To anyone wondering where this was filmed it was live at El Macondo in Los Angeles, in 1993. There are other clips of more of the songs here on YouTube.
how stupid. you dress that way and yet you yell at people for whistling at you? its a compiment stupid ass. I FUCKIGN hate feminism with all my heart, but i love this band,(I know oxymoron). Feminism is retarted. Everyone is equal if people act a stupid way or do stupid things thats their problem. Attack the media instead of the people who are affected by it. Fuck feminism in the ass. BTW she is fucking sexy
@IATIKa0tiC Maybe she doesn't dress that way for your viewing pleasure. Maybe she dresses that way for herself. Maybe she could care less about your whistles or compliments. She also wasn't angry with that audience member for whistling (come on you can't hear whistling at a concert). She asked the photographer not to photograph her ass three times, yet her wishes were continuously disrespected. And she wouldn't cross the street to spit on you pig.
@IATIKa0tiC A radical feminist believes that equality for women has not been achieved, and believe that in order for it to be achieved then the patriarchy must be dismantled, and not replaced with a matriarchy but with equally distributed power....they don't hate men, it's just a logical argument. But you'll reply with ~~lawl equality has been achieved, feminists just don't get fucked enough and are uptight bitches~~~~~ despite not educating yourself on it.
@sonetlumiere12345678 The idea (I presume) is that she can and should wear whatever the heck she wants without feeling less human (i.e. sexually objectified) by straight males. Her experience isn't defined by men.
OK - for all the "girls cant strip, cant show aggressive sexuality, etc etc" wish-you-were-feminists in the crowd. Fuck you.
What Kathleen is doing here is a FAR fucking cry from stripping for dollars in a strip joint. If she wants to show her chubby ass then kick some guys in the face for hooting - that's great; it's her choice, it's funny, it's poorly planed, it's liberating, it's violent, and is in all other ways everything a girl should do in order to stop thinking like you prude twits.
the point is she should be able to strip down to her underwear and jump around if she fucking feels like it because its freeing!! Its about the choice and you saying that women cannot do that says that you are the one who is constrained by society and man law!! it is YOU the viewer who is labeling the woman a piece of meat ,as long as dumb shit people say something is wrong or shouldn't be able to be done us real free thinkers will continue to do it until the judgment subsides
Being a stripper can be thought of as a reclamation of autonomy over one's body and a reappropriation of a profession that has in the past upheld misogyny and turn it into one that empowers and celebrates women. That may be a difficult challenge, but you have no right to judge anyone for their own personal life choices. Particularly when you haven't even a basic understanding of feminist principals.
@GrockJake Your response reeks of slut-shaming and whore-hating, revealing that you have little idea of what being riot grrrl is fundamentally about. Women have the power to choose what they want to do with their own bodies, and no one has the right to judge them or shame them over the choices they make. The fact that society as a whole has objectified and fetishized the female body shouldn't mean that a woman cannot react against this oppression and embrace her own body without feeling ashamed
@canarypaperback Just shut the fuck up, PLEASE. Just shut up. Quite frankly, I don't care what a female chooses to do with her body. I'm pro-choice, and it's none of my business. If she wants to sell out her body, that's none of my business. However, feminism and stripping do NOT go hand in hand. I think even Kathleen Hanna has acknowledged this and realized how stupid it was. Watch this: watch?v=xWO4JnP2T40. "I was going to have to strip in front of a hardcore band that I just explained [...]".
@canarypaperback Stripping is degradation of women in the eyes of men. I thought feminists were seeking equality? Stripping and using yourself as eye candy is making you nothing more than an object in the eye of the people. You're not a person, you're a slab of meat they pay to dance in front of them. It's selfish. There is no respect for women as a whole. It's soley "me, me, me. how can i make money? how can i make a living", with no regards to what it's doing to the entire group.
@canarypaperback It should also be noted that most women don't want to be doing things like prostitution and stripping, it's usually a last resort- something to fall back on with no other options. Strippers, prostitutes- they aren't even independent. Behind most of them is either a pimp or the manager of the strip club. The manager and pimp are the ones in control of them. A feminist wants independence? Work for a high ranking job where there is no puppet master above you.
