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  • Bambi Burgers are good! :)

  • Our countrys military is no more than the enforcement arm of our corrupt and exploitive government. You speak of education? You don't even understand the meaning of the word! And by the way, I'm no Vegan. I eat venison I harvest myself. Ive never lost an animal and I don't intend to either. You just need to wake up to evils this United States of America thrusts upon the citizens of other "3rd world" countries EVERY day.

  • If the only things you 14 year old tree hugging morons have to complain about is the killing of a few greasy deer with a bow or gun you need to get a life.

  • @tvanstra I am a 60-year old well-traveled, college-educated Navy veteran trained as an electrician, mechanic and Navy Aviation Anti-Submarine Warfare Electronics instructor. What a life I have! You may want to upgrade your education, gain a bit more life experience and achieve a modicum of maturity if you expect to be taken seriously.

  • @1HillbillyGirl I dont think he was talking to you...

  • @HunterCook15 ~ You're probably correct...hard to say with YouTube's comment system.

  • @1HillbillyGirl Oh well, he'll live.

  • @1HillbillyGirl he was talking about an bush hippie complaining.... but im goona take missouris unlimeted doe tags to my advantage and stock the freezer. now go eat some deer !!!

  • @tvanstra Pfft...all these hippie peta members just need to smoke another fatty because us hunters will never be stopped. they government rely's on us to take the population so there not spend billions of money on car crashes and ecosystems....so what i am trying to say about all the peta members out there, and i meal all of ya.....GO FUCK YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!

  • @BambiKillin I agree with you except can I smoke another fatty too?

  • Hunters do more to support animal herds than anti-hunters. The death of an individual animal is irrelevant compared to the loss of entire herds due to lost habitat. If anti hunters really wanted to help wild animals they would put their money toward saving habitat. Golf courses do more to hurt wildlife than hunters due to the toxic chemicals and loss of habitat!

  • One thing that makes me mad is when people say that hunters just care about skins and horns, not true. The idea is that big horns mean an old animal. You harvest an old animal it makes room for younger ones to breed. And with habitat shrinking every day due to human over population, sport hunting is a must for animals to survive in the wild. I wish there was enough wild land left where animals didn't need hunters. But sadly there isn't. And the enemy is ourselves. OVERPOPULATION.

  • I think the term 'sport hunting' is detracting from hunters' credibility. Sport infers a pleasure-oriented activity. While hunters certainly enjoy the activity ..there is so much more to it. Any suggestions on better terminology? 

    BTW ..thank you for your well thought out and logical discussions here.

  • not because of what happend to the tiger but the way people reacted was great. Hunters are not poachers. Hunters respect and love the wildlife, or just the outdoors period. I've seen first hand what hunters have done to poachers when they get caught, and trust me you don't wanna be a poacher.

  • Bottom line is without regulated sport hunting we will have no wildlife. Hunters are the truest conservationists on the planet. A man posted a picture of a tiger he shot, obviously not in india, but all the same he posted it on a huge hunting forum, and the hunters there went crazy. I mean he posted this and not 5 min later he was getting threats from people wanting to turn him into the DFG and CITES and the outfitters wanted the outfitter's name to run him out of the business. It made me proud.

  • Also,did you ever consider that the reason deer cause auto accidents is *because* of our intrustive relationship with them? The natural habitat of deer has been invaded for so long that they've been naturally trained to run from anything they don't recognize. They see a car, they immediately think "Danger!" and run. That's called instinct. If we didn't build properties on what was originally their territory, they'd have no reason to run into the road and cause problems.

  • Mankind has eliminated natural predators ...that's the biggest cause for deer overpopulation. Secondary reason: the prolific breeding habits of deer, who breed young, often and usually have twins.

  • @1HillbillyGirl Well the loss of predators is one reason, all animals in the bush have cycles. They will breed until their population outstrips the food supply or disease sets in. Where I'm from rabbits and spruce grouse have a 7 yr cycle. steadily growing population, than a crash . Predators follow the same cycle (fox, lynx etc) Part of nature

  • @jhillst the biggest invasion to their natural habitat, then you must agree that its city growth and highways being built everywhere, leaving little space for separation between animal and man, this is a true fact and accidents occur because of this, so instead of protesting against hunting why don't you protest against land developers??? I don't understand you anti hunting people????

  • I would respect hunters more if they dropped this stupid pretense of caring about "conserving" the wildlife population and just admitted the truth, which is that they enjoy going into the woods and shooting at things.

    If hunters cared so much about "conserving" wildlife, then how do you explain groups like Ducks Unlimited, which breeds ducks in droughted areas SOLELY for the purpose of having more to shoot?

