Demolition of the Christian religion in these subjects proved historically that Jesus ate how you can have the characteristics of Jesus the Creator depends on something, a creature of food to stay alive, and honest with himself and thinks now is the right and you will be a logical conclusion that Jesus and his mother, human beings 100%
Evidence of a Creator is one, but has no human qualities
There is a choice for everything, God gives us a decision for everything we do. Either we do the right thing or the bad thing. For example Adam an Eve had the decision to not go to the forbidden tree or go to the forbidden tree, unfortunately they chose the wrong path. Each situation we make has two choices we can make, it's a test that some people sadly fail
@MsBlackbeauty007 A few problems. This assumes God exists, Adam and Eve did not know of good and evil and could have no possible way of knowing going to the forbidden tree was bad, almost every situation has more than two choices, and there are things in the grey area not evil or good.
@MsBlackbeauty007 Use logic,shunning away facts,talking about stories that have no relavence just to make someone think they're wrong does not make you right,or superior.Make sense in your next comment or you will be marked as spam;give more than quotes,and speak for yourself;please respond.
@24Sparetine7 to it that the uncertainty makes evolution false. I accept that science can't and may not answer everything, but the idea or mentality that the uncertainty is the kicker is not a valid argument. I would rather get rid of as much "what if" and that my beliefs are true instead of just having faith that they are, wouldn't you? I admit my disbelief could be wrong, can you admit that your belief could be as well?
@24Sparetime7 It's not that I find it easier to believe or that it's easier to understand what a scientist says. It's that I accept what a scientist or science presents and is able to prove as fact. I understand that facts can be wrong and nothing in this world is absolute or a certainty. Evolution has and is happening no matter how one doesn't want to accept it, but it's not an absolute or a certainty, scientists admit this. But the error is, not getting rid of this certainty but holding on to
@bully290994 "but i just cant see why you wouldnt believe in God" Do believe the god(s) of other religions; Hinduism etc? If not, why? Should not be difficult to understand why I don't believe in your god.
If youre a person who expect reasons from God all the time,then it is impossible for you to acquire Christian faith.What you are hindered by is the lack of evidence and incomprehensible actions of God in the Bible.And you see that believing in the theories and mindsets of the scientists is easier to understand or simply makes more sense.One thing that you would understand from being a Christian before:Understanding God comes from the heart and soul,not from the mind and body.Reasons will follow.
@bully290994 Your mentality is very sad and pathetic. Just because I am an atheist doesn't mean I don't value my life, the lives of my family and everything life has to offer. If you feel you need god to make you realize what life has to offer, then what's the point? The fear of punishment or hope of reward after death is no way I want to live, but I can respect your beliefs if that's how you want to live your life.
@jdale1 i just really believe that we are anything without God. I am sure your amazing and your family is, but i just cant see why you wouldnt believe in God
@vancouvergadgets cuz theists dominate the society and they constantly try to force religion down their throats!
And i speak this from a deist point of view, one who is not biased to either side. I have to admit, Christianity really does have a bad reputation for preaching to those who don't want to hear it.
Atheism is not a default position. It's a remarkable claim to state that an intelligent being created the universe. But it's equally remarkable to claim that a universe equipped with the potential to produce mutating DNA that drives evolution just 'happened.' Why not a universe with a single type of atom? Why not a universe with matter that can't interact to produce more complex objects? Why ours? There's just not enough scientific evidence to make any scientific claims about God or His absence.
Why do people always fight over this shit... neither the Christians not Atheists, nor whatever the hell you are will ever win. Everyone thinks they're right, but no one is... smh...
so your atheist, this means i could shoot you in the face, and it means nothing because without God we are just simple particals. people that dont believe in a God make NO sense
Good on you - it takes a brave and intelligent man/woman to look squarely into the face of evidence and discount ideas that where previously seen to be true and which shaped their life.
You are lost and before you try to argue with me about how much you know you should get your facts straight. You are to stupid to be an athiest. The devil temps us. Not God. God is always inviting people to be in his kingdom and it is our choice to be with him. Please reply after researching and have knowledge on the topic otherwise our arguement is pointless.
You will feel God in you heart if you ask sincerely for him. Biology actually upholds God. God put us on earth to determine ,ourselves, where we want to go for eternity. This is why God says we have free will. You are a mere human. You have no idea how large the universe is. Beyond this earth you know nothing. You are looking for an excuse to sin. I have also studied biology and understand other atheist's perspectives. If you have anything to say back to me please respond i will be glad.
@matttyler1000 He gave us free will yet tempts us relentlessly with sin, knowing that our very nature defey's he's commandments and if you studied biology then you would know that this is true as we are programed to mate, kill and commit "sin".
If God was real and he did want people to just blindly follow him without anything concrete and those who doub't him get stoned to death. I wouldn't want to be with a person like that, would you?
I have to say, I did expect better. There are a number of criticisms I can make, but the biggest is the idea that the "default" position is that of atheism, or materialism. There is NO logical or rational reason for such an assertion, and flailing around Occam in an improper use of his razor doesn't make it so. It is not only arbitrary, but creates more problems than it ever resolves. Ultimately it destroys the basis for science itself, which is grounded on uniformity.
I've found irreducible molecular machines along with having absolutely no source for the information in DNA as strong evidence of some kind of engineer and designer.
@TheMikeSideGallery "I've found irreducible molecular machines along with having absolutely no source for the information in DNA as strong evidence of some kind of engineer and designer."
Well, I'd say probably agnosticism is the default position and I hope the silly creationists don't ruin Christianity in anyone else's eyes. And it really doesn't come a shock to me that everything can be explained by science...which is the study of the natural world..
The only good reason I found is at 5:00 of why God waited so long.But you need to remember that only 2% of the entire human population in history had come before Christ.Not solving the problem completely but is a small step.
God wanted me to tell you THE BIBLE PREDICTS EVOLUTION. Romans 1:25 They exchanged the truth for a lie, And worshiped and served created things rather the Creator-- Who is forever praised. Romans 1:22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools "How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation?" Hebrews 2:3
IF DINOSAURS DIDNT LIVE WITH HUMANS.. EXPLAIN WHY THERE IS PICS OF THE HUMANS DRAWING THEM HOW COULD THEY DRAW THEM IF THE CAVEMEN DIDNT KNOW WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE... /watch?v=x3FJ0qlD50E THEREFORE DINOSAUR LIVED WITH MAN
OK you were so shocked when you found out EVOLUTIONS BELIEFS... But you just said before you werent really that big of a christian... Your parents were... So Which is it SIR?
My questions have been, if God is without Sin and cannot stand darkness, then why does he say, I form the light and create darkness, I create good and evil, I the Lord do all these things.... Why does he command the slaughter of woman and children, and yet He says you shall not kill. Isn't killing a sin?? There seems to be a contradiction here.
@1xThreeDaysGrace1x Why do Christians think they know it all! So self-righteous. You are wrong! You took it out of context. Christians always try to justify their god's behavior. Why do you people want to worship a dictator?? Your idea of love is insane.
@1xThreeDaysGrace1x "He created evil so LOVE can have a choice. God is love. He gave us a choice"
That is the WORST, most idiodic and most convalouted way to give someone choice, not to mention immorall!!
Thats like buying a fire extinguisher soo you have a choice of setting fire, or giving a child a knife soo he has a choice to cut himself, all it will do is cause problems and that is not even remotely called "love" and all for the sake of giving us the illusion of "choice".
@1xThreeDaysGrace1x He created darkness so we might be blind and burn in Hell. He created darkness so we might not know our true selves and that he might rule over us as a tyrannical dictator.
@JorEl7771 It is really quite simple. God did create the heavens and the earth. But in science we say it differently. We call it the natural laws of the universe.
So God set the natural laws of the universe and everything must follow Gods Laws. EVERYTHING follows God's laws. There is no way to avoid it. God is all powerful.
So that means even Evolution MUST follow the natural laws of the universe God set.
Denying evolution is no different than denying gravity and is denying God.
God never created evil, God created Adam and Eve who sinned. Satan was a fallen angel by his own choice. God didn't create their evil, they did that on their own. When you say that he commanded the slaughter of women and children I'm not so sure what you mean. If you mean like God destroying Sodom and Gomorrah then you have to hear the whole story. The evil of that place was so terrible that nearly every soul turned from God.
