.you have so many things to say,but nothing is real.did you really ever sit down and had a whole study with them?
gee198036 2 years ago
"The pursuit of a higher education can become a crafty act of the devil". Having an elder, Circuit Overseer, etc., making a statement like that will have what kind of impact on JW children??
SisterChristianJW 2 years ago
I do public talks, proclaim God's kingdom and worship Jehovah God. Never once would I discourage anyone from further education and neither would anyone I know in my congregation. I am aware of past written comments in magazines, I am also aware of the zion's watchtower society most brothers know all about the history. We made errors and have corrected them in due time.
hewhocauses 2 years ago
They still recognize themselves as Zion. And the congregation still discourage young ones from higher education, voting, etc.
SisterChristianJW 2 years ago
It is absolutely down to an individual whether or not they deem it appropriate to go to University. A degree at University can be extremely beneficial, in some cases it can be a bad case of association if you get mixed up in the clubbing and drinking too much. Again it's up to the individual
hewhocauses 2 years ago
Would you like a free home Qur'an study?
AllahsWitnesses 2 years ago
Do you guys do home studies to? That's excellent, it's good to spread the word of what you believe. SalaM
hewhocauses 2 years ago
Yes we are no part of Islamidom and show people what the Qur'an truly says
AllahsWitnesses 2 years ago
While watching your video, satan came and gave me the desire to get an higher education. He told me that minimum wage won't carry me until retirement. I shouted Jehovah's name 5 times before he went away.
TheScrewedGeneration 2 years ago
Satan came to me while watching this video and he gave me a boner.
Jesusfathers 2 years ago
Caution, "Wet Paint".
SisterChristianJW 2 years ago
Lol...... HOW DARE YOU? You good for nothing slave!!! Just who do YOU think you are to try to improve your economic and educational status? Jehovah's faithful servants must wait on god's kingdumb to arrive with it's promised paradise.
SisterChristianJW 2 years ago
he will be dissolved in antimatter
WtGoverningBody 2 years ago
Thank you for your encouragement. I will stay on wellfare untill the new system.
TheScrewedGeneration 2 years ago
"Voting is not expressly prohibited, but it is discouraged."
They sure got that fact wrong.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
Do you mean they do prohibit voting? The WT's main objective is to take away an individual's basic freedom. And they use celebrity clout to influence and legitimize the cause.
SisterChristianJW 2 years ago
I'm saying that article got it wrong when they said voting is not prohibited. I'm pretty sure it is.
utukkuxul 2 years ago
Well.. you know the WT is crafty with their wording of things. They try to make it seem as though it's your choice and free will, when in fact they have gotten inside your mind having you believe that God himself prohibits voting. I think the WT would be too clever to come right out and say they prohibit voting. The word "discourage" would be more safe & politically correct for them.
SisterChristianJW 2 years ago
I dunno, I was always taught that we weren't allowed to vote. I was never told it was a conscience issue or that it was a personal decision; I was always taught we were not allowed to. In fact my mom used to tell me the reason my dad wouldn't become a JW was because he wouldn't be allowed to vote any more.
In fact the Elder book says those doing so would be considered disassociating themselves and treated as disfellowshipped(p 140).
utukkuxul 2 years ago
On the other hand, the Nov 1 1999 Watchtower states that it's an individual conscience issue... tbh this is the very first time I've ever heard such a thing. All the quotes I've looked up so far, before this issue, stated that JWs cannot vote. So this must be New Light(hooray!).
Hell my mom wouldn't take a pencil from my grandmother because it was given to her by a politician during election time!
utukkuxul 2 years ago
Granted, news reporters are known for misinterpreting info. However the Watchtower wanting to portray an image of promoting free will would have the public believe it's a matter of conscious -- when in fact their mind programming techniques, and as you say, the elder's book along with the threat of disfellowshipping will have parents interpret the guidance to their children as it is prohibited. The violent threat of Armageddon will always whip that conscious in shape.
SisterChristianJW 2 years ago
Well yeah, we know they lie to the public. We've seen them lie in court and say blood transfusions are not prohibited, among other things. So I wasn't trying to say the newspaper article was lying deliberately, just that that statement was not altogether correct.
If you can be disfellowshipped for it, then it's clearly prohibited. Saying it's a "conscience matter" but you'll be disfellowshipped is like saying any of their prohibited activities are conscience matters.
utukkuxul 2 years ago 3
I agree totally.
