Children are beautiful, and are undistorted. When children have good parents, they usually turn out good. His calls to the planes were clear and very competent. I was this clear when I was 11, and I rode in Cessna 172 a few times and was "well aware" and my attention level was perfect. I wanted to become a pilot, but it didn't work out. My parents never had the money back then (about $3000.oo ) or were not smart enough to finance it. A friend of ours was the pilot. He was an amazing guy.
Based on your judgment any child can do provide the ATC service as long as they are under the wise supervision of their parents.
Next time they will support doctors bringing children to the surgery room to make supervised little incisions to a patient in the middle of a surgical operation.
Policemen having their kids read the Miranda rights while the handcuff a suspect.
ATC is a serious, professional and highly regulated business
Based on your judgment any child can do provide the ATC service as long as they are under the wise supervision of their parents.
Next time they will support doctors bringing children to the surgery room to make supervised little incisions to a patient in the middle of a surgical operation.
Policemen having their kids read the Miranda rights while the handcuff a suspect.
ATC is a serious, professional and highly regulated business
@AirTrafficControl1 Oh, please, it was nothing like that, as you well know. What harm can come if a highly supervised child simply tells a plane that it is clear for takeoff?
sounds like the kid knows his crap wonder if hes taken his mercury shots or drinks the floride water i bet not good job dad looks like we got one that can see
This incident is blown completely out of proportion. As a Commercial Pilot and Flight Instructor, the child was obviously supervised. And in my opinion, the kid did a great job when compared to other controllers that I've encountered, lol.
I disagree. You probably fail to realize the immense gravity of the nature of this job, that as a matter of principle, this is like a SIN. Simply not tolerable in any case whatsoever, even if there are 1000 supervisors on the child's head. This is not a bar where you let the kid pour beer for fun, this is a fu*king airport control tower.
he's so sweet and i imagine the pilots having like the best moment in their rutinary jobs thinking in their own sons and craving to go home.. they should not suspend the Dad.
If the kid merely repeated what his dad told him to say, and the dad supervised him, and even the pilots were amused...then what's the big fuckin' deal?
Could you spell "overreaction"? The pilots can take a joke, but the FAA can't?
It doesn't matter what the court of public opinion thinks. This kids dad, and the dad's supervisor, were both suspended pending investigation. How do you think this story became public? Hmmmmm......let's see, either a pilot in one of the aircraft or someone in the control tower did not exactly agree with the "cuteness" of what transpired and decided to make it public.
The news media needs to RELAX! Im absolutely certain that the kids father was right there by his side directing him as to what to say and when to say it. If at any moment the kid made an error Im sure the father was right there to immediately override the communication and set things straight. The major news outlets make it sound like the kid was sitting all by himself just doing the air-traffic job completely unsupervised. This story is being completely blown WAY out of proportion!
I see nothing wrong and if I was a passenger on the plane, I won't feel anything. I felt this was a fun from ATC routine to pilots every minute. This was a no harm intended yet SUPERVISED communication...The kid did not direct any traffic pattern.
FAA need to get of thier back, and get a life, there are far more pressing issues like Air traffic congestion etc and not a lil innocent kid incident like this.
they should be fired because this shows that they are not taking their job seriously when they think that there is room for jokes while people are depending on them to get on the ground safely, and no i think we do not need to wait until smt really happens so we then say no children in the ATC room!!!!!!!!
Fortunately the kid wasn't kidding that time. I'm sure the kid will become a excellent controller someday. But what he need to do today's back to his school and complete his edu course
It is nothing to get up about. Parts of the ATC job are very robotic. The Kid was just "parroting a parent" who was at work. Wish he would have taught him/her to use better phraseology though. the .65 doesn't allow much room for CB radio slang.
@djbobbydeese yea but at the same time ive heard many of the controllers i work with put a spin on the good day "over and out". such as peace and see ya, where there was little to no reprocutions. even in the transmision u hear AMX say adios so yea there not always robots
I also agree with jsnwilcher, the media is making it sound like the controller "gave away the mic" well obviously he was telling the kid what to say and making sure it was all done properly.. its no different than training a new hire in Air Traffic Control.. he was watching every move and telling the kid what to say! leave the controller alone!
Interesting story...on one hand it is disturbing to know that a child was allowed to order a few ground control maneuvers at a busy international airport. On the other hand it is a beautiful thing to see a sharp kid perfectly execute these directions under the guidance of a loving professional parent to the obvious pleasure of the pilots. After all, who are we as a people if we cease to retain the ability to personally show and teach our children our life's professions?
I love seeing these people "who know everything about atc" sit there and go on and on about how the kid could have killed everyone and so on and so forth. He was giving departure clearences for planes that were on the runway ready to take off. No climbout instructions, no hold short instructions. And then he switches them over to a departure TRACON. This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion...
I'm sure most are. Inside the tower is not the place for amusement or games. This controller should be fired and anyone who was in a supervisory position and knew this was going on should be fired.
Now then,If the radio signal from the control tower is restricted, I'd be more worried about the interference of news reporters.
That means that anyone with the right equipment , like news reporters ,can intercept this signal .... this is what really jeopardizes flight safety,not a child having an exciting ( and maybe inadequate) controled experience at dads job.
Then there's the what if angle,imagine that an aircraft that he had told to take off,had hit a flight of birds,& landed in the Hudson (it does happen when you least expect it)or worse still crashed into wall street,would you ahh cute thinkers still say this was so "cute" then I wonder! or would you all be baying for blood,and be calling for more training,for controllers,sack the boss,sack everybody,send the father to prison for criminal negligent irresponsibility.what is a kid doing there?
@beachfrontal Dont attack me for this, I do understand where you are comeing from but this was all under controle. The kids dad was right there telling him exactly what to say and aparently must have been paying attention. But I do see what you are saying as well. But hey, im not on ether side, i just heard about this today and read it. Im neutral.