@StuffedAnimalPlanet #3 God didn't create evil. What bible verse says that? (Seriously, tell me so I can read it) Evil was created as a nessecary side-effect of free will. God wants us to be good, but more than that, he wants us to choose to be good. However, he wants us to live with our choice, which is why sin is punished.
@StuffedAnimalPlanet - I've never been spanked. And I have been in too many debates, it's obvious where you're going with this. You're going to attempt to compare God's threat of everlasting torture to a parent disciplining their child. No. Torture is not discipline.
@Critic863 Perhaps here's a better way of better way of putting it. God is perfect. He lives in heaven. Imperfection cannot enter heaven (To be continued)
@StuffedAnimalPlanet - So say we have a rat in a maze looking for the cheese. If he doesn't make it through these obstacles and get the cheese in a limited time, he dies?
@StuffedAnimalPlanet However, people willing to seperate themselves from their sin, willing to cleanse themselves by faith, may go to heaven thanks to JC over there.
@StuffedAnimalPlanet - You're implying that this God does not have a divine plan. If everything we do in our lives is documented in his divine plan, there is no such thing as free will. Until you say that I was created, you need to give a logical reason to think there is a creator.
@JorEl7771 It's because "God" was originally the god of war; Yahweh Sabaoth, in the pantheistic Babylon religion. He became the monotheistic god of everything after half of everything was done, but until then, he was still the god of war and death, and acted like it.
@JorEl7771 Great comment! I agree. Also when god said "let there be light" how did he actually SAY IT. There were no humans, thus there were no literate languages where did he get it from. its obviously a flawed book made by humans
My "religion" is Star Wars lol. May the Force be with you. I am no longer Christian because of the hypocracy, hate, fearmongering and the amount of violence in the bible. Seems like the bible was written by a bunch of Sith Lords lol. Remember The Sith feeds off emotions - fears etc.
You should repent. Moreover, you should ask God for eternal forgiveness through applying the death and resurrection of Jesus to your life of sin within the quietness of your bedroom tonight. As an unrepentant sinner myself, I made this decision around 15 years ago. This is the most important decision that you could ever make. - Romans 10:9-10
proof for God look at the of Israel and the Bible account about them.
if evolution is true then please explain the lack of life outside of earth. if the big bang occurred then we must be honest and say that the same kind of life on earth should have evolved around us or are we as arrogant to think that earth is the only special place in the vastness of the cosmos I seem to read in the Bible that God made it all and put life on earth and man to be in charge of it and the evidence points to that
there is an explanation for god..... his great works that he has begun in all of us and the miracles that he has given us.... if u want to see this for yourself then seek out god... James 4:8 says come near to God and he will come near to you... this is the greatest truth i have ever known
The null hypothesis thing is one of the best example of thiest hypocrisy - for EVERYTHING else it's the right way up, but for claims about their god, they turn it upside down. The atheist doesn't make this exception (or, at least, TRIES not to).
Needless human suffering caused by genetic problems and such is enough to have no faith for me. I guess my definition of love is different than most Christians.
Why are we no longer a christian? The answer is simple, in the first place, there is no christian in what we were talking in the other realms. The truth is if we just make good deeds done but not faith alone, which is the will of God. then we could notice all men are equal.
WOW! Your mastery of science is just extraordinary. Why don't you live by your own belief in null hypothesis and prove the affirmative that evolution can drive singular cellular organisms to multi-cellular self replicating ones. How about you explain how evolution can demonstrate land animals to water bound such as the whale. Why don't you show us what was before the Big Bang.
Oh wait you can't! You might want to spend some more time on research before you actually put out a video.
@DonExodus2 I have claimed many times that Creation Science is a deception. Symbolically we can call that deception "Satan". This isn't proof creationism=Satanism, but it is strong anecdotal evidence. Your "deconversion" and your stated reasons why is just one more small piece of anecdotal evidence.
I hope you realise in the end it is not your relationship with one of the various religious sects invented by Mankind that matters. Even the name "Christian" is but a construct into Man's language.
all i know is, as a former atheist, i died back in 2009. It was the scariest experience of my life and when i got back into my body and started breathing again, i became a believer in Christ and that very day, I repented of my sinful lifestyle. That night, I had a dream I was looking in the mirror and I was glowing and in perfect form. I think that was the day I was born again because every day since then, I'm reminded of his teachings; it's like his words are a part of me now.
@sinimabeats I once had a dream I was falling into a volcano. I woke up, and then realized, that volcano was a symbol for my sinful lifestyle. So I took on His noodley appendage and now I am a Pastafarian. Your dream was bogus. be a Pastafarian and SEE rAmen.
Do you really believe that humans descend from one of those weird cambrian marine creatures?
I did ask this before, no answer, will you please answer this time...I mean, it blows my mind how is it that you changed your mind from a God believing to a weird cambrian marine creatures human ancestry believing... will you please answer to me
@realhomosapiens How long do you think it takes to get from a "weird cambrian marine creature" to a mammal? If you are REALLY interested in having it explained in simple easy to grasp terms and fun to read, so you can weigh both sides and really decide, I suggest "The Magic Of Reality" by Dawkins. It's really written at the teen level but I liked it alot.
Now I know what evolutionist really believe. Good luck.
Well horseshoe crabs have been roaming the planet for so long...time is irrelevant...
So basically you believe that your great-great-great-grandpa was one of those weird cambrian marine creatures, right? and that evolution was the driving force behind such an unsurmoutable transformation? hmmm, I don´t you, but I´m not gullible enough to believe is such a scientific fairy tale, do you? no te esponges....jejejeje
@d007ization Gotcha...I caught that too. I considered it a slip of the tongue and didn't think it important to the point he was making. MAybe I missed something. Cheers!
This was really interesting. What finally did it for me was after 50 years of being a believer I finally sat down and read the Bible for myself. That pretty much did it right there. The second was that I created a mental model of sacrificing a perfect innocent being to pay for someone's act of evil. I imagined sacrificing my pet kitten for myself robbing a bank to make it all okay again. That finished for good.
How can you study Theology for four years, and convert from Christianity? You can't place science and Christianity on the same scale. Christianity is real, and I would think that someone who was a Christian and grew up in a Christian family would know that, right?
@pfecjnizzle2013 try it. after studying the bible, church history , and also science for 4 years, you will be making your own video. Christianity is real in the sense that islam, buddhism, and 'trekkies' are real.
The null hypothesis actually is what scientists seek to disprove. So with the cancer curing sandwich, the null hypothesis would be that that the sandwich did not cure cancer and there was no relationship between the two things. The scientist would then provide evidence that the sandwich did cure cancer, thereby rejecting the null hypothesis. Therefore the null hypothesis is actually the default position, it is not the idea that there is no default position. I suppose this is a bit pedantic...
Evil-solution is not provable in the laboratory, hence only a theory, belief, hypothesis, true science is demonstrable and experientially observed, It,evolution, is not an applicable science, therefore requires a belief in the unprovable,hence,a religious system at most.
"Evil-solution is not provable in the laboratory" - except for when it has been proved using experiments that have proffited humanity in the feild of medicine and agriculture like to observation of Barcterial and Virus evolution.
@whiteowl1415 Louis Pasteur comes to my mind and being raised in France he was Catholic and according to my understanding after loosing part of his family to disease found the sterilization process .Concerning the creation of live I have witnessed it. happening all around us , procreation. In the lab the rabbit dies.No one will ever bring inanimate material to live and produce a kind.bacterial resistance is just that, it mutates.in reproduction, abnormalities are often aborted.
"This is the first synthetic cell that's been made," said Venter. "We call it synthetic because the cell is totally derived from a synthetic chromosome, made with four bottles of chemicals on a chemical synthesizer, starting with information in a computer."
@whiteowl141w This is my departing statement : We are getting no where butting heads. I Ieave with you the request that you watch A Rood Awakening and abstain from any bias if you dare .Good-bye.I must move on to other endeavors.
@whiteowl1415 A positive gain of information,and expansion through duplicating that result (upgrade) would be a step forward.it just does not happen with mutation,that is a genetic lose of information .A kind by my definition is any particular group with in the animal kingdom that has the capacity to interbreed and produce an offspring either a sterile mule or capable of repropegating as a subspecies. The genes have limitations.
@TheAgateman1 You keep using that temr,..information, and operating under the mistaken impression that you have to increase iot to make something change or improve. Mice have had huge areas of DNA removed and are still mice. Ever think that evolution might include streamlining out excess crap thats getting in the way?
