McCain: "The fish love to be around those rigs"

[Teekles]

Even if the oil rigs are a suitable habitat for life, the risk of pollution that is near impossible to remove is a much more important issue.

[tr342s]

Fish like oil rigs for a reason. They allow scallops and other stuff to attach to them and filter nutrients out of water. You don't see even a piece of metal on underwater oil rigs. They are covered with life. Oil rigs look like explosions of marine life in the middle of underwater desert. For more run search on youtube for "oil platform dive" and "Benefits of Oil Rigs".

[stupidpplequalstupid]

@tr342s and when something like the bp disaster happens?

[tr342s]

@stupidpplequalstupid

You know jolly well that nothing dramatic happened. It was a false alarm to make the neurotic American public to overreact. Search Youtube for "the secret of underwater asphalt" to know why. Do you really believe that oil is sitting down there waiting for us to drill while it never escapes into the sea? Oil is part of nature, it's part of the ocean. In particular in those places where there are commercial quantities of it under the seabed like the Gulf area.

[stupidpplequalstupid]

@tr342s so oil is visible all the time on the surface of the oceans then? does it just wait for us to drill for it, no of course not but its the amount of oil which makes it into the ocean which is the question. we have to drill for it because its below the surface of the sea. people have lost there jobs and businesses because the fish and birds died, they died because of the spill. to say offshore drilling is safe because fish live on the rigs is foolish.

[tr342s]

@stupidpplequalstupid

Then watch the video about underwater asphalt again. This is precisely why oil is not visible on the surface and why the BP spill disappeared so quickly. The Gulf is packed with oil and methane seeping into the water to the tune of several BP spills every year. It's obvious that in such places oil and methane are part of the natural cycle. Don't let the liberasts and their pseudo science brainwash you into being a fool. Watch my links and use your brain

[tr342s]

@stupidpplequalstupid

To put it short for you. The Gulf is paved with heavy oil that sinks to the bottom after bacteria disintegrate lighter components of the oil. This heavy oil sustains a vibrant ecosystem unique to the Gulf that flourishes on this stuff. And if you search youtube for "underwater lake", you will also understand what happened to methane. If for some reason oil and natural gas stop flowing into the Gulf, large chunks of the Gulf's fauna will simply die off

[stupidpplequalstupid]

@tr342s ive no doubt ecosystems have learned to cope with an oil rich enviroment, its called evolution. its the fact you seem unwilling to come to terms with the fact that the level of oil which leaked into the ocean killed hundreds of thousands of wildlife.

[tr342s]

@stupidppl

I am not saying there was no damage, but it was minor. There was no BP disaster. The pseudo science should now admit that it did not expect the Gulf's ecosystem to be so resilient. Spills on such a scale happen once in many years which means the Gulf is safe for offshore drilling. Maybe regulation should be tightened but otherwise areas that are naturally rich in oil deposits are the safest for drilling. Anybody who does not see it is either a fool or a liberast or both

[stupidpplequalstupid]

@tr342s look bp has set aside 40billion dollars to repair the damage, show me proof that the coast and its waters are fine. if your right you might save your beloved oil giants some money. also pseudoscience is someone claiming to be scientific, so what you mean to say is "those of you practicing your pseudo science".

[tr342s]

@stupidpplequalstupid

Man I am starting getting tired of constantly supplying your with search strings. I think you can make some googling on your own. However, just yesterday Science published a report by scientists who returned from the cruise in the Gulf and they said all natural gas of the spill is gone and methane made up for 30% of the well's output. In fact, they took measurements of the pockets of depleted oxygen used by the bacteria and there was 100% match between the two.

[stupidpplequalstupid]

@tr342s you showed me 2 videos, 1 was of an under water eco-system which is based on asphalt and the other was of an under water eco-system around a methane rich area. im guessing because of your liberal comment earlier you must be conservative so it doesnt surprise me that you find that conclusive in proving all creatures regardless of ecosystem can survive oil/methane conditions far greater by many times your above samples

[stupidpplequalstupid]

@tr342s also for the record everytime you asked me to look at something i have, including this latest one. do you just ignore the bits you dont like. how long has it been since the spill and there is still affected areas of plume to measure. have you watched the videos of the dead wild life or news coverage of the people losing jobs. how can you say what happened wasnt a disaster?

