Sorry to be negative & I know you made this as a fun vid but I feel the explanation is quite incomplete to be worthy of the title. You only mention "lateral" (sideways) stylus movement but "vertical" (up/down) movement is just as important to explain. After that you'll then be able to discuss how both movements interact with each other to create stereophony & loudness. You were rocking the "cantilever" not the stylus on slow-down demo, so that is false info too. Peace & enjoy making beats.
it seems very stange hearing that kind of "music" from a vinyl record, sorry but i dont call that kind of stuf music, it just makes me want to smash my head in with a big hammer.
@TheFRiNgEguitars ehehehe.....love the cheeky comment!........I too have seen on the net so many Beatles nutters praising their heroes for multi-tracking & reversed sound. Innovators they were......inventors they were not.
Electromagnetism! The stylus has tiny magnets moving within coils of wire, the tiny current produced when they move is amplified to become a much more powerful version of the same electrical signal, then fed to the speakers, which themselves are worked by a large coil of wire moving past a large magnet, so the movement of the speaker cone is an exact copy of the movement of the stylus in the groove.
Doesn't the stylus go left, right, up, down? A tiny electrical current is generated via a magnet & coils inside the cartridge. This is sent along tiny wires in the arm, out of the record player and into an amplifier, where the current is -guess what- amplified to a level hefty enough to make cones vibrate in an almost direct copy of the original stylus vibrations. It is magic when you think about it!
The player stylus has two magnetic cores and fixed coils, arranged in an 90° angle towards each other. In the same angle, the waveforms in the record groove are arranged (in a V-groove, so each stereo channel is represented by a side of the groove). Depending on what movements the groove makes while it plays, one or two of the channels are provided with a signal (and every kind of difference between their levels, so a certain signal is provided either more into the left or the right channel).
sound IS a vibration. it's a vibration in the air. the air compresses and expands outwards from the source REALLY quickly. when the needle shakes around it sends that signal to the mixer.
you can hear it if you get close to the needle because as the needle shakes it vibrates the air around it
i realize that. i know how it works, it's just amazing that each vibration makes it's own individual sound that is translated back to us via vibration it causes on a needle which then goes to the mixer, then comes out exactly like it first happened. it's just one of those "wow" things in life that while the theory makes sense, it still seems amazing that it's so simple.
The 'magic' is all electromagnetism. Move a magnet past a coil of wire, and electrical current flows through the wire. This is how the microphone converts vibrations to electrical current, the record cutter converts it back to movement, the stylus makes it back to electricity, then the speakers make it back into movement!!
Hopefully if all mechanical and electronic things are designed well, then it still sounds like the original sound!!
@BigMilan .....absolutely correct! ALL sound is a mechanical process. It is cause by air movement. When you speak, that's a mechanical process. When you breathe in to speak, you are forcing air out of your mouth and throat, where your vocal cords are located. As air passes, the vocal cords vibrate, and what we hear is your own unique voice. With an LP, the stylus/cantilever assembly responds to the modulations in the record groove, sends signal to amplification system, and you have sound.
This explanation is not really focused. I think it was just a bit too sketchy ... what about cartridges ... or stereo reproduction (or quadrophonic sound for the hell of it, lol)?
you're right about the last part tho... just not all the way right. you're half right, like BigMilian is. you do cut one and press the rest, but its not vinyl.
Purely up and down is a bit misleading, yeah. It's at a 45º angle to the surface of the record. So it is somewhat vertical and somewhat horizontal...it's basically up and down, just rotated 45º on the horizontal plane.
Actually, the original recordings made by Edison weren't discs, they were cylinders and they WERE made of WAX. Vinyl hadn't been developed yet. Next came hard rubber cylinders, followed by rubber disks, followed by vinyl discs. Edison's original wax cylinders are housed in the Smithsonian.
Actually, the original recordings made by Edison weren't discs, they were cylinders made of WAX. Vinyl hadn't been developed yet. Next came hard rubber cylinders, followed by rubber disks, followed by vinyl discs. So, you were partially correct!
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LOL, once again im right your wrong, they werent wax idiot, if they were they wud melt at room temperature, they actually were made of aliminium foil, goto wikipedia and look up phonograph history, idiot.
1st, I don't correct people by calling them rude names. 2nd, I don't consider Wikipedia a scholarly resource, but here's what it says about wax cylinders: The phonograph was conceived by Thomas Edison for recording telephone messages, his first test using waxed paper. By the 1880s wax cylinders were mass marketed. These had sound recordings in the grooves on the outside of hollow cylinders of slightly soft wax. Hard carnauba wax replaced the mixture of paraffin and beeswax.