"A kind by my definition is any particular group with in the animal kingdom that has the capacity to interbreed and produce an offspring either a sterile mule or capable of repropegating as a subspecies"
There are Dogs incapable of interbreeding with different types of dogs geneticly not jsut physicaly.
Ergo: Either by your deffinition we have created a new "Kind" or our pressumed inability to breed with other apes is no barrier to "Kind"
Atheism is great. Religion, to me, is bullshit. Problem is: the religious do not see that. They've been brainwashed. Of course, they will not aproove this. They were raised like that.
But i was blessed to have a relative who educated me more on the bible and God. But i want to challenge you to do more researching. If you kinda left off since your childhood days of ''oh God..yeah Hes..kool" & moved to the complete opposite of the chart and gave more time to study science, I challenge u to read the (nt)the book of revelations. Thouroghly. No skipping lines. Give it some real thought. Whatever ur beliefs. When you are done, contact me. I want to kno your thoughts.ill be waiting
Doesnt make you love them any less but it hurts. Because you know the dangerous world. But you taught them to know right from wrong and hope they will use ur lessons to use in life and help their kids and others they meet when they get to that point. Think about how Jesus feels. I know you grew up in a household where you kinda had an idea but it was a bit for show. My parents were like that when it came to goint to church. They believe it but they dnt take it seriously as they kno they should.
People choose to believe what they want to and to a certain amount. I agree. When you have a kid and you love them with all your heart and break your back for them, including favors they dont see, and want whats best for them bc you know how life works and you try to warn them about the hardships in life. You do it because you LOVE them. But one day they will grow & will make their own choices. But u taught them well. But kids rebel. They will do things that go agianst what uve taught them.
Do you understand why Jesus was sacrificed for? Do you understand God is the foundation and was not created by another just because we, humans, are created that way? Theres a difference between the two. Do you know human sinful acts are from our own desires? God does not tempt ppl. Do you know God wants us to be good and help people? It is because He loves us & wants us to not hurt others, reachout to those n need, not be greedy, love. What do you have when people turn away and dont listen?
Yeah, actualy, he was "sacrificed" because he was one of a dozen or so would be messiahs, and the Roman empire was sick of the rebelions these men were stirring up.
As a result, Roman officaials demanded he be executed or they would take it out on the City.
The Jewish leaders turned him over because he wasn't worth risking the wholse city of Jerusalem for.
@whiteowl1415 Have you ever concluded, imposters may be evidence of the existence of the genuine article? Only one, passed the litmus test and supersedes all others. He is declared in the volume of The Book and if some one comes on the scene declaring to be The Christ and fills "the magic slipper" to a tee with un-self fulfilled prophecies, like 100s of them,written 100s of years prior, a truth seeker would weigh the evidence,to the favor of that truthful one.
"The Christ and fills "the magic slipper" to a tee with un-self fulfilled prophecies, like 100s of them,written 100s of years prior, a truth seeker would weigh the evidence,to the favor of that truthful one"
Except he dosn't fufil the prophecies. The story written about him after the fact aligns to SOME nonprophectic verse IF those verses are taken very metaphoricly or through por translation instead of Hebrew texts
I feel sorry you feel this way. But I am not going to be one of those Christians who try to prove their point in a harsh negative way. There are many things people don't understand, we are simply human. But just as there are things we can't explain things religiously there also things we equally can't explain scientifically. We all have a mission in life that ppl dnt bother to fullfill like helping others. So we have ppl starving. Dnt compare human acts to a GOD. I challenge uto reread the bible
When theists say that infants die because god wants to take them back, it sounds absolutely crazy. Why were they born in the first place? My baby daughter died 20 years ago. I was an atheist then and I'm still an atheist, that didn't change my mind in any way. If I were a christian I could never have made sense of it, but I know that sometimes tragic things happen, and there doesn't have to be a reason. Bad things happen sometimes, so do good things, no god required.
You said in the beginning that you weren't really "religious" even when you were supposedly a Christian. How then can you deconvert or leave Christianity when you were never a true Christian to begin with?
Please look up the definition of "begs the question", you use it incorrectly here. I normally don't make critiques of this type but that drives me crazy, especially when arguing a point.
@Mirewood "not at all, it s being objective with the information"
Not exactly. If it were objective agnostics would say, "we cannot know and we never will be able to know because..." instead of saying" I don't know now but its possible to know in the future if...".
"1+1=2 someone might believe its 3"
A knowledge based belief is not always correct. When I say knowledge, I simply mean there is some reason, or piece of knowledge, that leads to a conclusion.
All evil in this world is the consequences of man's falling out of God's grace due to sin. God threathened Adam with death (that includes calaminities) if he disobeys God. Adam did and so what's surprising about the evil and man's many msifortunes that we see all around us. The evil of this world in fact proves the existence of God who said that would exactly happened if Adam disobeys him.
@csdr0 sorry but it was god who made sin .If you made a fork in the road when was just one way at first then put a sign saying go this way and someone else telling you to go the other way.EVEN IF YOU DID WENT THE WAY YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO WHO MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU. O and dont say we did we did not make a fucking forbidden tree they just ate from it
The argument that God did not exist because he only sent his Son after thousand of years watching humans die & doing nothing is not an argument for God's non-existence. This is doubting his goodness based on the author's human standards. If God's intention for killing infants is to speed up their entry into heaven, then what's wrong with that? As Creator he has killing rights. God's sending punishment is not a proof of his mistake it was a fulfillment of his threat to deal with man's sins.
The reason why the Universe has always existed is because the Big Bang shows it did not always exist. The question now is how did it come into existence? Hawking said it came about by spontaneously creating itself because of the law of gravity. So, something coming out from nothing. Whew! You cannot ask the question what created God because unlike the Universe you cannot show that God began to exist. God does not have his own Big Bang.
@Mirewood This definition you give of agnostic atheist is traditionally what it thought of as being an agnostic.
"As an agnostic you would recognize that with the information that is currently available we cannot know"
You mean then agnostics say we cannot know now but we could know in the future. That seems to be a subjective position to hold but treated as if it were an objective one, because it assumes something about everyone's knowledge when it only applies to themselves.
@Mirewood "but I realize that this is ultimately a faith based belief, not a knowledge based one."
That seems to be contradictory to the meaning of faith, since faith is complete trust, which would mean anyone with faith would at least think they have enough knowledge to propose the idea as if it was conclusive. So, to them, faith is a knowledge based belief. That's why theists say they "know" heaven exists.
@Mirewood "A Gnostic Atheist claims they are 100% right and they know there is no God"
Another problem arises. If atheism is a lack of belief, then why are these so called "gnostic" atheists believing that God does not exist? Its all very inconsistent.
@Mirewood "An Agnostic Theist believes that there is a god but admits that they could be wrong"
See, here's the problem with these definitions. Since you want atheism to be lack of belief because of the prefix 'a', you also must follow the same rules for other words. Agnostic means without knowledge, so you can't have, or think you have, knowledge of the existence of God, and at the same time admit that knowledge may be wrong. Because if it might be wrong, its not "knowledge".
@Mirewood If agnosticism is not a belief then that contradicts what Banile was saying -- that agnostics believe they cannot know about the existence of God. I disagree with you though, Agnosticism - indicted by the suffix "ism" is a belief, a belief that its possible that God exists, they are just unsure. So they suspend belief in believing that God exists or does not exist, but at the same time, believing that its possible God might exist.
@Mirewood It seems to me that traditionally, meaning in the past, agnostic simply meant one who does not know if God exists or not. At least, that is my understanding.
When Christians tell me that Christianity is a relationship, not a religion, they're saying that based on what it means t be a Christian, and that is to be a follower of Christ who had a dependent relationship with God, and not just go to church and say you're a believer.
I agree. I was sent on a Creation Tour, and they taught Creationism and the evidence they showed me did not convince me so I researched and stuff and that's how I came to question my religion. But if I told my mom that I was not going to be Christian anymore, it would break her heart.
@nazra7 Also, most christians, infact most religous people are by definition agnostic theists.
They dont have knowledge of god, they have faith in god. It even states in most holy books that god without faith is nothing, faith without god is nothing.
You know those mutha fucka's we all dislike that claim to know the mind of god, usually fundamentalists, they are Gnostic theists.