[tr342s]

@stupidpplequalstupid

Look. You have a mega spill that happens once in a generation. Obviously it should be damaging. However, lets keep things in proportion. This thing does not compare to Waldez or anything. The methane is gone. The oil is gone too. The last expedition did not find neither plumes nor dead zones. Even the levels of oxygen have recovered. The BP will pay its fines. By far more damage is done to people and the economy because there is not enough drilling than otherwise

[stupidpplequalstupid]

@tr342s i disagree but i think we both have lost patience with this so unless you have more evidence that has nothing to do with the subject i think we are done here. everyone knows it was a disaster but does that mean we should stop drilling,of course not we need oil. i just want regulations so that every rig has the very best of technology to protect us.

[tr342s]

@stu

There were polls as recently as October in which scientists were asked to grade the Gulf's health. Nobody is grading the spill as a disaster anymore. And I repeat again drilling is different from tankers sinking in areas with no oil deposits. Drilling happens in areas where many life forms are feeding on natural seeps. These areas occasionally go through massive spontaneous escapes of oil/gas. However, if we agree about drilling with more regulation, I see no reason to argue anymore

[tr342s]

@stupidpplequalstupid

By the way, If you google for "happy arab spill baby", you should come to the blog post "spill baby spill" which I wrote in the wake of our debate (I decided I should preserve my brilliant philosophy for the posterity). There you will find all relevant videos.

[tr342s]

@stupidpplequalstupid

"its the fact you seem unwilling to come to terms with the fact"

First of all between us, it's me who is talking from the position of knowledge and not you. You had no idea about the biology of the Gulf. In fact you seemed incapable of even following and understanding my links, I had to digest them for you. So first of all make sure that you know the facts and understand them well yourself, before you start encouraging me to come to terms with them

[Alistairville]

Oh come on - fish love oil! It makes them more slippery so they can swim faster. They can practice floating upside down pretending to be dead in it. You don't need "scientism" or "biologation" to know this. Just ask Palin, McCain, or pretty much any politician in their party.

[jajawt]

@Alistairville - if you are walking or riding a bicycle everywhere yuch it up. If you ever use a car for anything, shut up. It's childish idiots dems like you that want everything without sacrifice. So how is your savior working out for you? Communism alive and well? Get all your free stuff yet that you did nothing to earn? Still sitting on your ass waiting for Old Bama to pay your bills? Or have you had a job yet? When you do get a job, tell me how you like paying all those taxes.

[AMcGrath82]

... and now we have BP...

[anubhavshah]

i say we send all republicans to iraq. two birds with one stone so to speak.

[snorman1911]

In perspective, the Exxon Valdez spilled 10 million gallons.

As for the video, yes fish like oil rigs. Oil rigs are not constantly leaky, the area around them is typically very clean. Spills on the other hand are a different story. Spills are bad, but don't get the impression that oil rigs are constantly leaking oil into the ocean.

[snorman1911]

@Chuyckychuckybobucy 1991 Jan. 23–27, southern Kuwait: during the Persian Gulf War, Iraq deliberately released 240–460 million gallons of crude oil into the Persian Gulf from tankers 10 mi off Kuwait. Spill had little military significance. On Jan. 27, U.S. warplanes bombed pipe systems to stop the flow of oil.

The Persian Gulf is in the Ocean.

[CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY]

@snorman1911 I wasn't aware that one was the largest. The Deepwater Horizon spill is already estimated at 57% of the size of the Persian Gulf spill (201 million gallons compared to 351 million gallons as a median between the high and low estimate of the Persian Gulf spill's size). The estimations of the Deepwater Horizon spill may be way low according to a number of scientists.

[snorman1911]

Actually, any scuba diver knows that plenty of fish are found around oil rigs. If you people actually got out in real life and learned stuff instead of sitting at your computer and assuming you know everything you'd know this.

