Sectariasm is wrong I do agree our country was ment to mix and not just be a culturized view, so I even disagree with a comment jcdc or whomever that comentist was saying his 2nd amendment comes first. He may be right, but I highly agree with people having there personal opinions and that is what makes our country unlike under God one of the best country's in the world.
your question: does obama include "secular atheists"? way more than anyone before him. maybe thomas jefferson or thomas paine. that's why i voted for him.
this was heavily edited. his faith is uncomfortable in that he can reason thru it. that is refreshing.
now if obama dissed the national prayer breakfast, and didn't say 'god bless america' every time we fixed a pot hole or found a run away dog... well, that would be awesome!
The Bible is the foundation of christianity, and since the passages read by Barack (and many more others which he didn't) prove that it was written by primitive, mortal men. How can you believe in supernatural magicks when they're just made up by a bunch of dudes in robes and sandals to help control society by fear of the afterlife? I'm pretty sure Obama, being the normal, intelligent person that he is, doesn't believe any of that crap either.
Obama isnt an atheist....he is just not a "fundamentlaist" or "evangelical" which means he doesnt take the bible word for word literally!!! He does believe in God though.
He is however.......THE ANTI-CHRIST
Type in "obama anti christ" on here and watch those videos!!!! He will kill us all in the name of his own master (Satan)
This is as close as Obama can get to telling the truth about religion considering that it is impossible for a freethinker to win an election in the US.
Of course Abraham from this story was a dangerous psychopath that would be institutionalized in today's society. Absolute majority of scientists are atheists, but they don't have to elected by uneducated masses for their jobs. Politicians have to embrace this nonsense or never even get a chance.
""Obama is actually a closet black racist who will turn the White House into a black Muslim enclave""... Do you read the non-sense you type before posting?
I watched them and yes you lied. Bush didn't say what you claim he did and you gave evidence which in no way showed he did. I no longer wish to converse with someone like yourself who is so deceptive.
It is not wrong or evil to kill in self defense. Actually, it is an obligation a person has if it is to defend life. Radical Islamic terrorist took many innocent lives and were threatning to take a lot more. If soldiers love their counrty and countrymen and wish to defend her from her enemies, there is ALWAYS a risk. That is why they are admired and honored by us. We DO NOT use their misfortunes at times for political gain and weapons of hate like ya sorry asses.
go Obama--- its time to stop the divisions and come together. We can't keep dividing everyone and being intolerant of each other. Time to give respect to other viewpoints
People Obama is associated with are the major dividers. They is how they obtain and maintain their power base. The saddest thing is they use the minorities to do it. Instead of empowering them, they manipulate many of them, causing a state of victimhood, to where they do their bidding. In a socialist state, the Civil Rights Act of 1965 gets thrown out, then majority rules.
A lot of what he just said made sense. Is it straight relativism? Not quite...the world simply isn't the same, and biblical principals can still be enacted today. It is the same as Christianity between cultures...it ends up looking different, with the same goal in sight.
So are you saying Nurse Jill Stanek was wrong when she blew the whistle on the Chicago hospital for letting born babies die on shelves in soiled utility rooms and in trash cans. Is that why you fought the Born Alive Infant protection Act 2002 when even the Abortion Federation supported it. Is that why you argued for "infanticide" in congress when you argued that a premature baby that is born is not a person and shouldn't be protected by the US laws or constitution? You are OSP (One sick puppy)
I don't believe in abortion either but the number one priority right now is global warming which can end civilization in the next 4 yrs. We have to save this planet first in order for other issues to exist. To me, committing speciesism and eating meat is a large moral concern but it might not be to you. I can't say, "for that, you're one sick puppy" because you believe differently. We need Obama to save the planet and end the stupid war first.
save the planet? Don't you understand that the planet will survive if it were a giant magma ball? And not only that, it will not have an impact in 4 years, or even 100 years. And by that time we will have used most of the words fossil fuses.