  • that is entirely untrue. Hunters are the main reason that we have wildlife like we do. They fund organizations that actually work like, ducks unlimited, the world's leading wetland protector. Save the elephants. Rocky mountain elk foundation. Tiger foundations. The white rhino was saved single handedly by hunters from a population of only six remaining! I don't know one hunter who condones poaching, the ivory trade, etc.

  • Not a pretense. Conservation programs were initiated by hunters. Hunting license fees support conservation programs. As for the duck breeding/hunting ...ethical hunters utilize every ounce of meat, or donate it to food pantries. Ethical hunting means *no waste,* whether farm-raised or harvested from the wild.

  • I respect people who have the strength in their convictions to become vegetarian. If you believe that its great, but I hope you understand the morons that put brutal and gory hunting videos are a large minority. I am an avid hunter and only take animals after a sportsmanlike hunt and where i can guarantee a humane dispatch of that animal.

  • haha ur numbers and figures are as fake as ur mothers womb... from where u rose.... killing in the wild is inhuman and can cause eco damage.. a kid in kindergarden knows that... u fukn morons will beat up ur wives and sell ur sisters if u werent hunting... thtz u.... and thtz how u wil be... u r jus a different race... wish we had more literate humans...

  • You are a moron.

    An uncivil tongue is a sign of someone who can't use words.

    Personal insults are just plain crass.

  • If we all turn vegan, we'll starve all the deer out!

  • Well said thanks for the video 5*s and fav

  • @2024JayZ ....thanks for the kind words, JayZ

  • No one can respect life more than one who takes it to live.

    Hunters are stewards of the earth.

  • @houndman6 ... well said.  Thank you.

  • When the modern world collapses and it returns to madd maxx days, will be funny how many "vegans" will resort to hunting and eating wild game to survive. never say never, hypocrites!

  • No fucking vegan has my respect.here's why. I'm content to let them be.......but they can't reciprocate. Fucking hypocrites

  • Gtrplyr1, the reason why i choose to kill deer is for clean meat .Industrial livestock meat is less than clean, for it is handled by a multitude of people during butchering, delivery, packaging, people at grocery stores touching packaged meat that contains a hole , etc. CLEAN MEAT !!!

    Not all of us wish to be vegan, sorry !!!

  • Im pretty sure hillbillygirl just explaned it to you numbnuts!

  • This doesn't justify killing an innocent animals. I can't see how some people enjoy killing things.

  • I can't speak for every hunter, but I know in this area harvesting a deer means food on the table for most of the winter months.

    In this area, we must drive 23 miles or more to work, which is usually a factory job. Factories are notorious for layoffs during winter months and unemployment won't pay bills let alone buy groceries. Venison helps make ends meet, and is healthier than pricey store-bought meat. Plus, there is a certain satisfaction for providing for ones family in rough times.

  • that i can understand, although it's still sad, but may be necessary.. I just find it disturbing that some people actually enjoy killing animals.

  • I think your dismay stems from the 'Jerry Springer' types in it for the shock value. Although they are a tiny fraction of licensed hunters, their horrific videos taint all hunters. Ethical hunters do not post childish, obscenely bloody videos of celebrations over a kill.

    **We always give a measure of respect and thankfulness for the animal that lost its life to feed us.**

  • Yea but someone has the choice to kill, i don't see the reason someone would choose to kill. THere are more people who kill for game and thrill then necessity. it's just sad to me.. At least you have some compassion i see.

  • In this area (& most rural areas) hunting is more *necessity* than choice. Allowing one's family to go hungry is not compassionate.

    Store-bought meat's likely been fed with ground up bodies of unsaleable (sick) animals to bulk up faster, then shipped to inhumane & cruel processing plants where it is treated with carcinogens to improve appearance. Poisoning one's family is not compassionate.

    Truly ...we hunt because it's healthier, cheaper & more satisfying. Not just for the kill.

  • i will admit that anyone who is anti hunting should be aware that the "meat" industry is more cruel. I am a vegan. You hunt because it's healthier,cheaper etc. I know to many hunters who do it for "fun"

  • Vegan is a difficult lifestyle to enter and maintain.....you have my respect.

    'Tis true, there are folks who hunt for the thrill of killing a living thing ..it gives a false sense of superiority. That is not the same as experiencing a hunt on a primal level. You see, hunters must master many skill sets, & because our species relied on those skills to survive there is an element of personal satisfaction that cannot be put into words.

    So, fun is not the right word but one often used.

  • you still have my respect regardless. i can see you are not an immoral person.