Any structure underwater attracts lots of sea life. Oil rigs, artificial reefs, etc. Sea life love it because it gives them something to anchor to, or hide in.

The amount of oil spilled is *miniscule* compared to the amount Iraq spilled on purpose in the gulf war.

[CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY]

@snorman1911 I'm pretty sure that since A)) 80% of life lives in the ocean, B)) living things don't typically consume crude oil, and C)) Iraq has exactly zero living creatures except for the occasional side-winder, dumping oil in the ocean just might be more important.

[Zhenobia]

Of all the movies that could have been prophetic.... WHY did "Idiocracy" have to be the one that really was....?

[CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY]

@Zhenobia This is a frustrating realization, isn't it.

[eidius1989]

someone please shoot me...

[kossmikham]

Is there ANYTHING this shit-for-brains old fuck knows anything about? Anything at all? Other than sucking on Big Oil's cock, that is?

[KamikazeKoscki]

Eat your food with oil McCain you asshole

[HeiressArts]

I'm sure the fish have changed their minds

[TheMethadoneParty]

who molested the Beatles song playing in this video?

[solarpanels3]

americans vote for him!!!!

[bangitsmom]

Man! He sounds so stupid.

[nickonoise]

If those damn rigs are so nice and friendly and such then please tell my why the elitist mouth pieces for the TEA BAGGERS and such aren't vacationing there.

[CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY]

@nickonoise The "TEA BAGGERS" aren't what the media is trying to make them out to be. They're not elitists. They are simply fighting against taxes as you should be. Taxes do not fix anything, and never have. Taxes are what create elitists, unless you consider 750,000,000,000 dollars going to the banks and multi-million dollar bonuses for their failed executives non-elitism.

[juarezrt]

@CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY

Taxes build schools, streets, libraries, and... oh forget it. If you support the tea baggers you'll always be stupid.

[CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY]

@juarezrt Please don't tell me that you are that ignorant. Your schools are paid for by state property taxes. Your streets and libraries are paid for by state income and state sales taxes. Federal highways are the exception. Your federal income tax goes straight into a long dark shoot.

[juarezrt]

@CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY

So do taxes get things done or not? Federal taxes build more than just the interstate. Claiming they go into a long dark shoot is a ridiculous claim.

[CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY]

@juarezrt Do the world 2 simple favors: #1 Understand that 100% of all personal income taxes are spent on interest to the Federal Reserve. 46% of newly borrowed money from the Federal Reserve money goes simply maintains the government's personnel, buildings and other resources, (basically no value). 54% of it is wasted on military (we spend 10x more than China and have half the military size. It's certainly not spent in raises for troops. Tell me that's efficient). #2 Swallow a fucking Frisbee.

[juarezrt]

@CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY

If that is the best response you can offer why even try? The least you could do is research the stats you gave me a little better so they aren't ridiculously simple.

[CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY]

@juarezrt Please understand that those are the real numbers. Ignorant people like you are the key to either ruining our world, or learning to be less of an idiot and fixing it. You're not funny at all. People with your level of intelligence make me throw up in my own mouth sometimes. It doesn't mean there is no place for you (e.g. Fast Food, Sanitation, etc), and it doesn't mean I hate you. It just makes me sick to know that I am of the same species of animal as you.

[juarezrt]

@CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY

Instead of insulting me, why don't you explain to the rest of us ignant folk how it is that we can get things done without federal taxes.

[CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY]

@juarezrt I don't mean to insult you, but it frustrates me that you, along with 200 million other folks will blindly say things like, "How can we get things done without federal taxes?", but nobody ever stops and thinks, "Where does my income tax go?".

[juarezrt]

@CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY

Well? Let me pose a simple question so we can get somewhere. How would we pay for our military? I agree we spend way too much, but we need a military and I don't see how state taxes would pay for that. Anybody who works wonders where the money went. The problem is that many today complain about paying ANY taxes at a time when we are in the biggest debt in our history. Taxes are inevitable, and we do not pay much compared to other times in our history, or other nations.

[CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY]

@juarezrt 880,759,170,000 (0.8 trillion). That's the 2009 total of federal individual income tax, and the total federal taxes collected in 2009 is 2,345,337,177,000 (2.3 trillion), so the illegal (see Amendment 26 which was not ratified), double-taxation (see "Double taxation income tax") robbery that occurs in your paycheck each month only accounts for about 1 third of collections. 663,800,000,000 (.66 trillion) is the military budget for this year. Continues on next comment...

[CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY]

@juarezrt ...continued (read other comment first): 98,800,000,000 (.09 trillion) or 1/7 of our military budget is China's military budget (second largest in the world, including the UK which spends only .06 trillion). We spend about 104% (or just barely more) of what the rest of the world spends combined. We could cut our spending in military alone to 200 billion per year, and still conquer the world. That would save 461,000,000,000 (just over half of the individual income tax collected) ...more

[CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY]

@juarezrt ...continued (part 3): (Update: 2009 military spending was 782 billion rather than 661 billion. If we cut out TARP, half of our discretionary spending, and illuminate the Federal Reserve (interest owed to private banks for creating money that we could just as well print), and cut medicare which is abused anyways, we could have more money to spend on important stuff like curing cancer, and get rid of personal income tax. Read up on some of the stuff I've posted. You'll get really mad.

[CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY]

@juarezrt P.S. Will I also be a doodoo head?

[juarezrt]

@CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY

if the shoe fits...

[MishuTaste]

Get ready for some black beaches, baby.

[faltj111]

You Communists would watch this propaganda, BS. Get a life, you people suck. Oilplatforms are the greatest natural reefs ever erected in ocean waters including the Gulf of Mexico. If they let us put them in California we wouldn't need foreign oil.

[CO2Junkie]

@faltj111 - OR you'd wind up with oil all over your beaches :O

And a large chunk of the trillions of dollars made will be lost on the billions of dollars spent in the inevitable clean up operations.

[purplepeopleeater77]

just another one of those stories......some people believe everything they hear and read, their own demise. Lack of knowledge, drive, and will, to find the truth.

[priapusfudd]

Lastly, I had a little giggle yesterday when your man, President Obama, supported opening up drilling off the coast of VA and Florida. Did he not see your video? He wouldn't just lie to get your vote, would he? Hey, you and your peeps can make a new clip using the insults and innuendos you wrote about McCain and direct them at Obama. Unless you don't believe your own BS!

[priapusfudd]

4- The picture of the rig listing. I checked and no rig like this sank in Hurricane Ike but if it did, it has been rigged down. The way you can tell is by looking at the waterline below the derrick, there are no wells going into the water. There has to be a physical connection between a rig and the well. So as I did in my post from long ago, I ask you, are you knowingly lying or just not have any idea about what you are talking about?

[priapusfudd]

3-The leaking well that the helicopter focuses on is on land. Pumps like this are not even used offshore. You do see the grass surrounding the thing, not to mention the raised earthen barrier to limit damage from a spill and are not used at sea. The next picture is of a flooded tank. Honestly Buddyguy, you do realize there are no trees, powerlines, or doublewide trailers out at sea. Why even use these pictues in an attack on offshore oil?

[CO2Junkie]

@priapusfudd - Ut oh. Looks like your argument just went to crap. Nothing like this giant oil spill in the Gulf was supposed to happen according to you :O

Yet with all those precautions, and your ridiculing Buddyguy & the rest of us for saying this would eventually happen... it just happened! I'd be LOL'ing at you except I can't 'cuz of all the shit that's about to hit the fan here in Southeastern LA.

Will our addiction to oil be worth all the fisherman that are about to be screwed?

[priapusfudd]

2- When a hurricane enters the Gulf of Mexico (GOM) the rig begins to prepare (rig down) for the storm. Chemicals sent ashore. Equipment moved below deck. Drilling pipe is pulled out of the hole and a storm packer (plug) sealing the well is set below the sea floor.  The rig floor is slid back into the hull so the rig and well are not connected. Then it is evacuated. If it sinks it doesn't effect the well. The only oil on the damn thing is in the engines and in the deep fryers in the galley.