They claim not only belief but knowledge of god, but i think most people know they're talking shit
For me the concept is very simple. Either you believe it's more logical that everything came from nothing (was started by nothing) or that everything came from something. It doesn't have to be any more complicated than that.
Yeah, there may be ''evidence'' of evolution, but no knowledge on the Origin of the 1st living cell, evidence for "natural selection", but no explanation of how a mindless accidental mutation can create huge volumes of information, & intelligence. Millions of transitional fossils missing, yet all living beings evolved from a 'fish'..isn't Evolution another religion?..a system that fails to explain the evidence?
The fact that Evolution as a mechanism "does There may be ''evidence'' of evolution, but no knowledge on the Origin of the 1st living cell, evidence for "natural selection", but no explanation of how a mindless accidental mutation can create huge volumes of information, & intelligence. Millions of transitional fossils missing, yet all living beings evolved from a 'fish'..isn't Evolution another religion?..a system that fails to explain the evidence?
So it seems you became an atheist because creationists don't make a very good case for their beliefs. That's ok for a personal view, but I hope you don't dog other Christians for believing in God. Not all Christians are creationists, and creationism is not at the core of Christianity either way. Thanks for sharing your video Don Exodus.
Atheism is not a default position since the lack of belief in God comes after you have a concept of God since the lack of belief in God is merely rejecting arguments for God's existence.. Please read Anthony Flew's book: The Presumption of Atheism.
@nazra7 Would you mind explaining what IS the default position? Because it seems to me that suspension of belief or non belief IS STILL a lack of belief. But that's just my take on it.
@chuckwagon1645 A justified atheist would claims burden of evidence for the theist due to lack of evidence for the theist. This means a concept of theism rejecting arguments for it because of lack of evidence is needed before one can truly be considered an atheist.
And before that atheist rejects the theist's argument, they have neither a concept of theism nor a volition to be skeptical of it, and thus are not an atheist. This is the default position. Neither atheist or theist.
@nazra7 This middle ground your speaking of is a state of non belief. If you do not have a concept of god then you sure as hell STILL DO NOT HOLD A BELIEF IN HIM. This is the very definition of atheism sir. Google works wonders. The atheist rejects theist claims due to lack of evidence and he is perfectly justified in remaining in that position. The theist has the burden of proof. Your mistaken dude.
@chuckwagon1645 Atheists are wanting to define atheism as a lack of belief, but when we define words we are ascribing a word to something in reality. In this case, atheism is being ascribed to people who lack belief. So all atheists lack belief, but not all people who lack belief are necessarily atheists. To suggest otherwise is a non-sequitur since its equally possible that lacking belief has nothing to do with being skeptical of theism.
@nazra7 Atheism is a useless term in my opinion but in "REALITY" it is exactly what I said it was. It is a LACK OF BELIEF in a deity. There are no requirements as to why someone lacks the belief. Some take it a step further and claim that a deity does not exist for a fact but that is an unfounded position and carries a burden of proof. The default position in the context of theology is atheism. Your trying to apply it to every other context. So I can see where you are getting it mixed up.
@chuckwagon1645 The problem with trying to say that all people that lack belief is an atheist is that goes against what all self-proclaimed atheist has in common - skepticism of theism. No self-proclaim atheist does not have a concept of god and/or gods. Thus a concept of god/gods and theism is a necessary condition coupled with being skeptical of it in order to be able to define some one as an atheist, thus atheism cannot be the default position.
@nazra7 Skepticism has nothing to do with it. If you lack belief in a deity then you are by definition an atheist. You have obviously been misinformed on the definition of atheism.
God is real and He loves you.
SummerSunshine1988 22 hours ago
I suppose your Agnostic.
glenjacobs423 2 days ago
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Demolition of the Christian religion in these subjects proved historically that Jesus ate how you can have the characteristics of Jesus the Creator depends on something, a creature of food to stay alive, and honest with himself and thinks now is the right and you will be a logical conclusion that Jesus and his mother, human beings 100%
Evidence of a Creator is one, but has no human qualities
TheDREAMSAUDI 2 days ago
There is a choice for everything, God gives us a decision for everything we do. Either we do the right thing or the bad thing. For example Adam an Eve had the decision to not go to the forbidden tree or go to the forbidden tree, unfortunately they chose the wrong path. Each situation we make has two choices we can make, it's a test that some people sadly fail
MsBlackbeauty007 2 weeks ago
@MsBlackbeauty007 And you seriously believe that there once was a 'forbidden tree?'
AthenasEve 2 weeks ago
@MsBlackbeauty007 A few problems. This assumes God exists, Adam and Eve did not know of good and evil and could have no possible way of knowing going to the forbidden tree was bad, almost every situation has more than two choices, and there are things in the grey area not evil or good.
Dimitriexeno 5 days ago
@MsBlackbeauty007 Use logic,shunning away facts,talking about stories that have no relavence just to make someone think they're wrong does not make you right,or superior.Make sense in your next comment or you will be marked as spam;give more than quotes,and speak for yourself;please respond.
randomguy983 5 days ago
Dee fuq?
ItsARaqier 3 weeks ago
he forgot to thank stephen baldwin.
sergeanthugostiglitz 3 weeks ago
@24Sparetine7 to it that the uncertainty makes evolution false. I accept that science can't and may not answer everything, but the idea or mentality that the uncertainty is the kicker is not a valid argument. I would rather get rid of as much "what if" and that my beliefs are true instead of just having faith that they are, wouldn't you? I admit my disbelief could be wrong, can you admit that your belief could be as well?
jdale1 4 weeks ago
@24Sparetime7 It's not that I find it easier to believe or that it's easier to understand what a scientist says. It's that I accept what a scientist or science presents and is able to prove as fact. I understand that facts can be wrong and nothing in this world is absolute or a certainty. Evolution has and is happening no matter how one doesn't want to accept it, but it's not an absolute or a certainty, scientists admit this. But the error is, not getting rid of this certainty but holding on to
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@bully290994 "but i just cant see why you wouldnt believe in God" Do believe the god(s) of other religions; Hinduism etc? If not, why? Should not be difficult to understand why I don't believe in your god.
jdale1 4 weeks ago
If youre a person who expect reasons from God all the time,then it is impossible for you to acquire Christian faith.What you are hindered by is the lack of evidence and incomprehensible actions of God in the Bible.And you see that believing in the theories and mindsets of the scientists is easier to understand or simply makes more sense.One thing that you would understand from being a Christian before:Understanding God comes from the heart and soul,not from the mind and body.Reasons will follow.
24Sparetime7 1 month ago
@bully290994 Your mentality is very sad and pathetic. Just because I am an atheist doesn't mean I don't value my life, the lives of my family and everything life has to offer. If you feel you need god to make you realize what life has to offer, then what's the point? The fear of punishment or hope of reward after death is no way I want to live, but I can respect your beliefs if that's how you want to live your life.
jdale1 1 month ago
@jdale1 i just really believe that we are anything without God. I am sure your amazing and your family is, but i just cant see why you wouldnt believe in God
bully290994 4 weeks ago
Why do atheists always sound so angry an inpatient?
vancouvergadgets 1 month ago
@vancouvergadgets cuz theists dominate the society and they constantly try to force religion down their throats!
And i speak this from a deist point of view, one who is not biased to either side. I have to admit, Christianity really does have a bad reputation for preaching to those who don't want to hear it.
Casshyr 1 month ago
Atheism is not a default position. It's a remarkable claim to state that an intelligent being created the universe. But it's equally remarkable to claim that a universe equipped with the potential to produce mutating DNA that drives evolution just 'happened.' Why not a universe with a single type of atom? Why not a universe with matter that can't interact to produce more complex objects? Why ours? There's just not enough scientific evidence to make any scientific claims about God or His absence.
1nstrument 1 month ago
And who is the author of the scientific or natural explanations you've discovered?
FreekZine 1 month ago
Why do people always fight over this shit... neither the Christians not Atheists, nor whatever the hell you are will ever win. Everyone thinks they're right, but no one is... smh...
ILovemyPinkElephant 1 month ago
so your atheist, this means i could shoot you in the face, and it means nothing because without God we are just simple particals. people that dont believe in a God make NO sense
bully290994 1 month ago
@bully290994 wowowfaeoihaeofjawoevjaKS
moronfifty 1 month ago
I love you. :(
SugaWalls06 1 month ago
Good on you - it takes a brave and intelligent man/woman to look squarely into the face of evidence and discount ideas that where previously seen to be true and which shaped their life.