I agree mate . Is there anything more beautiful than hearing some of your favourite songs on vinyl . and the great thing is , they're great to watch as well . I often just stare at the disc as it spins and it seems like the singers are alive in the disc and singing straight at me . It's an aural and visual experience . You get nothing like this from CDs . Records and record players are just works of art . They should be treasured .
Don't forget the SMELL...actually, that was probably from the sleeve, but the SMELL...very nostalgic. Not exactly a "pretty smell" but very distinctive.
You know, a cool thing about records is that you COULD have used the screwdriver to play it. Well, maybe not that, but a knife tip or a paper edge works just fine :) Yes, it's not very nice to do that to a record but it's good to know (if your plane crashes in the middle of a jungle, and both you and your records survive, you can still play your favorite tunes :D)
This is true for a monophonic record, but stereo is another ball game. With stereo there is lateral movment of the stylus and verticle at the same time. And yes records are pressed but they have to be cut first and the cut is made into a metal plates through galvanics and then pressed. If you push a coin into somthing soft the coin pattern will come out opposite to the queens head say, will be imbost. So the galvanics also have to be a negative disk.
Hey Mr. submitter man, what'd you do with your rubber grip? That's the best part about the blue ortofon mounts. Buy blue so get the exclusive rubber grip, then get some other better sensitive stylus once your blue styli wear out (yellow nightclub spherical is excellent. All the rest either sucks or is marketing fluf/poo.)
Records were originally wax with a cone attached to a needle set heavy, as you talked into the cone the vibrations would transfer making the needle imprint them. Then set to light to play back the wax grooves.
Take a paper, shape it into a cone. Put it on the record instead of the needle and you will hear the music. :)
lol you have to write practice and enjoy on it first or it won't work! just kiddin I'll try to make a video but the camera is a little crazy. When I turn it on, to shutter opens and closes by itself.
I found it, your megaphone experiment failed lol oh well ive done something like this well all I had was a record player with no amp and i had an old phone and i somehow had to rig the record player t6o the phone it but i never did, I needed an amp, hell I wish i had my mini radio shack amp that i got now i got 2 of em
Sorry to be negative & I know you made this as a fun vid but I feel the explanation is quite incomplete to be worthy of the title. You only mention "lateral" (sideways) stylus movement but "vertical" (up/down) movement is just as important to explain. After that you'll then be able to discuss how both movements interact with each other to create stereophony & loudness. You were rocking the "cantilever" not the stylus on slow-down demo, so that is false info too. Peace & enjoy making beats.
emenveeuk 1 month ago
NICE! What record was that?
Thepillerofautom10 3 months ago
If only there was a way to make our own records. XD
jebug29 5 months ago
pretty cool man!
skizzarz 7 months ago
actually you can write vinyl music, you use something called a lathe
MRFRUITCAKE98 11 months ago
it seems very stange hearing that kind of "music" from a vinyl record, sorry but i dont call that kind of stuf music, it just makes me want to smash my head in with a big hammer.
CoolDudeClem 1 year ago
I still can't understand how a needle vibrating in a groove can convert into signal that creates......music? How was this discovered?
Alimantado91 1 year ago
everybody knows the Beatles discovered it, don't they?
TheFRiNgEguitars 1 year ago
@TheFRiNgEguitars ehehehe.....love the cheeky comment!........I too have seen on the net so many Beatles nutters praising their heroes for multi-tracking & reversed sound. Innovators they were......inventors they were not.
emenveeuk 1 month ago
@Alimantado91
Electromagnetism! The stylus has tiny magnets moving within coils of wire, the tiny current produced when they move is amplified to become a much more powerful version of the same electrical signal, then fed to the speakers, which themselves are worked by a large coil of wire moving past a large magnet, so the movement of the speaker cone is an exact copy of the movement of the stylus in the groove.
boo66 1 year ago
explaining this too fucking slow!
AlexanderSigal 1 year ago
i agree its very simple this brit knocker takes for fucking ever
johnnycakes8787 1 year ago
Doesn't the stylus go left, right, up, down? A tiny electrical current is generated via a magnet & coils inside the cartridge. This is sent along tiny wires in the arm, out of the record player and into an amplifier, where the current is -guess what- amplified to a level hefty enough to make cones vibrate in an almost direct copy of the original stylus vibrations. It is magic when you think about it!
