@juanleiden i would put hakeem above shaq and duncan and i think shaq had a better career than duncan if he had stayed on 1 team instead of getting traded so much in his final years
we want the old kobe back number 24 you should take your jersey an bring it back to number8 if jordan could do it you could doit kobe you still got gas for another championship but you gotta bring back old school.
if michael jordan wanted too, he would of scored 81 pts over a shitty team like raptors but jordan would rather pass the ball even if his other teammates werent that good...
u guys r forgetting kareem and karl malone those guys offensivly have to be the best to ever do it 20 yrs of the game scoring almost 40,000 points. Stop overlooking the past greats with the current ones.
@10runeit Those are also big guys. They take a lot of really high percentage shots. That is why it is so impressive that a shooting guard can do something like this.
Kobe does have a bigger range on his shots than Jordan did. This is one of the reasons why I think offensively he is a better player than Jordan was. Plus he's one tough SOB...
@guthrielindquist1 wow dude your rasist your saying kobe got a big dick and he has aids wow thats fucked up saying shit like that about black people lol.
@Player9090 Kobe is not even close to being the most talented offensive player of all time. 25 points a game on 45% shooting over his career, he can't touch Jordan on offense or defense. Kobe just shoots 3's better and everyone knows shooting 3's is for pussies. Just kidding...not really.
kobe is the greatest to ever play the game... well maybe jordan has him beat but other than that hes the best, no 1 gimme that LeBron bullshit neither.
Michael Jordan is the best offensive force the NBA has ever seen. I have respect for guys giving it up to the legends like Wilt.. and Kobe is my favourite player in the NBA right now.. but get real, Michael Jordan is the best... bar none.
Kobe has BEEN the black mamba... just because u just heard it doesnt mean he all of a sudden became it... and please tell me whats wrong with trying to be like mj? a lot of people try but kobe actually has the ability to do it...
sucking mj's dick huh? well fuckin explain to me why the black mamba (please explain to me how and when he all of a sudden became the black mamba?!?!) wags his tongue while driving to the basket, does that pumping of the fist thing that jordan does, does fade aways like mj, and tries to always mimic the great one's game all the fucking time!! luckylefty dont listen to these arrogant los angeles fakers fans!!
have lived all my life in the LA area! and i hate this fucken team...Plus there isnt one fucken actual lake around ! And if you say the La brea tarpits then your idiots!! they should take their asses back to Minnesota where they came from!! there are lakes there!!
no that is alright most people know that black mamba is a poisonous snake now whenwhite people call him a rapist even though he was found innocent i feel is racist due to stereotyping
Check this out here the game change since Jordan the plays r harder the people r faster bigger Kobe still manage to score just as much as Jordan sometimes better I see it easy for jordan to get his points but both Kobe and Jordan can shoot all n all
As great as Kobe is, (huge fan of his and LA) right now Lebron is the best overall player. However, until Lebron shows Kobe's killer instinct and wins a ring, Kobe will go down as a bigger legend.
how kobe has a better jumper and has a better offensive arsenal. LeBron is only drive slam. You want to stop lebron from driving what can u do to kobe? if you stop him from driving he'll find a way or pullup in ya grill. And lebron needs to develop on ball defence
Very true. I think James will end up being a better player. He puts up huge offensive numbers despite not having a diverse arsenal, plus his defense is starting to get pretty good. He's only 24 and has plenty of time to mature as a player and improve, which is downright scary.
i value ur opinion very well. But as MJ said statistical accolades were nothing to him. Its all about the rings. If Kobe gets more than MJ. Then I still think he'll go down as greater than Jordan. I mean we can get into a debate about the eras they played in and the players MJ faced in his position but we'll leave it for another time.
dude stop being delusional. Kobe is great, but MJ overall is a better player. Kobe is just below avg in defense, let's get a few things straight. Men lie, women lie, numbers don't. Statically Jordan beat him even if Kobe has 15 rings. Kobe doesn't have a defensfive player of the year award, doesn't have close to 10 scoring titles or MVPS....rings is just a bonus in the NBA, it's what defined you as a complete player. but don't get your self confused kid, it'll take 3 kobe's for 1 MJ.
u brought up statistics as a reason for someone being the greatest. I brought a rebuttal to that argument and u call that being slow. Jordan was the only shooting guard his height. Should he be punished? and even then i can still bring up Kareem Abdul Jabbar who by the way still has the all time scoring record. R u gonna call him the greatest because of that. Oh yeah and he had more mvps than jordan.
what one more mvp because he played like for 20 years., and MJ only played for 13...idiots like you don't have the capacity to think things through before you say them...smh.