Thumbs up!
jagara1 1 month ago
You are lost and before you try to argue with me about how much you know you should get your facts straight. You are to stupid to be an athiest. The devil temps us. Not God. God is always inviting people to be in his kingdom and it is our choice to be with him. Please reply after researching and have knowledge on the topic otherwise our arguement is pointless.
matttyler1000 1 month ago
You will feel God in you heart if you ask sincerely for him. Biology actually upholds God. God put us on earth to determine ,ourselves, where we want to go for eternity. This is why God says we have free will. You are a mere human. You have no idea how large the universe is. Beyond this earth you know nothing. You are looking for an excuse to sin. I have also studied biology and understand other atheist's perspectives. If you have anything to say back to me please respond i will be glad.
matttyler1000 1 month ago
@matttyler1000 He gave us free will yet tempts us relentlessly with sin, knowing that our very nature defey's he's commandments and if you studied biology then you would know that this is true as we are programed to mate, kill and commit "sin".
If God was real and he did want people to just blindly follow him without anything concrete and those who doub't him get stoned to death. I wouldn't want to be with a person like that, would you?
PurpleStorm8 1 month ago
I have to say, I did expect better. There are a number of criticisms I can make, but the biggest is the idea that the "default" position is that of atheism, or materialism. There is NO logical or rational reason for such an assertion, and flailing around Occam in an improper use of his razor doesn't make it so. It is not only arbitrary, but creates more problems than it ever resolves. Ultimately it destroys the basis for science itself, which is grounded on uniformity.
tanstaafl72555 1 month ago
I've found irreducible molecular machines along with having absolutely no source for the information in DNA as strong evidence of some kind of engineer and designer.
TheMikeSideGallery 1 month ago
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@TheMikeSideGallery "I've found irreducible molecular machines along with having absolutely no source for the information in DNA as strong evidence of some kind of engineer and designer."
Very interesting...tell me more please.
TheEaglestar1 1 month ago
Well, I'd say probably agnosticism is the default position and I hope the silly creationists don't ruin Christianity in anyone else's eyes. And it really doesn't come a shock to me that everything can be explained by science...which is the study of the natural world..
The only good reason I found is at 5:00 of why God waited so long.But you need to remember that only 2% of the entire human population in history had come before Christ.Not solving the problem completely but is a small step.
markderosa 1 month ago
God wanted me to tell you THE BIBLE PREDICTS EVOLUTION. Romans 1:25 They exchanged the truth for a lie, And worshiped and served created things rather the Creator-- Who is forever praised. Romans 1:22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools "How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation?" Hebrews 2:3
1xThreeDaysGrace1x 1 month ago
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IF DINOSAURS DIDNT LIVE WITH HUMANS.. EXPLAIN WHY THERE IS PICS OF THE HUMANS DRAWING THEM HOW COULD THEY DRAW THEM IF THE CAVEMEN DIDNT KNOW WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE... /watch?v=x3FJ0qlD50E THEREFORE DINOSAUR LIVED WITH MAN
1xThreeDaysGrace1x 1 month ago
Evolution does not prove what created the first cell... Abiogensis is a HERESY
1xThreeDaysGrace1x 1 month ago
OK you were so shocked when you found out EVOLUTIONS BELIEFS... But you just said before you werent really that big of a christian... Your parents were... So Which is it SIR?
1xThreeDaysGrace1x 1 month ago
My questions have been, if God is without Sin and cannot stand darkness, then why does he say, I form the light and create darkness, I create good and evil, I the Lord do all these things.... Why does he command the slaughter of woman and children, and yet He says you shall not kill. Isn't killing a sin?? There seems to be a contradiction here.
JorEl7771 1 month ago 12
@JorEl7771 Wrong you took it out of Contex. He created evil so LOVE can have a choice. God is love. He gave us a choice...
1xThreeDaysGrace1x 1 month ago
@1xThreeDaysGrace1x Why do Christians think they know it all! So self-righteous. You are wrong! You took it out of context. Christians always try to justify their god's behavior. Why do you people want to worship a dictator?? Your idea of love is insane.
JorEl7771 1 month ago
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@1xThreeDaysGrace1x "He created evil so LOVE can have a choice. God is love. He gave us a choice"
That is the WORST, most idiodic and most convalouted way to give someone choice, not to mention immorall!!
Thats like buying a fire extinguisher soo you have a choice of setting fire, or giving a child a knife soo he has a choice to cut himself, all it will do is cause problems and that is not even remotely called "love" and all for the sake of giving us the illusion of "choice".
BULL-SHIT
PurpleStorm8 1 month ago
@JorEl7771 He created Darkness so we can have a choice.
1xThreeDaysGrace1x 1 month ago
@1xThreeDaysGrace1x He created darkness so we might be blind and burn in Hell. He created darkness so we might not know our true selves and that he might rule over us as a tyrannical dictator.
JorEl7771 1 month ago
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@JorEl7771 It is really quite simple. God did create the heavens and the earth. But in science we say it differently. We call it the natural laws of the universe.
So God set the natural laws of the universe and everything must follow Gods Laws. EVERYTHING follows God's laws. There is no way to avoid it. God is all powerful.
So that means even Evolution MUST follow the natural laws of the universe God set.
Denying evolution is no different than denying gravity and is denying God.
redddbaron 1 month ago
God never created evil, God created Adam and Eve who sinned. Satan was a fallen angel by his own choice. God didn't create their evil, they did that on their own. When you say that he commanded the slaughter of women and children I'm not so sure what you mean. If you mean like God destroying Sodom and Gomorrah then you have to hear the whole story. The evil of that place was so terrible that nearly every soul turned from God.
jakethesly1 4 weeks ago
The wrath of God was shown on Sodom and Gomorrah. but now, Jesus has accepted God's wrath for our sin.
jakethesly1 4 weeks ago
@jakethesly1 - An all loving god cannot have wrath.
Critic863 3 weeks ago
@Critic863 Your parents love you, but why do they spank you?
StuffedAnimalPlanet 2 weeks ago
@StuffedAnimalPlanet #3 God didn't create evil. What bible verse says that? (Seriously, tell me so I can read it) Evil was created as a nessecary side-effect of free will. God wants us to be good, but more than that, he wants us to choose to be good. However, he wants us to live with our choice, which is why sin is punished.
StuffedAnimalPlanet 2 weeks ago
@StuffedAnimalPlanet - I've never been spanked. And I have been in too many debates, it's obvious where you're going with this. You're going to attempt to compare God's threat of everlasting torture to a parent disciplining their child. No. Torture is not discipline.
Critic863 2 weeks ago
@Critic863 Perhaps here's a better way of better way of putting it. God is perfect. He lives in heaven. Imperfection cannot enter heaven (To be continued)
StuffedAnimalPlanet 2 weeks ago
@StuffedAnimalPlanet He's packed all imperfection into one place. It's called hell. Since people aren't perfect, we go there by default.
StuffedAnimalPlanet 2 weeks ago
@StuffedAnimalPlanet - So say we have a rat in a maze looking for the cheese. If he doesn't make it through these obstacles and get the cheese in a limited time, he dies?
Critic863 2 weeks ago
@StuffedAnimalPlanet However, people willing to seperate themselves from their sin, willing to cleanse themselves by faith, may go to heaven thanks to JC over there.
StuffedAnimalPlanet 2 weeks ago
@StuffedAnimalPlanet - It's not my fault that such a perfect creator managed to make such an imperfect person.
Critic863 2 weeks ago
@Critic863 Actually it is. He created you, and you decided to sin at one point in your life.
StuffedAnimalPlanet 2 weeks ago
@StuffedAnimalPlanet - You're implying that this God does not have a divine plan. If everything we do in our lives is documented in his divine plan, there is no such thing as free will. Until you say that I was created, you need to give a logical reason to think there is a creator.
Critic863 2 weeks ago
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Critic863 2 weeks ago
@JorEl7771 It's because "God" was originally the god of war; Yahweh Sabaoth, in the pantheistic Babylon religion. He became the monotheistic god of everything after half of everything was done, but until then, he was still the god of war and death, and acted like it.