MarkPMus 2 years ago 4
yea later i learned it goes up and down too :)
magic indeed :)
BigMilan 2 years ago
it goes up and down, right and left.
Crushstation 2 years ago
The player stylus has two magnetic cores and fixed coils, arranged in an 90° angle towards each other. In the same angle, the waveforms in the record groove are arranged (in a V-groove, so each stereo channel is represented by a side of the groove). Depending on what movements the groove makes while it plays, one or two of the channels are provided with a signal (and every kind of difference between their levels, so a certain signal is provided either more into the left or the right channel).
berndpfe 2 years ago 2
@MarkPMus
This is the stupidest video ever!
- Bassmaster970
Bassmaster970 10 months ago
Cool what that is
zimgold 2 years ago
they cut the groove onto the master, then use a hot press to actually mold the vinyl into a record.
i just don't understand how it turns those wave vibrations to music through the needle. it's like magic happens at that point
snowj420 2 years ago 6
sound IS a vibration. it's a vibration in the air. the air compresses and expands outwards from the source REALLY quickly. when the needle shakes around it sends that signal to the mixer.
you can hear it if you get close to the needle because as the needle shakes it vibrates the air around it
BigMilan 2 years ago
i realize that. i know how it works, it's just amazing that each vibration makes it's own individual sound that is translated back to us via vibration it causes on a needle which then goes to the mixer, then comes out exactly like it first happened. it's just one of those "wow" things in life that while the theory makes sense, it still seems amazing that it's so simple.
snowj420 2 years ago
@BigMilan
The 'magic' is all electromagnetism. Move a magnet past a coil of wire, and electrical current flows through the wire. This is how the microphone converts vibrations to electrical current, the record cutter converts it back to movement, the stylus makes it back to electricity, then the speakers make it back into movement!!
Hopefully if all mechanical and electronic things are designed well, then it still sounds like the original sound!!
boo66 1 year ago
@BigMilan .....absolutely correct! ALL sound is a mechanical process. It is cause by air movement. When you speak, that's a mechanical process. When you breathe in to speak, you are forcing air out of your mouth and throat, where your vocal cords are located. As air passes, the vocal cords vibrate, and what we hear is your own unique voice. With an LP, the stylus/cantilever assembly responds to the modulations in the record groove, sends signal to amplification system, and you have sound.
phantasm1004 8 months ago
Yea I reckn, It is like magic happpens aye.
ferdinand8112 2 years ago
What Vinyl Is That???
PLEZE
Noodle880 2 years ago 2
Yea I wanna know too!!
ferdinand8112 2 years ago
now I understand... thanks BigMilan...
YSLAMENTALS 2 years ago
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lewisldurham 3 years ago
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NOBODY GIVES A FUCK
1funnnydude 2 years ago
This explanation is not really focused. I think it was just a bit too sketchy ... what about cartridges ... or stereo reproduction (or quadrophonic sound for the hell of it, lol)?
julian7carter 3 years ago
they cut the vinyl not press idiot ...
DJEgin 3 years ago
cut then press, do you know how long it would take to cut 5000? a long fucking time. you cut one and press the rest.
~Knoxx "the little drunk" domino
Knoxdomino 3 years ago 6
you're right about the last part tho... just not all the way right. you're half right, like BigMilian is. you do cut one and press the rest, but its not vinyl.
xovertheyearsx 2 years ago
YOU SOD YOU TALK SHIT
3KATE33 3 years ago
please don't tell me that is a crass record, please don't!
diediedie999 3 years ago
It's not all left right, but also up and down...that's how it manages to be stereo.
rockgardenlove 3 years ago
Two two stereo channels are on the two sides of the groove. It has nothing to do with up and down.
RT83 3 years ago
Purely up and down is a bit misleading, yeah. It's at a 45º angle to the surface of the record. So it is somewhat vertical and somewhat horizontal...it's basically up and down, just rotated 45º on the horizontal plane.
rockgardenlove 3 years ago
He almost sound as stupid as ali g:P
DJJule88 3 years ago
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records are made of wax.........
julianfairbanks 3 years ago
you douche, if they were made of wax they wudnt be called VINYL!
and, if they were, then in the press they would melt and not hold in place when being pressed.
aff1993 3 years ago
j k i know
calm that down bro
julianfairbanks 3 years ago
Actually, the original recordings made by Edison weren't discs, they were cylinders and they WERE made of WAX. Vinyl hadn't been developed yet. Next came hard rubber cylinders, followed by rubber disks, followed by vinyl discs. Edison's original wax cylinders are housed in the Smithsonian.
