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  • i wish i could make all those exuses for animal protection and care people ["whale jail" people] perform stupid little tricks and eat only the worst of food, I MEAN COME, ON They dont even live half the life of a free orca, and all that time is wasted on torture and poor exersize

    they make me sick

  • thank you Steve, and all members of SHARK, without you i would still be "blissfully unaware" of this injustice. maybe someday people and nature can exist harmoniously, but thats one of our only two options, and if i know anything about humans, theyd take the easy way out and hurl themselves and their four-legged, flying and finned neighbors to their destruction.

    "A cage with golden bars is still a cage" ~

  • (does anyone know why thier dorsil fin actually goes limp im just wondering)

    i used to loove seaworld i would go all the time then i went Vancoover (hope i spelled that right) and went whale watching a (male orca came 10 feet from the boat) and the told us how orca were taken to seaworld and once a male orca was taken and his pd followed him my life was changed

  • @hotheeltoo We've heard it could be any number or combination of factors due to stress and the unnatural environment of captivity.

  • @hotheeltoo, it's to do with water pressure. The pressure from the ocean keeps them healthy. Those tiny tanks aren't enough to truly support them, which is why they die young, and suffer in ways we cannot even begin to understand.

  • @banrodeos Thanks for your post and your voice for the animals.

  • I wish other people could see what SeaWorld is doing the way you do. If swimming in cricles is justified as exercise, then all orcas would spend their lives doing laps around a concrete bowl. thank you for your videos, i will never go to a rodeo, circus, zoo or "whale jail" ever again.

  • @TheEbonyshadow1 Thanks for your post. Many groups are working towards freeing these majestic creatures from their despicable money-grabbing prisons. But, as rodeo is a phony 'tradition excuse, SeaWorld is a major money-generating machine with huge corporate bucks behind it and it's going to take changes in laws and people not showing up at their gates to get things changed.

  • Intelligent perfection shouldn't be keept by arrogant and selfish human beeings in tiny pools to amuse even more stupid people.

  • I think keeping such animals captive whose basic needs, physical and mental, can be tended to with sufficient success is okay -- losing some freedom and activities in order to have a life with far less life-shortening conflict, stress, malnutrition, disease, environmental hazards, etc. isn't too bad a trade. What should be much more widely understood, however, is that to provide even passable captive conditions for some animals, like orcas, is nigh IMPOSSIBLE.

  • @OneDragonmaster

    You didnt pay attention.... tsk tsk... You say they live longer? Perhaps you should watch again and gain some basic statistics on the subject prior to commenting. With an average of 25% or in many cases less, they DO NOT live even close to a full life. What the reality is and a comparison to humans would be an acceptable age of death at 2.5yo up to a whopping 25 years old. Those are pathetic numbers. They can live up to 80 years many captive die under 20! SHAME...

  • Just one amazingly cunning thing that Orca's do for example and that are often overlooked or seem unassuming is swimming in perfect sync "all cresting at the same time" masking their pod's size and appearing as only one while stalking a Grey Whale for her vulnerable Calf also cuz stealth being essential to their success means they must also "shutoff" their tracking sonar because the mother whale is acutely sensitive to it so they use an alternate specialized tracking method just for them.

  • @lmos26 Nature doing its thing. And to think man has the audacity to believe he has the right to imprison and manipulate the lives of these creatures simply because he made the tools that can.

  • @SHARKonlineorg my email address is lmos26 at gmail."same addy for facebook" I live on Central Florida's east coast less than an hour from Sea World. Please dont hesitate to contact me if your ever here so that I can stand by you in support. Just whatever/anything I can do to help. 

  • @lmos26 Great, thanks.

  • Captive Orca in amusement parks are one of saddest realities of animal exploitation imprisonment and abuse in the world. Sad too is that observing these unbelievably intelligent predators in their natural environment can be seen by simply searching for I, Predator: Orca vs Seal Part 1 here on YouTube for example and allowing you to appreciate their full TRUE magnificence. A magnificence that the likes of Sea World could never show you. Here satisfaction is always guaranteed for both Orca and Man

  • @lmos26 Thanks for your posts.

  • I love Orcas. I now hate Seaworld, Marine Land and other places that hold these animals captive. I would rather see Orcas in the wild.