  • and thanks. Ive seen to many videos etc about the food industry and trade. Im kind of a softy when it comes to animals.

    China with cats and dogs bothers me very much.. There are videos on here that are just plain disgusting. They have no welfare laws for animals at all. So you can do whatever you want to them..

  • @Gtrplyr1 For meat, for a connection with the land and where our food comes from, for bonding with our families. Not all of us want to spend our weekends in coffee shops or malls or major urban areas. Humans are hunters by nature.

  • True man, definitely true, but with technology we are no longer cavemen. Im not hating on hunters like the extremist, i just disagree with it.

  • @Gtrplyr1 ...trouble with technology ...Congress wants to make a buck from it (no pun intended....well, maybe).

    Congress granted corporations the right to contaminate our meat with 'enhancements' and 'preservatives' in order to boost profits.

    Some think those chemicals (& environmental contamination) are responsible for rise in childhood behavioral problems, cancers, aggression ...long list.

  • Is it more holy to buy hamburger from an industry that profits from killing animals?

    I think me hunting makes me appreciate life.

    But we do have fun making goofy vids of our hunts.

  • i don't eat meat at all. :(

    it's been a personal choice of mine for 3 years now

  • Good for you.

  • thanks, i understand hunting can be a lifestyle, i just don't see how someone can enjoy killing thats all. I couldn't hurt a fly lol

  • It's not the killing, that part is sad.

    But, i am a omnivore by nature and I embrace what I am.

    I do celebrate the harvest. It's a spiritual thing, you have to understand the cycle of life and be at peace with that.

    Man is a part of God's design and what I do help's steward the earth and balance nature.

  • And also by making the kill, I understand life and death more than someone who has never done so.

    I don't do it to be cruel or feel powerful.

    Niether do the wolf, couger or coyote.

  • im not judging you, it's just something i disagree with.

  • It's ok to disagree, and it doesn't matter to me if others judge.

    If your a vegan, I respect your point of view.

    I just don't agree with it.

    Anti's who eat meat are just hipocrytes.

  • i understand. Ever since i saw the vids of the slaughter house i just don't have the heart to consume animal products. Clothes etc, hell i hate our military for testing weapons on animals as well.. Totally pointless and cruel.

  • Hate the military?! Question for you... if you chose to walk nekkid at 2 a.m. down the worst street in New York (or Chicago, or LA) ...what do you think would happen? Hmmm? Words and good intentions *will not* keep you as safe as a loaded Colt .45. The only way to survive evil is with a good defense. Our country NEEDS a strong military ..without it, we would be walkin' nekkid in a very evil, selfish world..

  • @Gtrplyr1 why would you hate the mlitary they are the ones risking their live to save ur sorry ass so you owe them evry thing you have without them your nothing im nothing we all would have nothing

  • @First off you the wars we partake in are completely unnecessary. It's not he soldiers i dislike, but the leaders. A lot of shady shit takes place behind the curtains incase you are unaware but the typical american is anyways... And it is completely unnecessary to test weapons on animals due to the simple fact our human genetics are not related and it is inhuman..

  • Deer are cool they taste good.I shot many and had two cars messed up by them.Great video.

  • I got my deer this year. Will enjoy venison all winter =)

  • this video is so true. thanks for makin this. mabe it will get anti- hunters off our ass.

  • YES thank you!!! Im greatful you posted this maybe it will stop the anti hunters for a second and listen for once

  • thank you for this video....fuck you anti hunters:)

  • Great job on this video, most people dont know the real facts!

  • I will be in a treestand hunting deer in 3 hours hopeing to get me a SC deer to put in the freezer wish me luck.

  • Lucky you! Good luck .. hope it's a B&C champ!

  • where at in SC? I'm from greenville but hunt down in the low country

  • @hippydude89 Your reliance on profanity and abusive language is underwhelming; indeed, any debate with such a shallow mind would be akin to fighting an unarmed person. Come back when you've gain a modicum of maturity.

  • Also you are blaming the deers for CAR ACCIDENTS? Excuse me if I am being a bit stupid here for thinking that cars AREN'T A FREAKING NATURAL THING.

  • I bet a dumbass American, with their dumbass unstable way of life created this, None of these facts would be relevant if humans didn't fucking take up all the land, so deers have no where to go. Don't blame the deers for the destruction blame humans for uplifting nature. Disney land Florida was created on MARSH LAND "IMPORTANT HABITATS FOR SMALL MAMMALS AND AMPHIBIANS!!!1" But I don't see you mentioning the theme park your kids go to! "NO not my lifestyle, blame the DEERS!!1"

  • The first sentence says, "The most dangerous mammal is not what you might think." I was like, you mean humans are not the most dangerous mammals?