Global warming is just a scare tactic to try and keep people in line. The climate is slightly increasing, but its not going to destroy mankind, much less the planet.
What do you know! Listening to you is like listening to the devil. People like you are the one that destroys the planet and prevent others from the truth. I guess you haven't done much research but just talk very selfishly.
Sorry for being a little rude but I just can't stand it when people assumes the planet is ok with the exponentially growing population. Top NASA scientists finally admits that ice in the Antarctic will be gone by the summer of 2012 if we keep pumping C02 at this current rate. Once the ice is gone, 90% of the heat would not be reflected back to space but straight to the dark ocean which will cause a chain of warming effects to the ocean.
You were a little rude? You said i was the devil...
But any ways, the world can continue with out the polor ice caps. There were none during the age of dinosaurs and the climate was much more warmer than it is now year round.
And humans have the means to reflect sun light easily. Off the top of my head, you could construct a bunch of mirrors or white pannles over the arctic or antartic to do the same thing the white snow does.
Sorry again for the rudeness,please forgive me, I really feel bad now. How do you know if there weren't any ice back in the dinosaurs' age, if there were no ice, the average global temperature would of been like 300 degrees or so and no living thing would of survive. With your creative ideas, I think it's a great solution as long as I get to laugh at you wearing that device on your head. Check out my SOS video.
I know because of the research done by geologists. And the avarage global temperature wasn't 300. (Do you even understand temperature? 212 is the boiling point of water.)
Do some research on the Jurasic or Triassic period.
That was just an exaggeration. My point was that if we didn't have ice, the planet wouldn't be able to sustain the humans because it would be way too hot.
I know that global warming is true. I know that more carbon dioxide causes a green house effect. I know that the media grossly overstates its urgency. And i know that many people can't stand the idea that the world is ever changing.
The world is getting hotter. Glaciers are melting. But life will adapt no mater what global warming would do to it.
Life is able to survive through ice ages and giant meteor impacts. Life will evolve and conform to what ever happens.
We will survive only if we switch to alternative energy and become vegetarians. If not, the planet cannot sustain. Please do more research and be part of the solution instead of the problem.
You're just a pussy that can't accept the cruelty of nature and the changes that will happen to the world.
You have a completely different agenda than saving the world. You just want people to follow what you believe on a which is opinion based so you make it seem like we NEED to conform to YOUR ways you self righteous peace of shit.
You care nothing for the world, only for your own version of socialism.
Don't be so angry and violent here. Everything I'm telling you is scientifically backed up, go look it up yourself. Having a selfish perception will only harm yourself.
It is not scientifically backed up. It is only an opinion that you believe for reasons other than logic. More based off of your personal opinions. We will not die if we use up all fossil fuels in the world. It wont be the same as it is now, and climate would change, but most humans would still beable to adapt.
People can go from living in alaska then move to hawaii and adapt perfectly fine.
That is a much much larger difference than anything global warming has predicted.
That is just the good news about global warming that we can adapt and move, but my concern is the methane gas that is erupting from the ocean-bed. In the Santa Barbara channels, it is happening right now. Scientists and people around are concerned about this which is all too new to them. Also research about the perma-frost in Antarctica which can release enormous shit-load of methane gases.
Methane hydrate which is 23 times more potent than C02 will be released from the cold ocean-bed and permafrost due to the intense warming of the ocean. There is enough gases in the ocean to poison us all.
Yes, in regards to warming the planet. Saying that heat doesn't matter is so incorrect. The heating is what has been causing all these record-beating natural disaster.
No, you fucking moron. Global warming isn't causing more natural disasters. It's just plain nature. All factors of weather are more than just heat. Blaming global warming on something like a monsoon is like blaming the flap of a butterfly's wing on wind storms half way across the world.