SisterChristianJW 2 years ago
God is holy,therefore his organization must also holy.if one of the member make mistakes, who bring mess in jehovahs holy organization,then he will be under a diciplinary action.juz like a father,who scold his son if his son make mistake.but it doesnt mean that they cant forgive,if the member who is being shuned is sincere in their heart,as god is forgiuving they have posibilities to be reinstated
gee198036 2 years ago
God's a lot of things! But since you're already convinced that people who bring up points against the wt are "full of lies", I'll source form the horse's mouth. More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT) Kill Men, Women, and Children
No matter how you wanna spin it, I agree, your god is a lot of things.
ah0386 2 years ago
matthew 7:15,jesus said be careful of false prophets.they come to you looking gentle like sheep,but they actually dangerous like wolves,matthew 7:21not evryone calls me lord ,lord will enter the kingdom of heaven,but only those who do what my father in heaven wants them to do
gee198036 2 years ago
Ok, so you choose to cherry pick more bible verses and ignore what anyone else is saying.
Randomly quoting scripture and paralleling with your beliefs does not make you right.
It's funny, that very verse can be applied to your organization from the 1914, 1918, 1925, 1941 and 1975 dates that WT called as dates that end of the world would come.
But it's all lies, right?
ah0386 2 years ago
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gee198036 2 years ago
Ok, so you condone rape, murder, adultery and genocide as did the Hebrew god, jehovah.
That's disgusting. You need help.
ah0386 2 years ago
and also,to help you understand the bible fully
gee198036 2 years ago
Something that I might agree upon, is yes, be careful of a false prophet!
Before I move on, in your definition, what is a false prophet?
ah0386 2 years ago
matthew 7:17,18 a good tree produces good fruit,and bad tree producesbad fruit and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit. and,consider the 3 good fruits that the bible says that can identify good tree!1st:high moral standards 2nd:brotherly love 3rdP:respect for gods word..this 3 is essential in identifying,the good religion
gee198036 2 years ago
Well I can think of literally dozens of religion that follow the same thing!
Again thanks for addressing the literal scriptures of a blood thirsty god.
ah0386 2 years ago
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gee198036 2 years ago
Talk about a simpleton's point of view.
ah0386 2 years ago
so in voting,do you think your promoting a brotherly love?
gee198036 2 years ago
Jeez, you love to bounce and avoid the issues. Actually, it's your civic duty and your right to choose if you want to vote. Don't see how it has anything to do with brotherly love, but somehow you throwing in the mix.
Do you think it's "brotherly love" to go through shunning process for disagree with the WT, i.e. disfellowshipping?
What would happen to a JW member who questioned doctrine of the WT?
Do you think it's brotherly love of killing 6 billion people who are not JWs?
ah0386 2 years ago
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gee198036 2 years ago
Well, that right is a lie.
The JWs disfellowship and shun those who disagree with them. Love your enemies with a shunning practice?
Not the kind of love I expected.
ah0386 2 years ago
?? We would never shun or disfellowship anyone that disagrees, if that has ever happened then the elders need talking to.
hewhocauses 2 years ago
Then you're a liar.
You've even label people as apostates who don't agree with you.
ah0386 2 years ago
juz try a simple understanding,if your father run for a president and your friend didnt vote to your father but to his rivalry,how would you feel?
gee198036 2 years ago
You see, to me it doesn't matter. If the views of my father conflict with mine, I'm not voting for him, lol. Plain and simple.
Even though the bible is clearly vague on so many freaking issues that basically spawn literally 1000's of interpretations, there is no clear defining law as one can't vote.
Jesus said give Caesar's things to Caesar and god's things to god.
Doesn't say you can't vote for a proposition or your town leader. I don't worship those in public service, LOL.
ah0386 2 years ago
i will share with you,john 6:15..after jesus do the preaching and he perform miracles and wanted him to involved in local pilitics,to make him a king by force,he withdraw again to a mountain by himself.and when jesus pray to god about the disciples he said:john 17:14,i have given them your word,and the world hated them because they do not belong to the world,just as i do not belong to the world..
gee198036 2 years ago
Ok?
You're cherry picking the bible, the same book that has god CONDONING rape, murder, genocide and blood sacrifice, both human and animal. Really?
You will share with a bible verse, but yet flat out ignore the atrocities and back wards logic that is some how revered in this wicked book?
ah0386 2 years ago
have you really read and understand the whole scripture as what you quoted in the previous?or your juz picking it and makes it another about it?i encourage you to read carefully and understand it will..bible,is either,literal or symbolical..so,you need help?you want to set down and study about it?
gee198036 2 years ago
Ok-
What was it literal or symbolic to kill old men, women and children in Jeremiah 51:20-26?