@princekrie Sorry my friend, but my comment was on the video,&refered to some comments on here,no way was it directed to any one specific person, just like you I was just interested to follow up on what I had heard on the news IN SPAIN,even they sensationalised the idea of a 5 year old controlling aircraft at kennedy,no proper explication how the child got there!!! but I know what the American press are like ie FOX CNN etceverything's cute,until it goes wrong,and then the lynching starts
As a pilot myself, I would not be worried for safety's sake at all by this kid making a few radio calls relayed by his father under close supervision. The FAA is just giving their knee jerk reaction because they are afraid of losing the trust of the flying public.
@catfish77x The what if angle!,imagine that an aircraft that had told to take off by this child had hit a flight of birds,& landed in the Hudson (it does happen when you least expect it)or worse still crashed into wall street,would anyone still say this was so "cute" then I wonder! or would we all be baying for blood,and be calling for more training,for controllers,sack the boss,sack the ACAA,send the father to prison for criminal negligent irresponsibility&what's a kid doing there anyway?
@beachfrontal please I am not having a go at anyone,just pointing out that if the worse thing imaginable had happened that day,then the public would be asking what the hell is going on, whats he doing what was his father thinking, etc,and with out a doubt,there would be a huge loss of faith in ATC,that would probably never be recovered,its all suppose suppose,but just suppose! that 3 minutes later something had downed,what would it have looked like in the enquiary,pretty shit poor I'd say.
Hope this isn't some bitching... kids day out, imagine to be able to tell everybody you were directing traffic. His dad was obviously coaching and he did a good job. Adios amigo..
And another thing for all you anti-kid posters, if you listen to other YouTube posts about air traffic controllers, you will find a JFK controller telling a pilot that his jet just overflew his mother-in-laws house and he is going to get an earful from her because of the noise. Did this controller lose his job because of this unprofessional radio exchange? I doubt it. Surf YouTube and you will hear many funny exchanges between pilots and controllers. The kid wasn't doing brain surgery.
I'm a police officer and we have high school kids ride with us. I think it's good because it shows what we do, but we are a target by those who want to harm the police and a kid sitting in a police car could be injured in shootout or high speed pursuit.
Dad was there telling his son what to say. The only issue I have would be if the father lost his concentration on aircraft location and separation and that could cause an incursion. FAA, suspend dad then let him get back to work.
moutain MOLEHILL moutain MOLEHILL moutain MOLEHILL not even a big deal- he will get fired and repeal through the union and get a six month paid vacation over the ordeal not as big a deal as all the pilots coming to work drunk, falling asleep over Hawaii or masturbating while on the internet mountain MOLEHILL mountain MOLEHILL
Yes, I am very intelligent but that's beside the point. You are over reacting.... His dad was right there. And FYI time in the auto shop as a kid spawned an Engineer and Software Developer. Get a clue.
this thread illustrates the resentment today's poorly trained, incompetent, sloppy pilots have for ATCs
'tis notin but resentment for all the reports the ATCs file to out the retards and sheep pilots who go aong with the 'cost saving measures' imposed by airlines on maintenaince that is 'under the table'.
the next time you answer an inquiry forgetting yer dick is not the mic while jacking off to porno on yer laptop remember that
Don't see the problem if he was being supervised by his parent. Heck when I was 12, and my cousin was 10 we were helping my uncle in his auto shop doing all sorts of work. Welding, pulling motors, grinding metal, and tons of other work. It taught us responsibility and kept us out of trouble. We were always supervised and made it to adult hood with all our digits and were none the worse for wear.
You belong in the auto shop if you think nothing was wrong with this. I just hope you remember to put all of the parts back into the cars of the people who trust you.
@chcltsxygrl there is no comparison between heart surgery and a dad saying repeat after me "blue 21 clear for departures" like all the kid did was say wat he was told. the skill of an air traffic controller doesnt come from what he says into the microphone it comes from what he plans prior to the talking thats where the skill is required anyone or "child" can do the talking it just takes an Air Traffic Controller to decided what to say
calm down you bible toting faggots. maybe it was the kids birthday or something.his father obv told him what to say to the pilots. not like he was conducting an "operation" on his own you fools. its a cool thing to do for your son. get a fuckin grip.
Has an air traffic controller ever had to repeat him or herself? These people are extremely professional. The kid wasn't in charge of the operation, but was supervised with the parent ready to step in in a fraction of a second. If anything, the incident would result in refocusing attention in an otherwise too overly-routinized procedure and actually improve performance for all concerned... and could have inspired a kid to strive for a career.
There are more professional ways to break routine. There are other ways to inspire a kid to strive for a career. A fraction of a second is a lot of time in the airline industry. It can mean the difference in life or death.
They deserved what they got too! Now, go to the unemployment office and tell them that you brought your kid to work, made the news, feel totally stupid, and would like to apply for benefits!! Good luck!
It truly pains me to say this. I saw the story again on CNN. The FAA said it would fire the father of the kid and the other air traffic controllers in the tower for not putting a stop to the incident.
This disgusts me. The kid did nothing wrong. Firing the guy for this is absurd.
I hope the kid got an A+ on his homework assignment- you get an A+ for being a retarded fucktard- and if you are a pilot I bet one day we will be commenting on a video here about you- because people like you are hated abndresented by all at their places of employment- I bet someone sets yer ass up boy.
I still have my position. I heard this dude is getting fired. Why do I think that you may actually be him?
I keep my ass covered. Believe that!! Dumbo didn't keep his covered. Oh, well...it's a great time to start a new career. (Sarcasm, since I know you didn't get it...look it up if you don't know what it means)
They will get to it. This got more attention and was clearly "out of line." The public was made aware of this gross negligence so it has to be handled rapidly!!!
I don't think it was a big deal for the father to have his son repeat what he was saying...the pilots didn't seem to mind and the father was there directly supervising and no further action should be taken, BUT this should not be a regular occurrence by any means. Fine your son has a cool memory and hopefully he'll follow in your footsteps and be great at his job, but once is enough and this particular job shouldn't be a "bring your son to work" day so he can help direct air traffic.
wait, we have an example of a kid actually doing a good job adults should be doing
while adults fly right pass the city their supposed to land in and worse,
under-trained, under-paid and over-worked adult pilots of regional airlines, that end up crashing and killing all aboard because they don't know how to pull out of a stall.
neither are good, but you know, i'd rather be this kid and his competent dad behind him, than on a regional jet like with an incompetent adult pilot in an emergency.
so with the dad standing next to the child or around the kid ensuring he didnt say the wrong thing wats gonna go wrong clearly the parent was paying attention and none of the pilots seemed to have a problem with wat was happening just a bunch of up thit administrators with nothing better to do but waste time and money
@keartan and csian: So, let's have a surgeon bring his kid in to work and perform heart or brain surgery on one of your loved ones. Kid is being instructed. I guess it's okay?? Dad is there watching everything. How cute?? Are you kidding me??