Whose talking about abortion. Those babies were born, breathing, crying, and not connected to their mother in any way. they were outside the mother's womb. It was INFANTICIDE. Are you telling me you are unsure what I am referring to or that you support INFANTICIDE?
lol, I didn't know it was that bad. I definitely do not support infanticide as much as I do not support abortion. I'll still vote for Obama since McCain is not noble either. Obama's policies can at least save the planet, end the wrong war and open up some transparency in government
Save the planet for who? End the war for who? Transparency in government for whom? As Abraham Lincoln said - "If death is to be our lot, we ourselves must be it's author. What countries have legalized infanticide? I was born premature but my parents nor the hospital could kill me because I had rights as an American citizen. Listen to what Obama said. His argument would have taken away that right. Slowly take away our right to life and NOBODY will be safe.
Save the planet for your childrens and so that everything else also exist, end the wrong war for wasteful spending and unnecessary death. Transparency so that we know what the government is doing instead of letting them do everything behind closed door. I totally agree with you with Obama's stance on this issue and don't support it at all. Obama and McCain is like worse and worser, but we have to pick the best for now and I think Obama is the choice.
Children? What children? He supported infanticide as an Illinois Senator and then as a US Senator. He opposed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act 2002 and argued that a born baby that was born premature is not a person. Even the Abortion Federation supported this act and was against Infanticide. And I am to believe he loves us and the planet. Bull shit. I am to old for that kinda crap. He ia Vamboozling you.
McCain I believe, and also Alan Keyes would hold the line between legalized abortion and infanticide. Neither one of them or their parties are strong enough to outlaw abortion. But they would be strong enough to stop legalized infanticide. Obama however, with the power of the presidency and the major media outlet and party would have the power to possible suspend the constitution and open up legalized infanticide. Ex. Hugo Chavez almost succeeded and might if not resisted by US support.
It's unique that you're the first one I know that base your vote over the issue of infanticide . I respect that you feel strongly about this. Is there any other reason that you would vote for McCain?
Yes there is a lot of other reasons why I would vote for McCain over Obama. A few reasons why I wouldn't: such as that korny smile he sometimes gives. lol But none of that matters because those are issues for me. The other are qualifications for the job. In other words, I have and so do others have our own qualification checklist for the job of presidency. Not killing her born citizens is one of them.
You sound very loving and compassionate when you talk about infants, but what confuses me is your support of the war which will kill thousands more people. How can you accept the killing of our own citizens and many more Iraqi people by voting for McCain?
Because not to fight means a lot more lives will be lost. Maybe even your own if there is no one there to defend your sorry ass. that is how I know you don't give a shit about our men and women who die fighting for us or the Iraq people who were massecred by their dictator, because you don't give a shit about an innocent baby being murdered.
So you're saying we should fight forever..Bush almost got impeachment for lying to us Americans. There lives over there are worst than ever, and the new dictator will even be scarier than Sadam. Don't be mad because love war, I don't mind if the war was for a good reason. It's all about oil and business, not our safety. Don't be so naive.
I'm to old for political rherotric. Bush never came close to impeachment. Ever notice the movies always had disclaimers of being fictional. The world and most Americans would have reacted if there were any substance to the rumored allergations. His political enemies would have brought forth creditable information and legal proceedings in a second if these things they said was true. But it wasn't. History taught us never to abandon a country after winning (Ex. WWI and Germany) until ...
until stability is achieved. It would be not only a grave mistake but also very irresponsible to create a political vaccuum and then leave. When we had to go back it will be a lot worse. As a leaders of the world, we have responsibilities and obligations to ensure future peace.
You don't remember Bush saying this war would be very short and its been six years already. Now he doesn't mind if it's on for fifty years and McCain even mentioned about 100 years. By that time, we will owe many triilions of dollar. We are so tied up with the Iraq war that Bin Laden is not the main focus anymore. Bin Laden just comes out with more new videos all the time.
No I don't and I remember watching his speech before we went to war. He SAID IT WOULDN"T be short. You are making up lies now. The war on terrorists was going to be long and might involve several countries. You make up 50 to 100 years to discourage.