Dimitriexeno 5 days ago
@JorEl7771 Great comment! I agree. Also when god said "let there be light" how did he actually SAY IT. There were no humans, thus there were no literate languages where did he get it from. its obviously a flawed book made by humans
VikingsPro 1 day ago
My "religion" is Star Wars lol. May the Force be with you. I am no longer Christian because of the hypocracy, hate, fearmongering and the amount of violence in the bible. Seems like the bible was written by a bunch of Sith Lords lol. Remember The Sith feeds off emotions - fears etc.
JorEl7771 1 month ago 2
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Let’s put an end to all religion.
Cut and paste URL into browser address bar:
endallreligions.blogspot.com
paularenas26 1 month ago
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You should repent. Moreover, you should ask God for eternal forgiveness through applying the death and resurrection of Jesus to your life of sin within the quietness of your bedroom tonight. As an unrepentant sinner myself, I made this decision around 15 years ago. This is the most important decision that you could ever make. - Romans 10:9-10
paularenas26 1 month ago
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proof for God look at the of Israel and the Bible account about them.
if evolution is true then please explain the lack of life outside of earth. if the big bang occurred then we must be honest and say that the same kind of life on earth should have evolved around us or are we as arrogant to think that earth is the only special place in the vastness of the cosmos I seem to read in the Bible that God made it all and put life on earth and man to be in charge of it and the evidence points to that
topfifth99 1 month ago
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topfifth99 1 month ago
Why I am not a christian ... it's a book by bertrand Russell it's a good read
alilsassy2 1 month ago
there is an explanation for god..... his great works that he has begun in all of us and the miracles that he has given us.... if u want to see this for yourself then seek out god... James 4:8 says come near to God and he will come near to you... this is the greatest truth i have ever known
thegameguru1994 2 months ago
@thegameguru1994 God is always near, but we keep ourselves from noticing.
mydesirescometrue 1 month ago
@thegameguru1994 You're obviously delusional.
squalkerjr 1 month ago
The null hypothesis thing is one of the best example of thiest hypocrisy - for EVERYTHING else it's the right way up, but for claims about their god, they turn it upside down. The atheist doesn't make this exception (or, at least, TRIES not to).
JMUDoc 2 months ago
Needless human suffering caused by genetic problems and such is enough to have no faith for me. I guess my definition of love is different than most Christians.
LiveFreeOrDie1985 2 months ago
Consequently;
Lack of belief in God: Not much effect on its own.
Belief in God: Not much effect on its own.
Science, rational healthy skeptism and logic: Adds positive effect to either peson.
Anuojat 2 months ago
Why are we no longer a christian? The answer is simple, in the first place, there is no christian in what we were talking in the other realms. The truth is if we just make good deeds done but not faith alone, which is the will of God. then we could notice all men are equal.
miamiviceph1 2 months ago
WOW! Your mastery of science is just extraordinary. Why don't you live by your own belief in null hypothesis and prove the affirmative that evolution can drive singular cellular organisms to multi-cellular self replicating ones. How about you explain how evolution can demonstrate land animals to water bound such as the whale. Why don't you show us what was before the Big Bang.
Oh wait you can't! You might want to spend some more time on research before you actually put out a video.
cctman 2 months ago
@cctman It's the undeducated unsourced people like you that caused him to be like this.
Or at least that's what I would say if you clearly weren't using a fake account.
crazyinsane500 2 months ago
@crazyinsane500 Fake account??? I have had this account for probably 5-6 years.
cctman 2 months ago
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@DonExodus2 I have claimed many times that Creation Science is a deception. Symbolically we can call that deception "Satan". This isn't proof creationism=Satanism, but it is strong anecdotal evidence. Your "deconversion" and your stated reasons why is just one more small piece of anecdotal evidence.
I hope you realise in the end it is not your relationship with one of the various religious sects invented by Mankind that matters. Even the name "Christian" is but a construct into Man's language.
redddbaron 2 months ago
"I am the way and the truth and the life" John 14:6
nikoface 2 months ago
about time!
tushara01 2 months ago
Yeah i want my sammich
williamm911 2 months ago
all i know is, as a former atheist, i died back in 2009. It was the scariest experience of my life and when i got back into my body and started breathing again, i became a believer in Christ and that very day, I repented of my sinful lifestyle. That night, I had a dream I was looking in the mirror and I was glowing and in perfect form. I think that was the day I was born again because every day since then, I'm reminded of his teachings; it's like his words are a part of me now.
sinimabeats 2 months ago
@sinimabeats I once had a dream I was falling into a volcano. I woke up, and then realized, that volcano was a symbol for my sinful lifestyle. So I took on His noodley appendage and now I am a Pastafarian. Your dream was bogus. be a Pastafarian and SEE rAmen.
your ridiculous thus you deserve ridicule.
hawkister 2 months ago 6
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@DonExodus2
Just thought you might find this interesting: theistic-evolution com
H0tkebab 2 months ago
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H0tkebab 2 months ago
Don...
Do you really believe that humans descend from one of those weird cambrian marine creatures?
I did ask this before, no answer, will you please answer this time...I mean, it blows my mind how is it that you changed your mind from a God believing to a weird cambrian marine creatures human ancestry believing... will you please answer to me
realhomosapiens 2 months ago
@realhomosapiens How long do you think it takes to get from a "weird cambrian marine creature" to a mammal? If you are REALLY interested in having it explained in simple easy to grasp terms and fun to read, so you can weigh both sides and really decide, I suggest "The Magic Of Reality" by Dawkins. It's really written at the teen level but I liked it alot.
Now I know what evolutionist really believe. Good luck.
ddw1959 2 months ago
@ddw1959
Well horseshoe crabs have been roaming the planet for so long...time is irrelevant...
So basically you believe that your great-great-great-grandpa was one of those weird cambrian marine creatures, right? and that evolution was the driving force behind such an unsurmoutable transformation? hmmm, I don´t you, but I´m not gullible enough to believe is such a scientific fairy tale, do you? no te esponges....jejejeje
realhomosapiens 2 months ago
Um. Jesus lived in the Iron Age.
d007ization 2 months ago
@d007ization Not sure what the point is but you're right. :)
ddw1959 2 months ago
Don said he lived in the Bronze Age but whatever
d007ization 2 months ago
@d007ization Gotcha...I caught that too. I considered it a slip of the tongue and didn't think it important to the point he was making. MAybe I missed something. Cheers!
ddw1959 2 months ago
@ddw1959 Cheers!
d007ization 2 months ago
"finished it for good"
audiotrax2000 2 months ago
This was really interesting. What finally did it for me was after 50 years of being a believer I finally sat down and read the Bible for myself. That pretty much did it right there. The second was that I created a mental model of sacrificing a perfect innocent being to pay for someone's act of evil. I imagined sacrificing my pet kitten for myself robbing a bank to make it all okay again. That finished for good.
audiotrax2000 2 months ago
How can you study Theology for four years, and convert from Christianity? You can't place science and Christianity on the same scale. Christianity is real, and I would think that someone who was a Christian and grew up in a Christian family would know that, right?
pfecjnizzle2013 2 months ago
@pfecjnizzle2013 try it. after studying the bible, church history , and also science for 4 years, you will be making your own video. Christianity is real in the sense that islam, buddhism, and 'trekkies' are real.
castelgandalf 2 months ago
@pfecjnizzle2013 as opposed to science is fake? the thing you typed this comment on? that thing is a result of science.
hawkister 2 months ago
other than that, great video!
GenghisKhorn 3 months ago
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GenghisKhorn 3 months ago
The null hypothesis actually is what scientists seek to disprove. So with the cancer curing sandwich, the null hypothesis would be that that the sandwich did not cure cancer and there was no relationship between the two things. The scientist would then provide evidence that the sandwich did cure cancer, thereby rejecting the null hypothesis. Therefore the null hypothesis is actually the default position, it is not the idea that there is no default position. I suppose this is a bit pedantic...
GenghisKhorn 3 months ago
Evil-solution is not provable in the laboratory, hence only a theory, belief, hypothesis, true science is demonstrable and experientially observed, It,evolution, is not an applicable science, therefore requires a belief in the unprovable,hence,a religious system at most.
TheAgateman1 3 months ago
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"Evil-solution is not provable in the laboratory" - except for when it has been proved using experiments that have proffited humanity in the feild of medicine and agriculture like to observation of Barcterial and Virus evolution.