@canarypaperback in modern society stripping down to your underwear in public is out of the norm. it's not really that hard to grasp. let alone stripping completely. you're not reclaiming shit, you're just buying in to the male domination and profitting from it. bikini kill were always calculated, stripping to your underwear is a more interesting photo than not. saying "no" at that point when photos are taken? THAT's the whoring.
Um, the dickhead photographing her was taking pictures of her ass for his fucking sexual pleasure.
That's different than videotaping a show.
She asked him three fucking times.
Like she said, if you ask somebody not to photograph you three times, and they still insist on doing so, that's not a bitchy thing to do. Pretty reasonable if I say so myself.
@sporko17 I love Kathleen. I think she's great. But you know what? At times her & 'riot grrrl' often were hypocritical. Point & case: Kathleen used to be an exotic dancer, stripping in front of other men for their pleasure. Chances are, after she got done telling that guy off who the people are claiming "was taking pictures of her ass", she went to go strip for some guys at the club.
That's absolutely true, but I think whether or not she was hypocritical is debatable.
There were a LOT of Riot Grrrls who were strippers. At one point, it was like they all thought it was the ideal job. I can't read Kathleen's mind on this but I do know what some other Riot Grrrls said:
They'd be objectified either way. They felt like they were tricking the men by PROFITING off their horniness, and paying bills.
Difference? That guy wasn't paying, and had no permission.
@sporko17 If that's the case, then I only think less of 'riot grrrl' now. "Let's complain about things, but since we can't change them, let's just conform to them". A true riot grrrl wouln't of stripped, and instead would've fought being objectified. Shame on them. Also- her being hyprocritical is NOT debatable. Complaining about being objectified, then conforming to it? For money? Not only does that scream hypocrite, it screams whore.
@GrockJake I guess it would depend on your values. Obviously they don't have a direct problem with objectification in that senseI didn't mean that it was the main issue, merely that they saw no reason not to. Furthermore, they felt it was about power. I can't force you to respect strippers, either way.But anyway. It's about choice. OBVIOUSLY, with Riot Grrrls, the didn't feel like they shouldn't expose their bodies. It's just equality. "Dare you to do what you want, dare you to be who you will."
She can always coax some mindless hoots from her adoring sycophants. Humans on planet Earth don't jump around on stage only in their underwear without capturing attention...especially from a zine photographer looking to document the moment.
Then she plays the "white boy" card. She called me and my friends "white boys" in St Paul back in '93 -- because he *gasp* asked me if they were any good or not. She heard about 10% of the conversation then went on a similar retarded hoot-inducing rant.
Kathleen Hanna was an effective provocateur. Probably still is.
briteness 1 month ago
To anyone wondering where this was filmed it was live at El Macondo in Los Angeles, in 1993. There are other clips of more of the songs here on YouTube.
nathanjamesbaker 5 months ago
how stupid. you dress that way and yet you yell at people for whistling at you? its a compiment stupid ass. I FUCKIGN hate feminism with all my heart, but i love this band,(I know oxymoron). Feminism is retarted. Everyone is equal if people act a stupid way or do stupid things thats their problem. Attack the media instead of the people who are affected by it. Fuck feminism in the ass. BTW she is fucking sexy
IATIKa0tiC 6 months ago
@IATIKa0tiC Maybe she doesn't dress that way for your viewing pleasure. Maybe she dresses that way for herself. Maybe she could care less about your whistles or compliments. She also wasn't angry with that audience member for whistling (come on you can't hear whistling at a concert). She asked the photographer not to photograph her ass three times, yet her wishes were continuously disrespected. And she wouldn't cross the street to spit on you pig.
whyieyesyadonpiano 5 months ago
@IATIKa0tiC Go look up 'objectification' ya twit.
DiOiCases 4 months ago
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notpetra 2 months ago
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notpetra 2 months ago
@IATIKa0tiC You're a complete fool. I like how you use retarded as an insult but then say everyone is equal.
notpetra 2 months ago
@notpetra fuck radical feminists though
IATIKa0tiC 2 months ago
@IATIKa0tiC A radical feminist believes that equality for women has not been achieved, and believe that in order for it to be achieved then the patriarchy must be dismantled, and not replaced with a matriarchy but with equally distributed power....they don't hate men, it's just a logical argument. But you'll reply with ~~lawl equality has been achieved, feminists just don't get fucked enough and are uptight bitches~~~~~ despite not educating yourself on it.
notpetra 2 months ago
She is sexy as fuck!!!
