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  • wow, led lights are not centered, there is only 2 660w LED's compared to 3x 600 watt HD table, not only NOT scientific, not close to even being fair.. plus this guy just likes to hear himself talk, i tryed watching one of his clips before and quit 1/2 thru as he did nothing but talk.

  • @stalkingtigerscom Lights are on a light mover if you would have paid attention you would have seen that. and sorry I dont do silent movies

  • LED lamps are not efficent and good rather than the Super Grow Mono Wavelength Lamp.

    It is a cheaper and high efficient rather than LED lamps

    40w/80w/150w/200w, RED, Blue and Mixed

  • IF YOU NEED SEEDS GO TO QCSEEDBANK. COM THEY ACCEPT PAYPAL AND SHIPPING IS FREE;) HELP THE OZONE GROW A FILTER!!!

  • u should do a plasma experiment

  • I did not hear you talking about the smoke quality? What was the end result as far as smoke taste and effekt?

  • You shoulda had the leds a little further away about 3 foot is good for those

  • Hey mr.blue Goo I'm a licensed medical patient in wa state any chance I can get a cutting or seed of blugoo maybe we could do a trade for the strain I developed "american werewolf"? Idk let me know.

    B

  • This video isn't useless, its a real good way of showing the downfall of LEDs if you don't get ones that have the science backing it. I'm guessing these are 1 watt leds.

  • your vids were very well presented and helped me make up my mind on the light source of my first gro.

  • @238raymo which did u decide to go with?

  • @melina1930 600 W MH

  • Big difference 

  • One thing I've read while researching, is that plants under LEDs don't transpire as much, if at all. So as a result, they don't uptake water and nutrients as much as under a HID. This causes calcium deficiency, and could also be the reason for smaller growth. Raising the temp of the medium can help with that, or as I'm doing in my own panel build.. add some InfraReds back into the mix.

  • @iamspuzzum Makes sense. Actually you can fix that just by upping PPM values, without even the need to raise temperature. Or do a bit of both.

  • @TheRadiastral

    Cool.. never heard of playing with the pH to adapt the plant to the environment. Something to google and keep me busy now......... :D

  • looks like your hair was growing some blue goo.... lol

  • i loved your videos they were very insitefull

  • you da man bluegoo! crackin me up!

  • There's a lot of big talk about LEDs, and they act like the lumen per watt is irrelevant due to the specific spectrums. You did a good job of showing how this isn't necessarily true. It might vary depending on if it's red, blue or combinations of wavelengths, but I suspect nothing will touch HPS for some time. My question would be for a quantified yield per watt. Yield of the 600w led divided by 600 and same for HPS. I'd guess that HPS is at least 1.5 times as much as LED.

  • im learning everyday about marijuana and once again ive learned something. Thank you for producing such a beautiful bud Mr. Blue Goo, makes me proud of the nor cali i live in :D

  • HPS!!!! CANT NO LED MESS WITH THEM.......OR ANY OTHER LIGHTING SYSTEM......PEACE!! NICE SIDE BY SIDE

  • Man you buy wrong led lghts :) i mean better buy more smaler panles....... because they can cover more area...... In that test led panels never win :( And belive me i testing led lights and i only can say LED=FUTURE :)

  • @1988Blazej Really? Let's see the evidence. 

  • @capoeiraike ye realy!! if you don know nothing about leds plz bether say nothing.

  • @1988Blazej Hmmm, AGAIN,,,,, Let's see the evidence.....You're the one making claims you can't prove. I think you better say nothing.

  • @capoeiraike Evidence?? Man look on internet.... :)

  • @1988Blazej LOL! Dude we are commenting on an LED video, I have looked on "the internet" so,,,,, AGAIN!!!!!!! Where is the evidence????????? LINK??? SITE?????

  • @capoeiraike look on monstergardens......

