Большое спасибо за замечательное исполнение, мазурочно-солнечно искристое и акварельное, очень непосредственное без всякой аффектации (чем, порой, страдают исполнители Шопена)
The way you take liberties with the pieces is very delightful, and this is what matters, I think. Taking liberties might be "dangerous" for those who're not gifted with a splendid musical taste and intention, unlike you.
I heard a lot of interpretations and can say this one here is far from being boring and far from being out of chopins style. The treatment as a mazurka was often also an idea Cortot used. What is important elegance and intelligence is absolutely present here....
Your knowledge is only exceeded by your interpretation which is proven by your powerful yet graceful execution. Our hearts skip a beat while we listen to your unique and very personal interpretation. Thank you for all you do. It is a wonder to have heard you and to hear from you.
Awesome playing - so intense. I remember a story Harold Schoenberg "invented", he said he (Harold) had wondered why Chopin did not publish this waltz and had reached the conclusion, that Chopin sat night after night in Wiener-etablissements and wondered why the Wieners applaused these simple waltzes so much (there are traces of that attitude in some correspondence). So he became a little annoyed and thought of making a parody - ländler plus sugar - and realized it wasn't that bad - liked it :)
Hi Truecrypt,...I listened again to the first one,.. very nice.....totally agree with you that a little freedom is allowable....this type of freedom was part and parcel of the great golden era pianists......those that did it with taste are admired for it today......
You also do it here with great taste....I noticed you lengthened the first quaver
of the second beat and shortened the next...none of my editions actually show this,.....
Dear Truecrypt, I don't think the middle one comes across like a Mazurka here...
I agree about Polish flavour being in the background of most of Chopin,even when
written in the French,Viennese or Italian style.You played the middle one with a nice Polish feel,but it does not come across overtly like a Mazurka......to do that,it would have the instantly recognisable Mazurka syncopation,wouldn't it?
You're correct - there is no trace of mazurka in No. 2 but argument was about first waltz (Op. 70, No. 1).
I do play entrance and coda there with kind of mazurka flair and feel it can be done so. Whether it was true Chopin intention or not - who knows... Life would be too boring if we knew all answers! Well... I deserve a little freedom of expression too. I'm sure Chopin would forgive me if I was wrong! ;)
@truecrypt if you listen to Cortots lectures you can find also this idea of seeing some parts of the valses as Mazurkas. Never heard this 70/1 so convincing.... So you are right to choose these liberites; Chopin himself did a lot of liberties on these valses as he changed often version.... as Chopins way of interpretation was still very alive in Paris and transmitted by generations I think Cortot got some good ideas specially on these valses.
In the Henle edition, both versions of 70 no. 1 (autograph and Fontana version) are printed... however it seems that some of the later ornaments are missing in this autograph? Anyway, your rendering of the "Valzurek" is charming! ;-)
And what is "the waltz form"? ONE-two-three, ONE-two-three? ;)
Preludes Op. 28 were written during the same period too.... Should we perform them as "salon pieces" composed within that time frame"? I'm afraid your idea of Chopin's style is somewhat simplistic...
The manuscript clearly shows the rhythm of mazurka! Either Editors or Chopin himself changed this pattern in later editions, but original composer's intention is pretty clear to me. I don't see much danger here ;)
Though these 3 waltzes published under Op. 70, they are not a "set"... it just happened that they were "assembled" this way as posthumous opus. As for f/As - I really don't care - "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet ".
There is a clear indication of mazurka rhythm pattern in Chopin's manuscript. In later editions it was "smoothed down" to more savorless variant, but I like rather sharp contrast between mazurka-like dance and actual waltz in the middle.