d1o2n3k4e5y6s7 3 years ago
Actually, the original recordings made by Edison weren't discs, they were cylinders made of WAX. Vinyl hadn't been developed yet. Next came hard rubber cylinders, followed by rubber disks, followed by vinyl discs. So, you were partially correct!
d1o2n3k4e5y6s7 3 years ago 2
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LOL, once again im right your wrong, they werent wax idiot, if they were they wud melt at room temperature, they actually were made of aliminium foil, goto wikipedia and look up phonograph history, idiot.
aff1993 3 years ago
1st, I don't correct people by calling them rude names. 2nd, I don't consider Wikipedia a scholarly resource, but here's what it says about wax cylinders: The phonograph was conceived by Thomas Edison for recording telephone messages, his first test using waxed paper. By the 1880s wax cylinders were mass marketed. These had sound recordings in the grooves on the outside of hollow cylinders of slightly soft wax. Hard carnauba wax replaced the mixture of paraffin and beeswax.
d1o2n3k4e5y6s7 3 years ago 2
vinyl records for life¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
paweldun 3 years ago 2
vinyl records are the most beautiful thing in this world...
Vinyl Records 4EVER!!!
Giammarcuzzu89 4 years ago 19
I agree mate . Is there anything more beautiful than hearing some of your favourite songs on vinyl . and the great thing is , they're great to watch as well . I often just stare at the disc as it spins and it seems like the singers are alive in the disc and singing straight at me . It's an aural and visual experience . You get nothing like this from CDs . Records and record players are just works of art . They should be treasured .
123strauss 4 years ago 14
Don't forget the SMELL...actually, that was probably from the sleeve, but the SMELL...very nostalgic. Not exactly a "pretty smell" but very distinctive.
d1o2n3k4e5y6s7 3 years ago
You know, a cool thing about records is that you COULD have used the screwdriver to play it. Well, maybe not that, but a knife tip or a paper edge works just fine :) Yes, it's not very nice to do that to a record but it's good to know (if your plane crashes in the middle of a jungle, and both you and your records survive, you can still play your favorite tunes :D)
code123ns 4 years ago 3
I have the same ortofon cart/needle. It has issues w/ where it meets the tonearm. Sometimes I lose 1 or both channels.
lilbromarky1 4 years ago
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Bazillion isn't a word.
djlexxx 4 years ago
lol
Fakenstien 4 years ago
who cares
matt2house 4 years ago 3
This is true for a monophonic record, but stereo is another ball game. With stereo there is lateral movment of the stylus and verticle at the same time. And yes records are pressed but they have to be cut first and the cut is made into a metal plates through galvanics and then pressed. If you push a coin into somthing soft the coin pattern will come out opposite to the queens head say, will be imbost. So the galvanics also have to be a negative disk.
lewisldurham 4 years ago
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Zejex15 4 years ago
@Zejex15 you call me stupid? I did want this video just for fun!!! SO you say I am stupid? :P
randomforum 3 months ago
Hey Mr. submitter man, what'd you do with your rubber grip? That's the best part about the blue ortofon mounts. Buy blue so get the exclusive rubber grip, then get some other better sensitive stylus once your blue styli wear out (yellow nightclub spherical is excellent. All the rest either sucks or is marketing fluf/poo.)
DeepGarageHead 4 years ago
very nice video :) good explanation.
syntse 4 years ago
Records were originally wax with a cone attached to a needle set heavy, as you talked into the cone the vibrations would transfer making the needle imprint them. Then set to light to play back the wax grooves.
Take a paper, shape it into a cone. Put it on the record instead of the needle and you will hear the music. :)
monnie110 4 years ago
put your ear just above the needle and you can hear it as well. i'l ltry using my megafone to amplify it
lol
BigMilan 4 years ago
i tried and it didn't work. i have a video of it
lol
BigMilan 4 years ago
lol you have to write practice and enjoy on it first or it won't work! just kiddin I'll try to make a video but the camera is a little crazy. When I turn it on, to shutter opens and closes by itself.
monnie110 4 years ago
BigMilan put it on youtube, the video
coondogtheman1234 4 years ago
yea it's got megaphone written in the title. look for it
BigMilan 4 years ago
I found it, your megaphone experiment failed lol oh well ive done something like this well all I had was a record player with no amp and i had an old phone and i somehow had to rig the record player t6o the phone it but i never did, I needed an amp, hell I wish i had my mini radio shack amp that i got now i got 2 of em
coondogtheman1234 4 years ago