    The human mammals in America just destroyed an entire nation of mammals in Iraq, and goaded and helped the mammals in Ethiopia to invade the mammals in Somalia. The mammals in Israel are starving the mammals in Palestine and just killed 1000 innocent mammals in Gaza.

    The only mammals that have ever hurt or robbed me have been human beings.

  • those evil deer . . . because they maliciously watch the road, waiting for an innocent, unsuspecting human to drive by in a car.  We'd better kill them all before they take us out.

    Sorry, that was probably rude...But I agree that its a problem, just not one to be solved by killing. There are roadside deer sensors, but these have unfortunately not been used to much extent because of the cost of installation and maintenance.

  • I'm glad you hunt with a camera and excuse my spelling of the word 'deer'. lol

  • Oh. It's dear! Well, I bet humans cause more damage than they do.

  • Okay. I've stopped the video at the beginning to guess which mammal it's going to be:

    Humans?

  • great vid.... I have been hunting for over 20 years and I have been told MANY times we are not killing enough deer.

  • 1HillbillyGirl,

    why didn't you tell us something about the destroying, HUMANS cause every day?

    Humans slaughter more than 50 billions of animals IN ONE YEAR! Not counted the fish and the frogs or insects. And all for eating.

    Humans kill humans in car accidents. In Germany we have about 3,000 people killed in car accidents.

    Humans destroy the rainforests.

    Humans kill humans in wars all over the planet ...

    The most dangerous mammal on the planet is: Human!

  • Natija, thank you for the idea. I am working on a second video and in the process of determining just what information should be included. Your ideas are sound and worth inclusion.

    I, too, am appalled by reckless, insensitive, inhumane, thoughtless, selfish and destructive behavior whether it is directed toward our environment, toward other human beings or toward the animals we use as food. Education is the most effective way to facilitate change; it takes time .. often generations.

  • @1HillbillyGirl

    I'm very happy, that you didn't refuse my suggestions.

    It shows me, that you are open for new ideas. Very good!

  • Ok, so if humans are so bad, the why dont you just kill yourself?

    Be one less jack ass to worry about.

  • @gregff9966

    I don't want to kill a human, they all want to live, me too.

    I think, we can all live in peace and without violence, if we STOP KILLING ANIMALS- AND HUMANS.

    I believe that all the humans, who did bad things, have to notice their malice one day and have to pay for it.

  • I belive that too, we will have to pay for what we do some day.

    Eating meat is a natural thing, theres nothing wrong with it.

  • @gregff9966

    No, it's not o.k. to eat meat.

    I you want to eat meat, you have to kill a living being, an animal.

    An animal wants to live as you do. It doesn't want to suffer and to be killed. It enjoys peace and good food like you do. Many animals have friends (for example cows and dogs).

    You can eat plants. They are delicious.

  • I eat plants too, green beans and potatoes go great with a big steak.

    Yes, im sure animals want to live too.

    But what about the animals that lions and tigers kill all the time?

    Thats just your opinion that its not ok.

    To me it is ok and I dont plan to ever stop.

  • @gregff9966

    You tried to misunderstand me. I didn't say that lions have to stop eating meat.

    I said we HUMANS should stop it.

    Look, lions have no choice what they should eat, but humans have.

    We can decide to eat only plants. And we should do so.

    There are nearly 7 billions of humans living on our planet earth. We destroy our planet with our meat eating.

    If you don't care now, you will experience the results of your decisions - your body gives you the answer and the world.

  • Yes we can decide to eat only plants. But why should we?

    Eating meat is perfectly natural theres nothing wrong with doing so.

    How do we destroy the planet by eating meat?

  • @gregff9966

    Look, your meat was an animal. And the animal had to eat plants. On modern farms, animals are fed with soybeens, grain and other plants. The farmers in USA/Europe buy a lot of soybeens from brasilia, where the rainforest had been destroyed to plant soybeens.

    Instead of feeding all the animals, people sould eat the plants itself.

    About 1 billion people suffer of hunger.

    50 to 60 BILLION animals are killed in only one year (without counting the fish, frogs and insects).

  • My brother is a farmer, I also know a lot of farmers. They do not buy grain out of the country. All the animals here in the states are fed from grain grown here.

    As of the people who are suffering of hunger. Well, sucks to be them.

  • @gregff9966

    I'm sorry, but that's wrong. The USA buy soy beans to fed the animals from brasilia. Your brother may fed his own grain (grain can be eaten by humans!) to fed his animals, but that's unusual.

