i wouldn't ever have wls, but it's far from easy. people who get wls are committing to a lifestyle for the rest of their lives...the weight loss is probably the only easy part about it, because the maintenance of it all is a lot of hard work. and i think they have to think A LOT about what's going into their bodies.that being said, i agree with your view on diets being crap. i think the best way is to just eat what you want, but control the portions and just exercise.
You had me there until you said the only hard way is doing losing it on your own. Speaking whose actually had surgery ( lap-band ) It is in no-way the easy way I struggle just like anyone else. I can't eat certain foods anymore, but I've gotten used to that. I just love how people comment on something they no nothing about. Oh, and no I don't have the same feelings I struggled with. Those are all gone. I'm feeling great. Until, you've been there, you have no room to judge.
from what ive read you can have serious malnutrition from wls. if you are literally dying and dont have time left in your life to calorie count and what not, then by all means save yourself and get the surgery. However, it is the easy way if you actually believe that you cant do it on your own. You can. Lots of people have lost hundreds of pounds on their own. It can be done. Weight loss surgery should only be to prevent impending death in my opinion
agreed. as someone who has known the despair of friends who have turned to the surgery (1) its FAR from easy and (2) this is the reason there is a rift between weight losers who do it "the hard way" and those who have surgery. there seems to be this misconception that you have surgery and you lose weight and thats it. couldnt be farther from the truth! it would behoove everyone in every case to do some research before forming opinions and speaking about something you have no clue about.
Also, I've read news stories about some of the ways the UK is handling obesity (for example, removing fat children from their homes), which make me suspicious of any suggestion that the UK is doing a better job on this issue.
FYI, to qualify for WLS (at least in the US) you have to meet criteria for medical necessity. You make this odd caveat at the end about people who are going to die from their weight: Well, you *have* to be at that point to get surgery. Misinformation galore...
There's a lot of misinformation in this video, ranging from the mindset of someone who gets WLS, to the ease of getting the surgery in the US, to why people get surgery - even to the response of Americans to WLS (ever heard of Star Jones?) Geez, girl. It's kind of disgusting.
Lauren, i have a question 4 u???? with all the drama this week and comments from both sides have you changed your mind about what you said or do you still stand by what you said in this video?
i hate when people say "this is my opinion so dont be offended." thats a cowards way out. If someone utters something negative, the only intent they have in their heart is to hurt someone else. I dont understand why you would want to hurt people. Please be mindful of your words. you cannot take back what you say and you have no control of what someone may have heard in your statement. Personally I think you wanted to cause trouble to get more views. It's nothing new.
HOW CAN DOCTORS CAN MAKE AN AD like dat? how can they make fun of people? ....fat people are people, right? Aren't doctor sworn to help people? sorry... i might get a little political here, but its much needed to be said. Doctors are not being the elite of our society because they being good people... no no no. Its because they the one BANKING. The worst part, they banking on our money. DOCTOR=EVIL. Maybe one exception ... Dr. House, and he ain't even real.
the hard way! lol! yes, i'm getting a piggy back. i guess just like my uncle the heart patients who takes blood thinners, i guess like my 4 yr old asthmatic son who takes breathing treatments, i guess just like my grandmother who has dementia and takes aricept. we are all doing it the easy way! yeah for us!
wow, strong message..I'm not for it or against it.. but I know I can lose the weight myself..if i can lose 50 lbs I can lose 100 lbs..it just depends on the person! everyone is entitled to thier opionions and beliefs. great vid!
if it was so easy as u say and all this about get ur mind right u need to pratice what u preach and lose ur own weight and yeah i deff disagree with you--maybe wls isnt for u but who are u to say that it isnt for anyone--kthanks!
I am losing weight! I have lost 57lbs since July and I am still going strong! My start weight was 315 lbs and I don't think that I needed surgery at that weight! I am now 257lbs and I can't wait to get to my goal.
Losing weight the natural way and through surgery are equally as hard as they both require you to change and maintain your eating habits. But it seems more *sane* and economical to just eat like you have a medically altered stomach. Save yourself from going under the knife. Eat smaller portions and drink lots of water. At least you know you won't die if you slip up and binge.
we accept it so easily because we are soooooo sperficial and its digusting, but we always want to put the image out that we are perfect when of course we are not. Especially here in California though.
I do respect the views of tothers. However, I have to add thatI got myself into this body too...and I am getting myself out of it just like you( and all others losing weight)...just in a different way. With this surgery I am doing my part and if I didn't it just wouldn't work out in the long run. This is a help ,but it's not magic....and from my experience definitely not easy.
Lauren, I think you are a very intellegant woman, and have alot of fire in you. However, I can't say that I agree with your response this week. You seemed very matter of fact and uncaring in your response this week.
There is a place for WLS if needed. And there is a place where it is not necessary. But, we must respect other's for their decisions that they have made for THEIR lives. Not EVERYONE can get up for a walk, that was NOT true. I don't agree with the "piggy back" comment either...
I don't think I would call it "piggy backing" I think I would say it's more like getting a little push. Weight loss surgery is NOT an easy decision to make. It's scary. It's confusing. It's life changing. I know, I was almost there. My hopes is that before the decision for someone to do something so drastic to their lives that they give it everything they have inside of them to do it themselves. If you can honesty say to yourself that you have... and you are at a point where the weight is...
effecting aspects of your life that are life altering, then reasearch it with causion and an open mind. I have had alot of emotionaly charged discussions about this recently, and I stand by my first video. It is not for me, but we can't pass judgement on people who do. I also wish that the personal attacks on both sides would stop. This is NOT personal, but individual opinions, and should be treated as such. I know I got off on a tangum, and I am sorry but lets just all agree to disagree. ~Amber
I have had WLS. That being said, there is nobody giving me a piggyback up the mountain. I have to make good choices about what I eat every meal of every day and I am the one working my a** off at the gym 5 times a week. If I don't do the right things and change my mindset, the scale won't move. The surgery isn't magic. You're entitled to have your opinion and I'm not really even seeking to change it, but please understand that success doesn't happen without work, even with surgery.
I did. OVER and OVER and OVER again. I would never have chosen to have this surgery if I could've lost this weight on my own... If you'd like to feel superior about that and tell me I'm weak for not doing it 100% your way - hey, whatever makes you feel better. This surgery gave me my life back in EVERY sense of the word. P.S., when I say I tried, I was counting last night and I dieted for 25 of the 32 years I've been on this Earth without "lasting" success. Is 25 years enough failure?
I think that a lot of people that get the surgery have usually been trying to lose weight all of their lives.