Oh please. There is such a thing as blowing things our of proportion. Doing surgery on a patient and being told to repeat words are a little different. If you really think this is news worth talking about, you need to do a bit of travel.
That is all I do is travel. I work in the industry. There is no difference except that one person could die versus a couple of hundred. You don't get it. I don't expect you to. Controllers make mistakes that result in the loss of lives when children aren't around. No need to put a kid in the mix.
you know your comments are synonomous with those of the twelve year olds commenting here too. what does that tell you. find someone to give you a hug buddy
What is wrong with people???? Why is everyone so uptight about this?? Nothing wrong was done, no one is in danger, the instructions were clear and correct and if there was a problem im sure dad would correct. It was great to listen to, and the pilots obviously had no problem and enjoyed it. Let some color into the world people, loosen up. It would be a different story is the kid was allowed to pilot the plane. Even then under strict supervision...i don't see the problem!!
you people have to remember the people in the plane do not have a choice in this, and if they did they would NOT WANT THIS LITTLE CUNT DIRECTING THEM TO LAND
Who the hell let an 11 year old take flying lessons with a certified flying instructor? An eleven year old can't even start learning to drive a car. Oh that's right, the FAA. There's no minimum age to start learning how to fly, so why should there be a minimum age to start learning how to direct air traffic?
Hey shold NOT get fierd. That is like a treat to the kids and the airliners, I mean COME ON yes it was not safe but at least he did it realy well and I bet it begts boring hearing an adult voice all the time.
this kid is going to take the fall for the FAA over the 911 thing
anyway- get over it people, there was nothing wrong with this- that kid probably couldkick your ass at WOW or Modern Warfare.
perhaps the problem with this world is we have kids then send them to school for 8 hours a day for some stranger to watch them and they basically learn nothing
@trojanspaghetti and then we have the real world where these instructions are necessary for the safety of hundreds of people. and then some cocksucker wants to entertain his adhd little fukkin brat ??. i hope you don't have an important job
This kid is aparantly with the ATC Departure whose job is make the aircrafts on ground go to the runway hold off position thats it. ATC departure is not as critical as the ATC Approach or other units within ATC.
Bottom line this kid was not involved in doing anything critical that could have harmed lives and you idiots stop freaking out and those of you freaks who wanted to hang the kid, you better hang your self and do this world a favor...
@stormcatcher56 I don't want a controller who thinks that it is cute to have his kid doing his job guiding my planes. Planes run into other planes on the ground more often than crashes occur.
Yeah fine controller shouldn't have done that, but i am sure the controller in this case was watching over the kid and directing the kid.
And planes run into each other only on the runway and if it is a clear weather with no fog and good visibility then there is no risk in the taxi way. And this kid was not handling take off's and landing which is more crucial as is evident from the video
@Ccolebrooked Hang the idiot who didn't have enough sense to realize that lives are at risk here. If someone allowed a kid to do this, then I would guess it wouldn't be too hard to get a terrorist in air traffic control.
The USA needs to get whatever is up their butts out. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this! He was under the direct supervision of a controller and he was repeating what the controller told him. He did a great job, clear, easy to understand, but probably needs to say it a little quicker. Now if some pilots would learn to speak a little clearer, that'd be very helpful. What do these idiots think, that pilots can't fly without a tower? Shows how little the general public knows about aviation
@744682532 is there any security clearance for air traffic control?? This is nuts!! Not acceptable. I hope everyone in that tower who didn't report it is canned!!!
Seems like ever since 9/11 Americans have turned into a bunch of wackos. Chill out!! My dad used to bring me to work to help out. It's how you learn responsibility. Instead of congratulating the kid for doing an outstanding job, they're ridiculing him and threatening to fire his dad.
Reprimand the dad if you must, but don't fire him. It's not right. He did nothing wrong!
@Pvtjamesryan2 what did your dad do?. sell candy?. newspapers?. or ensure the safety of hundreds of people paying top dollar to not have a brat take care of them?. fire the asshole
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There is nothing cute when the lives of thousands of people are at risk. This could have been a major distraction for a pilot. I wouldn't particularly care to have a child directing traffic anywhere especially in NY. I guess there is no secuiry for Air Traffic Controllers...so anyone can direct traffic. Let's not forget terrorism!!!
It's called learning. It's something that students do under the direct supervision of a qualified teacher. I know a 12 year old who has more hours flying and landing an airplane than you likely have riding in one. By the time he's allowed to solo at age 16, he'll be an exceptional pilot. I wish I would have got started that young.
this kid is awesome
iEskabar 1 year ago
everybody needs to chill he was supervised gosh and he did an awesome job and he did not make anybody crash
abubacarr4ever 1 year ago
Children are beautiful, and are undistorted. When children have good parents, they usually turn out good. His calls to the planes were clear and very competent. I was this clear when I was 11, and I rode in Cessna 172 a few times and was "well aware" and my attention level was perfect. I wanted to become a pilot, but it didn't work out. My parents never had the money back then (about $3000.oo ) or were not smart enough to finance it. A friend of ours was the pilot. He was an amazing guy.
Aliendear 1 year ago
This is why the FAA has lost credibility
Based on your judgment any child can do provide the ATC service as long as they are under the wise supervision of their parents.
Next time they will support doctors bringing children to the surgery room to make supervised little incisions to a patient in the middle of a surgical operation.
Policemen having their kids read the Miranda rights while the handcuff a suspect.
ATC is a serious, professional and highly regulated business
AirTrafficControl1 1 year ago
@AirTrafficControl1 Gosh, telling simple instructions and saying "Adios amigo" it´s very different to a surgery.