you obviously dont know a damn thing. Because Kareem got his 6th MVP in his 11th year in the NBA. But you wouldnt know that. Fuckin Dumbass. MJ obtained his 5th in his 13th. If your going to say something make sure you get your facts straight. Stupid ass. And if were gonna talk about other FACTS which you seem to lack. Russell won 11 championships, which is nearly twice as much as Jordan. If I had a dollar for everything you said even remotely intelligent I would be broke. Get yo pseudo
good response, only difference you as always failed to acknowledge is that you're comparing MJ a barely 6'6'' guard with centers.lol. So what does that tell you about him? I'm not gonna sit here and keep defending MJ, the numbers speak for them selves, don't believe me, look them up. MJ is probably the one of the only players who won rings without a dominant center, before MJ it was unheard of to lead the league in scoring and not have a dominant center and win rings, lol
When people make comparisons they need to look at the whole spectrum of things. MJ besides Wilt Chamberlain *notice who I'm mentioning here**Wilt, is the only player to score 3000+ in a single season, has the most scoring titles, and wins rings at the same time - not even a player today has been able to accomplish that - did I forget to mention no dominant center?? Luc Longley, Bill Wennington, Bill Catwrigth..hehe..you be the judge.
first of all its Cartwright. Learn how to spell. And I dont buy the argument that he had no dominant center therefore he had it harder. He had Scottie Pippen and Dennis Rodman, only 2 of the best players and rebounders in the game at the time. By the way, if you want to be honest, Jordan never had to face anyone at his position who was great or even remotely his height. And by the way, if you want another statistic. Oscar Robertson a shooting guard is the only person to average a triple double.
spelling you're getting on me spelling? please go wash ur arm pits dude. He had scottie and dennis, let's remember he won the first 3 w.o Dennis. the second 3peat he had a more dominant team then the first 3 peat. i hate it when idiots bring dennis like he was in all 6 rings. In the first 3 the bulls were always the under dogs. no one remotely his height? So Byron Scott, Drexler and Barkley are not 6'5-6'66''? lol , plus the knicks and cavs in the east with ron harper? just shut up man.
Alright you just brought up someone who was completely irrelevant. And by the way, Barkley was a power forward you idiot. And Drexler did not face him one on one if you even remotely watched the finals that year. What does washing my arm pits have to do with this discussion. What an idiot. And please do you honestly consider Byron Scott great? Last time I checked he was not in the hall of fame. I said great shooting guards who were his height.
And do you not know how the team was set up when The bulls won all those championships? Scottie Pippen handled most of the defense and Jordan handled most of the offense. Therefore, Jordan did not have to spend all his energy on both sides of the floor the way Kobe does. The Lakers never had a individual lockdown perimeter player like scottie pippen on their team. Nor did they have a guy in Rodman to play defense and get rebounds the way he did. You are just completely out of the lieu man.
thats your response? I dont take anything away from MJs greatness. Im just not putting him on a pedestal like you obviously do. I put his greatness into context. You deify the man. He didnt get those championships alone. And go to bed comment sounds childish. I dont play childish games when Im grown.Thats what you should do. Grow up
dude seriously your an idiot, I'm not putting him on a pedestal. He's the best, taken the situations that he's been in. He's tenacious, plays defense, can score and is clutch. Can shoot the 3, and can shoot the perimeter, can slash I can go and on...not that many guards in history have done what he's done. When big O won his only ring he wasn't avg a triple double. No basktetball player ever has gotten their rings alone, I never said that. But to be a spear header of those rings,
cont, MJ did that 6 times. 3 peats, not that many teams have done them. Not even Magic, Bird or Isaiah have won 3 peats. It's seldom accomplished - and those teams that did it has dominant centers, MJ didn't - get the point?? geeez seriously you're slow or something?? No one is saying he's god, but most of the so called best hall of famers haven't accomplished what he has...is hard as shit to lead the league in scoring, no center and win rings...is tough as shit - so from that stand point
cont..from that standpoint alone he's considered the best ever, forget the fact that the NBA was a lost cause and how he revolutionized the NBA and made it what it is today world wide. But that's beside the point, he's self accolades and team accolades speak for them selves. No one said he did it alone....I tell you one thing you ask anyone in the who played for the bulls in those 6 years, and they'll tell you without him they would not have won. The numbers speak for god sakes! geez ur slow
Wow, did you just say the League was a lost cause when he entered the League? You really must know nothing at all. Because the golden era started with Magic and Bird winning all those championships in the 80s not Jordan in the 90s. Of course he revolutionized the game but so did Bird and Magic. So go suck on someone elses dick because I think Jordans tired of you being on his lol
ask David Stern how much the league changed after MJ came to the league? Ask him??. U know nothing dude, the fact the Larry and Magic were even mentioned that shows me that u don't know shit!!...about what Mj did to the game. do u know what's shit is? that's exactly what you know SHIT! I'm here debating thinking u know what u talking about apparently not. shaking my head at this fucking clown.