If any other danger strikes us, our military capacity and funds are so tied up that we would be less efficient. Bush's excuse was Weapon of Mass Distruction which turns out to be wrong. We need to threaten to leave in order for their government to stand up, then we can send in war crime policing, humanitarian work and UN involvement. The withdrawal will be careful and gradual as in two brigades per month.
Thousands more come home with one eye, no legs, blown-off faces, ruined and devastated families looking at their daughters great injuries. Even worst in regards to Iraqi's civilian who doesn't even have doctors to attend to their injuries. Millions have been left in refugee camps with little food and water. How can you support all of these and have a good conscience still ChulaKirby?
It's called a Professional Paid Military who put their lives and limbs on the line to defend and protect you and me and our freedoms. Despite the liberals murmuring "murderes" under their breaths. And silently accuse THEM of being terrorists. I have more feeling towards terrorist who bombed us with airplanes, who have never lived here and are partly brainwashed, than ya sorry asses who have lived here all your lives. Ya committ treason without cause and pretend to care for our soldiers.
Sectariasm is wrong I do agree our country was ment to mix and not just be a culturized view, so I even disagree with a comment jcdc or whomever that comentist was saying his 2nd amendment comes first. He may be right, but I highly agree with people having there personal opinions and that is what makes our country unlike under God one of the best country's in the world.
suprfly5555555578 1 year ago
your question: does obama include "secular atheists"? way more than anyone before him. maybe thomas jefferson or thomas paine. that's why i voted for him.
this was heavily edited. his faith is uncomfortable in that he can reason thru it. that is refreshing.
now if obama dissed the national prayer breakfast, and didn't say 'god bless america' every time we fixed a pot hole or found a run away dog... well, that would be awesome!
tomitstube 2 years ago
So what If he is? I personally think he is. You could tell at the innaguration how he was during the prayer, this might actually be good.
ballaboy5000 3 years ago
The Bible is the foundation of christianity, and since the passages read by Barack (and many more others which he didn't) prove that it was written by primitive, mortal men. How can you believe in supernatural magicks when they're just made up by a bunch of dudes in robes and sandals to help control society by fear of the afterlife? I'm pretty sure Obama, being the normal, intelligent person that he is, doesn't believe any of that crap either.
goldragon988 3 years ago
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Obama isnt an atheist....he is just not a "fundamentlaist" or "evangelical" which means he doesnt take the bible word for word literally!!! He does believe in God though.
He is however.......THE ANTI-CHRIST
Type in "obama anti christ" on here and watch those videos!!!! He will kill us all in the name of his own master (Satan)
buffboynick 3 years ago
are you joking? cause if you are, lulz. if your not, wtf?
Xiller8 3 years ago
No, he's just America's first black president.
ballaboy5000 3 years ago
@buffboynick ~ shut the fuck up you syphilis carrying sheep fucking inbred redneck pussy...
R-edneck
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D-runk
N-eanderthal
E -lazy
C-racker
K-bitch
tomitstube 2 years ago
He as to be 1 of the smartest on this earth.
Peonardon 3 years ago
This is as close as Obama can get to telling the truth about religion considering that it is impossible for a freethinker to win an election in the US.
Of course Abraham from this story was a dangerous psychopath that would be institutionalized in today's society. Absolute majority of scientists are atheists, but they don't have to elected by uneducated masses for their jobs. Politicians have to embrace this nonsense or never even get a chance.
pajkost 3 years ago
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Christians beware of Barack Hussein Obama! if you seek GOD, HE WILL SHOW YOU THAT THIS MAN IS DANGEROUS!
BRPIPING 3 years ago
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What kind of name is Barack Hussein Obama?...
Farrahkan says that Obama is a lot like "Muhammad", Islam's "savior".
Obama is a very slick speaker.... It is a scary thought that he could become President.. We really don't know what he stands for and against...