    It's the same with Europe. The animals are fed with soy beans, because soy beans contain a lot of protein.

    No cow and no prok can eat only grass today. The turbo turkeys and hens which live only a few weeks befor being slaughtered can't grow so fast with only wheat.

  • Were do you get that info from? He does not feed his own grain.

    I have never heard of any farm buying feed form other countries.

    So we can eat that grain too, whats your point?

  • In Germany the farmers feed their cows with grain, corn, minerals, grass, hay and whole meal (? I don't know the correct English word) from soy beans.

    I know that porks are fed with whole meal from soy beans too.

    In Brasilia the rainforest is destroyed to plant soy beans for the US and the European market.

    Which animals does your brother have?

  • He has about 150 cows, and 20 pigs.

  • @gregff9966

    150 cows - that's a lot. The Holstein-Frisian Cow NEEDS whole meal of Soy beans, when she is lactating (gives milk - I don't know the correct English word).

    Please ask your brother about that.

    You CAN feed pigs without soy beans, but most farmers want to feed the pigs not longer than 6 months until slaughtering them - so they need soy beans to feed them - otherwise they wouldn't get their highest weight.

  • I think all the cows are black angus.

    He only feed them hay during the winter, then summer there out on pasture.

    Only the young calfs get grain.

  • @gregff9966

    Oh, I see, black angus, an old breed. We have some in Germany too. They are really beautiful! I like them very much.

    Black angus needn't soy beans, that's right.

  • So your from hamburg germany?

    My aunt if from there.

  • @gregff9966

    Oh, that's nice.

    Did your aunt tell you something about Hamburg? It's a beautiful city. I like to live here.

    Where do you live in the US? It must be rural, mustn't it?

  • Yea, I have heard a lot about it. She was there during the Hitler era.

    She went back a few times after, came back saying how nice it is now.

    I used to live in southern ohio, now west verginia. Both places are out in the country. I own about 3500 acres for my logging company. So im kind of out close to that.

  • @gregff9966

    Oh, West Virginia, so you perhaps visited the Monongahela National Forest? Did you see a Black Bear? I wish, I could see one in Nature. I only know bears from the zoo (or films).

  • Yea, live about 10 minuts away.

    I have seen a lot of bear. Several every year. I cant even keep my trash cans or pets outside because of them. I do a lot of hunting here, but I think the bear is one thing I just dont want to shoot.

  • @gregff9966

    Oh, only 10 minutes away? That's very nice. So, you must be very happy!

    I wish I could live in the country too. I'm looking for a little house to rent in the country at present. Hamburg is a beautiful city, but I want to have a garden and in Hamburg it's too expensive for me.

  • Its nice out here, very quiet. Sometimes too quiet.

    You ever been out of Germany?

  • @gregff9966

    Yes, I was. I visited Denmark several times, Sweden, Luxemburg, the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Austria, Northern Italy,Poland, the former UdSSR (Leningrad, now St. Petersburg), Latvia and Madeira, an island near Northern Afrika, that belongs to Portugal I think.

    What about you? The United States are a very big country, so you perhaps have to do enough to get to know your own country, don't you?

  • I have been to mexico and canada. Been through half of the states. Still about 20 or so I have not been to. It takes a lifetime to see everything here.

  • @gregff9966

    Yes, you are right. It's the same with Europe. I don't have the money to visit all the beautiful places around the world, but I can read books about it. I love nature and animals. So I like to read beautifull illustrated books about the wonderful i.e. national parks and their animals.

    And I am very concerned that these wonderful places could be destroyed. I just read an article about the hunting in Asian woods for the Chinese market. It's horrible.

  • Loved the video!

  • deer is good eatin!

  • thank you. :) unbiased facts,i enjoyed your video!!!

  • preserving the heritage...super vid

  • A very well, made video to which i would add only two things. A cardiologist I know has told more than one patient, that while they should reduce their redmeat intake, they can eat all the venision they like since it is LOW CHOLESTORAL.

    And while europeans did reduce natural Predators, They then took over that position as hunters to control not destroy the deer population. hunters have a bag limit, predators do not. nor do predators stop from killing the fawns. They prey on them first.

  • Excellent point made on the health benefits of venison and other wild game. Long walks in the woods, fresh air and solitude amid nature's bounty can do wonders for your health, also.

    *THANK YOU* for underscoring the fact that hunters control deer populations, not destroy them. In the early 1900's deer were endangered; sportsmen acknowledged the situation and implemented voluntary limits (resource management) that later became law.