  • Almost all Humans are horrible people. There are very few human being who do hardly anything wrong to nature or other people.

  • Killer whales or orcinus orca, are my favourite animal and it is hourendous how humans treat them, how are they supposed to excersize in those child swimming pools? NOt impressed!

  • Ya know, I retract my previous statements. Your videos were the first ones I've watched today regarding animal cruelty, so i was overly biased in my opinion of them. I have, however, been watching several animal cruelty vids since, and I gotta say, I'm appalled. The way we treat animals is just........inhuman. The more I think about, the more it reminds me of what a monster would do. That's the best way to describe these people......as well as myself.

  • i don't know why people have so hard time to understand. we're not talking about they're health here, we're talking of spirits. you have one, i have one, these animals have one. they need wild habitat, like you need to move from your computer sometimes. they need to hunt, because they were created for keeping populations of other creatures down. orcas are not in our habitats, you'll never see one walking down you street, you cannot dominante a sea animal.

  • "Dorsal fins that are bent over, perhaps as a sign of their broken spirits." LOL!!

    If killer whales dominate other creatures in there habitat, why shouldn't we dominate them in our habitat?

  • because they are top predators, they dominate other creatures because they need to live and eat, people like you only want to dominate them for greed and money.

  • @98rallets They're top predators, you dumb shit. If you paid attention in your biology class, you'd know that. People don't have the right to dominate and the only reason we do is because we're ruled by shitfaced capitalists. What gives us the right to dominate them? There are too many air-headed people like you on this planet who just don't give a shit, which is sad because people like you will reduce the planet to a nuclear wasteland.

  • @98rallets because we brought them here forcefully, or captive bread them... they did not chose to be here and amuse you, besides their idea of "domination" while they are free is not to force other sea animals to perform tricks and eat beside their normal diet as our idea of "dominating" them is...

  • I don't support animal abuse but the sad part is if they are left in the wild people will kill them so in this one and only case i thinks its okay to have them in captivity

  • This video was awesome but I also think it would've been good to mention that there have been very few documented orca attacks on humans in the wild, while we there have been several in captivity.

  • @Amanda53189 Yea I thought of this too. I've read about several Darwin Award winners who actually climbed into Orca exhibits and got attacked. They ARE predators, so we shouldn't so quickly assume that they are "harmless". Then again, we probably shouldn't assume that all people have enough common sense to avoid climbing into zoo/theme park exhibits with dangerous animals...

  • As long as the human population expands and need more resources this will happen.

    In about 300 to 500 years all wild carnivores over 50 pounds and all wild herbivores over 150 pounds will only exist in zoos or be extinct.

    I am a deer hunter (I shoot it I eat it) and I actually love cougars and wolves. By dream is to see a wild cougar, wolf, and bobcat. Not hunt them. But see them wild and unmolested. I have a pic of a wild bear, I have 3 more to go before I die

  • @alexisPaulG We're two separate organizations. They have their agenda, we have ours.

  • @SHARKonlineorg

    How do you differ from PETA?

    Some of the PETA people have gone insane. The animals would think so too!

  • @equarg We won't argue that, but will not lambast another org even if we don't agree with their agenda. We do not promote, condone or tolerate violence, which includes throwing paint on people wearing fur coats, etc. We do not physically handle animals, as PETA does, and has been publicly exposed for killing them. We investigate, document & expose abuses and give that evidence to law enforcement, prosecutors, courts, media and the public in order to raise awareness about inadequate cruelty laws.

  • What about Lolita she needs everyones help! She needs the most help. She lives in a pool in the shape of a fishbowl . . I want all of the orcas in captivity to be free but they simply cant now :( Same thing for the captive born orcas they have no idea whats really out there. Almost all of these captive orcas cant be set free they wont survive in the wild due to being hand fed and people interactions i mean look what happened to keiko :( All of the orcas need everyones help including Lolita.

  • @ALoveForOrcas He lived a good 4-6 years in the wild. proving setting them free CAN be done. with TIME EFFORT and MONEY that Sea World HAS. It CAN BE done. End of Conversation.