I, personally, don't care who gets surgery... if they put the weight back on due to not changing their lifestyle, thats their own fault. Other than that, I really don't see an "easy way out" because I personally would never be able to have a surgery no matter how bad I wanted it! I would be terrified, lol
Just wanted to get involved in this awesome discussion!
woweee.. between these vids and Twitter, its insane!!
I dont understand why all the drama is going on. lol all of u guys have stated very clearly that these are your opinions and that you support decisions no matter what.
i just don't get why everyone is in such a tizzy!
whatever. lol I enjoyed this video..opinions and all!
I understand that WLS costs insurance companies money but so does diabetes, sleep apnea, hypertension, high cholesterol and all the other diseases that go along with obesity. Sometimes diet and exercise alone will not shed the weight quickly enough for a person who is overweight with severe medical problems. If you need cardiac bypass surgery and you weigh 400 pounds, diet and exercise will not get you down to 200 quickly enough for you to have the life saving surgery you need.
You do have some good points. I agree that you do have to change your mindset to lose weight with any method you choose. I am currently undergoing pre-op testing for the lap band and I can assure you that it is not an easy way out. It is simply a tool to help a morbidly obese person lose a large amount of weight relatively quickly. It has to be taken seriously and there are ways to defeat it if you haven't set your mind right. My obesity is life threatening and I need treatment.
after reading these comments i think people are missing the point.
it doesnt matter whether you believe in wls or not. truly.
because of the way the week started, we hoped for thoughtful, informed opinions and that is not what we got. so be it.
we subbed to this channel because we all want to get healthy, we all believe in eating correctly and exercise. we are all working towards the same goal, we just have different tools getting there.
Thank you so much for this comment. I get the feeling that you really dislike me, and so be it.
I think everyone has been missing the point.
It would be nice if someone with a voice in the WLS community (like yours) made it clear that just because someone doesn't or won't recommend WLS doesn't mean they're un-supportive or unloving to those who've had it.
It seems to me that several WLS patients here just want to be angry at someone, which I find really sad and wrong.
You are wrong, I dont dislike you. I dont know you.
I have just been watching you every week since this channel started.
I was just disappointed that you didnt take the time to look into it a little more. You did a book review last week... you could have googled some facts up this week.
Its just hard for me to understand how a person forms an opinion without knowing something about the subject. but thats just me.
I support and am supported by people who do not recommend wls... that is not the issue here, at least not for me.
I feel responsible because I shared mondays video with my community and asked them to give their thoughts.
I feel that they opened themselves up and shared themselves and then got slammed dunked by the most ignorant comments I have ever seen one overweight person can give another.
Then to top it off... to have you guys who are leaders in your communities show such contempt... at least thats my take... by not even taking the time to learn something about it before speaking...
your actions and your words matter.
they carry weight in your community.
you can disagree with wls. thats absolutely fine. you are entitled.
I dont care if anyone on the planet ever agreed with it.
It saved my life.
I no longer have diabetes. I no longer have sleep apnea or GERD. And in May I will find out if the exercise and the "diet" that I have been following for the last 8 months has reversed any of the damage that I had in my heart.
WLS saved my life...so I dont and cant care whether people recommend it or not.
All I know, is that people who I love and care about, took the time to respond to a video made by someone they had no clue about for me.
I am responsible. I hurt for them. I hate that they shed their tears in front of people who have no clue and do not care about anything other than being right.
And by this I mean the viewers...I am not happy with many comments made by either community ...but I exposed them to this. Thats my fault.
Can you take a step back and see that you admitted in the start of your video that you did very little research on the topic. before you posted your opinion, how fair is that? you make blanket statements on a stereotype of people who have the surgery. (ones that dont do the right thing post op) FOR THE RECORD, NONE of my videos were aim'd at you, or anyone from this channel. They were a reply to another video posted as a reply to Al's post. ok?
I think the video is telling the truth, why nobody calls it what it is, lazy weight loss, and we cheer people on who are putting there life in danger...right on sister for telling the truth
I appreciate your reasonableness and I think keeping a level head in these matters is definitely key, yet not always easy to do under the circumstances, especially when people are very passionate about their own opinions.
I think a person can voice an opinion just try to be as considerate and tactful as possible.
i think he did more than just remain neutral...he acknowledged that he doesnt have all the answers and he refrained from condemning anyone who wasnt doing things his way.
i expected what shanti said because she is very opinionated and never afraid to express her thoughts. while i dont always agree with her, i respect the fact that she does research on things before she starts talking. i can respect a well-informed opinion, not spouting off without having read a damn thing. my bias, i guess.
yes, i understand that. i was saying that i expected what shanti said and because i am familiar with her videos and know that she is the type that does research before she speaks, i didnt have a problem with hers (although i disagree). this video, however, was just slightly ridiculously misinformed and came off like the blatherings of someone who needs to take a moment and read a book. i have a problem with "opinions" based on nothing. she's free to have it, and im free to think its crap.
I really enjoy your videos and I find your channel inspiring.I think the problem here is
when you are involved in a weight loss support channel, it should be exactly that,support, no matter what road a person chooses to lose weight. I think you shed a lot of negative light on WLS and did not balance it out with the positives.Your personal opinions should stay with your own personal channels and on this channel give the support that is expected.
I think this video is so stupid and the person who is talking is not a professional so I don't listen to anything she is saying less just remember that WLS is a tool if you don't work it it would not work at the end.....sorry but that is my opinion.....
My comment was in reference to the specific videos slamming wls for the morbidly obese. For me that does not constitute "bits of info that they have found to work in their lives..." I applaud anyone with success with any behavior change. What I can't understand is how you can call slamming wls as "peoples life experiences and knowledge." I haven't viewed any of that here this week. I haven't found any support offered just judgement of others hidden as "personal opinions."
I think my video response to this video pretty much answers that question as well as I am able. The WLS community may feel slammed, but at the same time, they're telling us our diet and exercise is going to be effective, which is just as offensive, really.
Not sure who said diet and exercise wasn't going to work. IT DOES WORK for some! It's what WE are doing NOW with the help of this intervention. FOR SOME the imbalance of hormones, metabolism, ghrelin, lifelong co-morbidities, & year of unsuccessful lifestyle changes warrants intervention. Truly, I hope u ARE successful. Just be open 2 the possibility that IF, 10 years from now, you are still struggling there are other options out there and you probably wouldn't want to be judged for them.
