I don't know why no one has pointed out that nothing is inherently random; some things are just to hard to predict without advanced techniques. If someone rolls a die, and you know the forces, masses, and initial conditions, with the correct approach you should be able to tell exactly what the result will be. This is true for basically every process in the universe. As Carl Sagan once said " The world as you see it is what happens when you give hydrogen atoms 13.7 billion years time"
evolution isnt random, and our brains are probably the least random thing in the universe. They are tools that have been honed and shaped by trial and error for millions of years, geared toward percieving as accurate a picture of reality as possible. We trust it because it would not be here otherwise, and we have little choice in the matter anyway. You either trust the one thing you have to even make the decision, or you dont.
So the original argument is from Pascal (same guy as Pascal's Wager) who said that we cannot trust human logic so we must trust the bible. Of course such an argument is based on human logic, so itself cannot be trusted (a point Pascal seems to ignore).
And I actually have heard this argument a few times but only pointed out that one individual.
Also, you use the word "atheist" when you mean to say "a person who accepts evolution", as the pope is not an atheist yet he accepts evolution.
You're right about the atheist/darwinian evolutionist mix-up. The wikipedia article you sent me where you got the original argument was only about pascal's wager. Anyway, you never addressed the question posed in the video: "when have you trusted in the product of a random event?"
@miggetymike1 Everytime a random events occurs (e.g.: when a meet someonw by chance, when a natural disaster occurs, when I play cards and I won or lose). We all trust the truth, be it random or not.
I don't know why no one has pointed out that nothing is inherently random; some things are just to hard to predict without advanced techniques. If someone rolls a die, and you know the forces, masses, and initial conditions, with the correct approach you should be able to tell exactly what the result will be. This is true for basically every process in the universe. As Carl Sagan once said " The world as you see it is what happens when you give hydrogen atoms 13.7 billion years time"
floyd316 1 year ago
You dont trust the lottery before the numbers are drawn, but afterwards you do.
racastilho 1 year ago
So what's the real argument?
noobyfromhell 2 years ago
evolution isnt random, and our brains are probably the least random thing in the universe. They are tools that have been honed and shaped by trial and error for millions of years, geared toward percieving as accurate a picture of reality as possible. We trust it because it would not be here otherwise, and we have little choice in the matter anyway. You either trust the one thing you have to even make the decision, or you dont.
Staunts 2 years ago
So the original argument is from Pascal (same guy as Pascal's Wager) who said that we cannot trust human logic so we must trust the bible. Of course such an argument is based on human logic, so itself cannot be trusted (a point Pascal seems to ignore).
And I actually have heard this argument a few times but only pointed out that one individual.
Also, you use the word "atheist" when you mean to say "a person who accepts evolution", as the pope is not an atheist yet he accepts evolution.
cdk007 2 years ago
The pope accepts evolution? Sweet, I didn't know that. Have any sources? :D
Dhesyca 2 years ago
You're right about the atheist/darwinian evolutionist mix-up. The wikipedia article you sent me where you got the original argument was only about pascal's wager. Anyway, you never addressed the question posed in the video: "when have you trusted in the product of a random event?"
miggetymike1 2 years ago
@miggetymike1 Everytime a random events occurs (e.g.: when a meet someonw by chance, when a natural disaster occurs, when I play cards and I won or lose). We all trust the truth, be it random or not.
racastilho 1 year ago
@cdk007 Pope is theist not atheist
eulex10 1 year ago