wow, lame and immature. You dont know what your talking bout. Because the NBA revived in the 1980s and you ask any purist or expert of the game how Bird and Magic revolutionized and brought the NBA back to its eminence. MJ brought his thing in the game but him in the 90s was not Magic and Bird in the 80s. The mere fact your going off with this temper tandrum shows me how incapable you are of having an intelligent debate with someone who disagrees with you. What a pathetic idiot.
you're just a complete idiot. We're going in circles and you have no clue what you are saying, it's evident in your responses. That Larry and Magic had an impact in the 80s I'm not denying that. But even then you ask Larry and Magic and they will tell you that Michael elevated the game to what it is today. Magic and Larry has stated that. That's all I'm saying. You're making it seem as if I'm not recognizing that in the 80s with Magic n bird did wasn't spectacular, but in 1984 that's when
your responses are asinine and useless. Its as if you talk without knowing what spouts out of your mouth. Hint, when you talk about someones intelligence, make sure yours is superior to theirs because you just make yourself look like a complete ass. but its okay. im going 2 leave it at that.
yeah just leave it at that...'cause after reading what I wrote you realized how much of an idiot u are , and at the end we were both practically saying the same thing. Just you're level of comprehension is a notch below the normal human being.
Bill Russell. But i guess you and the fanatics believe its best to stay on his dick and not question your own predisposed beliefs. Socrates had a word for people like you its called "Ignoramus". New word of the day. Look it up faggot
it all changed, although as far as rings were concerned Celtics and Lakers were the team to watch, mid to late 80s MJ was the face of the league - no matter whether you admit it or not, is a fact. The funny thing is as for individual accolades MJ was already winning them in the 80s, with Bird and Magic in the league.lol. scoring titles, Mvps, defensive player of the year, etc. and Magic, Bird, Isaiah, Bernard King, Dominque, Clyde were all still in the league..hehe. as a rook avg:28.2 ppg
You probably didnt even graduate from high school. And your commenting on someone's intelligence when you can't even spell right? You really dont have a leg to stand on when it comes to that. If you were a witness testifying at trial, your credibility would be zero. Your intelligence is commensurate with a retard who can't even tie his own shoes. In terms of basketball knowledge its zero. And the amount of dickriding youve done its almost more than a female pornstar. Its pathetic.
Dude, you are seriously a delusional clown. You need intervention. Had this been a face to face conversation you would of looked like a total ass. You just talk for the sake of talking.
What does graduating from HS even have to do with anything? SMH at this clown seriously. You know nothing about basketball,zero, air, nada. You're a fan, a stan from the outside looking in. You're seriously a lame fuck who fails to acknowledge facts. You lack understanding the game of basketball.
Your just engaging in idiotic arguments about the same thing without any facts to support it. Your intellect is tantamount to that of a split brain patient. A fan? Bitch your a michael jordan fanatic that wont stop sucking his dick. As far as delusion is concerned, your delusional for thinking Michael Jordan is going 2 stay the greatest. By the way, that is a matter of opinion. Not fact. Your talking bout players in different eras and I promise you he wouldnt win all those rings facing
until someone comes to the league avg almost 30ppg shoots 50% for a career wins multiple MVPs, rings, defensive player of the year...etc..not matter what era they played in ..MJ is the best to ever do it - the numbers are there..what do you want me to do?? You don't have to believe me the numbers are there...plain and simple. No matter how u slice it dumb motherfucker you're not winning - ur clueless stop it doc. I don't like the circus, so going forward I'll ignore this fucking clown.
omg ur only 19?? hahahahaa I get my lil sister to fuck u up hahahahahaha...ur just a kid...no wonder u come off the way u do. hahahaha...go read a book, or do an internship of some sort. Calling me a fag is not going to wipe out Mjs numbers...lol u dick. hahahahahahaha...oh man..children these days...
i just wonder...after more than 10 years in the NBA...why is it that kobe doesnt have a monicker that everybody can identify him with....like that of "his airness"..."the mailman" etc. etc.
black mamba may be known by a few..but not by evryone..
Kobe Bryant played almost the entire season left handed at one point because of his injured hand. Shooting/Dunking left handed. Kobe>MJ all day!!!
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Xex181 5 months ago
1-MJ
2-KB/Chamberlain
3-M. Johnson
4-Russell
5-Bird
6-Duncan/Shaq
7-Hakeem
8-Probably Wade/Nowitzky
9-Iverson (he's below wade/dirk because of the rings, same as charles)
10-barkley
juanleiden 7 months ago
@juanleiden i would put hakeem above shaq and duncan and i think shaq had a better career than duncan if he had stayed on 1 team instead of getting traded so much in his final years
KanameKashita 1 month ago
respect
juanleiden 7 months ago
we want the old kobe back number 24 you should take your jersey an bring it back to number8 if jordan could do it you could doit kobe you still got gas for another championship but you gotta bring back old school.