[priapusfudd]

I know this is an old post but I have wanted to do this since I first saw it but didn't have the time. 1st-rigs are surrounded by fish, small all the way up to shark and barricuda. This is because the only 2 things allowed to go in the water are cleaned cuttings (earth from drilling, like sawdust from wood) and food ground to a size smaller than 1" square. Being the biggest source of food around Charters and Comm. fishermen are almost always around.

[captaincomp64]

When did McCain become such an expert on fishing the rigs? I doubt he has ever caught a lemon fish lol

[copperhead46]

Lol listin to all these idiots almost a year ago! Fish FLOURISH around oil platforms, even after they are abandoned. You liberal know-nothings have been misled. You equate oil platforms = bad for fish. Well that only really the case in a spill, which is not very often at all! Tell your hippie parents that a whole bunch of shit has changed in the oil business since 1969!

[41cobiahunteR]

I've been fishing the oil and gas rigs off of the Alabama coast since the early 90's and have always done well. There was always lots of life around those pilings. Wether they were biting or not, we could always at least see several species of fish swimming up and down and around the barnacle and oyster covered pilings. These rigs are ecosystems unto themselves. The only time they may be hazardous is if and when something goes wrong. But this is rare.

[Cosmoline]

Fish DO love rigs! Ask any commercial diver about it and he'll tell you. There's a video here of one getting repeatedly attacked by fish living on the rig who want him out of their great new home.

[priapusfudd]

After watching your video, I have a question. Are you just ignorant on the subject of petrochemicals or are you knowingly lying in an attempt to mislead people?

What ever the case may be, you should really learn the difference between feces and shineola before making such a statement.

It must be cool to be on the fringes of politcal spectrum, something peaks your intrest and you can make up true crap all day.

[blueskypictures]

Rite on, al gilby new zealand

[jbird0323]

Ok, so you don't like oil!! Then do not drive. Do not heat your house. Don't use electricity. Don't use plastics, oils(baby oil, vasoline, minreal oil, most lip balms, and lotions), and synthetic fabrics. If you do this, I guess you might have a right to bitch!!! People may say they can do this, but they lieing out their ass!!!!

[manny0536]

If anyone actually cared to educate themselves on this subject they would realize that oil rigs become artificial reefs and are definitely beneficial to the surrounding fish.

Barnacles grow on the steel structures which in turn small fish feed on, which in turn larger fish feed on, creating a mini ecosystem. Ask any Gulf coast fisherman where the best place to go is and they would say oil rigs. Sport Fisherman are regular visitors due to the Monster fish near rigs.

[kissmiss629]

America you made the best choice by choosing Barack Obama as your Commander-in-Chief.

Brava~

[hamace]

He hasn't taken office yet; how can you say that? Obama has already backpeddled on many issues...thank god. and he has exhibited zero understanding of the economic problems we are facing by blaming the War in Iraq for the collapse of Fanny & Freddie.Are you aware of how much money he received from those lenders for his continued support of subprime lending?Of coure ur not,ur not aware of anything that is not fed to you.BHAAAAAAAAA

[offshore4848]

You stupid fuckin liberal retards, the fish do love the rigs. all the charter services fight over those area's. stupid fuckin obomites. BTW how many of you stupid fuckheads have actually been out there!!!

[terrymp1091]

If any of you low life retards would go outside,you would know that fish love cover like oil rigs.

[halfass0369]

I do some offshore Atlantic and Gulf fishing myself, and yes, the fish are ATTRACTED to the structure of the rigs, for the cover and food they attract and provide, they don"t love them though, and they don't understand what dangers lie within. AP news reported today that over 500,000 gallons of oil has leaked into the Gulf. I am sure the fish are loving that. Drill baby drill?