As for Op. 70, No. 2 - f-moll or As-dur... Some consider it F-minor, others A-flat major. IMSLP labels it as A-flat/F, Pianopedia - A-flat major... I give up! ;)
Great interpretation. Your rubato is exquisite. No pathos but feelings and subtelty. And your sound is definitely uncommon. The first two pieces are worthier than many others I've heard. The third one gets perhaps a little lost in resonances on the forte passages, and I tend to lose the purpose there. But this might reflect onluy my own taste.
the 2nd Waltz (which I once played, badly) reminds me of a little theory I have, that F minor is for Chopin what C minor is for Beethoven. There is something aristocratic and rarefied about this key, in which so many of Chopin's most beautiful compositions are written. And the parallel Major key, A flat, is also a big favourite of his
Hi "Andre". I congratulate you on your interpretations here, making these pieces more interesting than I have usually found them myself (I usually find myself playing the ealier waltzes mostly). Op 70 #1 is a very friendly performance with a thoughtful interlude, and #2 leaves me with a sense of someone exploring his own memories and the rubato and changes in tempo highlight that sense. #3 sounds like a conversation in a salon. I'm happy with the musicality.
Lovely! A nice balance between lyric-poetic and rhythmic elements in these pieces...I love the way you made the first one, especially, sound so Polish! I liked your rubato and subtle shadings in the LH, and how you made them sparkle and dance, giving these familiar pieces an invigorating freshness!
All three are sublime - Bravo - you hit that area somewhere between 'elevated' and 'earthy' that is, for me, is the very heart of Chopin. What great performances! Again.
great, as usual..
acortot 3 weeks ago
Mazurka-Waltz-schmaltz, who cares? It's beautiful music played beautifully.
GerryRains1946 1 month ago
Beautiful and interesting playing as well. I have a great respect for this guy, he is
a living proof of of excelent (probably older) Russian piano teaching. I am just puzzled why he didn´t (?) make any recordings - I would by them all!
TheHanslick 5 months ago
A very nice, interesting and musical performance!
Congratulations,
Geert Dehoux, pianist.
PS. What is your real name, please ? Thanks.
geertdehoux 6 months ago
A very nice, interesting and musical performance!
Congratulations,
Geert Dehoux, pianist.
geertdehoux 6 months ago
This is the most original playing of the Waltzes I have ever heard. Such gentle elegance combined with deeply idiomatic feeling. Merci beacoup!
LoverOfDebussy 6 months ago
Очень красивое исполнене, спосибо!
DERFNAM72 6 months ago
Большое спасибо за Ваш канал- чистый источник светлой радости даже в страданиях.
OhNatali 6 months ago
Большое спасибо за замечательное исполнение, мазурочно-солнечно искристое и акварельное, очень непосредственное без всякой аффектации (чем, порой, страдают исполнители Шопена)
СПАСИБО за удовольствие
OhNatali 6 months ago
i like your playing of these waltzes . its like champagner and it should be like it!
klausknulp 6 months ago
The way you take liberties with the pieces is very delightful, and this is what matters, I think. Taking liberties might be "dangerous" for those who're not gifted with a splendid musical taste and intention, unlike you.
animumaurarium 6 months ago
I heard a lot of interpretations and can say this one here is far from being boring and far from being out of chopins style. The treatment as a mazurka was often also an idea Cortot used. What is important elegance and intelligence is absolutely present here....
uhartchristian 8 months ago
I want to listen to you live!
newFranzFerencLiszt 8 months ago
Your knowledge is only exceeded by your interpretation which is proven by your powerful yet graceful execution. Our hearts skip a beat while we listen to your unique and very personal interpretation. Thank you for all you do. It is a wonder to have heard you and to hear from you.
wildejag 9 months ago
Awesome playing - so intense. I remember a story Harold Schoenberg "invented", he said he (Harold) had wondered why Chopin did not publish this waltz and had reached the conclusion, that Chopin sat night after night in Wiener-etablissements and wondered why the Wieners applaused these simple waltzes so much (there are traces of that attitude in some correspondence). So he became a little annoyed and thought of making a parody - ländler plus sugar - and realized it wasn't that bad - liked it :)
AlfaAxel 10 months ago
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AlfaAxel 10 months ago
Beautiful playing as always ! Thanks again !!
:-))
cygnusne 10 months ago
COOL!!!
cuoylyf 11 months ago
I'm playing the first waltz in g flat major for my exam and your interpretation was different from any i've heard. great insperation!