  • Actually, venison is around 30% DV of cholesterol per 3 oz. serving. I don't know about you, But I eat alot more than a 3 oz. steak!! lol.... So it is actually slightly high in cholesterol. Its a 60-40 protein/fat ratio.

  • great video

  • SO TRUE! AND YOU CITED YOUR SOURCES! Nice job, one of the best vids I've seen yet.

  • WoW! That's high praise for my first attempt .. thank you! As for the sources .. yes, I have to give credit where it is due. Those folks did the legwork .. I simply brought it together.

  • Great job, awesome video. Just simple reality, doesn't get any better than that.

  • Thank you for the kind words ... I'm especially pleased you like the simple, direct approach.

  • Awesome video and i LOVED the background music!

    Native American's music is just so soothing and many people that want to get rid of hunting apparently dont appreciate the people and land they stand on.

  • Thanks :] Brule is my favorite Native American group, simply for this song. I used to play this when working with children at risk .. even those considered 'unreachable' calmed and quieted to this music.

  • We need more music like this to go mainstream and not used for a rap beat -_-

  • Your video does not address the fact that since europeans landed in the states there has been a large decrease of predator population of animals that would regulate the deer population.Decreased by hunters for "the hunt",by ranchers to protect livestock, and human fear of such powerful animals along with decrease of habitat do to human pop. growth.Yes humans have to live too. This video IMO seems to blame the dear for needing to cross the road to drink or eat or shit or LIVE!Predators matter.

  • You are correct. The blame sits squarely on the shoulders of mankind for destruction of habitat and removal of natural predators.

    I've addressed it in several comments here, but not in the video; it was an oversight that will be corrected when I can finish the second video in the series. This was my first attempt at such a project ... lots of room for improvement.

    Thank you for your input. I'm open for suggestions for the next video!

  • Now that's what I'm talking about! Great Video!

  • Great video! We need more people to see the big picture and open their mind. how many anti hunters have ever gone hunting with an ethical hunter and watched him/her hunt and continued to feel that it was wrong.The hunt is not just about the kill its about the hunt.People who have not been exposed to hunting dont understand that so that is what we should educate anti hunters about

    also people eat meat I have yet to see a helthy looking vegetarian. Its not natural to take pills and supplements.

  • Aye, we do need folks to open their minds. Trouble is, people tend to get in 'comfort zones' with their thinking and feel threatened by new concepts. I like your idea about taking them on a hunt with an ethical hunter .. if only we could do so. Thank you for the thoughtful compliments!

  • hittin a deer when drivin at night is scary,happend to me in scotland luckily on a straight bit of road.wot a fright,i stopped and put in the boot,my mate done the damage choppin it up,was well tasty,it happens to pheasants too,nae waste

  • nice video!, I wish all the anti-hunters would stop eating. this would be a better world.

  • Thank you for the compliment, Sada.

    Why not direct your energies to educating the anti-hunters? They cannot learn without teachers, those who lead by example.

  • The deer didn't run into the jeep, the jeep ran into the deer. The deer are natives. The humans are the feral primates playing a victim role. Blaming deer for overdevelopment after killing off its natural predators in habitat is like moving back to the tropics and complaining about the heat.

  • Thank you for taking time to comment. I understand your view but disagree on some points. I am not blaming the deer for overdevelopment, nor am I playing victim in the process. I simply stated that we are responsible for their current situation and the best we can hope for at this point is to manage their populations. They cannot do it on their own, and it is infinitely more cruel to allow their starvation than to harvest a certain percentage of their herds.

  • "we are responsible for their current situation" and ours.

    "the best we can hope for at this point is to manage their populations" Or better yet manage our own..

    "They cannot do it on their own" Yet we cannot do it for OURSELVES. In order to restore manageable populations, we merely need to restore natural human diet & let the real predators keep prey in check.

    "it is infinitely more cruel to allow their starvation" When food becomes scarce, deer simply breed less (unlike humans).

  • Point 1: Agreed. Point 2: Agreed, & they're inescapably entwined. Point 3: Meat -is- part of the natural human diet. Point 4: Wolves & mt. lions were predators we've all but eliminated. Point 5: Breeding induced by low photoperiods, not food supplies; they breed as young as 6 mo. & twins common; they are not monogamous; low numbers are caused by low soil fertility & mineral deficiencies; in harsh times they girdle & destroy trees for food, not stop breeding.

    BTW .. I used to surf in SoCal :]

  • "Meat -is- part of the natural human diet"

    Meat requires opposing digestive processes to fruit digestion & causes disease instead of prevents it. Humans are specialized frugivores digesting fruit best. Meat disrupts fruit digestion too. Meat is not a nutritional imperative for any hominoidea, whom resorted to meat when starving, it is now cultural choice not necessary.