No need to call them a joke as a whole then if you don't agree with a few things they have said... they have not been slamming WLS, rather telling that they don't agree with it and their opinion.. Not all the time when people have opposing views and voice them does it mean they are "slamming" it.. They are encouraging them though, they are still encouraging them to continue their weight loss goal in what they think is a healthy way, not just saying WLS is bad. I just should make a video response
In my opinion this channel is a joke, spewing false information based on limited and biased opinions to viewers seeking knowledge not hype. For accurate information on all diets, healthy behaviors, weight loss surgery, and all available options, viewers should search medical articles or contact their family physician or nutritionist. Research all your options, the data, and most importantly do whatever it takes to spend your life healthy, not just wishing to be!
Most are not able to see a doctor/nutritionist/family physician... They are voicing what has and is working for them.. what they have researched themselves to better themselves and not saying people MUST follow these things, but rather bits of info that they have found to work in their lives... If you want post a video with facts you find out of articles or what not, but no need to call peoples life experiences and knowledge a joke...
I think you're neglecting to notice that this is YouTube, not a professional community, nor are they making a profit from it. In fact, if you go to the WLL page, they make it very clear that you should seek your doctors advice before embarking a diet/exercise plan. You've got a big campaign ahead of you if your goal is to keep all non-professionals from posting their thoughts, opinions, and experiences online!
But I do want to say, my mom who is a an RN sees the extreme health problems due to weight. Taking care of very large patients who have someone managed to gain so much weight over time. It's horrible what they have to go through. WLS seems way more invasive, painful and time consuming than something I want to devote my time and energy to. I certainly disagree with the assertion that it's 'AN EASY WAY'. there is no easy way, the goal is HEALTH! ;)
These videos this week have been very offensive. I'd love to of lost weight the "hard way". Oh wait I am doing it the HARD way. You obviously have no idea what people that have wls go through. It is very very hard & it hurts to know that people just pass it off as the easy way out when it is soooo hard.
I know people with WLS and it is an easy way to appear thin and change you appearance quick.. I will admit it comes with a lot of work to maintain yourself.. just as much as if you tried it by eating and working out, but the surgery usually adds more risks on top of that work..
"bugga it all"? are you serious? what the heck does that mean???? just being funny! than you for having a back bone. some people on WLL need to stop appologizing so much and just tell the truth. Dont be scared!
Ha! I hadn't even seen these videos that your group made.Just saw that some of my subscribers were offended by it. I think this is hilarious that you guys would go to so much effort to publicly be so harsh on a topic you know little about. You'd probably be better off sticking to videos about yourself and not on others choices.
I think the series of videos were not meant to be harsh or bashing, but to express their view on the topic, from what they know.. there is only room to learn more about the topic if something is missing.. If people get offended then that is something personal for them and I am sure not the intended meaning of the video by the auther of it...
I know exactly what billboard you're talking about. I pass two of them every day on my way to work. One is like the one you are talking about and then another a half mile away shows a thinner, happier woman getting on the scale, and is happily surprised like she lost weight. Another WLS advertisement. I hate adverts in general. So annoying.
For me it boils down to this,WHATEVER WORKS!!For me it just isn't an option.I do NOT think that surgery is an EASY option.You should see what these people go through. I think to each his own,we are all arriving at the same place just taking a different road.I respect those who get surgery ,that is THEIR way. I am sure they do not feel like they have gotten a piggy back.,they have struggles.Yes,different from ours but struggles yet the same. GREAT VIDEO!
Alls I know is I'm against wls for myself. I always love a good successful weight loss story! Whether they decided on wls, lapband, or through eating healthy and exercising. Even if they started out unhealthy at first. WLS is just another thing to argue about. Anyone can easily feel personally attached when they feel threatened in some way by an oppossing view. Happens to me with child raising. The key is to share ideas and experiences so we're all enlighted by each other ;)
But the past two days have been wls bashing...which I guess answers Monday's question of why the 2 groups don't overlap much.
Also, as someone who has spent almost a year going through the different requirements that my insurance company has, I resent the idea that wls is easy to obtain and that anyone can have it done.
I lost weight last year. I still qualify for surgery. I spent last year from January to mid-June working out with a trainer to stay the exact same weight with just a slight improvement in body composition. That's 4-5 times a week for an hour each time.
It isn't getting to my goal weight I'm worried about. I've been to goal weights before. I have always regained the weight. I'm getting the surgery to aid me in getting back down to goal and to maintain goal weight.
"Its the easy option, because umm in my opinion it just is" This isn't a logical argument. You can only loose pounds yourself. nothing else can act for you. This is why people do fail after surgery. People hide it because others judge them - like being HIV positive, Gay, Addicted to drugs, alcoholics. LAp BAnd is a tool - like an IUD or glasses.
Interesting to hear that lapband is not promoted/acepted where you are.. Good video lauren!! Its about changing you LIFE not the size of your stomach that makes the difference...
i dont think anyone should degrade weight loss surgery unless they have been in a position of 450lbs+....only because it's harder for a person to move around with so much weight and it's basically out of control..yes People can do it and it can be done..like i say it's possible to lose so much weight, because it has been done, but it is highly improbable.....people dont understand that it's not like "oh I need to lose fifty pounds" imagine telling urself, "i need to lose 300 lbs" not guna hapen
It can happen! It just depends how much that person wants to do it on their own! Fair enough they might not be able to exercise alot but they can eat healthily and cut down on food!
well I near 360 lbs. myself given I am 6'9".. but the person can always take steps towards a healthier self! they may not being able to lose 300 lbs. and be 150, but they can lose some weight and any weight loss is a step in a healthier direction for that person.. trying to lose weight on own may be a lot easier than some problems or complications that may come with the surgery later.. the persons body will still be unhealthy from their previous weight once they get surgery and will still need
to follow a eat right and exercise plan after.. I know because one of my friends has had the surgery and I see a lot of stuff it has caused for her and the commitment it take to stay healthy once you have gotten the surgery.. I think people would be a lot healthier if they didn't get the surgery and tried to work it off.. that is my opinion...
I just wouldn't see it as a piggy back, because they are sharing their knowledge that will help with foods that will benefit your body. I see surgery as getting a piggy back and it has many bad side effects after as well from my experience with a friend who has had weight loss surgery, but as far as nutritionist and physical trainers are considered it isn't piggy backing, because you still put in the work to help yourself and excercise,
this discussion is very interesting; i appreciate your views (may not agree with everything but thats ok too) I see all these things as tools to help achieve long term weight loss. with wls you still put in the work yourself. we have to eat right, exercise and "do the work ourselves". surgery just helps with things like preventing binging and sometimes helping people get to a wt so they r able to exercise, now they can walk without pain or walk without being exhausted after 10 steps.
we are not all on the same playing field. what works for one person doesnt always work for another. someone with diabetes for ex. their body is working against them, the high sugar content and insulin needed to counteract makes the brain tell the body..more food. This subject is not black or white. sometimes it takes more than just diet and exercise, altho definately part of the equation. I really like this debate, because we can learn from each other if we respect and remain open minded.