Your comment was pathetic.
drcaos 1 year ago
This is why the FAA has lost credibility
Based on your judgment any child can do provide the ATC service as long as they are under the wise supervision of their parents.
Next time they will support doctors bringing children to the surgery room to make supervised little incisions to a patient in the middle of a surgical operation.
Policemen having their kids read the Miranda rights while the handcuff a suspect.
ATC is a serious, professional and highly regulated business
AirTrafficControl1 1 year ago
@AirTrafficControl1 Oh, please, it was nothing like that, as you well know. What harm can come if a highly supervised child simply tells a plane that it is clear for takeoff?
warpedcomedy 1 year ago
Remove every trace of the controller and his supervisor from the FAA - forever.
DarwinsFriend 1 year ago
@DarwinsFriend taking away a fathers job? go fuck yourself
boobieswooo 1 month ago
@boobieswooo As a member of the FAA organization for over fifty years – owning a Repair Station, you’re “fuck yourself” comment means nothing.
Physics are physics and having 240,000 pound aircraft moving around an incredibly complex facility – simultaneously – is an ADULT BUSINESS.
Fire the father and ban him from aviation forever. End of Story.
DarwinsFriend 1 month ago 2
Ye but really. He was giving the most basic of instructions. You must be an extremely tense and paranoid person to get so worked up over this.
keartan 1 year ago
big deal -.- pilots are know what to do in the air... and father just got fired by that idiots...
goblinfing 1 year ago
Who gives a shit! His dad was right there. It's not like his dad went to take a crap and the kid was acting on his own. Lame....
DeathByMullet 1 year ago 3
why is the media making a big deal about this? all the kid was doing was reading word that his father would have said anyway. this is so stupid.
Bob543733465 1 year ago 4
so what it's not like someone died. fuck the government and the damb people. he was basically repeating what his dad said..
southsudanvoice 1 year ago
anyone else not care? i mean the kid was def reading off a screen his parent would have been reading off of calm down everyone
BaseballGod31 1 year ago
sounds like the kid knows his crap wonder if hes taken his mercury shots or drinks the floride water i bet not good job dad looks like we got one that can see
rod1bmf 1 year ago
well nothing is to good for the little prince and princess after all the world owes them everything no matter what the cost,right?
Fockersnextdoor 1 year ago
This incident is blown completely out of proportion. As a Commercial Pilot and Flight Instructor, the child was obviously supervised. And in my opinion, the kid did a great job when compared to other controllers that I've encountered, lol.
Wm226 1 year ago 14
We as pilots know whats really going on. People dont understand or know the system.
efnosmoke 1 year ago 3
umm jfk is not one of the busiest airports in the orld there not even in the 20 the top 3 are 1katl 2kord 3kdfw
IDKanonymous 1 year ago
sorry i replyed to wrong pertson im so stupid lol
IDKanonymous 1 year ago
@Wm226
I disagree. You probably fail to realize the immense gravity of the nature of this job, that as a matter of principle, this is like a SIN. Simply not tolerable in any case whatsoever, even if there are 1000 supervisors on the child's head. This is not a bar where you let the kid pour beer for fun, this is a fu*king airport control tower.
batura1 1 year ago
fucking ass*oles, i undestand why the dumbass did it
to make his kids happy but u can tell they are spoilt! brats!
this air port is one of the busy-est in the world why on earth!
puting 100's of lives at risk
thats one reason why the media is freakin out
Animeprincessmaria 1 year ago
You can swear on the internet, it's not like your mom's gonna read it.
weightedcompanionc 1 year ago 2
Unless you're in the biz Animeprincesswhatever, shut up because you don't know what you're talking about.
People can be such overreacting morons. The kids are well supervised.They're repeating what a skilled ATC op is saying.
My fucking dog could do it. It's not like the kids are doing the plotting or clearance delivery themselves ya dummy.
But alas my higher ups at the FAA will hang this guy to appease the ignorant morons of the world.
Tamaslammer 1 year ago
i understand i don't mean to
'overreact'
but in some cases if the drivers and the control tower messaround then yeah it can be serious- thats what the fuss is about- i think
it was pretty funny, and cute so just chill
Animeprincessmaria 1 year ago
@Animeprincessmaria Uh, the kid just told the planes to take off.
warpedcomedy 1 year ago
he's so sweet and i imagine the pilots having like the best moment in their rutinary jobs thinking in their own sons and craving to go home.. they should not suspend the Dad.
andreapanda 1 year ago 3
If the kid merely repeated what his dad told him to say, and the dad supervised him, and even the pilots were amused...then what's the big fuckin' deal?
Could you spell "overreaction"? The pilots can take a joke, but the FAA can't?
smartamateur 1 year ago
there should be no jokes when people are in the air!
ANTROS19 1 year ago
pilots and air traffic controllers joke around all the time
IDKanonymous 1 year ago
It doesn't matter what the court of public opinion thinks. This kids dad, and the dad's supervisor, were both suspended pending investigation. How do you think this story became public? Hmmmmm......let's see, either a pilot in one of the aircraft or someone in the control tower did not exactly agree with the "cuteness" of what transpired and decided to make it public.
hpygolkyone 1 year ago
The news media needs to RELAX! Im absolutely certain that the kids father was right there by his side directing him as to what to say and when to say it. If at any moment the kid made an error Im sure the father was right there to immediately override the communication and set things straight. The major news outlets make it sound like the kid was sitting all by himself just doing the air-traffic job completely unsupervised. This story is being completely blown WAY out of proportion!
TwoTallGuys 1 year ago
I see nothing wrong and if I was a passenger on the plane, I won't feel anything. I felt this was a fun from ATC routine to pilots every minute. This was a no harm intended yet SUPERVISED communication...The kid did not direct any traffic pattern.
FAA need to get of thier back, and get a life, there are far more pressing issues like Air traffic congestion etc and not a lil innocent kid incident like this.
manny4life2008 1 year ago
they should be fired because this shows that they are not taking their job seriously when they think that there is room for jokes while people are depending on them to get on the ground safely, and no i think we do not need to wait until smt really happens so we then say no children in the ATC room!!!!!!!!