  • @1988Blazej Ummm ok, could you be a little more specific besides directing me to a hydroponic retailer??? I couldn't find ANY evidence supporting led superiority. Do you have any evidence or are you just trying to plug a hydro shop? If you're not completely full of shit it should be beyond easy to direct me to a SPECIFIC site or link to a SPECIFIC study/test that is conducted EXACTLY like BlueGoo's with side by side results. If you can't do that, then don't bother responding with more nonsense.

  • @1988Blazej Dude, I appreciate the effort but I don't think you know the difference between real evidence and manufacturers claims. AGAIN!! I'm not looking for BIASED anecdotal reports by led companies. I'm looking for ACTUAL HARD UNBIASED EVIDENCE such as BlueGoo's tests and results. Every led company out there claims their product is equal to or superior than standard HID lighting so sending me their "claims" is meaningless. It's obvious at this point you have no real evidence. Take care bro.

  • @papashake

    Good question. Im between big grows at the moment due to getting busted a short while back. Will put a vid up soon though of my brand new home made led light and will do a time lapse of its first grow. All i have at the moment is one little girl under 60w of led.

  • still good looking buds. you have to feed the plants a little diff under leds. but all in all still good looking buds. i guess it all depends if you get payed for weight or quality!

  • 600W For The Win!

  • If anyone thinks im wrong, well then i suggest you should go ask a qualified bottanist, who will in fact prove you wrong.

  • @orsanjethro  wheres your grow?

  • Good led lights have a minimum of 7 bands, to beat hps youre gonna need 15 or more bands. The exact absorption peaks (nano-metres) for chlorophills A&B are, 430, 453, 642, 662. There are lots more bands needed to get the carrotenoid and phytochrome peaks and fill in the gaps for both chlorophills, here they come in nano-metres and cct. 380 400 410 460 480 500 525 575 590 600 610 620 630 720 - 10000k 6000k 3000k.

  • led are good for closet grow,not commercial.

  • what did the led table brought up and what did the total growing cost in electric ?

  • Leds do no produce UVB, so to answer everyones question about how the smoke is, they are less potent.

  • @DubstepPuppeh just because you dont induce uv rays you can still have enhanced potent weed through cold stress or snowstorm lol

  • @gamereaper o and i forgot to say aircooled lights block uv rays SO WHAT NOW?!?!?!?!

  • Question on the led's. You said you used 600 watt led lamps. Now was that the power drawn by each lamp or the equivancy that the led was rated to replace comapared to an HID. I just wanted to clear that up because all the led's I have seen claim that a 100Watt led will replace a 400watt HID (as an rough example)

  • Super cool videos

  • thanks for the video, i was exactly lookin for something like this, im twisting between LED or 600W lights and u helped me verry much, thanks

  • 600 watts=60watts illumination

    6000watts=600 illumination.

    google illumination difference chart for candiset cfl led

  • i read somewhere that LED take longer to mature the buds is that right ? Do the LED buds taste / smoke better ?

    

  • Just one small question:

    What beam angle were the LEDs in the panels ?

    For optimal grow, you have to use a beam between [ 60° / 75° ]

    If you use a wider angle, you will have more surface under a less intense light beam so less power to photosynthesis.

    I prefer leds, because :

    - you have a bigger gr/watt ratio

    - easy to maintain

    - is a more quiet system

    - you have less heat

  • i grow tomatoes i wood like to do grow off with u let me no i send u sum seed there small tomatoes plant in usa

  • what kind of cem. are you useing

  • @alen9300 i have no idea what nutes he uses but im willing to bet its AN.

  • Can I have your led lights ? If so email me...

    dabomb2000_38401@yahoo.com

  • if you center the light right you might cover your plants better. i have a 740w and beat 2 Hortilux Super HPS EN Lamp - 1000W both had 24 plants and i got 7.62 oz more off the LED

  • led r crap

  • @zeropointemcs Stop trolling dumb fuck!