Was it literal or symbolic wit the rape and Baby Killing in Isaiah 13:15-18?
Oh, my favorite! Children who have nothing to do with the sinners but yet they die! Leviticus 26:21-22
Angel of death that commits genocide Exodus 23:23. Why would god allow this?
But yet you quote some Greek scriptures and it cancels any and all atrocities committed by this god of yours.
ah0386 2 years ago
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gee198036 2 years ago
Funny, that's how I came to realization that the bible, is a book of fairy tales and rehashed from different time periods, but with different names.
Simply reading the bible exposes all it's flaws.
I can't figure out why you continue to ignore and deflect, randomly quoting scriptures to make your point.
People must either get really frustrated or laugh at you when you try to explain WT logic.
ah0386 2 years ago
I like the J-dub celeb look. That's why I'm sporting these Locs.
FaithfulDiscreetSlav 2 years ago
Nice one Brother!
GreatGizaGODof1914 2 years ago
Absolutely!
Even at the congregational level, the everyday rank and file JW who have some sort of clout, whether it's money or influence overall, do not adhere to the same principals as your lower rank or less privileged jws.
No different than any other religion or club. But the difference is, they pride themselves as being no part of the world and you would know them for their "fruits". So far, seems to be a basket of rotten apples.
ah0386 2 years ago
think of it! isnt that the father is the head of the family?and the wife must respect the husband?of course,not the firstimer can lead over the pioneer...
gee198036 2 years ago
Uh, and your point is? LOL.
Look man, you've already establish yourself as being WT zealot and your type come and go on youtube.
You'll find it's impossible to mass a rebuttal against documented proof of the WT LIES, start blocking apostates and approving comments on your youtube page cause you don't want to face the facts.
I've seen it a DOZENS AND DOZENS of times.
Anyone want to wager how long this one is going to last?
ah0386 2 years ago
mass media,journalist,or whoever,they can write anything they wanna say,and can manipulate peoples mentality,coz people are more interested to hear what is wrong than right.you hear so many times,and you juz hear it,still you havent find for yourself
gee198036 2 years ago
And what has your religion been doing for the past 120 years? Pointing out what is wrong with other religion and then labeling them as false!
But yet, it doesn't apply to your religion? Even though the many doctrinal changes over the years and false dates has categorized them in the same group, it's somehow the media's fault?
If that's the attitude we should have, then why scrutinize anything?
ah0386 2 years ago
pls refer to matthew 7:13,14.go in through the narrow gate,because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction,and many are ones going in through it,whereas narrow is the gate that leads to life and only few find it.
gee198036 2 years ago
"they can write anything they wanna say,and can manipulate peoples mentality". That sounds like the Watchtower printing press.
HateCrimes322 2 years ago
remember in noah's time.people are juz laughing and even call him crazy..in time of jesus..people,are even teasing him,accusing him,even his own relatives..thats,why am not wondering why,and am not surprise if you said like that
gee198036 2 years ago
Noah the mythological flood hero myth rooted from paganism. You are the repeated - broken record of Christendom. What Christian does not blindly use that same quote? We learned that same old story in Sunday school before we even heard of Jehovah's Witnesses.
HateCrimes322 2 years ago
you will repeatedly hear it becos that is a real story that happen long ago.and whereby,you can learn lesson from it..thats why,i encourage you to read the bible over and over again,as it also helpful guide for our daily life
gee198036 2 years ago
Which proves that JWs actually are a part of the world. In particular, the world of Christiandom. Why? Because they ritually recite & believe in the same biblical pagan myths that other Christian religions do like Catholics, Baptists, etc.
HateCrimes322 2 years ago
Unbelievable there is no doctrine taught remotely similar to that of the catholic or baptist faith thankfully, the doctrine of the JW's is truth you can talk about errors and mistaken predictions but what is important is what the Bible says and we stick to it now more than ever.
hewhocauses 2 years ago
We learned the same stories in Sunday school about Adam & Eve, Noah & the flood, Moses, Jesus, etc. even before I ever heard of the JW religion. As a matter of fact, if you visit other Christian churches, you hear them praising God's name as Jehovah (which they did before the invention of the JW religion). Religion likes to argue at one another and compete, but they all are saying the same thing.
HateCrimes322 2 years ago
Of course most of christendom know the name of Jehovah we don't expect to be the only ones that do. We were formed in the late 1800's so how could we be the only ones..... we couldn't
hewhocauses 2 years ago
The name is a product of Christendom, they pray to the same God that you pray to, and they all worship the same God. He's authenticated by the Catholic bible.