MsFloopdedoop 1 year ago
Hi Truecrypt,...I listened again to the first one,.. very nice.....totally agree with you that a little freedom is allowable....this type of freedom was part and parcel of the great golden era pianists......those that did it with taste are admired for it today......
You also do it here with great taste....I noticed you lengthened the first quaver
of the second beat and shortened the next...none of my editions actually show this,.....
flugelmaniac 1 year ago
Dear Truecrypt, I don't think the middle one comes across like a Mazurka here...
I agree about Polish flavour being in the background of most of Chopin,even when
written in the French,Viennese or Italian style.You played the middle one with a nice Polish feel,but it does not come across overtly like a Mazurka......to do that,it would have the instantly recognisable Mazurka syncopation,wouldn't it?
Very nice playing ,thank you!
flugelmaniac 1 year ago
@flugelmaniac
You're correct - there is no trace of mazurka in No. 2 but argument was about first waltz (Op. 70, No. 1).
I do play entrance and coda there with kind of mazurka flair and feel it can be done so. Whether it was true Chopin intention or not - who knows... Life would be too boring if we knew all answers! Well... I deserve a little freedom of expression too. I'm sure Chopin would forgive me if I was wrong! ;)
truecrypt 1 year ago 3
@truecrypt ..totally agree with you
flugelmaniac 1 year ago
@truecrypt if you listen to Cortots lectures you can find also this idea of seeing some parts of the valses as Mazurkas. Never heard this 70/1 so convincing.... So you are right to choose these liberites; Chopin himself did a lot of liberties on these valses as he changed often version.... as Chopins way of interpretation was still very alive in Paris and transmitted by generations I think Cortot got some good ideas specially on these valses.
For me you are absolutely " in style"....
uhartchristian 6 months ago
@flugelmaniac
Interesting, your comment.
But, with all respect, I think the 'music itself' should prevail.
If the composer wrote the word 'Waltz' or 'Mazurka', does it really mean so much ?
A cordial greeting,
Geert Dehoux, pianist.
geertdehoux 6 months ago
In the Henle edition, both versions of 70 no. 1 (autograph and Fontana version) are printed... however it seems that some of the later ornaments are missing in this autograph? Anyway, your rendering of the "Valzurek" is charming! ;-)
pianopera 1 year ago
I think this 'op.70-1' is performed with 'Oxford University Press' edition.
Because it was a rhythm to which it listened for the first time, I looked over it.
Generally, there are a lot of performances by the Fontana edition,
so I think it is good there is a disclaimer like understanding with the performance in the oxford edition.
chrismontis 1 year ago
Beautiful playing!!! The notes paint a picture. It's nice to know that you also play piano besides uploading piano videos. :)
azppiano 1 year ago 2
I think that his mind was always in Poland.
But, his style is a graceful style to make the aristocrat in France listen.
op.70-1 was Composed in 1835,It seems that it is written to play it by the salon as a waltz if composed within that time frame.
If so, it is necessary to play it by the waltz form.
chrismontis 1 year ago
@chrismontis
And what is "the waltz form"? ONE-two-three, ONE-two-three? ;)
Preludes Op. 28 were written during the same period too.... Should we perform them as "salon pieces" composed within that time frame"? I'm afraid your idea of Chopin's style is somewhat simplistic...
truecrypt 1 year ago
It was published by original "Three waltzs" prepared under the supervision of Fontana when postmortem of Chopin.
chrismontis 1 year ago
This performance(op.70-1) is performed by a rhythm different from the content of the score.
Even if it is a mazurka style, it is still waltz If Chopin composed as a waltz.
Though it is a good performance ･･･ A performance different from the score is dangerous.
op.70-2...On 'ChopinMusic',it is f moll.
I think that f moll is more natural when thinking about this 'op.70' by the set of 3 consists.