In response to person asking about Nutritionists and physical trainers being piggy backs.From my experience with nutritionists they don't discourage from eating foods or eating less food, just eating the right food.. before my 9th grade year of school I had to see one because my insolin rate was extremely high and I was dangerously close to having diabetes.
I agree with the essence of what you have said with the caveat that "easy" is an unfair word to use. Later in the vid you state that surgery is invasive and has risks so something like "short cut" might be more accurate than "easy".
I think the billboard thing has more to do with the American profit driven society, where medicine is a business just like any other.
I think that most see no light and the end of the tunnel and America is not helping with the insurance company paying for it. I am not that overweight to get this done but if I was I would not get it. So many have died trying to be thin.
I am sure we can agree that people have died from many things, being skinny or Obese or anything else.. but I believe getting weight loss surgery in most cases is basically trading your problems with your heavy weight for problems/complications that you will get after the surgery.
I have had three good friends have the surgery and it has changed two of there lifesfor the good. However one 5 years later is 120 lbs and look like death. She cant stop loosing and is fighting for her life. I say great job to all that are doing good on the weight loss no matter how they loose it pills, diet, working out or surgery. I am happy that they have increased there life.
may i respectfully ask you something.... do you consider weight watchers, diet pills, even nutritionists or physical trainers as getting a piggy back?
Well said, Lauren! I find that American culture promotes "the easy way out". I mean "the easy way out" attitude got Americans into the obesity predicament they are in now.
I still think everyone is entitled to choice and if someone chooses WLS that's their decision.
Question for you and any other WLL hosts ... many have said WLS is ok only if it's life or death. Who do you feel decides that? Who is qualified to say that? A doctor who is paid to cut? Thanks for your views. I agree totally on your thoughts of diets. Lifestyle changes are needed in any WL option. Thanks
Thank you for your comment Tom. May I just start my saying that you look absolutely fantastic! I think that the decision is between the patient and the doctor obviously. The life or death comment is just my personal view.
Lauren, beautifully presented...with class as always. The mindset is key. In fact, I have heard of cases of people that have this surgery, and because their mindset hadn't changed, take up another addiction like alchohol, because in the beginning they can't fill that emotional void with food... That being said, I still clearly remember the desperation I felt when I considered doing this surgery and so I remain quite empathetic for those that chose to do it.
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ButterflyInTheMaking 2 years ago
You may lose it on your own, but trust me you will gain it back plus twenty pounds.
beckyspe 2 years ago
i wouldn't ever have wls, but it's far from easy. people who get wls are committing to a lifestyle for the rest of their lives...the weight loss is probably the only easy part about it, because the maintenance of it all is a lot of hard work. and i think they have to think A LOT about what's going into their bodies.that being said, i agree with your view on diets being crap. i think the best way is to just eat what you want, but control the portions and just exercise.
glaceauuu 2 years ago
You had me there until you said the only hard way is doing losing it on your own. Speaking whose actually had surgery ( lap-band ) It is in no-way the easy way I struggle just like anyone else. I can't eat certain foods anymore, but I've gotten used to that. I just love how people comment on something they no nothing about. Oh, and no I don't have the same feelings I struggled with. Those are all gone. I'm feeling great. Until, you've been there, you have no room to judge.
celinejen 2 years ago
Hey your make-up's cool... I searched your name and voila... heaps of make-up tutorials... I could tell! lol
ByeByeBelly 2 years ago
great video :-)
weealia 2 years ago
you rock girl :) thanks for your inspiration
AKphoto101333 2 years ago
from what ive read you can have serious malnutrition from wls. if you are literally dying and dont have time left in your life to calorie count and what not, then by all means save yourself and get the surgery. However, it is the easy way if you actually believe that you cant do it on your own. You can. Lots of people have lost hundreds of pounds on their own. It can be done. Weight loss surgery should only be to prevent impending death in my opinion
Jzend001 3 years ago
Im sure this lady is perfectly nice, but this video smells of someone whos never read up on the other side.
sixdumboutlaws 3 years ago
agreed. as someone who has known the despair of friends who have turned to the surgery (1) its FAR from easy and (2) this is the reason there is a rift between weight losers who do it "the hard way" and those who have surgery. there seems to be this misconception that you have surgery and you lose weight and thats it. couldnt be farther from the truth! it would behoove everyone in every case to do some research before forming opinions and speaking about something you have no clue about.
shatani 2 years ago
Also, I've read news stories about some of the ways the UK is handling obesity (for example, removing fat children from their homes), which make me suspicious of any suggestion that the UK is doing a better job on this issue.
FYI, to qualify for WLS (at least in the US) you have to meet criteria for medical necessity. You make this odd caveat at the end about people who are going to die from their weight: Well, you *have* to be at that point to get surgery. Misinformation galore...
molawed 3 years ago
There's a lot of misinformation in this video, ranging from the mindset of someone who gets WLS, to the ease of getting the surgery in the US, to why people get surgery - even to the response of Americans to WLS (ever heard of Star Jones?) Geez, girl. It's kind of disgusting.
molawed 3 years ago
Lauren, i have a question 4 u???? with all the drama this week and comments from both sides have you changed your mind about what you said or do you still stand by what you said in this video?
mizzpurpose 3 years ago
i hate when people say "this is my opinion so dont be offended." thats a cowards way out. If someone utters something negative, the only intent they have in their heart is to hurt someone else. I dont understand why you would want to hurt people. Please be mindful of your words. you cannot take back what you say and you have no control of what someone may have heard in your statement. Personally I think you wanted to cause trouble to get more views. It's nothing new.
peterrabbit31 3 years ago
HOW CAN DOCTORS CAN MAKE AN AD like dat? how can they make fun of people? ....fat people are people, right? Aren't doctor sworn to help people? sorry... i might get a little political here, but its much needed to be said. Doctors are not being the elite of our society because they being good people... no no no. Its because they the one BANKING. The worst part, they banking on our money. DOCTOR=EVIL. Maybe one exception ... Dr. House, and he ain't even real.
lango39 3 years ago
Lauren, you the woman! so so so true, how fat people are joked around every day and....and you are so right about that billboard.
lango39 3 years ago
the hard way! lol! yes, i'm getting a piggy back. i guess just like my uncle the heart patients who takes blood thinners, i guess like my 4 yr old asthmatic son who takes breathing treatments, i guess just like my grandmother who has dementia and takes aricept. we are all doing it the easy way! yeah for us!
andrea8430 3 years ago
INTERESTING. Lol, self-inflicted weight gain vs. unprovoked illness.
blueeyedbetty 3 years ago
wow, strong message..I'm not for it or against it.. but I know I can lose the weight myself..if i can lose 50 lbs I can lose 100 lbs..it just depends on the person! everyone is entitled to thier opionions and beliefs. great vid!