Show me creationism in a lab, then we'll talk
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415 Louis Pasteur comes to my mind and being raised in France he was Catholic and according to my understanding after loosing part of his family to disease found the sterilization process .Concerning the creation of live I have witnessed it. happening all around us , procreation. In the lab the rabbit dies.No one will ever bring inanimate material to live and produce a kind.bacterial resistance is just that, it mutates.in reproduction, abnormalities are often aborted.
TheAgateman1 3 months ago
@TheAgateman1
"Louis Pasteur comes to my mind" - For what. He was Catholic and discoverd scientific advancements,,,science does that, prayer dosn't
"No one will ever bring inanimate material to live"
Scientists have actualy done just that..more to follow in next box
"and produce a kind"
Because there is no such thing and creationist use that word so they can keep changing the deffinition
"it mutates.in reproduction, abnormalities are often aborted"
That's what evolution is
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@TheAgateman1
5/20/2010 Discovery News
"This is the first synthetic cell that's been made," said Venter. "We call it synthetic because the cell is totally derived from a synthetic chromosome, made with four bottles of chemicals on a chemical synthesizer, starting with information in a computer."
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl141w This is my departing statement : We are getting no where butting heads. I Ieave with you the request that you watch A Rood Awakening and abstain from any bias if you dare .Good-bye.I must move on to other endeavors.
TheAgateman1 3 months ago
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@TheAgateman1
Flaw in your deffinition of Kind and you run rther than face it.
Typical theist...IF you don't address the reality then it isn't real to you, yet you try to force fiction on us as if it were the reality
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415 A positive gain of information,and expansion through duplicating that result (upgrade) would be a step forward.it just does not happen with mutation,that is a genetic lose of information .A kind by my definition is any particular group with in the animal kingdom that has the capacity to interbreed and produce an offspring either a sterile mule or capable of repropegating as a subspecies. The genes have limitations.
TheAgateman1 3 months ago
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@TheAgateman1 You keep using that temr,..information, and operating under the mistaken impression that you have to increase iot to make something change or improve. Mice have had huge areas of DNA removed and are still mice. Ever think that evolution might include streamlining out excess crap thats getting in the way?
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
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@TheAgateman1
"A kind by my definition is any particular group with in the animal kingdom that has the capacity to interbreed and produce an offspring either a sterile mule or capable of repropegating as a subspecies"
There are Dogs incapable of interbreeding with different types of dogs geneticly not jsut physicaly.
Ergo: Either by your deffinition we have created a new "Kind" or our pressumed inability to breed with other apes is no barrier to "Kind"
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
Wow...just, wow. You base all this on the 'provability' of Evolution? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
424Julie 3 months ago
@424Julie .......
TheSpartanondrugs 3 months ago
Atheism is great. Religion, to me, is bullshit. Problem is: the religious do not see that. They've been brainwashed. Of course, they will not aproove this. They were raised like that.
runecape465 3 months ago
But i was blessed to have a relative who educated me more on the bible and God. But i want to challenge you to do more researching. If you kinda left off since your childhood days of ''oh God..yeah Hes..kool" & moved to the complete opposite of the chart and gave more time to study science, I challenge u to read the (nt)the book of revelations. Thouroghly. No skipping lines. Give it some real thought. Whatever ur beliefs. When you are done, contact me. I want to kno your thoughts.ill be waiting
GoRaiGo 3 months ago
@GoRaiGo
Explain me.
Why did Atheism do more in 100 years than Christianity in 2000 years?
Why Atheism has done more things with theories that have SENSE?
spanish111japan 3 months ago
Doesnt make you love them any less but it hurts. Because you know the dangerous world. But you taught them to know right from wrong and hope they will use ur lessons to use in life and help their kids and others they meet when they get to that point. Think about how Jesus feels. I know you grew up in a household where you kinda had an idea but it was a bit for show. My parents were like that when it came to goint to church. They believe it but they dnt take it seriously as they kno they should.
GoRaiGo 3 months ago
People choose to believe what they want to and to a certain amount. I agree. When you have a kid and you love them with all your heart and break your back for them, including favors they dont see, and want whats best for them bc you know how life works and you try to warn them about the hardships in life. You do it because you LOVE them. But one day they will grow & will make their own choices. But u taught them well. But kids rebel. They will do things that go agianst what uve taught them.
GoRaiGo 3 months ago
Do you understand why Jesus was sacrificed for? Do you understand God is the foundation and was not created by another just because we, humans, are created that way? Theres a difference between the two. Do you know human sinful acts are from our own desires? God does not tempt ppl. Do you know God wants us to be good and help people? It is because He loves us & wants us to not hurt others, reachout to those n need, not be greedy, love. What do you have when people turn away and dont listen?
GoRaiGo 3 months ago
@GoRaiGo
"Do you understand why Jesus was sacrificed for?"
Yeah, actualy, he was "sacrificed" because he was one of a dozen or so would be messiahs, and the Roman empire was sick of the rebelions these men were stirring up.
As a result, Roman officaials demanded he be executed or they would take it out on the City.
The Jewish leaders turned him over because he wasn't worth risking the wholse city of Jerusalem for.
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415 Have you ever concluded, imposters may be evidence of the existence of the genuine article? Only one, passed the litmus test and supersedes all others. He is declared in the volume of The Book and if some one comes on the scene declaring to be The Christ and fills "the magic slipper" to a tee with un-self fulfilled prophecies, like 100s of them,written 100s of years prior, a truth seeker would weigh the evidence,to the favor of that truthful one.
TheAgateman1 3 months ago
@TheAgateman1
"Have you ever concluded, imposters may be evidence of the existence of the genuine article?"
nice false logic there. did you eve think that catching a killer proves firemen save lives?
Did you eve consider that a person who lies about Santa proves there is a real Sana to lie about?
Learn some logic
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@TheAgateman1
"The Christ and fills "the magic slipper" to a tee with un-self fulfilled prophecies, like 100s of them,written 100s of years prior, a truth seeker would weigh the evidence,to the favor of that truthful one"
Except he dosn't fufil the prophecies. The story written about him after the fact aligns to SOME nonprophectic verse IF those verses are taken very metaphoricly or through por translation instead of Hebrew texts
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
I feel sorry you feel this way. But I am not going to be one of those Christians who try to prove their point in a harsh negative way. There are many things people don't understand, we are simply human. But just as there are things we can't explain things religiously there also things we equally can't explain scientifically. We all have a mission in life that ppl dnt bother to fullfill like helping others. So we have ppl starving. Dnt compare human acts to a GOD. I challenge uto reread the bible
GoRaiGo 3 months ago
When theists say that infants die because god wants to take them back, it sounds absolutely crazy. Why were they born in the first place? My baby daughter died 20 years ago. I was an atheist then and I'm still an atheist, that didn't change my mind in any way. If I were a christian I could never have made sense of it, but I know that sometimes tragic things happen, and there doesn't have to be a reason. Bad things happen sometimes, so do good things, no god required.
8698gil 3 months ago
You said in the beginning that you weren't really "religious" even when you were supposedly a Christian. How then can you deconvert or leave Christianity when you were never a true Christian to begin with?
BachScholar 3 months ago
Please look up the definition of "begs the question", you use it incorrectly here. I normally don't make critiques of this type but that drives me crazy, especially when arguing a point.
ultim4t32 3 months ago
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ultim4t32 3 months ago
@Mirewood "not at all, it s being objective with the information"
Not exactly. If it were objective agnostics would say, "we cannot know and we never will be able to know because..." instead of saying" I don't know now but its possible to know in the future if...".
"1+1=2 someone might believe its 3"
A knowledge based belief is not always correct. When I say knowledge, I simply mean there is some reason, or piece of knowledge, that leads to a conclusion.
nazra7 3 months ago
Im not Christain anymore also but i still believe in a something
I call it God
jeffxxxriives1 3 months ago
All evil in this world is the consequences of man's falling out of God's grace due to sin. God threathened Adam with death (that includes calaminities) if he disobeys God. Adam did and so what's surprising about the evil and man's many msifortunes that we see all around us. The evil of this world in fact proves the existence of God who said that would exactly happened if Adam disobeys him.
csdr0 3 months ago
@csdr0 sorry but it was god who made sin .If you made a fork in the road when was just one way at first then put a sign saying go this way and someone else telling you to go the other way.EVEN IF YOU DID WENT THE WAY YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO WHO MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU. O and dont say we did we did not make a fucking forbidden tree they just ate from it
a084123 3 months ago
The argument that God did not exist because he only sent his Son after thousand of years watching humans die & doing nothing is not an argument for God's non-existence. This is doubting his goodness based on the author's human standards. If God's intention for killing infants is to speed up their entry into heaven, then what's wrong with that? As Creator he has killing rights. God's sending punishment is not a proof of his mistake it was a fulfillment of his threat to deal with man's sins.
csdr0 3 months ago
correction... has not always existed.
csdr0 3 months ago
The reason why the Universe has always existed is because the Big Bang shows it did not always exist. The question now is how did it come into existence? Hawking said it came about by spontaneously creating itself because of the law of gravity. So, something coming out from nothing. Whew! You cannot ask the question what created God because unlike the Universe you cannot show that God began to exist. God does not have his own Big Bang.
csdr0 3 months ago
@Mirewood This definition you give of agnostic atheist is traditionally what it thought of as being an agnostic.