ANTROS19 1 year ago
haha that was great, it wasn't that big a deal
anarchy22x 1 year ago
Gold
sc0ttdav3y 1 year ago
Hey...... well now the child has some REAL material for show and tell.
oceansdoor 1 year ago
Kids should not be allowed in the Air Traffic Tower. If they did that in China the father is now simply executed.
40510110 1 year ago
why shouldnt they be
IDKanonymous 1 year ago
Huma rights in Ameirca is valued.
40510110 1 year ago
Yes, because China is the world leader of human ethics and morals!!
keartan 1 year ago
my favourite one is the adios!
this is the funniest crap ive seen, go figure! how fun though!
fromoxwithlove 1 year ago
And we know American's h8 regulation, so maybe its a taste of things to come lol
tarkineWild 1 year ago
No amount of glossing over this incident will save the father from loosing his job Gone!!!!!!!!!!
tarkineWild 1 year ago
They are going to crucify..the air
controller....
Pretty soon 11 years olds would be
in control of nuclear submarines...lolol
tug794 1 year ago
Fortunately the kid wasn't kidding that time. I'm sure the kid will become a excellent controller someday. But what he need to do today's back to his school and complete his edu course
thsgyvk 1 year ago
It is nothing to get up about. Parts of the ATC job are very robotic. The Kid was just "parroting a parent" who was at work. Wish he would have taught him/her to use better phraseology though. the .65 doesn't allow much room for CB radio slang.
djbobbydeese 1 year ago
@djbobbydeese yea but at the same time ive heard many of the controllers i work with put a spin on the good day "over and out". such as peace and see ya, where there was little to no reprocutions. even in the transmision u hear AMX say adios so yea there not always robots
jsnwilcher 1 year ago
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djbobbydeese 1 year ago
Adios amigo FTW.
600RR4Life 1 year ago 2
what is going on here ?
600RR4Life 1 year ago
I also agree with jsnwilcher, the media is making it sound like the controller "gave away the mic" well obviously he was telling the kid what to say and making sure it was all done properly.. its no different than training a new hire in Air Traffic Control.. he was watching every move and telling the kid what to say! leave the controller alone!
mk882004 1 year ago
Exactly, and he did better than a few controllers I have dealt with.
Salukipilot4590 1 year ago 3
Interesting story...on one hand it is disturbing to know that a child was allowed to order a few ground control maneuvers at a busy international airport. On the other hand it is a beautiful thing to see a sharp kid perfectly execute these directions under the guidance of a loving professional parent to the obvious pleasure of the pilots. After all, who are we as a people if we cease to retain the ability to personally show and teach our children our life's professions?
ubermk3 1 year ago 2
I agree with you jsnwilcher
pilotRAFE 1 year ago
I love seeing these people "who know everything about atc" sit there and go on and on about how the kid could have killed everyone and so on and so forth. He was giving departure clearences for planes that were on the runway ready to take off. No climbout instructions, no hold short instructions. And then he switches them over to a departure TRACON. This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion...
jsnwilcher 1 year ago 3
@jsnwilcher Agreed, I'm a tower controller and know the regulations applying to who is allowed to transmit to aircraft.
The kid was giving basic instructions, clearly and expeditiously with the rated controller right there for the complex and critical stuff.
THE KID WAS NOT SEQUENCING OR MAKING DECISIONS.
LtOlson 1 year ago 11
@jsnwilcher
Ok, tell me. Look at it from the perspective of these passengers who were on that plane? How would you react to this?
GojiJuicePower 1 year ago
Air traffic controllers and Pilots are the most professional people I have met , and they were aware of the situation all the time.
It is clear that the father is with the kid all the time, telling him what to say, and the pilots are aware of this.
pilotRAFE 1 year ago
I agree...plain as the pure driven snow.nice post.
BROWNSAREAWFUL 1 year ago
I'm sure most are. Inside the tower is not the place for amusement or games. This controller should be fired and anyone who was in a supervisory position and knew this was going on should be fired.
GOODY61 1 year ago
Now then,If the radio signal from the control tower is restricted, I'd be more worried about the interference of news reporters.
That means that anyone with the right equipment , like news reporters ,can intercept this signal .... this is what really jeopardizes flight safety,not a child having an exciting ( and maybe inadequate) controled experience at dads job.
pilotRAFE 1 year ago
That kid is goona be a good traffic handler :D way to go kid.
punckhole 1 year ago
sounds like some of the pilots enjoyed this xD
princekrie 1 year ago
Then there's the what if angle,imagine that an aircraft that he had told to take off,had hit a flight of birds,& landed in the Hudson (it does happen when you least expect it)or worse still crashed into wall street,would you ahh cute thinkers still say this was so "cute" then I wonder! or would you all be baying for blood,and be calling for more training,for controllers,sack the boss,sack everybody,send the father to prison for criminal negligent irresponsibility.what is a kid doing there?
beachfrontal 1 year ago
@beachfrontal Dont attack me for this, I do understand where you are comeing from but this was all under controle. The kids dad was right there telling him exactly what to say and aparently must have been paying attention. But I do see what you are saying as well. But hey, im not on ether side, i just heard about this today and read it. Im neutral.
princekrie 1 year ago
@princekrie Sorry my friend, but my comment was on the video,&refered to some comments on here,no way was it directed to any one specific person, just like you I was just interested to follow up on what I had heard on the news IN SPAIN,even they sensationalised the idea of a 5 year old controlling aircraft at kennedy,no proper explication how the child got there!!! but I know what the American press are like ie FOX CNN etceverything's cute,until it goes wrong,and then the lynching starts
beachfrontal 1 year ago
COOL I WISH I HAD THIS JOB!
fugitive011 1 year ago
As a pilot myself, I would not be worried for safety's sake at all by this kid making a few radio calls relayed by his father under close supervision. The FAA is just giving their knee jerk reaction because they are afraid of losing the trust of the flying public.
catfish77x 1 year ago 2
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@catfish77x The what if angle!,imagine that an aircraft that had told to take off by this child had hit a flight of birds,& landed in the Hudson (it does happen when you least expect it)or worse still crashed into wall street,would anyone still say this was so "cute" then I wonder! or would we all be baying for blood,and be calling for more training,for controllers,sack the boss,sack the ACAA,send the father to prison for criminal negligent irresponsibility&what's a kid doing there anyway?
beachfrontal 1 year ago
@beachfrontal please I am not having a go at anyone,just pointing out that if the worse thing imaginable had happened that day,then the public would be asking what the hell is going on, whats he doing what was his father thinking, etc,and with out a doubt,there would be a huge loss of faith in ATC,that would probably never be recovered,its all suppose suppose,but just suppose! that 3 minutes later something had downed,what would it have looked like in the enquiary,pretty shit poor I'd say.
beachfrontal 1 year ago
That was so cute!