  • No effence to this movie but there is some true part about captive orca's they should never be in captivity unless they need to be rehabilitated. But i really really REALLY disagree about Vancouver aquarium being a whale jail PLEASE!!!! they are flat serious about animal conservation they educate the public to be really aware they even did an amazing job of beach clean up gatherings and rescuing marine mammal's and Rehabilitate them back in the wild. so I my opinion this movie is a too much.

  • The orca whales are basically like fat unconditioned people living indoors 24/7, kept alive only by drugs. Poor creatures, that dorsal fin wouldn't flop over like that if the animal was healthy. Orcas are like a cross between a wolf and an elephant, wild and highly intelligent. Sea World is a sad circus indeed.

  • do really attack people? as long as i know all living creatures have their own way to humans...

  • I have a question, I completely support this cause and I freakin hate SeaWorld, but are you guys in any way related to PETA? I just wanted to know, I mean no offense

  • @WolfPark101 We have absolutely no affiliation with PETA.

  • i agree that cetacean should not be in captivity but i also think that to set them free would be as good as murder. we should peter them out. but then you must look at pods of dolphins in the golf of mexico would it be better for them to be in captivity? as long as we treat are oceans as we do we will have animals in captivity. sadly.

  • One of my greatest dreams is to go on a long trip to see J, K, and L pod off the coast of Washington and British Columbia. I used to admire Sea World...until I learned the truth.

  • i dont get what the one guy is saying about the whales educating people. What can they show in captivity that cant be shown better in the wild. These whales are being ridden around made to jump on command. yea its teaching that this is just another form of "entertainment" that people can supposedly learn from. when i went it taught me that these beautiful animals belong in the wild not in a tank. so i suppose it teaches you something.

  • here in the netherlands we have some seel hom,es i dont know how to say it but if they are wounded they go there and get in a basin more then 4 hectare and when they are healed they ge back in the ocean and 4 basins for killerwhales (orcas) wich are wounded and thats 21 hectare and thats like 5 kilometres from my home :) ii most of the time come there and see some killer whales

    they even had 1 and she missed a half flipper :(

  • @smasherwespp As Rotterdam is one of the busiest ports in the world, no doubt many marine animal injuries are the results of coming into contact with ships. It's great that there are basins where they can recuperate.

    Thanks for your post.

  • @smasherwespp That must be a secret then, because I live in the Netherlands and I never heard of it. We do help and save seals, but no killer whales. Killer whales don't even live in the sea of the Netherlands. I think you're lying, honestly. :)

    And where they save the seals they swim in quite tiny tanks, not something as big as 4 hectare. Sorry to burst your bubble.

  • @B4Malfoy No secret. There's even a Reuters news story on one that was recently found in the Wedden(?) Sea.

    They used to be more prevalent near the Netherlands until the porpoises they fed on moved away/disappeared for reasons unknown.

  • @SHARKonlineorg That's right. Morgan, a female killer whale of around 3 years old, was rescued not to long ago. She was al alone hoewver (in the Noordzee). But you have to believe me that there is no such thing as an rehabilitation centre for killer whales in the Netherlands. I'm an huge orca freak, and I think I would know if there was. Ah well, perhaps I lived under a rock or something. =)

    I want to go to Canada to see wild killer whales too. I have to admit I've been to Seaworld too, though

  • @B4Malfoy Okay. Thank you for clearing that up!

  • @B4Malfoy: The rehab center in the Netherlands is not specifically for killer whales, but it IS there. Part of the Dolfinarium in Harderwijk is set up as a rehab center for cetaceans. They have an off-site sea facility near the Oosterscheldedam in Zeeland. In the past they mostly took care of porpoises, the most common cetacean in Dutch waters, but dolphins were also part of the rehab program. In essence, a killer whale is just a big dolphin, and they have plenty experience with those.

  • Sea World educates? Since when? Most people go there for fun. Zoos and .centers are more educational then Sea World.

  • wild animals belong in the wild. :)

    great video.

  • @XxOceanGurlxX Yes, they do, and thank you.

  • Love the video, but I do have a question. In the section that you list whales that have died while in captivity, why include stillbirths and miscarriages? I am not a marine biologist, but surely those happen in the wild also. Although I will not dispute the probability that captivity can increase stress, which could affect stillbirth and miscarriage rates.