UltimateAnonymity 3 years ago
its all about self control..
i really dont understand why people are getting so pissed.. everyone is entitled to their opinion
beyerprep 3 years ago
if it was so easy as u say and all this about get ur mind right u need to pratice what u preach and lose ur own weight and yeah i deff disagree with you--maybe wls isnt for u but who are u to say that it isnt for anyone--kthanks!
mexicanbabe2009 3 years ago
I am losing weight! I have lost 57lbs since July and I am still going strong! My start weight was 315 lbs and I don't think that I needed surgery at that weight! I am now 257lbs and I can't wait to get to my goal.
Thank you for watching!
blueeyedbetty 3 years ago
10 points for personal responsibility!
Losing weight the natural way and through surgery are equally as hard as they both require you to change and maintain your eating habits. But it seems more *sane* and economical to just eat like you have a medically altered stomach. Save yourself from going under the knife. Eat smaller portions and drink lots of water. At least you know you won't die if you slip up and binge.
jenniferstuff 3 years ago
we accept it so easily because we are soooooo sperficial and its digusting, but we always want to put the image out that we are perfect when of course we are not. Especially here in California though.
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blueeyedbetty 3 years ago
And even more.. my local top 40 radio station has been playing (with intense regularity) advertisements for one of the weight loss surgeries!
WeightLossTrav 3 years ago
No one can fault anyone for their opinion! I like it that you were honest about how you felt. Keep on truckin' girl. :)
waterchicklet 3 years ago
I agree, it is the easy way of losing weight.. for obvious reasons! It's extra help and those like you do not get that extra help.
Jessismac 3 years ago
The view from the top is the same not matter how you get up the mountain :)
allisonpacino 3 years ago
I do respect the views of tothers. However, I have to add thatI got myself into this body too...and I am getting myself out of it just like you( and all others losing weight)...just in a different way. With this surgery I am doing my part and if I didn't it just wouldn't work out in the long run. This is a help ,but it's not magic....and from my experience definitely not easy.
allisonpacino 3 years ago
Lauren, I think you are a very intellegant woman, and have alot of fire in you. However, I can't say that I agree with your response this week. You seemed very matter of fact and uncaring in your response this week.
There is a place for WLS if needed. And there is a place where it is not necessary. But, we must respect other's for their decisions that they have made for THEIR lives. Not EVERYONE can get up for a walk, that was NOT true. I don't agree with the "piggy back" comment either...
junkinthetrunkk 3 years ago
I don't think I would call it "piggy backing" I think I would say it's more like getting a little push. Weight loss surgery is NOT an easy decision to make. It's scary. It's confusing. It's life changing. I know, I was almost there. My hopes is that before the decision for someone to do something so drastic to their lives that they give it everything they have inside of them to do it themselves. If you can honesty say to yourself that you have... and you are at a point where the weight is...
junkinthetrunkk 3 years ago
effecting aspects of your life that are life altering, then reasearch it with causion and an open mind. I have had alot of emotionaly charged discussions about this recently, and I stand by my first video. It is not for me, but we can't pass judgement on people who do. I also wish that the personal attacks on both sides would stop. This is NOT personal, but individual opinions, and should be treated as such. I know I got off on a tangum, and I am sorry but lets just all agree to disagree. ~Amber
junkinthetrunkk 3 years ago
I really appreciate this comment :)
allisonpacino 3 years ago
Thank you for this... it's been a rollercoaster.
junkinthetrunkk 3 years ago
All video responses are approved.
weightlosslosers 3 years ago
I have had WLS. That being said, there is nobody giving me a piggyback up the mountain. I have to make good choices about what I eat every meal of every day and I am the one working my a** off at the gym 5 times a week. If I don't do the right things and change my mindset, the scale won't move. The surgery isn't magic. You're entitled to have your opinion and I'm not really even seeking to change it, but please understand that success doesn't happen without work, even with surgery.
jodie729 3 years ago
Ok, that is great that you are making good food choices and exercising regularly, but why couldn't you do that before surgery?
blueeyedbetty 3 years ago
I did. OVER and OVER and OVER again. I would never have chosen to have this surgery if I could've lost this weight on my own... If you'd like to feel superior about that and tell me I'm weak for not doing it 100% your way - hey, whatever makes you feel better. This surgery gave me my life back in EVERY sense of the word. P.S., when I say I tried, I was counting last night and I dieted for 25 of the 32 years I've been on this Earth without "lasting" success. Is 25 years enough failure?
jodie729 3 years ago
I think that a lot of people that get the surgery have usually been trying to lose weight all of their lives.
I, personally, don't care who gets surgery... if they put the weight back on due to not changing their lifestyle, thats their own fault. Other than that, I really don't see an "easy way out" because I personally would never be able to have a surgery no matter how bad I wanted it! I would be terrified, lol
Just wanted to get involved in this awesome discussion!
mollzz 3 years ago
woweee.. between these vids and Twitter, its insane!!
I dont understand why all the drama is going on. lol all of u guys have stated very clearly that these are your opinions and that you support decisions no matter what.
i just don't get why everyone is in such a tizzy!
whatever. lol I enjoyed this video..opinions and all!
Thanks Lauren!!
<3
KeriLyn2980 3 years ago
I understand that WLS costs insurance companies money but so does diabetes, sleep apnea, hypertension, high cholesterol and all the other diseases that go along with obesity. Sometimes diet and exercise alone will not shed the weight quickly enough for a person who is overweight with severe medical problems. If you need cardiac bypass surgery and you weigh 400 pounds, diet and exercise will not get you down to 200 quickly enough for you to have the life saving surgery you need.
stonesfanatik 3 years ago
You do have some good points. I agree that you do have to change your mindset to lose weight with any method you choose. I am currently undergoing pre-op testing for the lap band and I can assure you that it is not an easy way out. It is simply a tool to help a morbidly obese person lose a large amount of weight relatively quickly. It has to be taken seriously and there are ways to defeat it if you haven't set your mind right. My obesity is life threatening and I need treatment.
stonesfanatik 3 years ago
after reading these comments i think people are missing the point.
it doesnt matter whether you believe in wls or not. truly.
because of the way the week started, we hoped for thoughtful, informed opinions and that is not what we got. so be it.
we subbed to this channel because we all want to get healthy, we all believe in eating correctly and exercise. we are all working towards the same goal, we just have different tools getting there.