"Obama is actually a closet black racist who will turn the White House into a black Muslim enclave"
BRPIPING 3 years ago
""Obama is actually a closet black racist who will turn the White House into a black Muslim enclave""... Do you read the non-sense you type before posting?
IPA300 3 years ago
Obama snr is an atheist.
MounDoGG 3 years ago 2
May in the future. you can say thanks President Barack Obama. because you bring back my Dignity , My Job , My house , My wife , my family .
Thanks to bring us back the Cowboys . the american Kids .
Let me gues . you dont have Kids at the front now.
so think about it . please dont`t come here to vomit YOUR s.uks thues. time out PLEASE
rinaldo65rinaldo 3 years ago
Yes! This is the best of all the comments on this video.
pehresma 3 years ago
Whoops, meant to reply to palookabutt's comment below.
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pehresma 3 years ago
I watched them and yes you lied. Bush didn't say what you claim he did and you gave evidence which in no way showed he did. I no longer wish to converse with someone like yourself who is so deceptive.
ChulaKirby 3 years ago
It is not wrong or evil to kill in self defense. Actually, it is an obligation a person has if it is to defend life. Radical Islamic terrorist took many innocent lives and were threatning to take a lot more. If soldiers love their counrty and countrymen and wish to defend her from her enemies, there is ALWAYS a risk. That is why they are admired and honored by us. We DO NOT use their misfortunes at times for political gain and weapons of hate like ya sorry asses.
ChulaKirby 3 years ago
There was no terrorist in Iraq before we invaded. Sadam hated terrorist and killed terrorist.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
Yee fucking ha!!
robtul12 3 years ago
Obama surprises me with this talk of science & reason.
He's talking about religion as a cop-out and a negative system.
very interesting.
he's calling out the bs in the bible.
I LOVE IT.
unfortunately, Obama has strayed away from this noble nature.
godlesspatriot 3 years ago 2
go Obama--- its time to stop the divisions and come together. We can't keep dividing everyone and being intolerant of each other. Time to give respect to other viewpoints
13seven13 3 years ago
People Obama is associated with are the major dividers. They is how they obtain and maintain their power base. The saddest thing is they use the minorities to do it. Instead of empowering them, they manipulate many of them, causing a state of victimhood, to where they do their bidding. In a socialist state, the Civil Rights Act of 1965 gets thrown out, then majority rules.
ChulaKirby 3 years ago
A lot of what he just said made sense. Is it straight relativism? Not quite...the world simply isn't the same, and biblical principals can still be enacted today. It is the same as Christianity between cultures...it ends up looking different, with the same goal in sight.
theimpossible15 3 years ago
This relativism is just simply BORING
bezmolvie 3 years ago
Go Obama!!!
pastelmoon 3 years ago
So are you saying Nurse Jill Stanek was wrong when she blew the whistle on the Chicago hospital for letting born babies die on shelves in soiled utility rooms and in trash cans. Is that why you fought the Born Alive Infant protection Act 2002 when even the Abortion Federation supported it. Is that why you argued for "infanticide" in congress when you argued that a premature baby that is born is not a person and shouldn't be protected by the US laws or constitution? You are OSP (One sick puppy)
ChulaKirby 3 years ago
I don't believe in abortion either but the number one priority right now is global warming which can end civilization in the next 4 yrs. We have to save this planet first in order for other issues to exist. To me, committing speciesism and eating meat is a large moral concern but it might not be to you. I can't say, "for that, you're one sick puppy" because you believe differently. We need Obama to save the planet and end the stupid war first.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
save the planet? Don't you understand that the planet will survive if it were a giant magma ball? And not only that, it will not have an impact in 4 years, or even 100 years. And by that time we will have used most of the words fossil fuses.
Global warming is just a scare tactic to try and keep people in line. The climate is slightly increasing, but its not going to destroy mankind, much less the planet.