    "not stop breeding"

    Deer breed less during harsh times.

    "I used to surf in SoCal"

    u still surf somewhere I assume..

  • ok,so let me ask this.u say stop blaiming deer and more so,stop hunting,humankind is what has over populated and is what the cause of the prob right?

    so then go fight to open right to put the human race on the counter to purchase hunt tags for.

    u ppl are pathetic."yea man,stop the killing,anti war!come on bro,no more slaughter,anti butchering!save the babies,anti abortion.sry bout the last.but there could be nothing wrong and ya'll would still anti something.i think ill go anti human 2day

  • "u say stop blaiming deer and more"

    Can u quote me and list the "more" instead of making up an argument?

    "so,stop hunting"

    If u say so... That's your paleolithic re-enactment/culture.. I don't order people to abandon customs. Those are your words.

    humankind is what has over populated and is what the cause of the prob right?"

    Please describe "the problem" u are taking this out of context. Someone else blamed deer for "overpopulating", if there is a problem it isn't the deer.

  • We are all guilty. We all kill what we eat. Veggies are living plants that DIE when harvested. Everyone that buys meet contributes to the miss treatment of livestock and their slaughter. Our veggies and meet need farms and ranches to grow. We take away animals habitat to make farms and ranches thus harming animals. Vegan Vegetarian or not. We are all guilty

    Humans are the most destructive mammals in America and the rest of the world.

    Just so you know I am a hunter.

  • I agree .. we are the most destructive beings this planet has ever spawned. Trouble is .. we made a mess and there is no other way to cope with it than thoughtful management of resources.  No everyone will agree on the definition of 'thoughtful.'

  • ioneth "We are all guilty" of what??

    "We all kill what we eat" That's not the topic. It's about disturving natural populations by eating unnatural food.

    "Veggies are living plants that DIE" Who cares? The point is people die from collisions w/deer because ppl kill the natural predatos. Nothing to do w/killing asparagus!

    "Our veggies and meet need farms and ranches to grow"

    Existential fallacy- humans dont' even "need meet"

  • Disturving natural populations is alot more than just killing their preditors. Human hunters replaced the preditors. They are overpupulated because of human overpopulation. the more we reproduce the more land we take away from the animals and force them to share even smaller habitats.

    humans dont' even "need meet"

    If I could take enough pills every day to compleatly fullfill my diatary needs. Would it be ok for me to tell you that eating fruit/veggies is wrong because you don't have to.

  • "If I could take enough pills every day to compleatly fullfill my diatary needs. Would it be ok for me to tell you that eating fruit/veggies is wrong"

    Your moralistic use of "wrong" & "pills" are completely off topic. The topic is sustainability not your morals. Introducing your moralistic terms = communication breakdown.

    I merely responded to the cultural myth that ppl "need meat". It's simply false. That's all. I didn't say it was right or "wrong". But it is nutritional compromise.

  • Oh I missunderstood you the fist time.

    The only way to sustain animal populations is hunting.

    Other options would be simply killing the animals No one not even hunters would aprove of this option witch is common for large Predators. I once reported a black bear I saw sitting in a feild on the side of a highway on the other side a large residential area. I found out that night while watch the news that the bear was shot and killed.

    Relocate witch just moves the problem but doesn't address it.

  • "The only way to sustain animal populations is hunting"

    False. Humans kill natural predators to justify killing the predators prey. Animals sustained themselves fine before feral human exploiters arrived.

    "Other options would be simply killing the animals"

    That's what hunters do..

  • Hunters don't "Just kill the animals" they kill them then eat them.

    constavation officers kill them then cremate them. they die for nothing.

    If hunting is banned alot of animals will be put down by constavation animals.

  • EXCELENT Video! Factual and informative. Anti's have a deeply rooted emotional investment in their misguided ideology and are not willing or able to see the truth. Videos like this one however, can and DO make a difference on those out there who just have not made decisions on the issue, keep up the good work.

  • I'm honored by your kind words, Jeeper. Thank you for the much-needed support. True, the anti-hunting cults seem to approach it from strictly emotional levels. If only I could teach folks not to think with their emotions .. that's not what emotions are for!

  • I'm not going to fight a battle of wits with an unarmed person Tierra/Tia/Sophia/whomever you are. Go away.

  • Where did that vitriol come from? I asked a simple question; I have never and will never insult someone with slurs.