If the Kid was by himself in the TWR, ok, even I'd be pissed off. But his dad (presumably) is there, also doing the important things.
britanniaairlines12 1 year ago
Dude, the kid was just giving departure clearances, not the hold short calls. All he was saying is you're good to go.
It'd be nice if the mainstream media would leave this guy alone.
revazion 1 year ago
Talk about people taking life very seriously. Lighten up!
blademanx 1 year ago
Hope this isn't some bitching... kids day out, imagine to be able to tell everybody you were directing traffic. His dad was obviously coaching and he did a good job. Adios amigo..
12GaugeLosAngeles 1 year ago
I think the tower was just "short staffed" that day
djbobbydeese 1 year ago
And another thing for all you anti-kid posters, if you listen to other YouTube posts about air traffic controllers, you will find a JFK controller telling a pilot that his jet just overflew his mother-in-laws house and he is going to get an earful from her because of the noise. Did this controller lose his job because of this unprofessional radio exchange? I doubt it. Surf YouTube and you will hear many funny exchanges between pilots and controllers. The kid wasn't doing brain surgery.
diggerHR 1 year ago
Just think that its funny and be done with it.
JuanJohnSmith 1 year ago
So negative, y cant you see that nothing bad happend and have a laph about it.
JuanJohnSmith 1 year ago
It's so sad that the FAA is going to ruin this controllers life becasue he was showing his kid what he did at work.
NO ONE was hurt! (me being clinical now) Do you think the press and FAA are going over the board on this one?
He FAA leave that kid alone!
iwal1645 1 year ago
I'm a police officer and we have high school kids ride with us. I think it's good because it shows what we do, but we are a target by those who want to harm the police and a kid sitting in a police car could be injured in shootout or high speed pursuit.
Dad was there telling his son what to say. The only issue I have would be if the father lost his concentration on aircraft location and separation and that could cause an incursion. FAA, suspend dad then let him get back to work.
diggerHR 1 year ago
DAMN!
If they had more naked body-scanners at that airport this COULD have been avoided.
midevalcheese 1 year ago
My prayers for te FAA if this is the issue they decide to focus on.
I wonder if they have removed that peice of wing that fell off an airliner that landed in that dude's yard a few weeks ago ?
Kids should be allowed to participate and watch their parents at work often.
BAFRIENDINC2 1 year ago
i agree 100%.
i'm appalled at some of the reactions here. our society HAS gone to shit!
i'm also amazed that some here think that this kid was on his own. just making decisions and gettin things done.lmao
NATEandtheMONKEY 1 year ago
It may very well turn into an
"adios amigos" But I doubt it.
djbobbydeese 1 year ago
REPOTAG 1 year ago
As long as the kid was listening to his father hes only repeating what his father was saying..
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djbobbydeese 1 year ago
Yes, I am very intelligent but that's beside the point. You are over reacting.... His dad was right there. And FYI time in the auto shop as a kid spawned an Engineer and Software Developer. Get a clue.
ShadeRage2007 1 year ago
this thread illustrates the resentment today's poorly trained, incompetent, sloppy pilots have for ATCs
'tis notin but resentment for all the reports the ATCs file to out the retards and sheep pilots who go aong with the 'cost saving measures' imposed by airlines on maintenaince that is 'under the table'.
the next time you answer an inquiry forgetting yer dick is not the mic while jacking off to porno on yer laptop remember that
trojanspaghetti 1 year ago
What the FUCK are they thinking? A toy airport with toy airplanes?.. There are thousands of lives at stake there..
KILL THE KID
7universes 1 year ago
Don't see the problem if he was being supervised by his parent. Heck when I was 12, and my cousin was 10 we were helping my uncle in his auto shop doing all sorts of work. Welding, pulling motors, grinding metal, and tons of other work. It taught us responsibility and kept us out of trouble. We were always supervised and made it to adult hood with all our digits and were none the worse for wear.
ShadeRage2007 1 year ago
You belong in the auto shop if you think nothing was wrong with this. I just hope you remember to put all of the parts back into the cars of the people who trust you.
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
@chcltsxygrl there is no comparison between heart surgery and a dad saying repeat after me "blue 21 clear for departures" like all the kid did was say wat he was told. the skill of an air traffic controller doesnt come from what he says into the microphone it comes from what he plans prior to the talking thats where the skill is required anyone or "child" can do the talking it just takes an Air Traffic Controller to decided what to say
cscian 1 year ago
Moronic negligence....wow......kid's are better seen and not "heard:". lol...
Ears14U 1 year ago
Now imagine a physician bringing his son to work on the day of your heart operation...lol
chingon711 1 year ago
Sounds like he did a good job
optimumperformance 1 year ago
So What it was Take Your Child to Work Day.
They should do that in the House and Senate.
ryen1992 1 year ago
calm down you bible toting faggots. maybe it was the kids birthday or something.his father obv told him what to say to the pilots. not like he was conducting an "operation" on his own you fools. its a cool thing to do for your son. get a fuckin grip.
oldchilltortoise 1 year ago
Has an air traffic controller ever had to repeat him or herself? These people are extremely professional. The kid wasn't in charge of the operation, but was supervised with the parent ready to step in in a fraction of a second. If anything, the incident would result in refocusing attention in an otherwise too overly-routinized procedure and actually improve performance for all concerned... and could have inspired a kid to strive for a career.
mapmanic 1 year ago
There are more professional ways to break routine. There are other ways to inspire a kid to strive for a career. A fraction of a second is a lot of time in the airline industry. It can mean the difference in life or death.