MissJanieHere 3 years ago
Thank you so much for this comment. I get the feeling that you really dislike me, and so be it.
I think everyone has been missing the point.
It would be nice if someone with a voice in the WLS community (like yours) made it clear that just because someone doesn't or won't recommend WLS doesn't mean they're un-supportive or unloving to those who've had it.
It seems to me that several WLS patients here just want to be angry at someone, which I find really sad and wrong.
antishay 3 years ago
You are wrong, I dont dislike you. I dont know you.
I have just been watching you every week since this channel started.
I was just disappointed that you didnt take the time to look into it a little more. You did a book review last week... you could have googled some facts up this week.
Its just hard for me to understand how a person forms an opinion without knowing something about the subject. but thats just me.
MissJanieHere 3 years ago
I support and am supported by people who do not recommend wls... that is not the issue here, at least not for me.
I feel responsible because I shared mondays video with my community and asked them to give their thoughts.
I feel that they opened themselves up and shared themselves and then got slammed dunked by the most ignorant comments I have ever seen one overweight person can give another.
MissJanieHere 3 years ago
Then to top it off... to have you guys who are leaders in your communities show such contempt... at least thats my take... by not even taking the time to learn something about it before speaking...
your actions and your words matter.
they carry weight in your community.
you can disagree with wls. thats absolutely fine. you are entitled.
MissJanieHere 3 years ago
I dont care if anyone on the planet ever agreed with it.
It saved my life.
I no longer have diabetes. I no longer have sleep apnea or GERD. And in May I will find out if the exercise and the "diet" that I have been following for the last 8 months has reversed any of the damage that I had in my heart.
WLS saved my life...so I dont and cant care whether people recommend it or not.
MissJanieHere 3 years ago
All I know, is that people who I love and care about, took the time to respond to a video made by someone they had no clue about for me.
I am responsible. I hurt for them. I hate that they shed their tears in front of people who have no clue and do not care about anything other than being right.
And by this I mean the viewers...I am not happy with many comments made by either community ...but I exposed them to this. Thats my fault.
You're not taking the time to research is yours.
MissJanieHere 3 years ago
Can you take a step back and see that you admitted in the start of your video that you did very little research on the topic. before you posted your opinion, how fair is that? you make blanket statements on a stereotype of people who have the surgery. (ones that dont do the right thing post op) FOR THE RECORD, NONE of my videos were aim'd at you, or anyone from this channel. They were a reply to another video posted as a reply to Al's post. ok?
watchmegetskinny 3 years ago
I think the video is telling the truth, why nobody calls it what it is, lazy weight loss, and we cheer people on who are putting there life in danger...right on sister for telling the truth
s0uth3rncomfort 3 years ago
Al's video was much more acceptable to both sides because he remained neutral.
YvettesBoutique 3 years ago 3
Thank you Yvette. I tried to express an opinion and remain neutral. It truly is all in the way you word things.
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Alejandro
P.S. (Good to see you back)
weightlosslosers 3 years ago
Your welcome Tenor! Good to be back!
I appreciate your reasonableness and I think keeping a level head in these matters is definitely key, yet not always easy to do under the circumstances, especially when people are very passionate about their own opinions.
I think a person can voice an opinion just try to be as considerate and tactful as possible.
YvettesBoutique 3 years ago
i think he did more than just remain neutral...he acknowledged that he doesnt have all the answers and he refrained from condemning anyone who wasnt doing things his way.
i expected what shanti said because she is very opinionated and never afraid to express her thoughts. while i dont always agree with her, i respect the fact that she does research on things before she starts talking. i can respect a well-informed opinion, not spouting off without having read a damn thing. my bias, i guess.
shatani 2 years ago
Shanti?
This is blueeyedbetty's video and I was commenting and referring to her and thestarvingtenor.
YvettesBoutique 2 years ago
yes, i understand that. i was saying that i expected what shanti said and because i am familiar with her videos and know that she is the type that does research before she speaks, i didnt have a problem with hers (although i disagree). this video, however, was just slightly ridiculously misinformed and came off like the blatherings of someone who needs to take a moment and read a book. i have a problem with "opinions" based on nothing. she's free to have it, and im free to think its crap.
shatani 2 years ago
Lauren,
I really enjoy your videos and I find your channel inspiring.I think the problem here is
when you are involved in a weight loss support channel, it should be exactly that,support, no matter what road a person chooses to lose weight. I think you shed a lot of negative light on WLS and did not balance it out with the positives.Your personal opinions should stay with your own personal channels and on this channel give the support that is expected.
YvettesBoutique 3 years ago
I think this video is so stupid and the person who is talking is not a professional so I don't listen to anything she is saying less just remember that WLS is a tool if you don't work it it would not work at the end.....sorry but that is my opinion.....
cubangordita24 3 years ago
I think it is great you all are voicing your opinions on this topic. Def a touchy subject for a lot. Great video Lauren:)
swtprpgrl32 3 years ago
Thanks Angie!
blueeyedbetty 3 years ago
My comment was in reference to the specific videos slamming wls for the morbidly obese. For me that does not constitute "bits of info that they have found to work in their lives..." I applaud anyone with success with any behavior change. What I can't understand is how you can call slamming wls as "peoples life experiences and knowledge." I haven't viewed any of that here this week. I haven't found any support offered just judgement of others hidden as "personal opinions."
Journey2betrhealth 3 years ago 2
I think my video response to this video pretty much answers that question as well as I am able. The WLS community may feel slammed, but at the same time, they're telling us our diet and exercise is going to be effective, which is just as offensive, really.
WingedSeed 3 years ago
Not sure who said diet and exercise wasn't going to work. IT DOES WORK for some! It's what WE are doing NOW with the help of this intervention. FOR SOME the imbalance of hormones, metabolism, ghrelin, lifelong co-morbidities, & year of unsuccessful lifestyle changes warrants intervention. Truly, I hope u ARE successful. Just be open 2 the possibility that IF, 10 years from now, you are still struggling there are other options out there and you probably wouldn't want to be judged for them.
Journey2betrhealth 3 years ago 2
No need to call them a joke as a whole then if you don't agree with a few things they have said... they have not been slamming WLS, rather telling that they don't agree with it and their opinion.. Not all the time when people have opposing views and voice them does it mean they are "slamming" it.. They are encouraging them though, they are still encouraging them to continue their weight loss goal in what they think is a healthy way, not just saying WLS is bad. I just should make a video response
Katonka 3 years ago
In my opinion this channel is a joke, spewing false information based on limited and biased opinions to viewers seeking knowledge not hype. For accurate information on all diets, healthy behaviors, weight loss surgery, and all available options, viewers should search medical articles or contact their family physician or nutritionist. Research all your options, the data, and most importantly do whatever it takes to spend your life healthy, not just wishing to be!