    Otherwise, great videos! Keep up the good work.

  • @Mr500sheetsofpaper Thanks for your post. And you did answer your own question about why we included the stillbirths and miscarriages.

  • Remembers the movie "Free Willy"...its sickening to see these beautiful aquatic wild mammals being either consumed or being kept in captive for entertainment purposes. I too think they should be in their natural habitat, being free.,,the same goes for the whales as well...Animal Planet's Whale Wars show a perfect example of preventing cruelty to these magnificant creatures of the sea.

  • Being in the Sea Life parks and what have you can be a good idea. It stop them from being killed in the wild for their meet. I am sure you can see where I am coming from. Most Sea Life parks and Marine Parks are doing a good thing by breeding them as they are being killed in the wild.

  • @GingerHottie123 That is no different than forcing people to live in unnatural confinement because people are being killed out on the streets.

    Breeding wild animals in remain for their entire lives in captivity is not the answer for the animals. Stopping humans from killing them in the wild is.

  • now i feel sad and stupid for going to one of those shows as a kid

  • beutifull viedo i hope people lern the abuse on these animals .

  • I went to Sea World and i was educated.

  • @AMorrell14 How much time did you spend there? Months? Years? Decades? Were you able to leave, while the whales could not? And what are you doing with that education where those imprisoned Orcas are concerned?

  • Brilliant video. Lets keep fighting for these majestic animals and for once not let greed and profit reign supreme. This is an absolute dispicable disgrace and I am ashamed to be human.

  • @joanand13 Thanks for your post.

  • I believe a place like seaworld is good the tanks and these places have envovled alot and more understanding how these creatures work and how to keep them alive and happy in captivity

  • @Lucatheking16 Do you think you'd be happy in captivity? The only understanding that can be had of anything in captivity is how they live in an unnatural environment. Do you think humans behind bars are a good indication of how humanity as a whole thrives?

  • @SHARKonlineorg No i wouldnt be happy behind bars and neither would orca but thier not they have loads of room to swim about and you can tell they are happy when you go to seaworld even if the shows arent on you can see them playing with each other jumping out of the water not on command.

  • @Lucatheking16 Captivity is captivity, whether behind bars or withing an aquarium.

    Considering these animals in nature roam over 100 miles a day, swimming and 'playing' in a tank is unnatural, regardless of how you wish to interpret their happiness.

    A tank is not 'loads of room' for an animal that naturally travels an ocean.

  • Marine shows, and zoos are a hard one... Personally, I think that a few Orcas, and wild animal in captivity are acceptable, if they are educating people about how amazing they are, and how we need to help these animals.

    Thats just my view, but Thanks shark for educating us on these matters.

  • @CanteringLeap Thanks for your post. We respectfully disagree with keeping even one wild animal in captivitiy. In captivity there is nothing to learn about these creatures except how humans can manipulate them to do unnatural tricks for the audience. How we need to help them is to leave them in the wild. Humans should not be so selfish as to think their petting a captive animal for 2 minutes is learning anything about an animal that lives for decades in an unnatural environment.

  • It is so cool to hear them blow it just sends chills down my spine

  • I see both evils and good.

    However, if you fight this...you're going to have to fight zoos. And about half of the zoos are free and funded by donation....obviously not there to make money.

  • brotos: We are against zoos, rodeos and any exhibition that protects the abuser not the animals.

    There are organizations dedicated in their fight against zoo abuses. We'll continue to work for the animals in rodeo.

    How much are you doing to help the animals at either type of venue?

  • When I was a kid my mom brought me to Sea World in Ohio almost every year. I loved going to see all of the animals, including the whales. The tanks they have aren't exactly as good as the ocean, absolutely not, but I think saying that the experience they provide isn't educational is false. I know that I personally learned a LOT of stuff about all sorts of things, and even the whale shows are great displays of their intelligence and power.

    I love animals, but zoos and the like aren't all bad.

  • Makingnewnamesisdumb: For the moments you were there and perhaps 'thought about your experience there', think of the years these animals have been held captive, taken away from their natural home and family pods forever. Really, is that fair for some moments of human pleasure?