EmperorEva0001 3 years ago
What do you know! Listening to you is like listening to the devil. People like you are the one that destroys the planet and prevent others from the truth. I guess you haven't done much research but just talk very selfishly.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
Sorry for being a little rude but I just can't stand it when people assumes the planet is ok with the exponentially growing population. Top NASA scientists finally admits that ice in the Antarctic will be gone by the summer of 2012 if we keep pumping C02 at this current rate. Once the ice is gone, 90% of the heat would not be reflected back to space but straight to the dark ocean which will cause a chain of warming effects to the ocean.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
You were a little rude? You said i was the devil...
But any ways, the world can continue with out the polor ice caps. There were none during the age of dinosaurs and the climate was much more warmer than it is now year round.
And humans have the means to reflect sun light easily. Off the top of my head, you could construct a bunch of mirrors or white pannles over the arctic or antartic to do the same thing the white snow does.
EmperorEva0001 3 years ago
Sorry again for the rudeness,please forgive me, I really feel bad now. How do you know if there weren't any ice back in the dinosaurs' age, if there were no ice, the average global temperature would of been like 300 degrees or so and no living thing would of survive. With your creative ideas, I think it's a great solution as long as I get to laugh at you wearing that device on your head. Check out my SOS video.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
I know because of the research done by geologists. And the avarage global temperature wasn't 300. (Do you even understand temperature? 212 is the boiling point of water.)
Do some research on the Jurasic or Triassic period.
EmperorEva0001 3 years ago
That was just an exaggeration. My point was that if we didn't have ice, the planet wouldn't be able to sustain the humans because it would be way too hot.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
I know that global warming is true. I know that more carbon dioxide causes a green house effect. I know that the media grossly overstates its urgency. And i know that many people can't stand the idea that the world is ever changing.
The world is getting hotter. Glaciers are melting. But life will adapt no mater what global warming would do to it.
Life is able to survive through ice ages and giant meteor impacts. Life will evolve and conform to what ever happens.
EmperorEva0001 3 years ago
We will survive only if we switch to alternative energy and become vegetarians. If not, the planet cannot sustain. Please do more research and be part of the solution instead of the problem.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
That's one of the dumbest things i've ever heard.
You're just a pussy that can't accept the cruelty of nature and the changes that will happen to the world.
You have a completely different agenda than saving the world. You just want people to follow what you believe on a which is opinion based so you make it seem like we NEED to conform to YOUR ways you self righteous peace of shit.
You care nothing for the world, only for your own version of socialism.
Go kill your self.
EmperorEva0001 3 years ago
Don't be so angry and violent here. Everything I'm telling you is scientifically backed up, go look it up yourself. Having a selfish perception will only harm yourself.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
It is not scientifically backed up. It is only an opinion that you believe for reasons other than logic. More based off of your personal opinions. We will not die if we use up all fossil fuels in the world. It wont be the same as it is now, and climate would change, but most humans would still beable to adapt.
People can go from living in alaska then move to hawaii and adapt perfectly fine.
That is a much much larger difference than anything global warming has predicted.
EmperorEva0001 3 years ago
That is just the good news about global warming that we can adapt and move, but my concern is the methane gas that is erupting from the ocean-bed. In the Santa Barbara channels, it is happening right now. Scientists and people around are concerned about this which is all too new to them. Also research about the perma-frost in Antarctica which can release enormous shit-load of methane gases.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
Methane hydrate which is 23 times more potent than C02 will be released from the cold ocean-bed and permafrost due to the intense warming of the ocean. There is enough gases in the ocean to poison us all.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
That sounds more like a lot of speculative "the world is ending" non sense.
Your first statement about Methane Hydrate being more potent than co2.
More potent at what? Toxicity? Because CO2 isn't harmful to humans.
At causing more of a greenhouse effect? I already explained why more heat doesn't mater.
You probably just don't like the idea of pollution and get behind the global warming just because it's popular.