MrBoogieman714 9 months ago
@MrBoogieman714 i think he should grow the fro too
lawlessvictory 9 months ago
Jordan was the best of his time. Kobe is the best of THIS time.
EngleSackJus 1 year ago
if michael jordan wanted too, he would of scored 81 pts over a shitty team like raptors but jordan would rather pass the ball even if his other teammates werent that good...
TheAK4722 1 year ago
great..
looney2be 1 year ago
u guys r forgetting kareem and karl malone those guys offensivly have to be the best to ever do it 20 yrs of the game scoring almost 40,000 points. Stop overlooking the past greats with the current ones.
10runeit 1 year ago
@10runeit Those are also big guys. They take a lot of really high percentage shots. That is why it is so impressive that a shooting guard can do something like this.
Bostan606 1 year ago
he thinks hes so good but hes just a fucking ball hog
he fucking sucks big dick
whodat551 1 year ago
@whodat551 lol laughable... hes got 5 NBA championships..enough said
CalciumWaves1 9 months ago
I absolutely hate Kobe but you have to respect him.
flyerace22 1 year ago
SYNDROID, I just popped a big phat pimple on my nose, you dumb shit.
HelloHansSolo 1 year ago
Kobe does have a bigger range on his shots than Jordan did. This is one of the reasons why I think offensively he is a better player than Jordan was. Plus he's one tough SOB...
syndroid 1 year ago
@syndroid what r u talkin about jordan can hit every shot kobe can...he just choose a better shot which shows when u look at his efficiency
khadeemw91 19 hours ago
Kobe is right behind Michael jordan as second greastest player of all time
TheTheory77 1 year ago
@TheTheory77 wat about magic, larry, shaq, hakem ojwon, and oscar robison
jjsmooth23 1 year ago
@jjsmooth23 alright you got a point i forgot about them at the time
TheTheory77 1 year ago
@TheTheory77 I second that !!
klirshead 1 year ago
whats with the 300 music? lol
Aphasia17 1 year ago
how do you guys think if Jordan still played would he be able to defend Kobe?
syrymflash 1 year ago
@syrymflash hell yeah!!
hustnex 1 year ago
because he strikes fast
hcubias 1 year ago
they call him black mamba because in his pants lurks a big black mamba
guthrielindquist1 1 year ago
@guthrielindquist1 wow dude your rasist your saying kobe got a big dick and he has aids wow thats fucked up saying shit like that about black people lol.
54rocx24 1 year ago
the black mamba! he's number 24 cuz he's the next jordan....
imcr4ck3d 1 year ago
Yea the black mamba he strike's like No other!!!
MrBigmike801 2 years ago
Thats my nigga BMamba
bmammba24 2 years ago
they call him the black mamba because black mambas are one of the deadliest animals in the world. word
therizzas05 2 years ago
what's the name of the song? i know it is from star wars III but if anybody know the name let say.
basketbolist4eto 2 years ago
by the time kobe retires he will be 3rd on the all time leading scorers list
nineonmychest 2 years ago 2
cause he stings like a fucking mamba on the court!
eog310 2 years ago 4
y do they call him the black mamba
MrDanielthelakerfan 2 years ago
cuz he attack his prey as the black mamba does
airHaakon 2 years ago 14
because blakc mamba are sneaky and they attak quick without notice in and out but they call him that when he was a kid so it follow him to the nba
champions2009908 2 years ago 3
You cant really compare Kobe to MJ because of the diffrent types of defense that is played now and the way it was played back then.
Miltonman100 2 years ago 5
okay jordan is the greatest of all time but kobe bryant is the most talented offensive player in history.
Player9090 2 years ago 25
@Player9090 Kobe is not even close to being the most talented offensive player of all time. 25 points a game on 45% shooting over his career, he can't touch Jordan on offense or defense. Kobe just shoots 3's better and everyone knows shooting 3's is for pussies. Just kidding...not really.
rockyrack2 1 year ago
@Player9090 Bad shooting percentage.
13SuperKings 1 month ago
@Player9090
Jordan isn't even the best player of all time.
Smullet90 4 days ago
kobe is my idol!
famouzboi13 2 years ago 4
@famouzboi13 I SECOND THAT KB24 AKA BLACK MAMBA ALL DA WAY.. WE LOOKIN FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP THIS YR C'MON KOBE U CAN DO IT! MAKE IT 5!
sourpatch2009 2 years ago
kobe is the greatest to ever play the game... well maybe jordan has him beat but other than that hes the best, no 1 gimme that LeBron bullshit neither.