    Obviously, you are incapable or unwilling to discuss an issue on an intellectual level, instead relying on harassment, name calling and questionable statistics. Your concept of ethics apparently does not extend to humans; therefore, your 'work' is invalidated and reduced to simple playground bullying.

    Come back when you've matured enough to carry on an adult conversation.

  • You also should know that the Mediterraneans eat fish, pork, chicken and beef. Same with the Japanese.

    The biggest meat eaters are actually the Inuits, Aborigines, and the Manoi.

  • Yeah, don't let Sophia get to you. Her Anti-Hunter videos are more emotional and less intellectual.

    She has the gall to compare her hunting sabs to freeing the slaves.

    to me, Hunter Harassment is Hunter Harassment.

    Just keep on hunting, and don't let those antis stop you with their flagging.

  • You live in a city, don't you? By your frequent mention of signage, you must not realize deer cannot read? They do not know where they are supposed to cross, and they can/will cross anywhere, including over freeway fences and concrete dividers. Believe me, we do not WANT to hit them .. they have the potential to kill every passenger in the vehicle.

    As far as your comment on obtaining nutrition from sources God intended ..God gave us the animals, too, WITH instructions on their preparation.

  • Lies? Deer can only understand what is within the scope of their environment, including predation, mating, feeding etc. A fast moving Chevy is so far beyond their level of understanding that they get themselves into dangerous situations.

  • Respectfully disagree; many folks do not realize the level of commitment required to be vegan so failure to thrive is extremely common, lacking B12, D, Calcium, Iron, proteins.

    Also, many claiming to be vegan are vegetarian.

    Folks eating deer meat get some of the vegetarian diet benefits because there are no additives as with store bought meat.

    So, you might want to reconsider those inaccurate, sweeping generalizations because venison IS NOT the same as store bought cancer-laden meat.

  • Girl's got a point. Wild game is much more leaner than cattle.

    Not only that but Glazlad10 stated that we drink and smoke.

    Here's some fact, I'm not a heavy drinker, and I hate the smell of cigarette smoke.

    Another fact that man cannot naturally digest Fiber (without the aid of E Coli bacteria) or Cellulose.

  • Thank you, Choujin. Non-smoker and non-drinker here, too.

    So much for G10's (TierraC44) so-called facts. Most of the hunters I know are not smokers or heavy drinkers....it's darn difficult to hike through Missouri woodlands if you're a smoker :)

  • nahh the vegans dont want you to know all of this

  • What do you people not understand? Without proper management of our wildlife there will be NO environment to evolve to. Plain and simple. More lies are posted on youtube everyday by anti-hunters, and everyday they get more disgusting. If you can not handle the stone cold facts about how the human race is responsible for maintaining safe numbers in wildlife populations, and without all the money that states make and use from hunting liscences and fees you would HAVE no wildlife,then just spare me

  • I couldn't agree with you more.

  • Without natural predators, human population has skyrocketed. If an alien race finds us and sees what we are doing to the planet, we should allow them to kill as many of us as it takes to stop us from causing any more harm.

    This is your logic.

    The morality of evolution needs to sink in with people. Everything alive on this planet has just as much of a right as we do to evolve to its environment's conditions.

  • agreed.

  • ahhhh but we do have predation on the human race. Consider viruses, bacteria, disease, toxins, Mother Nature and our own stupidity.

    Humans have killed off most deer predators (wolves, wild cats). Shouldn't have, but did. There is no other logical way to keep deer populations in check except thoughtful stewardship of remaining resources. Left unchecked, deer would wipe out new growth forests in short order; i.e. make the Amazon slash & burn practices look like conservation efforts.

  • The problem with your logic is that you feel that "everything alive on this planet has just as much of a right as we do". That is far from the truth

  • We destroy. Everything else is doing its part in their given ecosystem as best they can. What is your reasoning? Religious? We evolved to be superior? No reasoning will make sense to me, or anyone else that sees the big picture. I'm sorry if you can't. I really am.

  • Yes we destroy. We as a people are killing this planet. We have not been good stewards of this planet, but being a respectful hunter is one way that we can be.

  • Yes, how rude of them to be living their life. How rude for them to be walking in front of our vehicals. What a bunch of assholes. Look in the fucking mirror. We are the most dangerous mammal on the planet. You fucking idiot.

  • Nice to meet you. I see you are a camera operator? How's the career? I have five ITVA awards, three of which are 1st place and all earned within one year. You?

    By the way, have you considered an anti-anxiety medication? Meditation? Simply stepping away from the keyboard? Reconsider your current path or you'll be having stress related disorders before you are middle aged.