Donna, RN
Journey2betrhealth 3 years ago
Most are not able to see a doctor/nutritionist/family physician... They are voicing what has and is working for them.. what they have researched themselves to better themselves and not saying people MUST follow these things, but rather bits of info that they have found to work in their lives... If you want post a video with facts you find out of articles or what not, but no need to call peoples life experiences and knowledge a joke...
Katonka 3 years ago
I think you're neglecting to notice that this is YouTube, not a professional community, nor are they making a profit from it. In fact, if you go to the WLL page, they make it very clear that you should seek your doctors advice before embarking a diet/exercise plan. You've got a big campaign ahead of you if your goal is to keep all non-professionals from posting their thoughts, opinions, and experiences online!
Natasha, LMT
WingedSeed 3 years ago 2
Have you read the disclaimer on the channel homepage? I think not.
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Alejandro
weightlosslosers 3 years ago
Lauren. Very articulate as usual. Thank you for sharing your perspective and opinion.
ActionWords 3 years ago
AGREED.
wwgirl17 3 years ago
Apparently not, because your video is up there. Sometimes things just take time......
WingedSeed 3 years ago
Haha. I adore you Lauren. "Buggah it all!" Cracks me up!
piperlynne 3 years ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
Thank you Piper!
<3
blueeyedbetty 3 years ago
Whew Lauren, tell me how you really feel!
ceramicheart150 3 years ago
This diviates from the topic a little.
But I do want to say, my mom who is a an RN sees the extreme health problems due to weight. Taking care of very large patients who have someone managed to gain so much weight over time. It's horrible what they have to go through. WLS seems way more invasive, painful and time consuming than something I want to devote my time and energy to. I certainly disagree with the assertion that it's 'AN EASY WAY'. there is no easy way, the goal is HEALTH! ;)
XBellaSoleilX 3 years ago 2
These videos this week have been very offensive. I'd love to of lost weight the "hard way". Oh wait I am doing it the HARD way. You obviously have no idea what people that have wls go through. It is very very hard & it hurts to know that people just pass it off as the easy way out when it is soooo hard.
meltingmommy 3 years ago
I know people with WLS and it is an easy way to appear thin and change you appearance quick.. I will admit it comes with a lot of work to maintain yourself.. just as much as if you tried it by eating and working out, but the surgery usually adds more risks on top of that work..
Katonka 3 years ago
you seem upset.
misterkleen 3 years ago 2
"bugga it all"? are you serious? what the heck does that mean???? just being funny! than you for having a back bone. some people on WLL need to stop appologizing so much and just tell the truth. Dont be scared!
LINDSTROMTODD 3 years ago
Bugger it all! LOL it means forget it all! Thank you for your comment.
blueeyedbetty 3 years ago
don't worry ;)
tbossbone 3 years ago
Ha! I hadn't even seen these videos that your group made.Just saw that some of my subscribers were offended by it. I think this is hilarious that you guys would go to so much effort to publicly be so harsh on a topic you know little about. You'd probably be better off sticking to videos about yourself and not on others choices.
lookingforward73 3 years ago
I think the series of videos were not meant to be harsh or bashing, but to express their view on the topic, from what they know.. there is only room to learn more about the topic if something is missing.. If people get offended then that is something personal for them and I am sure not the intended meaning of the video by the auther of it...
Katonka 3 years ago 2
I know exactly what billboard you're talking about. I pass two of them every day on my way to work. One is like the one you are talking about and then another a half mile away shows a thinner, happier woman getting on the scale, and is happily surprised like she lost weight. Another WLS advertisement. I hate adverts in general. So annoying.
singdomiso 3 years ago
The Bad thing about Surgery is they can't cut on your brain....
Thats what got us into trouble in the first place, Now if that was an Option, sign me up:-)
But its Not, so Diet and Exercise will have to do for Now, Plus I dont have Insurance.
I have Lost almost 100 pounds on my OWN:-)
Nicsaprincess 3 years ago 4
For me it boils down to this,WHATEVER WORKS!!For me it just isn't an option.I do NOT think that surgery is an EASY option.You should see what these people go through. I think to each his own,we are all arriving at the same place just taking a different road.I respect those who get surgery ,that is THEIR way. I am sure they do not feel like they have gotten a piggy back.,they have struggles.Yes,different from ours but struggles yet the same. GREAT VIDEO!
Candocait 3 years ago 2
You make a lot of sense.
meltingmamamelted 3 years ago 2
Alls I know is I'm against wls for myself. I always love a good successful weight loss story! Whether they decided on wls, lapband, or through eating healthy and exercising. Even if they started out unhealthy at first. WLS is just another thing to argue about. Anyone can easily feel personally attached when they feel threatened in some way by an oppossing view. Happens to me with child raising. The key is to share ideas and experiences so we're all enlighted by each other ;)
XBellaSoleilX 3 years ago
i agree with a lot of the things you said in this video. loved it! <3
kristine0002 3 years ago 2
Thank you Krissy!
<3
blueeyedbetty 3 years ago
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GoalUnder50kg 3 years ago
I'm sorry, but of all the WLL vids I've seen this week, yours is the most offensive of all.
AJC0402 3 years ago
Monday's video wasn't bad.
But the past two days have been wls bashing...which I guess answers Monday's question of why the 2 groups don't overlap much.
Also, as someone who has spent almost a year going through the different requirements that my insurance company has, I resent the idea that wls is easy to obtain and that anyone can have it done.
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Sarleland 3 years ago
I lost weight last year. I still qualify for surgery. I spent last year from January to mid-June working out with a trainer to stay the exact same weight with just a slight improvement in body composition. That's 4-5 times a week for an hour each time.
It isn't getting to my goal weight I'm worried about. I've been to goal weights before. I have always regained the weight. I'm getting the surgery to aid me in getting back down to goal and to maintain goal weight.
IamBmeTammy 3 years ago
I think you put too much faith in the surgery.
If you have failed in the past, what makes you think this time will be all of a sudden different?
We have to seriously change our mindset if we hope to have any sort of long term success.
We can only live for today. TODAY I will make healthy choices. If we fail today, TOMORROW is a new day, and a fresh start to make better choices.
The good lord above has never promised us TOMORROW, we have only TODAY. The future is not certain, or promised.
michiganlover 3 years ago
I don't feel this has been bashing, but expressing her view and opinion on this topic..
Katonka 3 years ago 4
Did someone come round to your house and force you to watch it on pain of death?