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xxchris 2 years ago
8 career 50 pt games in the playoffs = MJ
enuff said.
dmun5587red123 2 years ago
com on guys its hard to compare all greatest players not considering their positions, if you talk about guards and fowards it would be
1.- MJ / KB
2.- MAGIC
3.- BIRD
if you are talking about big guys:
1.- Kareem
2.- Wilt
3.- Shaq
4.- Russell
The GOAT? i think i would come down to a showdown between MJ, kOBE AND MAGIC, in their prime
MrCARC 2 years ago
no way i would never put shaq ahead of russell. thats preposterous. and i dont put kobe on that level as mj yet. Getting there but not yet
Facebook289 2 years ago
it woul be michael. his the GOAt,
just think all of his accomplishments
spyda37 2 years ago
Michael Jordan is the best offensive force the NBA has ever seen. I have respect for guys giving it up to the legends like Wilt.. and Kobe is my favourite player in the NBA right now.. but get real, Michael Jordan is the best... bar none.
ismalali 2 years ago 3
No this is how it goes
1. MJ
2. KB
3. LJ
4. DW
get it got it good
lukebigchez 2 years ago
wilt, mj, kobe ,russell, magic/bird. thats the order
meast21rip 2 years ago
Well actually I waz rong its Kareem-Abdul- Jabar, MJ Wilt magic LJ Kobe Bill And LARRY THE LIFEGUARD
lukebigchez 2 years ago
this is how this list is going to go
MJ
kb24
d-wade
lbj
tyroc83 2 years ago
Kobe has BEEN the black mamba... just because u just heard it doesnt mean he all of a sudden became it... and please tell me whats wrong with trying to be like mj? a lot of people try but kobe actually has the ability to do it...
ltr9690 2 years ago
sucking mj's dick huh? well fuckin explain to me why the black mamba (please explain to me how and when he all of a sudden became the black mamba?!?!) wags his tongue while driving to the basket, does that pumping of the fist thing that jordan does, does fade aways like mj, and tries to always mimic the great one's game all the fucking time!! luckylefty dont listen to these arrogant los angeles fakers fans!!
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have lived all my life in the LA area! and i hate this fucken team...Plus there isnt one fucken actual lake around ! And if you say the La brea tarpits then your idiots!! they should take their asses back to Minnesota where they came from!! there are lakes there!!
IIExhibitAII 2 years ago
What the hell's wrong with that? Just because someone looks up to someone else...
Name one NBA player who wouldn't want to be like MJ, if you can.
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Robinho10RM 2 years ago
i didnt know that jordan invented the fade-away shot. i guess everyone that shoots a fade-away is trying to copy jordan. you're a moron
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totally agree. kobe is a faggy ball hog. thats all.
AnthraxMegadeth 2 years ago
If a white guy calls Kobe the "black mamba" will he be labeled as racist? Or is it okay for white people to say it?
zardcat1111 2 years ago
.........
superrocket1000 2 years ago
no that is alright most people know that black mamba is a poisonous snake now whenwhite people call him a rapist even though he was found innocent i feel is racist due to stereotyping
Spoken 2 years ago
well not innocent, they dropped the charges but yeah i see your point
Facebook289 2 years ago
EIGHTY-ONE POINTS
jlchezbut 2 years ago
based on scientific evidence kobe is the most skilled player to ever play the game!
mannycomforter 2 years ago
wHaT scieNTiFic eViDeNce??
Becuz iM a Die-HaRD kOBe FaN!!!
janetandbrandy 2 years ago
Check this out here the game change since Jordan the plays r harder the people r faster bigger Kobe still manage to score just as much as Jordan sometimes better I see it easy for jordan to get his points but both Kobe and Jordan can shoot all n all
KeNnY4547 2 years ago
all around skill of his game makes him the best
mannycomforter 2 years ago
As great as Kobe is, (huge fan of his and LA) right now Lebron is the best overall player. However, until Lebron shows Kobe's killer instinct and wins a ring, Kobe will go down as a bigger legend.
BassAssassin9 2 years ago
how kobe has a better jumper and has a better offensive arsenal. LeBron is only drive slam. You want to stop lebron from driving what can u do to kobe? if you stop him from driving he'll find a way or pullup in ya grill. And lebron needs to develop on ball defence
HPCP3 2 years ago
great point as well
Facebook289 2 years ago
true. but Lebron James is a statistical Giant. Hes a triple double threat everytime down the field. Oscar Robertson move over here comes Lebron James
Facebook289 2 years ago
Very true. I think James will end up being a better player. He puts up huge offensive numbers despite not having a diverse arsenal, plus his defense is starting to get pretty good. He's only 24 and has plenty of time to mature as a player and improve, which is downright scary.
BassAssassin9 2 years ago
Brandon Roy? mongoose? maybe a little baby mongoose, be he can't even deal with the Black Mamba aka Kobe Bean Bryant. ...100% fatal if bitten.
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Brandon roy = mongoose= KILLS SNAKES!!!!!!!!
Fox250R 2 years ago
Brandon Roy ran into the Great Wall of China!
mmjaljs 2 years ago 4
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wasnt he like gay with shaq for a little while?