HateCrimes322 2 years ago
I meant to say Catholic encyclopedia.
HateCrimes322 2 years ago
We do not pray to the same God, it's an insult. Do you see a God of Love in the Catholic Church? All I see is a god of hypocrisy therefore a false one. They use the name of Yaweh which has recently been prohibited
hewhocauses 2 years ago
The name Jehovah was established by the the Catholic church and it is recognized by Christendom. JWs are not allowed to visit other churches, but if they were to visit them, they will see them praise Jehovah the same way you do. They do worship the same wrathful, jealous God who threatens to destroy anyone who does not worship him.
HateCrimes322 2 years ago
The name was not established by them but is a transliteration from the original Hebrew that's the fact. JW's are allowed to visit wherever they wish I am a JW and I recently attended a mormon church, before that I visited a protestant. We all have our own choices so please don't make us out to be what we're not without knowing the truth. Every God will destroy those who turn away from him
hewhocauses 2 years ago
That transliteration was given to us by a Roman Catholic monk. "Every God will destroy those who turn away from him." Would you destroy your child for turning away from you?? False gods suck!!!
FaithfulDiscreetSlav 2 years ago
The divine name is the divine name, there is no other. God will only destroy the wicked, not the righteous. And it's in his hands not ours, none of us know what the future will bring
hewhocauses 2 years ago
The first known attempt to render the so called divine name into a modern language was in 1278 by Raymundo Martini, a Spanish monk of "Babylon the Great".
FaithfulDiscreetSlav 2 years ago
When I was a JW, we were told not to enter into any other religious facility outside the JW org., as they were alleged to be under Satan's influenc & destined to being destroyed by God. They must have become more lenient nowadays.
SisterChristianJW 2 years ago
Absolutely, but then it does depend on the congregation. An elder and presiding overseer told me that he recently visited Cathedrals and Churches in France and said how beautiful they were, The thing that is prohibited is studying with them and practicing the doctrine of other faiths. Which is understandable as it's normally classed as apostasy in religion
hewhocauses 2 years ago
The name Jehovah is recognized by everyone because it is God's name. We are allowed to visit other churches it's up to us what we do. He's a God of Love and patience, how do you know who he will destroy?
hewhocauses 2 years ago
Here are the pagan roots of your so called god of love: In 1519 Petrus Galatanus, a scholar, priest, and confessor of Pope Leo X, spelled the name Iehouah, which when written in the early roman script looked like Jehovah. In 1530 William Tynadale produced the first English translation of a portion of the bible and the following Galatnus he rendered the Tetragrammaton JEHOVAH in all caps.
FaithfulDiscreetSlav 2 years ago
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gee198036 2 years ago
fank 'god' that martin luther king and obama were not and are not JWs - they never would've cared about 'Us' - non JWs, like the MJ song 'They Don't Care About Us" JWs are like disloyal to their humankind and have traitorously chosen an alien invader and overlord over their fellow man and woman. Like a Genocide doctrine. It is such an obvious fabricated kitsch low IQ religion that uses cartoons and standover methods to 'turn' uneducated into meaningless shells of people.
MYKELLJAKSUN 2 years ago
JWs are like the poor man's Scientologists or the white trash cousins of mormons. Prince is way gay and his marriage and wife's pregnancy was a sham to stop his outing. But can fatal for bigger celebs like JW to publicly leave the WO. I'm sure MJ loathed JWism in his own end days. Great vid!
MYKELLJAKSUN 2 years ago 2
Yes, I agree. The Faithful & Discreet Slave is pimping their cult through influential celebrities who are exempt from their strict doctrines.
SisterChristianJW 2 years ago
Lol, another gay cover-up marriage? That reminds me of yrs ago when MJ was set up on stage to kiss his girlfriend or fiance in effort to change his image of being attracted to boys. Lol, you could plainly see that kissing a woman wasn't natural for him.
SisterChristianJW 2 years ago
AAAhhhhh jehovahs fine celebrity followers make such a fine witness...
Do you think they get special treatment ?
BrotherDempster 2 years ago
The VIP.
SisterChristianJW 2 years ago
Do you get to drink of the wine and eata tha cracker ?
BrotherDempster 2 years ago
Being a VIP member of the JW Elite automatically appoints one to the status of Annointedhood. So to answer your question, YES, I get to partake of the cracker/flesh & wine/blood ritual.
SisterChristianJW 2 years ago