IATIKa0tiC 6 months ago
I love it but I don't get it. Protesting sexism by dancing around half naked (and looking really sexy) They look and sound fantastic though. .
sonetlumiere12345678 6 months ago
@sonetlumiere12345678 The idea (I presume) is that she can and should wear whatever the heck she wants without feeling less human (i.e. sexually objectified) by straight males. Her experience isn't defined by men.
DiOiCases 4 months ago
Money is wasted on those born into it always expressing themselves these artistic rich kids
tarbethia 7 months ago
OK - for all the "girls cant strip, cant show aggressive sexuality, etc etc" wish-you-were-feminists in the crowd. Fuck you.
What Kathleen is doing here is a FAR fucking cry from stripping for dollars in a strip joint. If she wants to show her chubby ass then kick some guys in the face for hooting - that's great; it's her choice, it's funny, it's poorly planed, it's liberating, it's violent, and is in all other ways everything a girl should do in order to stop thinking like you prude twits.
mollyjeorgensen 10 months ago 12
the point is she should be able to strip down to her underwear and jump around if she fucking feels like it because its freeing!! Its about the choice and you saying that women cannot do that says that you are the one who is constrained by society and man law!! it is YOU the viewer who is labeling the woman a piece of meat ,as long as dumb shit people say something is wrong or shouldn't be able to be done us real free thinkers will continue to do it until the judgment subsides
scamberdawn 10 months ago 5
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ohfoxy89ladi 11 months ago
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I wonder why it's sexist to have a band that supports equal rights if it's all men?... what about male rights?......
ChromaticDeathVox 1 year ago
wtf is she doing wearing granny panties?!!?!? where the fuck is the thong?!!??!!?
haha let the hate comments roll in.
joememas 1 year ago
I'm a fan of Bikini Kill but I'm a bigger fan of Kathleen Hanna's ass, Oh lord get on me.
mothbits 1 year ago
Being a stripper can be thought of as a reclamation of autonomy over one's body and a reappropriation of a profession that has in the past upheld misogyny and turn it into one that empowers and celebrates women. That may be a difficult challenge, but you have no right to judge anyone for their own personal life choices. Particularly when you haven't even a basic understanding of feminist principals.
canarypaperback 1 year ago
@GrockJake Your response reeks of slut-shaming and whore-hating, revealing that you have little idea of what being riot grrrl is fundamentally about. Women have the power to choose what they want to do with their own bodies, and no one has the right to judge them or shame them over the choices they make. The fact that society as a whole has objectified and fetishized the female body shouldn't mean that a woman cannot react against this oppression and embrace her own body without feeling ashamed
canarypaperback 1 year ago
@canarypaperback Just shut the fuck up, PLEASE. Just shut up. Quite frankly, I don't care what a female chooses to do with her body. I'm pro-choice, and it's none of my business. If she wants to sell out her body, that's none of my business. However, feminism and stripping do NOT go hand in hand. I think even Kathleen Hanna has acknowledged this and realized how stupid it was. Watch this: watch?v=xWO4JnP2T40. "I was going to have to strip in front of a hardcore band that I just explained [...]".
GrockJake 1 year ago
@canarypaperback Stripping is degradation of women in the eyes of men. I thought feminists were seeking equality? Stripping and using yourself as eye candy is making you nothing more than an object in the eye of the people. You're not a person, you're a slab of meat they pay to dance in front of them. It's selfish. There is no respect for women as a whole. It's soley "me, me, me. how can i make money? how can i make a living", with no regards to what it's doing to the entire group.
GrockJake 1 year ago
@canarypaperback It should also be noted that most women don't want to be doing things like prostitution and stripping, it's usually a last resort- something to fall back on with no other options. Strippers, prostitutes- they aren't even independent. Behind most of them is either a pimp or the manager of the strip club. The manager and pimp are the ones in control of them. A feminist wants independence? Work for a high ranking job where there is no puppet master above you.