Global warming isn't the biggest threat out there.
EmperorEva0001 3 years ago
Yes, in regards to warming the planet. Saying that heat doesn't matter is so incorrect. The heating is what has been causing all these record-beating natural disaster.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
No, you fucking moron. Global warming isn't causing more natural disasters. It's just plain nature. All factors of weather are more than just heat. Blaming global warming on something like a monsoon is like blaming the flap of a butterfly's wing on wind storms half way across the world.
Correlative doesn't equal causation.
EmperorEva0001 3 years ago
I guess you don't know much about global warming. Please go do more research before you lead everyone down the ditch Peace out-)
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
I've done plenty of research in it. Its just that the effect it will cause isn't worth trying to control but to allow the world to change.
EmperorEva0001 3 years ago
You have to research on the chain-effect cycle. The computers can't even accurately predict it, it's crazy.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
If it can't be predicted, then why would i have to do research on it. To just see that people don't know what effect it would have?
BTW, when you hear any kind of natural disaster that can't be predicted what kind of effect it would have, theres a swell chance that its bullshit.
Trying to worry about it is just waisted time, just like talking to a bais fella like your self. I'm not going to get any where with you so i'm done.
EmperorEva0001 3 years ago
Lol, that's true, we're not going anywhere.haha Fine...check this series to kinda get the idea watch?v=O8qmaAMK4cM
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
Heat isn't the only factor though. There is also geographic location, air pressure, humidity, ect
EmperorEva0001 3 years ago
I know, but the warming of the ocean is due mostly to the rise of global temperature.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
Whose talking about abortion. Those babies were born, breathing, crying, and not connected to their mother in any way. they were outside the mother's womb. It was INFANTICIDE. Are you telling me you are unsure what I am referring to or that you support INFANTICIDE?
ChulaKirby 3 years ago
lol, I didn't know it was that bad. I definitely do not support infanticide as much as I do not support abortion. I'll still vote for Obama since McCain is not noble either. Obama's policies can at least save the planet, end the wrong war and open up some transparency in government
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
Save the planet for who? End the war for who? Transparency in government for whom? As Abraham Lincoln said - "If death is to be our lot, we ourselves must be it's author. What countries have legalized infanticide? I was born premature but my parents nor the hospital could kill me because I had rights as an American citizen. Listen to what Obama said. His argument would have taken away that right. Slowly take away our right to life and NOBODY will be safe.
ChulaKirby 3 years ago
Save the planet for your childrens and so that everything else also exist, end the wrong war for wasteful spending and unnecessary death. Transparency so that we know what the government is doing instead of letting them do everything behind closed door. I totally agree with you with Obama's stance on this issue and don't support it at all. Obama and McCain is like worse and worser, but we have to pick the best for now and I think Obama is the choice.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
Children? What children? He supported infanticide as an Illinois Senator and then as a US Senator. He opposed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act 2002 and argued that a born baby that was born premature is not a person. Even the Abortion Federation supported this act and was against Infanticide. And I am to believe he loves us and the planet. Bull shit. I am to old for that kinda crap. He ia Vamboozling you.
ChulaKirby 3 years ago
Tell me how McCain will improve this country then?
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
McCain I believe, and also Alan Keyes would hold the line between legalized abortion and infanticide. Neither one of them or their parties are strong enough to outlaw abortion. But they would be strong enough to stop legalized infanticide. Obama however, with the power of the presidency and the major media outlet and party would have the power to possible suspend the constitution and open up legalized infanticide. Ex. Hugo Chavez almost succeeded and might if not resisted by US support.
ChulaKirby 3 years ago
of overturning the Venazula constitution and establishing socialism.
ChulaKirby 3 years ago
It's unique that you're the first one I know that base your vote over the issue of infanticide . I respect that you feel strongly about this. Is there any other reason that you would vote for McCain?
