Yes, these trains are slow on the surface streets. Except for stretches of the J and M lines on the surface and in subway tunnels the trains have to share space with autos, busses, pedestrians and cyclists as well as stop at signs and stop lights and slow down at switches. It is the only large city I have ever been where they run modern trains but without dedicated right of ways. They should all be put underground so you could truly get around this city quickly and efficiently.
Those of you stating that the LRVs are "slow" obviously have never been on the cars when they are in the "outer" stretches of their lines such as on the L on the Avenues from 19th to 46th or the M on 19th Ave (where the drivers may hit it to 50mph between Stonestown and San Francisco State Univ) and in Oceanview or the N from 9th and Judah out to the Beach.
I've been in the areas along those lines and I can assure that the trains are NOT being ran "slow" by the operators there!
Nice footage, great to see things are still as they were when I lived in The City. Of course, the streetcars are different. I used to shoot stills, back in the 80s, of PCCs and Boeing LRVs.
In Hong Kong, we have trams or LRV (Light Rail Vehicle) similar to the ones in San Francisco and they run above ground. They move way faster even when having to share their lanes with other traffic on the streets. Maybe the MUNI ones are heavier and not easy to brake. Hence, the drivers are being extremely cautious and thus slow when operating on the street leve. Maybe...
Yes, these trains are slow on the surface streets. Except for stretches of the J and M lines on the surface and in subway tunnels the trains have to share space with autos, busses, pedestrians and cyclists as well as stop at signs and stop lights and slow down at switches. It is the only large city I have ever been where they run modern trains but without dedicated right of ways. They should all be put underground so you could truly get around this city quickly and efficiently.
MrStevenjv 5 months ago
Those of you stating that the LRVs are "slow" obviously have never been on the cars when they are in the "outer" stretches of their lines such as on the L on the Avenues from 19th to 46th or the M on 19th Ave (where the drivers may hit it to 50mph between Stonestown and San Francisco State Univ) and in Oceanview or the N from 9th and Judah out to the Beach.
I've been in the areas along those lines and I can assure that the trains are NOT being ran "slow" by the operators there!
lukebccb 1 year ago
exciting video
baxtax22 2 years ago
Nice footage, great to see things are still as they were when I lived in The City. Of course, the streetcars are different. I used to shoot stills, back in the 80s, of PCCs and Boeing LRVs.
NobHillBorn 2 years ago
they are nice but a bit slow....really slow!!
jemdude22 2 years ago
@jemdude22 It's only slow Aboveground. Underground it's really fast
astrotrain53 2 years ago
In Hong Kong, we have trams or LRV (Light Rail Vehicle) similar to the ones in San Francisco and they run above ground. They move way faster even when having to share their lanes with other traffic on the streets. Maybe the MUNI ones are heavier and not easy to brake. Hence, the drivers are being extremely cautious and thus slow when operating on the street leve. Maybe...
jemdude22 2 years ago
@jemdude22 the muni metro trains also do have some braking problems which is why they run relatively slowly.
Eviltaco375 1 year ago
if you go to San Francisco, and call The City "Frisco", you'll make no friends!
To quote Ogden Nash, "May I be boiled in oil
and fried in Crisco if I ever call San Francisco 'Frisco' "
ebtmikado 2 years ago
@ebtmikado Comment pending approval!
MrTroydninja 2 months ago
I haven't been to Frisco in years. The last time I was out there in 1962 they had some strange looking streetcars that looked like buses.
denny906 2 years ago
Sorry, not now. But if you'd be so kind as to pay my train fare to San Francisco, I'd be happy to shoot more :o)
ebtmikado 3 years ago
oh i thought you lived in san francisco lol
tyronewright64 3 years ago
do you have any more muni videos coming
tyronewright64 3 years ago
Nice filming
ervans 3 years ago