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
@chcltsxygrl
only if you suck big time- howlong were yer buddys jacking off to porno on their laptops when they missed their destination anyway ?
trojanspaghetti 1 year ago
They deserved what they got too! Now, go to the unemployment office and tell them that you brought your kid to work, made the news, feel totally stupid, and would like to apply for benefits!! Good luck!
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
It truly pains me to say this. I saw the story again on CNN. The FAA said it would fire the father of the kid and the other air traffic controllers in the tower for not putting a stop to the incident.
This disgusts me. The kid did nothing wrong. Firing the guy for this is absurd.
Pvtjamesryan2 1 year ago 2
people have become so fucked
NATEandtheMONKEY 1 year ago
...and you are number one in that category!! Your vocabulary is so limited.
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
@chcltsxygrl
I hope the kid got an A+ on his homework assignment- you get an A+ for being a retarded fucktard- and if you are a pilot I bet one day we will be commenting on a video here about you- because people like you are hated abndresented by all at their places of employment- I bet someone sets yer ass up boy.
trojanspaghetti 1 year ago
I still have my position. I heard this dude is getting fired. Why do I think that you may actually be him?
I keep my ass covered. Believe that!! Dumbo didn't keep his covered. Oh, well...it's a great time to start a new career. (Sarcasm, since I know you didn't get it...look it up if you don't know what it means)
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
you keep yer ass covered ?
sounds like a confession in there somewhere
trojanspaghetti 1 year ago
good one champ!
NATEandtheMONKEY 1 year ago
I am certain that the FAA has more internal serious issues to deal with and flaws for which they should be terminated for.
trojanspaghetti 1 year ago
They will get to it. This got more attention and was clearly "out of line." The public was made aware of this gross negligence so it has to be handled rapidly!!!
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
Daddy should have thought about this before he made such a stupid decision.
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
I don't think it was a big deal for the father to have his son repeat what he was saying...the pilots didn't seem to mind and the father was there directly supervising and no further action should be taken, BUT this should not be a regular occurrence by any means. Fine your son has a cool memory and hopefully he'll follow in your footsteps and be great at his job, but once is enough and this particular job shouldn't be a "bring your son to work" day so he can help direct air traffic.
MaladaptiveCatalyst 1 year ago
It sounds cute but this isnt a job for a kid.... paper route yes, telling planes to take off and land.. not so much. Parenting FAIL!
digitalbots 1 year ago 2
I think it's funny as hell. The kid was more understandable then the adults as he was speaking slower.
jvolstad 1 year ago
Don't tell that to all the Fox News reporters , they are running with it ...I think it was kinda cute ..
sjcpal 1 year ago
haha i love the video they use to supplement the audio.
muuraa1 1 year ago
Did a plane crash?
No.
Did a kid have fun?
Yep.
End story.
mer191 1 year ago 2
wait, we have an example of a kid actually doing a good job adults should be doing
while adults fly right pass the city their supposed to land in and worse,
under-trained, under-paid and over-worked adult pilots of regional airlines, that end up crashing and killing all aboard because they don't know how to pull out of a stall.
neither are good, but you know, i'd rather be this kid and his competent dad behind him, than on a regional jet like with an incompetent adult pilot in an emergency.
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
God damn these Random childs
andycats 1 year ago
Dont make a fucking big deal the father of this kid was telling the kid to repeat what he was saying.
Obviously the pilot knows what the heck he was doing even if the pilot didnt took any instructions from the air traffic controller.
A mistake that didnt cause the lives of anyone besides i am pretty sure some one told him he cant do that again without getting fired.
You guys are idiots the father didnt let anything bad happened. Oh PLEASEEEE this shit ain't news go bother some one else.
AlvaroAndfriends 1 year ago
so with the dad standing next to the child or around the kid ensuring he didnt say the wrong thing wats gonna go wrong clearly the parent was paying attention and none of the pilots seemed to have a problem with wat was happening just a bunch of up thit administrators with nothing better to do but waste time and money
cscian 1 year ago 3
@keartan and csian: So, let's have a surgeon bring his kid in to work and perform heart or brain surgery on one of your loved ones. Kid is being instructed. I guess it's okay?? Dad is there watching everything. How cute?? Are you kidding me??
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
Oh please. There is such a thing as blowing things our of proportion. Doing surgery on a patient and being told to repeat words are a little different. If you really think this is news worth talking about, you need to do a bit of travel.
keartan 1 year ago
That is all I do is travel. I work in the industry. There is no difference except that one person could die versus a couple of hundred. You don't get it. I don't expect you to. Controllers make mistakes that result in the loss of lives when children aren't around. No need to put a kid in the mix.
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
you know your comments are synonomous with those of the twelve year olds commenting here too. what does that tell you. find someone to give you a hug buddy
NATEandtheMONKEY 1 year ago
your a argumentative bitchy deuche bag buddy. do humanity a favour and go ahead and put the gun in your mouth already.
NATEandtheMONKEY 1 year ago
(you're) :)
NATEandtheMONKEY 1 year ago
What is wrong with people???? Why is everyone so uptight about this?? Nothing wrong was done, no one is in danger, the instructions were clear and correct and if there was a problem im sure dad would correct. It was great to listen to, and the pilots obviously had no problem and enjoyed it. Let some color into the world people, loosen up. It would be a different story is the kid was allowed to pilot the plane. Even then under strict supervision...i don't see the problem!!
keartan 1 year ago 3
you people have to remember the people in the plane do not have a choice in this, and if they did they would NOT WANT THIS LITTLE CUNT DIRECTING THEM TO LAND
superfuzz 1 year ago
What's the big fucking deal!?
Dad: Son, say jet blue 171 clear for takeoff.
Son: YAY!...jet blue 171 clear for takeoff.
That's it...jeesh.
Vladimir0538 1 year ago 9
Who the hell let an 11 year old take flying lessons with a certified flying instructor? An eleven year old can't even start learning to drive a car. Oh that's right, the FAA. There's no minimum age to start learning how to fly, so why should there be a minimum age to start learning how to direct air traffic?