"As an agnostic you would recognize that with the information that is currently available we cannot know"
You mean then agnostics say we cannot know now but we could know in the future. That seems to be a subjective position to hold but treated as if it were an objective one, because it assumes something about everyone's knowledge when it only applies to themselves.
nazra7 3 months ago
@Mirewood "but I realize that this is ultimately a faith based belief, not a knowledge based one."
That seems to be contradictory to the meaning of faith, since faith is complete trust, which would mean anyone with faith would at least think they have enough knowledge to propose the idea as if it was conclusive. So, to them, faith is a knowledge based belief. That's why theists say they "know" heaven exists.
nazra7 3 months ago
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@Mirewood "A Gnostic Atheist claims they are 100% right and they know there is no God"
Another problem arises. If atheism is a lack of belief, then why are these so called "gnostic" atheists believing that God does not exist? Its all very inconsistent.
nazra7 3 months ago
@Mirewood "An Agnostic Theist believes that there is a god but admits that they could be wrong"
See, here's the problem with these definitions. Since you want atheism to be lack of belief because of the prefix 'a', you also must follow the same rules for other words. Agnostic means without knowledge, so you can't have, or think you have, knowledge of the existence of God, and at the same time admit that knowledge may be wrong. Because if it might be wrong, its not "knowledge".
nazra7 3 months ago
@Mirewood If agnosticism is not a belief then that contradicts what Banile was saying -- that agnostics believe they cannot know about the existence of God. I disagree with you though, Agnosticism - indicted by the suffix "ism" is a belief, a belief that its possible that God exists, they are just unsure. So they suspend belief in believing that God exists or does not exist, but at the same time, believing that its possible God might exist.
nazra7 3 months ago
@Mirewood It seems to me that traditionally, meaning in the past, agnostic simply meant one who does not know if God exists or not. At least, that is my understanding.
When Christians tell me that Christianity is a relationship, not a religion, they're saying that based on what it means t be a Christian, and that is to be a follower of Christ who had a dependent relationship with God, and not just go to church and say you're a believer.
nazra7 3 months ago
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The just shall live by 'FAITH' ..not proof or evidence,leave this things to science and leave to GOD what belongs to him.
manaseful1 4 months ago
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1zhrawy 4 months ago
F christian's, HEIL SATAN!
666darkdragon777 4 months ago
I agree. I was sent on a Creation Tour, and they taught Creationism and the evidence they showed me did not convince me so I researched and stuff and that's how I came to question my religion. But if I told my mom that I was not going to be Christian anymore, it would break her heart.
skippyhippo 4 months ago
I see you found your needle in the hay Stack
bubba007sss 4 months ago
@nazra7 Also, most christians, infact most religous people are by definition agnostic theists.
They dont have knowledge of god, they have faith in god. It even states in most holy books that god without faith is nothing, faith without god is nothing.
You know those mutha fucka's we all dislike that claim to know the mind of god, usually fundamentalists, they are Gnostic theists.
They claim not only belief but knowledge of god, but i think most people know they're talking shit
shandcunt 4 months ago
@nazra7 So what would you call someone who "Lacks belief"?
Just so you know, Gnosticism refers to knowledge of god, not belief in god.
A-gnosticism is no knowledge of god
Theism is belief in god, so whats the opposite of belief in god? would it be Un-theist? de-theist? a-theist?
shandcunt 4 months ago
For me the concept is very simple. Either you believe it's more logical that everything came from nothing (was started by nothing) or that everything came from something. It doesn't have to be any more complicated than that.
SIX50R 4 months ago
DonExodus2, I'm sad to see your account is no longer active. You must've been great!
I will put you on my list of other channels and favorite this series!
AtheismIsCorrect 4 months ago
What about miracles?
seethroughshit 4 months ago
@seethroughshit Look up what David Hume had to say about miracles. ;-)
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OogaBoogamix 4 months ago
@OogaBoogamix what?
seethroughshit 4 months ago
Yeah, there may be ''evidence'' of evolution, but no knowledge on the Origin of the 1st living cell, evidence for "natural selection", but no explanation of how a mindless accidental mutation can create huge volumes of information, & intelligence. Millions of transitional fossils missing, yet all living beings evolved from a 'fish'..isn't Evolution another religion?..a system that fails to explain the evidence?
mellymel51029 4 months ago
The fact that Evolution as a mechanism "does There may be ''evidence'' of evolution, but no knowledge on the Origin of the 1st living cell, evidence for "natural selection", but no explanation of how a mindless accidental mutation can create huge volumes of information, & intelligence. Millions of transitional fossils missing, yet all living beings evolved from a 'fish'..isn't Evolution another religion?..a system that fails to explain the evidence?
mellymel51029 4 months ago
So it seems you became an atheist because creationists don't make a very good case for their beliefs. That's ok for a personal view, but I hope you don't dog other Christians for believing in God. Not all Christians are creationists, and creationism is not at the core of Christianity either way. Thanks for sharing your video Don Exodus.
nazra7 4 months ago
Atheism is not a default position since the lack of belief in God comes after you have a concept of God since the lack of belief in God is merely rejecting arguments for God's existence.. Please read Anthony Flew's book: The Presumption of Atheism.
nazra7 4 months ago
@nazra7 Would you mind explaining what IS the default position? Because it seems to me that suspension of belief or non belief IS STILL a lack of belief. But that's just my take on it.
chuckwagon1645 4 months ago
@chuckwagon1645 A justified atheist would claims burden of evidence for the theist due to lack of evidence for the theist. This means a concept of theism rejecting arguments for it because of lack of evidence is needed before one can truly be considered an atheist.
And before that atheist rejects the theist's argument, they have neither a concept of theism nor a volition to be skeptical of it, and thus are not an atheist. This is the default position. Neither atheist or theist.
nazra7 4 months ago
@nazra7 This middle ground your speaking of is a state of non belief. If you do not have a concept of god then you sure as hell STILL DO NOT HOLD A BELIEF IN HIM. This is the very definition of atheism sir. Google works wonders. The atheist rejects theist claims due to lack of evidence and he is perfectly justified in remaining in that position. The theist has the burden of proof. Your mistaken dude.
chuckwagon1645 4 months ago
@chuckwagon1645 Atheists are wanting to define atheism as a lack of belief, but when we define words we are ascribing a word to something in reality. In this case, atheism is being ascribed to people who lack belief. So all atheists lack belief, but not all people who lack belief are necessarily atheists. To suggest otherwise is a non-sequitur since its equally possible that lacking belief has nothing to do with being skeptical of theism.
nazra7 4 months ago
@nazra7 Atheism is a useless term in my opinion but in "REALITY" it is exactly what I said it was. It is a LACK OF BELIEF in a deity. There are no requirements as to why someone lacks the belief. Some take it a step further and claim that a deity does not exist for a fact but that is an unfounded position and carries a burden of proof. The default position in the context of theology is atheism. Your trying to apply it to every other context. So I can see where you are getting it mixed up.
chuckwagon1645 4 months ago
@chuckwagon1645 The problem with trying to say that all people that lack belief is an atheist is that goes against what all self-proclaimed atheist has in common - skepticism of theism. No self-proclaim atheist does not have a concept of god and/or gods. Thus a concept of god/gods and theism is a necessary condition coupled with being skeptical of it in order to be able to define some one as an atheist, thus atheism cannot be the default position.
nazra7 4 months ago
@nazra7 Skepticism has nothing to do with it. If you lack belief in a deity then you are by definition an atheist. You have obviously been misinformed on the definition of atheism.
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