  • tanx for you,r exsperiment

  • hows it going goo? just wanted to ask how was the finished product using the led light how was the smoke in general? and if it was not as good as the coventional light. the power bill savings was it worth it?

  • hey I like your show have you tryed to combine the lights?

  • new tecnology dosnt make it better it just means new

  • HEY MR BLUEGOO YOU SHOULD TRY THE CREME DE LE CREME LED GROW LIGHT THE 336X-PRO Extreme LED Grow Light

    I THINK IF ANY LED LIGHT IS GOIN TO WORK IT WOULD BE THIS 1 ! I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU EXPERIMENT WITH IT AND SEE IF IT DOES ANY GOOD ? IM SURE HYDRO GROW LED WILL LEND YOU 1 OF THESE BEAUTYS AS TO PROVE WHAT THEY SAY IN ACTUAL FACTS N FIGURES CAN REALLY DO THE JOB THAT IT WAS MADE FOR

  • They have already been tested but our company needs to get some more street credit and I think you are the guy that can help us.

  • Hey Mr Blue Goo 420

    Great videos!

    If you would like to test our Fero LED Grow Lights please let me know. I really like how you did these videos.

    We will let you keep the LEDs in exchange for your hard work.

    brent@feroled.com

    Thanks!

  • @TheLEDGrowLightShop BEST LED LIGHT IVE SEEN SO FAR ITS THE 336X-PRO Extreme LED Grow Light GO CHECK THEM OUT AT HYDRO GROW LED

  • people, I'm not a P.H.D or anythimg like that, this expierriment was not formal. this was me just tryimg to see the difference between the two types of light. I would be glad to try anybody elses led lights if you would like to lend them out. the led were on tracks so the plants got plenty of of lighting during flower time. but thank you for the comments

  • @MrBlueGoo420 hey goo how many grams did u get p.p

  • @MrBlueGoo420 Sadly LED's are too expensive for me,,, Anyway you should try combining them with the HPS though bro 1000 watt HPS + a 600 watt LED a plant add a grip of CFL's too.

  • @TheDudeman619 Probably yield pounds.

  • I DONT NEED THERAPY AFTER 2:45 I NEED A NEW CROP, YOUR NUTRIENTS, AND YOUR EXPERIENCE

  • HOLY FUCK IM HIGH. WATCHED ALL 7 IN A ROW DUDE

  • DONT form conclusion from this video!!!!!!

    There are a few problems with this test which can and obviously (looking at the results) did have large impacts on the yield.

    1. Sunshine systems may not have the best LED lights...(high quality LED's are spaced 2' above canopy avg. and cover a larger surface area)

    2. The LED lights used required a track therefore the plants on the side of the trays were getting almost half the time of direct light instead of constant direct light (as were the hps).

  • 3. LED lighting requires small changes in the atmosphere such as ideal temperature being 82* instead of 72* etc....He used hps in the past and since plants were all in one room he must have used the hps preferences.

    Therefore this was not a proper test in the comparison of LED vs HPS. (Keep in mind in a proper comparison test you don't use the same amount of LED watts as HPS because that is one of the major beneficiaries of LEDs)

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  • How long from planting seed to harvest? What would do better for personnel use? Thanks for posting!!

  • Amazing Job Bro, really Inspiring. The only thing I noticed that didn't make the experiment quite as fair isn't the 1000W VS 600w LED, it was the light spread and type. I read you were using 1w Chips. Those are the absolute worst PAR ratings. You would have needed the Black Star 2 or 3W chip series. (2) 600w 3Wchip Black Stars with Blue goo. Could have used a Drywall to separate the two; VS the 1000w HID lighting. I'm not a LED fanatic, but it would have been a more even playing field.

  • I agree with LD25Delta I would have also like to have seen seperate rooms for each light system as you didnt quite get the full use out of leds when there is 1000w of conventional blazing right next to it.