Keely8894 3 years ago
simply the best
pirrorulez 3 years ago 4
Bryant, Jordan, Johnson...love all three's style. Kobe defined and continues to define that post-jordan era. Kobe is Legend.
EmilTowersIV 3 years ago 7
If he wins 4 more its over 4 Jordans title as the greatest ever.
Facebook289 2 years ago
not really because mj was mvpin all kobe will have to be mvp in 7 rings. in addition to a number of additional individual accolades...
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
i value ur opinion very well. But as MJ said statistical accolades were nothing to him. Its all about the rings. If Kobe gets more than MJ. Then I still think he'll go down as greater than Jordan. I mean we can get into a debate about the eras they played in and the players MJ faced in his position but we'll leave it for another time.
Facebook289 2 years ago
dude stop being delusional. Kobe is great, but MJ overall is a better player. Kobe is just below avg in defense, let's get a few things straight. Men lie, women lie, numbers don't. Statically Jordan beat him even if Kobe has 15 rings. Kobe doesn't have a defensfive player of the year award, doesn't have close to 10 scoring titles or MVPS....rings is just a bonus in the NBA, it's what defined you as a complete player. but don't get your self confused kid, it'll take 3 kobe's for 1 MJ.
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
i dont take statistics as a matter of who the greatest is. if that was the case then Wilt Chamberlain would beat MJ no questions asked.
Facebook289 2 years ago
Wilt Chamberlain was the only 7 footer in his time...you slow off da yello bus prict.
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
u brought up statistics as a reason for someone being the greatest. I brought a rebuttal to that argument and u call that being slow. Jordan was the only shooting guard his height. Should he be punished? and even then i can still bring up Kareem Abdul Jabbar who by the way still has the all time scoring record. R u gonna call him the greatest because of that. Oh yeah and he had more mvps than jordan.
Facebook289 2 years ago
what one more mvp because he played like for 20 years., and MJ only played for 13...idiots like you don't have the capacity to think things through before you say them...smh.
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
you obviously dont know a damn thing. Because Kareem got his 6th MVP in his 11th year in the NBA. But you wouldnt know that. Fuckin Dumbass. MJ obtained his 5th in his 13th. If your going to say something make sure you get your facts straight. Stupid ass. And if were gonna talk about other FACTS which you seem to lack. Russell won 11 championships, which is nearly twice as much as Jordan. If I had a dollar for everything you said even remotely intelligent I would be broke. Get yo pseudo
Facebook289 2 years ago
good response, only difference you as always failed to acknowledge is that you're comparing MJ a barely 6'6'' guard with centers.lol. So what does that tell you about him? I'm not gonna sit here and keep defending MJ, the numbers speak for them selves, don't believe me, look them up. MJ is probably the one of the only players who won rings without a dominant center, before MJ it was unheard of to lead the league in scoring and not have a dominant center and win rings, lol
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
The only reason why he didnt lead the league in scoring was because Wilt Chamberlain went bananas and averaged nearly 40 ppg his first 7 years.
Facebook289 2 years ago
When people make comparisons they need to look at the whole spectrum of things. MJ besides Wilt Chamberlain *notice who I'm mentioning here**Wilt, is the only player to score 3000+ in a single season, has the most scoring titles, and wins rings at the same time - not even a player today has been able to accomplish that - did I forget to mention no dominant center?? Luc Longley, Bill Wennington, Bill Catwrigth..hehe..you be the judge.
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
first of all its Cartwright. Learn how to spell. And I dont buy the argument that he had no dominant center therefore he had it harder. He had Scottie Pippen and Dennis Rodman, only 2 of the best players and rebounders in the game at the time. By the way, if you want to be honest, Jordan never had to face anyone at his position who was great or even remotely his height. And by the way, if you want another statistic. Oscar Robertson a shooting guard is the only person to average a triple double.
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spelling you're getting on me spelling? please go wash ur arm pits dude. He had scottie and dennis, let's remember he won the first 3 w.o Dennis. the second 3peat he had a more dominant team then the first 3 peat. i hate it when idiots bring dennis like he was in all 6 rings. In the first 3 the bulls were always the under dogs. no one remotely his height? So Byron Scott, Drexler and Barkley are not 6'5-6'66''? lol , plus the knicks and cavs in the east with ron harper? just shut up man.
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
Alright you just brought up someone who was completely irrelevant. And by the way, Barkley was a power forward you idiot. And Drexler did not face him one on one if you even remotely watched the finals that year. What does washing my arm pits have to do with this discussion. What an idiot. And please do you honestly consider Byron Scott great? Last time I checked he was not in the hall of fame. I said great shooting guards who were his height.
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And do you not know how the team was set up when The bulls won all those championships? Scottie Pippen handled most of the defense and Jordan handled most of the offense. Therefore, Jordan did not have to spend all his energy on both sides of the floor the way Kobe does. The Lakers never had a individual lockdown perimeter player like scottie pippen on their team. Nor did they have a guy in Rodman to play defense and get rebounds the way he did. You are just completely out of the lieu man.