GrockJake 1 year ago
@canarypaperback in modern society stripping down to your underwear in public is out of the norm. it's not really that hard to grasp. let alone stripping completely. you're not reclaiming shit, you're just buying in to the male domination and profitting from it. bikini kill were always calculated, stripping to your underwear is a more interesting photo than not. saying "no" at that point when photos are taken? THAT's the whoring.
frottery 1 year ago
@sellingmypokecards
Um, the dickhead photographing her was taking pictures of her ass for his fucking sexual pleasure.
That's different than videotaping a show.
She asked him three fucking times.
Like she said, if you ask somebody not to photograph you three times, and they still insist on doing so, that's not a bitchy thing to do. Pretty reasonable if I say so myself.
That guy was an asshole.
sporko17 1 year ago
huge undies. fat ass.
1stuy 1 year ago
She kind of killed the buzz with that little rant at the end of the song... didn't she?
GrockJake 1 year ago
@GrockJake
She didn't kill the buzz.
Speaking out against assholes like that are exactly what the Riot Grrl movement was about.
Without that, it's pointless.
She was fucking pissed. She had a right to be, and no reason to stay silent and let him get off scot-free.
sporko17 1 year ago
@sporko17 I love Kathleen. I think she's great. But you know what? At times her & 'riot grrrl' often were hypocritical. Point & case: Kathleen used to be an exotic dancer, stripping in front of other men for their pleasure. Chances are, after she got done telling that guy off who the people are claiming "was taking pictures of her ass", she went to go strip for some guys at the club.
GrockJake 1 year ago
@GrockJake
That's absolutely true, but I think whether or not she was hypocritical is debatable.
There were a LOT of Riot Grrrls who were strippers. At one point, it was like they all thought it was the ideal job. I can't read Kathleen's mind on this but I do know what some other Riot Grrrls said:
They'd be objectified either way. They felt like they were tricking the men by PROFITING off their horniness, and paying bills.
Difference? That guy wasn't paying, and had no permission.
sporko17 1 year ago
@sporko17 If that's the case, then I only think less of 'riot grrrl' now. "Let's complain about things, but since we can't change them, let's just conform to them". A true riot grrrl wouln't of stripped, and instead would've fought being objectified. Shame on them. Also- her being hyprocritical is NOT debatable. Complaining about being objectified, then conforming to it? For money? Not only does that scream hypocrite, it screams whore.
GrockJake 1 year ago
@GrockJake I guess it would depend on your values. Obviously they don't have a direct problem with objectification in that senseI didn't mean that it was the main issue, merely that they saw no reason not to. Furthermore, they felt it was about power. I can't force you to respect strippers, either way.But anyway. It's about choice. OBVIOUSLY, with Riot Grrrls, the didn't feel like they shouldn't expose their bodies. It's just equality. "Dare you to do what you want, dare you to be who you will."
sporko17 1 year ago
Shit. Actually, I adore the hell out of this woman. She is one of my heroes. Her voice, her lyrics, her mind, her fury... all that fun stuff.
But sellingmypokecards and budhalen... they got really good points.
Shit.
Krakshot 1 year ago
She can always coax some mindless hoots from her adoring sycophants. Humans on planet Earth don't jump around on stage only in their underwear without capturing attention...especially from a zine photographer looking to document the moment.
Then she plays the "white boy" card. She called me and my friends "white boys" in St Paul back in '93 -- because he *gasp* asked me if they were any good or not. She heard about 10% of the conversation then went on a similar retarded hoot-inducing rant.
budhalen 1 year ago
Bikini Kill rules, totally ass kicking punk with rrriot attitude. Totally excellent!
KrisseSydan 1 year ago
Wait, naked chicks? Fuck, I wish I had been born earlier.
(inb4 male chauvinist pig, I'm a woman)
Nadesiko04 1 year ago
this is sugar
lenora98 2 years ago 2
I love Bikini Kill! One of my top 3 fav punk bands. There's never been a female lead singer as good as her.
holidaysin 2 years ago 9
@holidaysin nope nope there is the one that was their inspiration "Joan Jett " =)
cuteNADA1992 1 year ago
@cuteNADA1992 Sorry I like Kathleen better than Joan still
holidaysin 1 year ago
These girls kick ass!
jms6959 2 years ago 5
I think that was Adrock taking those pics
seany722 2 years ago 4
omg bikini kill iz so awesome i fken love how she handled that fken sweet
Zacoska 2 years ago