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
Yes there is a lot of other reasons why I would vote for McCain over Obama. A few reasons why I wouldn't: such as that korny smile he sometimes gives. lol But none of that matters because those are issues for me. The other are qualifications for the job. In other words, I have and so do others have our own qualification checklist for the job of presidency. Not killing her born citizens is one of them.
ChulaKirby 3 years ago
You haven't told me one issue or idea that McCain is great on?
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
You sound very loving and compassionate when you talk about infants, but what confuses me is your support of the war which will kill thousands more people. How can you accept the killing of our own citizens and many more Iraqi people by voting for McCain?
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
Because not to fight means a lot more lives will be lost. Maybe even your own if there is no one there to defend your sorry ass. that is how I know you don't give a shit about our men and women who die fighting for us or the Iraq people who were massecred by their dictator, because you don't give a shit about an innocent baby being murdered.
ChulaKirby 3 years ago
So you're saying we should fight forever..Bush almost got impeachment for lying to us Americans. There lives over there are worst than ever, and the new dictator will even be scarier than Sadam. Don't be mad because love war, I don't mind if the war was for a good reason. It's all about oil and business, not our safety. Don't be so naive.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
I'm to old for political rherotric. Bush never came close to impeachment. Ever notice the movies always had disclaimers of being fictional. The world and most Americans would have reacted if there were any substance to the rumored allergations. His political enemies would have brought forth creditable information and legal proceedings in a second if these things they said was true. But it wasn't. History taught us never to abandon a country after winning (Ex. WWI and Germany) until ...
ChulaKirby 3 years ago
until stability is achieved. It would be not only a grave mistake but also very irresponsible to create a political vaccuum and then leave. When we had to go back it will be a lot worse. As a leaders of the world, we have responsibilities and obligations to ensure future peace.
ChulaKirby 3 years ago
You don't remember Bush saying this war would be very short and its been six years already. Now he doesn't mind if it's on for fifty years and McCain even mentioned about 100 years. By that time, we will owe many triilions of dollar. We are so tied up with the Iraq war that Bin Laden is not the main focus anymore. Bin Laden just comes out with more new videos all the time.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
No I don't and I remember watching his speech before we went to war. He SAID IT WOULDN"T be short. You are making up lies now. The war on terrorists was going to be long and might involve several countries. You make up 50 to 100 years to discourage.
ChulaKirby 3 years ago
I'm not lying! Check these 2 out. watch?v=w67Bk9xAAT8
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Dangerwinn 3 years ago
If any other danger strikes us, our military capacity and funds are so tied up that we would be less efficient. Bush's excuse was Weapon of Mass Distruction which turns out to be wrong. We need to threaten to leave in order for their government to stand up, then we can send in war crime policing, humanitarian work and UN involvement. The withdrawal will be careful and gradual as in two brigades per month.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
Once Iraq knows that we're leaving, they will try to take charge then we can finally aid them in diplomacy work and country's stability.
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
Thousands more come home with one eye, no legs, blown-off faces, ruined and devastated families looking at their daughters great injuries. Even worst in regards to Iraqi's civilian who doesn't even have doctors to attend to their injuries. Millions have been left in refugee camps with little food and water. How can you support all of these and have a good conscience still ChulaKirby?
Dangerwinn 3 years ago
It's called a Professional Paid Military who put their lives and limbs on the line to defend and protect you and me and our freedoms. Despite the liberals murmuring "murderes" under their breaths. And silently accuse THEM of being terrorists. I have more feeling towards terrorist who bombed us with airplanes, who have never lived here and are partly brainwashed, than ya sorry asses who have lived here all your lives. Ya committ treason without cause and pretend to care for our soldiers.
ChulaKirby 3 years ago
You may not get another chance if history is repeated. Usually leaders who support INFANTICIDE don't give up their office willingly.
ChulaKirby 3 years ago
It's a huge step in the right direction.
Much better than McCain--or Bush--or Huckabee!
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