744682532 1 year ago 5
sorry but you wrong a eleven year old could drive car lol i did .
600RR4Life 1 year ago
Hey shold NOT get fierd. That is like a treat to the kids and the airliners, I mean COME ON yes it was not safe but at least he did it realy well and I bet it begts boring hearing an adult voice all the time.
JuanJohnSmith 1 year ago
@JuanJohnSmith would it be a treat if he killed hundreds of people?.
superfuzz 1 year ago
Do you think the father would let that happen, it souds like he had confidens that he would not mess up.
JuanJohnSmith 1 year ago
this kid is going to take the fall for the FAA over the 911 thing
anyway- get over it people, there was nothing wrong with this- that kid probably couldkick your ass at WOW or Modern Warfare.
perhaps the problem with this world is we have kids then send them to school for 8 hours a day for some stranger to watch them and they basically learn nothing
trojanspaghetti 1 year ago
@trojanspaghetti and then we have the real world where these instructions are necessary for the safety of hundreds of people. and then some cocksucker wants to entertain his adhd little fukkin brat ??. i hope you don't have an important job
superfuzz 1 year ago
i train killer whales and bring my kids and their friends to work and let them stick their heads in the whale's mouths
trojanspaghetti 1 year ago
the kids probably not directing traffic. hes probably just repeating the commands from the actual controller.
GeminiAzules 1 year ago
@GeminiAzules and confusing the fukk out of all the pilots who have to listen to it. there are laws about this stuff for a reason
superfuzz 1 year ago
Did you listen to the audio? None of the pilots sounded confused.
GeminiAzules 1 year ago
This kid is aparantly with the ATC Departure whose job is make the aircrafts on ground go to the runway hold off position thats it. ATC departure is not as critical as the ATC Approach or other units within ATC.
Bottom line this kid was not involved in doing anything critical that could have harmed lives and you idiots stop freaking out and those of you freaks who wanted to hang the kid, you better hang your self and do this world a favor...
stormcatcher56 1 year ago
@stormcatcher56 I don't want a controller who thinks that it is cute to have his kid doing his job guiding my planes. Planes run into other planes on the ground more often than crashes occur.
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
Yeah fine controller shouldn't have done that, but i am sure the controller in this case was watching over the kid and directing the kid.
And planes run into each other only on the runway and if it is a clear weather with no fog and good visibility then there is no risk in the taxi way. And this kid was not handling take off's and landing which is more crucial as is evident from the video
stormcatcher56 1 year ago 2
@stormcatcher56 It;s not about the kid. It's about the Dad who obviously has very bad judgement. He will be canned. For sure!!
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
Sure no doubt the dad did a mistake, but i hate the pussy's who wrote "Hang the kid"
stormcatcher56 1 year ago
lol someone's going to jail
yuvic007 1 year ago
@yuvic007 I hope so. Someone is getting fired too! Dumbo just lost his mortgage and suv payment.
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
HANG HIM! HANG THE CHILD!
Ccolebrooked 1 year ago
@Ccolebrooked Hang the idiot who didn't have enough sense to realize that lives are at risk here. If someone allowed a kid to do this, then I would guess it wouldn't be too hard to get a terrorist in air traffic control.
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
The USA needs to get whatever is up their butts out. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this! He was under the direct supervision of a controller and he was repeating what the controller told him. He did a great job, clear, easy to understand, but probably needs to say it a little quicker. Now if some pilots would learn to speak a little clearer, that'd be very helpful. What do these idiots think, that pilots can't fly without a tower? Shows how little the general public knows about aviation
744682532 1 year ago 5
@744682532 is there any security clearance for air traffic control?? This is nuts!! Not acceptable. I hope everyone in that tower who didn't report it is canned!!!
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
@744682532 So is it okay for me to go in and direct traffic because I am with a controller. I have no experience. Lives are at risk. PERIOD.
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
@744682532
Tell me about it. Huge over-reaction!!!
Seems like ever since 9/11 Americans have turned into a bunch of wackos. Chill out!! My dad used to bring me to work to help out. It's how you learn responsibility. Instead of congratulating the kid for doing an outstanding job, they're ridiculing him and threatening to fire his dad.
Reprimand the dad if you must, but don't fire him. It's not right. He did nothing wrong!
Pvtjamesryan2 1 year ago
@Pvtjamesryan2 If a pilot had his kid in the flight deck (cockpit), he would be fired. No questions asked.
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
@chcltsxygrl
you don't know the difference between a flight deck and a cockpit- do you just make this shit up as you go along ?
trojanspaghetti 1 year ago
@trojanspaghetti Little birch. I am a pilot.
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
@trojanspaghetti substitue the r in birch for the first letter of your username.
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
@chcltsxygrl
That's ridiculous and you know it!!!
No one should be fired for bringing their kid to work.
God, bring Bill Clinton back. You people have lost your minds. George Bush has traumatized your minds so much that you're afraid of your own shadow.
Pvtjamesryan2 1 year ago
@Pvtjamesryan2 what did your dad do?. sell candy?. newspapers?. or ensure the safety of hundreds of people paying top dollar to not have a brat take care of them?. fire the asshole
superfuzz 1 year ago
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There is nothing cute when the lives of thousands of people are at risk. This could have been a major distraction for a pilot. I wouldn't particularly care to have a child directing traffic anywhere especially in NY. I guess there is no secuiry for Air Traffic Controllers...so anyone can direct traffic. Let's not forget terrorism!!!
chcltsxygrl 1 year ago
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What the FUCK are they thinking? A toy airport with toy airplanes.. There thousands of lives are stake there..
KILL THE KID
7universes 1 year ago
It's called learning. It's something that students do under the direct supervision of a qualified teacher. I know a 12 year old who has more hours flying and landing an airplane than you likely have riding in one. By the time he's allowed to solo at age 16, he'll be an exceptional pilot. I wish I would have got started that young.
744682532 1 year ago
as a father of a baby gurl i think this is kind of cute.
adios amigo.
jokerbookshop 1 year ago
That's sooo cute!!!!! =)
Pvtjamesryan2 1 year ago 3