By the way,I was at music college's student...it was posted by f moll as one of a set piece lol
chrismontis 1 year ago
@chrismontis
The manuscript clearly shows the rhythm of mazurka! Either Editors or Chopin himself changed this pattern in later editions, but original composer's intention is pretty clear to me. I don't see much danger here ;)
Though these 3 waltzes published under Op. 70, they are not a "set"... it just happened that they were "assembled" this way as posthumous opus. As for f/As - I really don't care - "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet ".
truecrypt 1 year ago
I feel that this player is performing by an interpretation near the mazurka.
Was a new research done though Op.70-2 was generally 'f moll'?
chrismontis 1 year ago
@chrismontis
There is a clear indication of mazurka rhythm pattern in Chopin's manuscript. In later editions it was "smoothed down" to more savorless variant, but I like rather sharp contrast between mazurka-like dance and actual waltz in the middle.
As for Op. 70, No. 2 - f-moll or As-dur... Some consider it F-minor, others A-flat major. IMSLP labels it as A-flat/F, Pianopedia - A-flat major... I give up! ;)
truecrypt 1 year ago
Great interpretation. Your rubato is exquisite. No pathos but feelings and subtelty. And your sound is definitely uncommon. The first two pieces are worthier than many others I've heard. The third one gets perhaps a little lost in resonances on the forte passages, and I tend to lose the purpose there. But this might reflect onluy my own taste.
Some more?
kliban2007 1 year ago
Truecrypt! great stuff!
better than any 'famous' pianist I've heard in the last 30 years.
acortot 1 year ago
the 2nd Waltz (which I once played, badly) reminds me of a little theory I have, that F minor is for Chopin what C minor is for Beethoven. There is something aristocratic and rarefied about this key, in which so many of Chopin's most beautiful compositions are written. And the parallel Major key, A flat, is also a big favourite of his
punkpoetry 1 year ago
absolutely wonderful, thanks for the listening pleasure
punkpoetry 1 year ago
Great interpretations, very joyful and still very lyrical. Also great capricious rhythms in the first no. 1!
jaroslawilski 1 year ago
Sounds like a midi file-if not completely distorted
Bruce88keys 1 year ago
Love the first waltz! Love the references to mazurka rhythms! Thank you truecrypt.
ianchow107 1 year ago
Exquisite performances, André, especially the No.2. Thank you for sharing!
nikolaimedtner 1 year ago
I repeat: you're an excellent pianist.
LolloBlackGlamour 1 year ago
Hi "Andre". I congratulate you on your interpretations here, making these pieces more interesting than I have usually found them myself (I usually find myself playing the ealier waltzes mostly). Op 70 #1 is a very friendly performance with a thoughtful interlude, and #2 leaves me with a sense of someone exploring his own memories and the rubato and changes in tempo highlight that sense. #3 sounds like a conversation in a salon. I'm happy with the musicality.
jimsamman1 1 year ago
My God, this is wonderful! Please give us more.
dbharcadia2 1 year ago
Андрей, спасибо большущее за то, что поделились такой замечательной записью. ЗдОрово играете! А что за рояль? Качество записи отменное.
gromoglas77 1 year ago
eeeeeeee André! the no1 is very well played!
New4785689 1 year ago
wonderful!
xAmandine 1 year ago
Lovely! A nice balance between lyric-poetic and rhythmic elements in these pieces...I love the way you made the first one, especially, sound so Polish! I liked your rubato and subtle shadings in the LH, and how you made them sparkle and dance, giving these familiar pieces an invigorating freshness!
soami2u 1 year ago
Beautiful playing.
gerardbedecarter 1 year ago
Oh, this is as a breath of crisp winter air. The kind that makes one's cheeks rosy and smile bright.
foreverxeternity 1 year ago
Fresh, charming ... I'm smiling :-) Thank you so much!
oakroom48 1 year ago
All three are sublime - Bravo - you hit that area somewhere between 'elevated' and 'earthy' that is, for me, is the very heart of Chopin. What great performances! Again.
PhilPhilUSA 1 year ago
Wow! Very very beautiful, Truecrypt. Bravo! This playing makes me very happy!
GetMeThere1 1 year ago
You play so lively! Well done!
Sword1479 1 year ago