ProjectorGames 3 years ago
Uh, no....just like the WLLers are so fond of "expressing their opinions", my opinion is that I found this video to be offensive.
AJC0402 3 years ago
"Its the easy option, because umm in my opinion it just is" This isn't a logical argument. You can only loose pounds yourself. nothing else can act for you. This is why people do fail after surgery. People hide it because others judge them - like being HIV positive, Gay, Addicted to drugs, alcoholics. LAp BAnd is a tool - like an IUD or glasses.
kbf1 3 years ago 4
yeah those lap band billboards are so annoying!
nananaAri 3 years ago
Interesting to hear that lapband is not promoted/acepted where you are.. Good video lauren!! Its about changing you LIFE not the size of your stomach that makes the difference...
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kbf1 3 years ago
Lauren is my favorite!
thunderthighs43 3 years ago
i dont think anyone should degrade weight loss surgery unless they have been in a position of 450lbs+....only because it's harder for a person to move around with so much weight and it's basically out of control..yes People can do it and it can be done..like i say it's possible to lose so much weight, because it has been done, but it is highly improbable.....people dont understand that it's not like "oh I need to lose fifty pounds" imagine telling urself, "i need to lose 300 lbs" not guna hapen
IShaDowRox 3 years ago
It can happen! It just depends how much that person wants to do it on their own! Fair enough they might not be able to exercise alot but they can eat healthily and cut down on food!
blueeyedbetty 3 years ago
well I near 360 lbs. myself given I am 6'9".. but the person can always take steps towards a healthier self! they may not being able to lose 300 lbs. and be 150, but they can lose some weight and any weight loss is a step in a healthier direction for that person.. trying to lose weight on own may be a lot easier than some problems or complications that may come with the surgery later.. the persons body will still be unhealthy from their previous weight once they get surgery and will still need
Katonka 3 years ago 2
to follow a eat right and exercise plan after.. I know because one of my friends has had the surgery and I see a lot of stuff it has caused for her and the commitment it take to stay healthy once you have gotten the surgery.. I think people would be a lot healthier if they didn't get the surgery and tried to work it off.. that is my opinion...
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Sarleland 3 years ago
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avarielle015 3 years ago
you are just gaining knowledge from people with knowledge to help you achieve that goal yourself.
Katonka 3 years ago
I just wouldn't see it as a piggy back, because they are sharing their knowledge that will help with foods that will benefit your body. I see surgery as getting a piggy back and it has many bad side effects after as well from my experience with a friend who has had weight loss surgery, but as far as nutritionist and physical trainers are considered it isn't piggy backing, because you still put in the work to help yourself and excercise,
Katonka 3 years ago
this discussion is very interesting; i appreciate your views (may not agree with everything but thats ok too) I see all these things as tools to help achieve long term weight loss. with wls you still put in the work yourself. we have to eat right, exercise and "do the work ourselves". surgery just helps with things like preventing binging and sometimes helping people get to a wt so they r able to exercise, now they can walk without pain or walk without being exhausted after 10 steps.
autumnpromise91 3 years ago 2
we are not all on the same playing field. what works for one person doesnt always work for another. someone with diabetes for ex. their body is working against them, the high sugar content and insulin needed to counteract makes the brain tell the body..more food. This subject is not black or white. sometimes it takes more than just diet and exercise, altho definately part of the equation. I really like this debate, because we can learn from each other if we respect and remain open minded.
autumnpromise91 3 years ago 3
Hello
I must say.. Im very surprised by your take on WLS.
karikatk 3 years ago
In response to person asking about Nutritionists and physical trainers being piggy backs.From my experience with nutritionists they don't discourage from eating foods or eating less food, just eating the right food.. before my 9th grade year of school I had to see one because my insolin rate was extremely high and I was dangerously close to having diabetes.
Katonka 3 years ago
HERE HERE!! =]
blubbergoth 3 years ago
I agree with the essence of what you have said with the caveat that "easy" is an unfair word to use. Later in the vid you state that surgery is invasive and has risks so something like "short cut" might be more accurate than "easy".
I think the billboard thing has more to do with the American profit driven society, where medicine is a business just like any other.
paul20072007 3 years ago 2
I love your direct way of talking... you are brave.
halfbakedlaska 3 years ago 4
I think that most see no light and the end of the tunnel and America is not helping with the insurance company paying for it. I am not that overweight to get this done but if I was I would not get it. So many have died trying to be thin.
eluvg1975 3 years ago 3
Yes some people have died from trying to be thin. But Sooo many more have DIED from health problems being Obese.
ShrinkinPhotographer 3 years ago 4
I am sure we can agree that people have died from many things, being skinny or Obese or anything else.. but I believe getting weight loss surgery in most cases is basically trading your problems with your heavy weight for problems/complications that you will get after the surgery.
Katonka 3 years ago
I have had three good friends have the surgery and it has changed two of there lifesfor the good. However one 5 years later is 120 lbs and look like death. She cant stop loosing and is fighting for her life. I say great job to all that are doing good on the weight loss no matter how they loose it pills, diet, working out or surgery. I am happy that they have increased there life.
eluvg1975 3 years ago 2
may i respectfully ask you something.... do you consider weight watchers, diet pills, even nutritionists or physical trainers as getting a piggy back?
autumnpromise91 3 years ago 3
Well said, Lauren! I find that American culture promotes "the easy way out". I mean "the easy way out" attitude got Americans into the obesity predicament they are in now.
I still think everyone is entitled to choice and if someone chooses WLS that's their decision.
Cintaku78 3 years ago 2
Question for you and any other WLL hosts ... many have said WLS is ok only if it's life or death. Who do you feel decides that? Who is qualified to say that? A doctor who is paid to cut? Thanks for your views. I agree totally on your thoughts of diets. Lifestyle changes are needed in any WL option. Thanks
winelover215 3 years ago 11
Thank you for your comment Tom. May I just start my saying that you look absolutely fantastic! I think that the decision is between the patient and the doctor obviously. The life or death comment is just my personal view.
Keep up the fantastic work!
blueeyedbetty 3 years ago 3
I agree with Lauren --- that's definitely between the doctor and patient...
tbossbone 3 years ago 2
Lauren, beautifully presented...with class as always. The mindset is key. In fact, I have heard of cases of people that have this surgery, and because their mindset hadn't changed, take up another addiction like alchohol, because in the beginning they can't fill that emotional void with food... That being said, I still clearly remember the desperation I felt when I considered doing this surgery and so I remain quite empathetic for those that chose to do it.
fit2btried 3 years ago
<3 the video, Lauren!
VeiledGlory 3 years ago