Facebook289 2 years ago
you make no sense dude mj is arguably the best to do it.....legends and hall of famers say it
go to bed
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
thats your response? I dont take anything away from MJs greatness. Im just not putting him on a pedestal like you obviously do. I put his greatness into context. You deify the man. He didnt get those championships alone. And go to bed comment sounds childish. I dont play childish games when Im grown.Thats what you should do. Grow up
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dude seriously your an idiot, I'm not putting him on a pedestal. He's the best, taken the situations that he's been in. He's tenacious, plays defense, can score and is clutch. Can shoot the 3, and can shoot the perimeter, can slash I can go and on...not that many guards in history have done what he's done. When big O won his only ring he wasn't avg a triple double. No basktetball player ever has gotten their rings alone, I never said that. But to be a spear header of those rings,
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
cont, MJ did that 6 times. 3 peats, not that many teams have done them. Not even Magic, Bird or Isaiah have won 3 peats. It's seldom accomplished - and those teams that did it has dominant centers, MJ didn't - get the point?? geeez seriously you're slow or something?? No one is saying he's god, but most of the so called best hall of famers haven't accomplished what he has...is hard as shit to lead the league in scoring, no center and win rings...is tough as shit - so from that stand point
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
cont..from that standpoint alone he's considered the best ever, forget the fact that the NBA was a lost cause and how he revolutionized the NBA and made it what it is today world wide. But that's beside the point, he's self accolades and team accolades speak for them selves. No one said he did it alone....I tell you one thing you ask anyone in the who played for the bulls in those 6 years, and they'll tell you without him they would not have won. The numbers speak for god sakes! geez ur slow
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
Wow, did you just say the League was a lost cause when he entered the League? You really must know nothing at all. Because the golden era started with Magic and Bird winning all those championships in the 80s not Jordan in the 90s. Of course he revolutionized the game but so did Bird and Magic. So go suck on someone elses dick because I think Jordans tired of you being on his lol
Facebook289 2 years ago
ask David Stern how much the league changed after MJ came to the league? Ask him??. U know nothing dude, the fact the Larry and Magic were even mentioned that shows me that u don't know shit!!...about what Mj did to the game. do u know what's shit is? that's exactly what you know SHIT! I'm here debating thinking u know what u talking about apparently not. shaking my head at this fucking clown.
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
wow, lame and immature. You dont know what your talking bout. Because the NBA revived in the 1980s and you ask any purist or expert of the game how Bird and Magic revolutionized and brought the NBA back to its eminence. MJ brought his thing in the game but him in the 90s was not Magic and Bird in the 80s. The mere fact your going off with this temper tandrum shows me how incapable you are of having an intelligent debate with someone who disagrees with you. What a pathetic idiot.
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you're just a complete idiot. We're going in circles and you have no clue what you are saying, it's evident in your responses. That Larry and Magic had an impact in the 80s I'm not denying that. But even then you ask Larry and Magic and they will tell you that Michael elevated the game to what it is today. Magic and Larry has stated that. That's all I'm saying. You're making it seem as if I'm not recognizing that in the 80s with Magic n bird did wasn't spectacular, but in 1984 that's when
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
your responses are asinine and useless. Its as if you talk without knowing what spouts out of your mouth. Hint, when you talk about someones intelligence, make sure yours is superior to theirs because you just make yourself look like a complete ass. but its okay. im going 2 leave it at that.
Facebook289 2 years ago
yeah just leave it at that...'cause after reading what I wrote you realized how much of an idiot u are , and at the end we were both practically saying the same thing. Just you're level of comprehension is a notch below the normal human being.
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
I think your gay or something really. You need help.
Facebook289 2 years ago
Bill Russell. But i guess you and the fanatics believe its best to stay on his dick and not question your own predisposed beliefs. Socrates had a word for people like you its called "Ignoramus". New word of the day. Look it up faggot
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cont.
it all changed, although as far as rings were concerned Celtics and Lakers were the team to watch, mid to late 80s MJ was the face of the league - no matter whether you admit it or not, is a fact. The funny thing is as for individual accolades MJ was already winning them in the 80s, with Bird and Magic in the league.lol. scoring titles, Mvps, defensive player of the year, etc. and Magic, Bird, Isaiah, Bernard King, Dominque, Clyde were all still in the league..hehe. as a rook avg:28.2 ppg
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
You probably didnt even graduate from high school. And your commenting on someone's intelligence when you can't even spell right? You really dont have a leg to stand on when it comes to that. If you were a witness testifying at trial, your credibility would be zero. Your intelligence is commensurate with a retard who can't even tie his own shoes. In terms of basketball knowledge its zero. And the amount of dickriding youve done its almost more than a female pornstar. Its pathetic.