[hamace]

500,000 gallons is about the same a a quart. oil sits on the surface until broken down and disolved by by by by SALT.Your a victim of the liberal media.Yes man does horrible things to the enviroment but oil drilling is not one of them.Aircraft cause so much more enviromental problems, but htey are not mentioned because even politicans cannot risk politicizing the impact. They have to look the other way. Every thing a pol says is a lie, even from the ALmighty Obama

[karrachea]

"Fish love oil rigs!?!?" It's time to bow our heads and pray.... God, PLEASE don't let this man be president - we can't handle another 4 years!!! Say NO to "McCainisms"

[toyachen88]

Did he morph into Elmer Fudd for a minute???

[anthonycut]

Why not put in a WIND TURBINE???

[liveoilfree]

McCain has no brain, apparently, and Palin has no heart.

[D4rKNeSs13]

Please save us from these two morons known as McBush|Stalin!!

[Itrytocontrolmylegs]

Typical republican rhetoric. Do some research on Palin...she knows even less. His chances of winning got better how?

[elvin1rln]

Wow! What a dumbass! LMAO!!!!

He sounds so much like a clueless great-grandfather. I can't get my head around the fact that he is running for President. Embarassing.

[gtg059x]

Oil rigs destroy ecosystems...So yeah, fish love those rigs. McCain, I respect your service to the country, but your continued display of ignorance is atrocious.

[tralfasian]

Fish love oil rigs, much like eagles have a taste-preference for DDT. He may as well have finished that joke off with "and I think drilling in Yellowstone would benefit the bears too!"

[carlgt1]

if McCain wins, then Bin Laden & AlQaeda have truly won. It took RepugliKKKans to truly destroy America and do what the terrorists couldn't achieve on their own.

[midwestmacrame]

By the way, thanks for posting this!

[pbilger]

What an ass McCain is.

[toyachen88]

McCain old Ass is obviously senile!!!!

[pfannyguy]

Looks like that fish really wants to get back to its rig.

[phishheadjz]

"i believe that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" - george w. bush sept. 2000.

ill let you connect the dots.

[ExileOC]

WoW ....... this is a massive LOL epic FAIL

[jcfractal]

Wow!! Case closed!

[midwestmacrame]

For those of you who may not have heard, tickets to this event had to be requested in advance and online only at the McCain website. (There was no charge.)

No earlier than 24 hours before the event, you had to pick up your tickets from the local Republican party headquarters. The party assured the public that requests would not be screened.

Oh, and the audience at the Ford Fieldhouse was limited to 3,500 -- a below-capacity crowd.

[JHS1234567]

I feel that the poor man may be on the verge of dementia, even his hand picked crowd looked confused by his, I don't know how to charchterize his comment, maybe it is the medication talking, but of course we can't get access to his medical records to find out about his medical history.(Why does it seem the Redumblicans always have to hide something,(WMD, Financial crisis, not supporting troops, no bid contracts, etc.) Nothing but the MCSAME Bush failed policies with Mccain/Palin ticket,OBAMA 08

[mambo200]

We are doomed - if he was my uncle, I would run and hide every time he came to visit.

[midwestmacrame]

He sounds like that old guy who sits in his lawn chair in the driveway and yells at cars...

Wow.

[brotherbaye]

He's losing his fucking mind!!!

[3Aracely3]

Lol...who can take him seriously? totally reminded me of Bush with his dumb remarks...

[fooeyusa]

I mean COME ON! Who could vote for this guy? He is INSANE!

[LightsEShadows]

@fooeyusa you never see a fish like to swim around oil rigs... there are even over internet, look it, they are funny :-)

[mrsalansmithee]

Yet another subject this right wing tool knows nothing about.

[CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY]

@mrsalansmithee Folks need to stop thinking of "right wing", "left wing" nonsense. It is worth nothing to be involved in "party politics" and "right", "left". It matters not what ideology a leader pretends to be, or is. It only matters what their policy is. Look at Ron Paul. He doesn't care what anyone in Washington thinks. He does what's right for the nation and what's right for ecology and economy. Please research "red herring idiom" and you'll be ashamed you ever took part in this big joke.

[crimsong19]

He sounds nervous, unsure. And how do fish have fun in oil? There's no way!