  • What were the final weights? :)

  • thats fuckking nice ,like it

    ,comimg frm down south

  • thats fuckking nice ,like it

    

  • I watched all your installments and will admit you have had a very non-biased opinion and you have been very careful with the words you use to bring that across. You are still cheating though, you have 2 600watt LEDs but 3 600w HPS so your basis for comparison is still HID biased. I do appreciate your experiment as it does give a good basis of what LED can do.

  • We truly appreciate this experiment.

  • i love you

  • nice man what was the total yield size for the LED only.

  • yeah he did have the leds lower then the hids

  • The way you had your LED's setup wasent the best , you could have easaly pulled out alot more bud with the LED's possisitoned better, Great video man , it shows LED is worth somthing , but its not totaly ready Thank you

  • Hey Mr. Blue goo. you should give leds another try. trade or sell the panels you got now and get some with 2 or 3 watt chip sets. they are around 60% brighter and the PAR is out of this world.

  • very nice grow

  • fuck yes! just another reason led will never out do the hps!

  • @mrsmithcolin175 They said the same thing about computers never being able to beat human players. Then deep blue changed all that. Unless they can make HID any better than they already are, LEDs will 1 day be the standard.

  • thank you good sir

  • Very chunky brother...clone only?

  • i was wondering would you do a grow that would combine hps and led to see if you would get the benefits of both also what led panel did you use for this grow

  • @dpina01

    good point ,i was wondering the same.

    if i use 4 hps lamps i get hightemps .

    with 4 led lights i get no heat at all and need electric heating in my room.

    but when i us 2 led lights and 2 hps lights ,i still safe electric bills and maybe get enough heat.

    i have put 20 plants on 1 m² and 1 hps , and 4 hps in my room.

    so 80 plants.

    that went well ,but too expensive .

    people ask questions.

  • my 240watt led light is 14,000 lumens cant even keep up with a 70dollar 150watt hps at 16,800 lumens but nice video

  • @therealrockondon

    LED's aren't based on Lumens, they are based on PAR. Lumens are actually inferior to plants VS PAR rating(the type of light is more important than how bright it is). I'm not a LED nut I'm simply letting you know. I honestly used to think LED's sucked untill I did a little more research. A 600w 3W LED will slaughter a 600W HID in final product in Grams/per Watt test which is the basis for efficiency in growing. I noticed LED's make more Resin VS HID's as well...

  • @therealrockondon

    LED's aren't based on Lumens, they are based on PAR. Lumens are actually inferior to plants VS PAR rating(the type of light is more important than how bright it is). I'm not a LED nut I'm simply letting you know. I honestly used to think LED's sucked untill I did a little more research. A 600w 3W LED will slaughter a 600W HID in final product in Grams/per Watt test which is the basis for efficiency in growing. I noticed LED's make more Resin VS HID's as well...

  • @Okami13th WHY DO PEOPLE THINK I DONT KNOW WHAT PAR IS?every plant uses photsynthetic radiation but my 240 watt led panel grew 1ounce while my 400watt hps destroyed the led?the 240watter was also stressing the plant out ive tried leds they suck because there spendy and they stress the plants out.hps

    being 30percent blue has gotten me alot more than any led light.my 240watt led lights good for a small grow but a 150hps will own on a 240 watt 3watt cree led panel...hps wins everytime for bud

  • @Okami13th ps led companies use PAR DUDE BECAUSE IF THEY SAID OUR 90WATT UFO WAS 29-3200

    LUMENS NOBODY WOULD BUY...YES IVE DONE MY RESEARCH for over 10 years in leds

  • @MrBlueGoo420 thanks for your shares bro. I hope you stick around and don't flake off like alot of these guys do. Agian thanks for the grow info and cool vids

  • yo man i dont usually ask but.. where do you get your hair cut bruh ; )

  • amazing results off the 1000 and 600.. LED looked decent but could've been achieved with T5s for a fraction of the cost. thanks for putting out these vids.

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