Facebook289 2 years ago
Dude, you are seriously a delusional clown. You need intervention. Had this been a face to face conversation you would of looked like a total ass. You just talk for the sake of talking.
What does graduating from HS even have to do with anything? SMH at this clown seriously. You know nothing about basketball,zero, air, nada. You're a fan, a stan from the outside looking in. You're seriously a lame fuck who fails to acknowledge facts. You lack understanding the game of basketball.
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
Your just engaging in idiotic arguments about the same thing without any facts to support it. Your intellect is tantamount to that of a split brain patient. A fan? Bitch your a michael jordan fanatic that wont stop sucking his dick. As far as delusion is concerned, your delusional for thinking Michael Jordan is going 2 stay the greatest. By the way, that is a matter of opinion. Not fact. Your talking bout players in different eras and I promise you he wouldnt win all those rings facing
Facebook289 2 years ago
until someone comes to the league avg almost 30ppg shoots 50% for a career wins multiple MVPs, rings, defensive player of the year...etc..not matter what era they played in ..MJ is the best to ever do it - the numbers are there..what do you want me to do?? You don't have to believe me the numbers are there...plain and simple. No matter how u slice it dumb motherfucker you're not winning - ur clueless stop it doc. I don't like the circus, so going forward I'll ignore this fucking clown.
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
your clueless and you are a fag. I want you to stop being gay. Thats it and please do. because you just dont know what you are talking about.
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luckylefty232323 2 years ago
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omg ur only 19?? hahahahaa I get my lil sister to fuck u up hahahahahaha...ur just a kid...no wonder u come off the way u do. hahahaha...go read a book, or do an internship of some sort. Calling me a fag is not going to wipe out Mjs numbers...lol u dick. hahahahahahaha...oh man..children these days...
luckylefty232323 2 years ago
i can understand why u like Kobe u never really saw MJ play until maybe with the wizards. Now I understand.
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IIExhibitAII 2 years ago
mvp really goes to the person that helped a team the most kobe doesnt need to with the lakers, so mvp shouldnt really be the issue
mistabigg007 2 years ago
basketball knowledge the fuck outta here and get off Jordans dick you faggot.
Facebook289 2 years ago
long live the mamba
BeefPapa 3 years ago
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the nigger mamba
tangaakokiratako 3 years ago
fuck u
ljames171 3 years ago 3
ur just a jealous peice of shit
bitch
forgetyou555 3 years ago
he's jealous and racist
kevin15721 3 years ago
stfu racist fuck. im white and i think thats racist
dragonforcerockhard 3 years ago
LMFAOO!!!! fucking fags go get married ya im sexist and racist and im WHITE!...hahaha fags
GTOlR1 3 years ago
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come on dude just because ur a niger.
CarmeloAnthonyMVP15 3 years ago
kobe really does play like he is a black mamba tho he attacks from all angles and he stuns u like whoah...dont taze me bro...~
CreekWSV 3 years ago 5
watch?v=jO-bFFn12N8
kid195 3 years ago
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well, crybaby VIRGIN MIKEDUMBFUCK is in his mom's basement, and chatting with kids online like a pedophile...
You might see this LOSER on Chris Jansen's MSNBC show, catching virgin pedophiles....hahahahahahaha...LMFAO
nparga23 3 years ago
he aint no human he's a kinda ET or sumptin lyk dat
loshalamos4jliue 3 years ago
no actually Sam Cassell looks like ET
hibachi4mvp 3 years ago 11
We call him the new mike...in Chicago and then everyone says. "don't say that" lol.
3rdSupreme 3 years ago
i just wonder...after more than 10 years in the NBA...why is it that kobe doesnt have a monicker that everybody can identify him with....like that of "his airness"..."the mailman" etc. etc.
black mamba may be known by a few..but not by evryone..
carljason0110 3 years ago 3
because there is no monicker that can identify with the greatness he has shown over his career.
bigscooby51 3 years ago 4
lol.
very clever reasoning
lol
carljason0110 3 years ago
or how about this one KOBE the CLOsER :D
kane1987 3 years ago
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I hate kobe
VMmp3 3 years ago
what the name the song''?
polgarw 4 years ago
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LA RAPERS SUCK!!!
twisted337 4 years ago
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fuck u buddy ass hole go get a life fag ima kick ur ass fag
guppa0 4 years ago
lmao at online fights hahahaha
yoshiyuan 4 years ago 3
great music!!!I love star wars songs...
aitorec 4 years ago 4
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stop being a jackass. ;)
thebrucebIitzchanneI 4 years ago
what is the name of this song "quiero"? Who is the singer?
polgarw 4 years ago 4
bruce blitz is a hating bitch. end of story.
Kobeistite 4 years ago 6
agreed
kidmamba24 4 years ago 4
agreed
Mobster06 3 years ago
titec
Kobeistite 4 years ago