  • I'm writing a book about animal cruelty. Your videos have taught me so much and I would love to mention you in the book. There is a part for the circus and the rodeo and writing about all that you have done to bring awareness to the cruelty would make the book more infofmative. Thanks for all your hard work. God bless you.

  • Nikki494958: We appreciate that. Thank you for being a voice for the animals.

  • can I use the scene with the dead orca names, or where can I find the list?

    you do a great job, thank´s for all the video´s

  • realbushdoctor: Thank you. You may use it, but please give us credit.

  • thank´s, I´ll give you credit in my video for sure, and I do promotion for your channel. I´ll send you a link when the video is online.

    Sorry my english is not so good!!!

    Fight together

  • one of my biggest wishes is, to see a whale one day. but free whales! i NEVER would go to watch whales in captivity! i hope this will end soon. but it will only end, if people stop go to watch these damn shows!

  • We heard today that Tillikum at SeaWorld Orlando was worth $2million, so they say they will never set him free, which means he's worth that to SW's pocketbook and bottom line, while his quality of life in captivity is 0.

  • thanks for letting me know dude i shall research them

  • their aint any in the uk. infact in indan or most of the eastern world, unless you are counting world wide as america? which would be silly

  • BlueReef Aquarium is one. And they have about 5-6 locations in England.

  • only seems too be american who choose too do sea world shows

  • evikt14: Captive aquariums like Sea World are world wide.

  • While I do agree that some captivities do not take good care of the orcas, Sea World takes very good care of their orcas. And the orcas like performing, as far as their concerned when they do a trick they are playing. They like doing tricks. But it still makes me sad to think that part of the reason Keiko died was because he was in captivity for so long and he got pnemonia from so many people petting him all the time!

  • Look at their beautiful dorsal fins! How large they are! You won't find a dorsal like THAT in captivity!

  • Truly so sad.

  • What I cannot understand is WHY WHY WHY the big newspaper people don't shout and scream for this to end. Truly makes me sick

  • so so sad..

  • the same kind of repetive, neurotic behavior that is seen in zoo animals and circus elephants.

  • So so sad

  • i personally would be scared to get in the water with them. ive made friends with a mustang. off the range mustang. that was scary enough.....a whale that size from the wild......nope i aint going near it. they pretty i have always loved orcas since Keiko. i think i misspelled his name, otherwise known as willy

  • The captives at the Mystic Aquarium swim in circles non-stop.

    The same kind of repetive, neurotic behavior that is seen in zoo animals and circus elephants.

    A coping mechanism. Very sad.

  • OMG orca's I love them. I only think wounded orca's who otherwise would die in the wild should be put in a tank and only until it is better...but probibly release it with other orca's you have saved so it can have a new pod to swim with.

  • Corky, Tillikum, Kataska and Katina all live at Seaworld parks and are all captured. Corky is the oldest orca in captivity. She is only 43. In the wild, females live 60-90 years. Males, 50-70 years. In the last ten years, four of Seaworlds juvenile orcas have died. The eldest was only 15. Their orcas are artificially inseminated. They are denied affection and treats when they fail to perform. They are fed multiple antacid drugs to counter the GERD they suffer due to their captive lifestyle.

  • My gosh i should of watched that whole video first. I am never going back to seaworld EVER

  • My aunt works at seaworld. They actually take care of the whales there and cause them no harm and the live at least 4 years longer than they would in the wild. Al of them have been bread in captivity, from there own will. And if they dont want to do something, they dont have to do it. They are rewarded well with fish and human touch. Please do NOT say its seaworld.

  • SmileyMileyFan26- It IS seaworld. And any other marine park.

    Sure, they get rewarded with dead fish when they perform. BUT, if they dont perform, just because they are not physically abused or FORCED to, doenst mean they arnt getting punished for it. "You dont want to perform? K, back in the small tank for you. " Thats probably the worst punishment imaginable for a social, wild animal.

  • Corky, Tillikum, Kataska and Katina all live at Seaworld parks and were all captured. Corky is the oldest orca in captivity. She is only 43. In the wild, females live 60-90 years. Males, 50-70 years. In the last ten years four of Seaworlds juvenile orcas have died. The eldest was only 15. Their orcas are artificially inseminated. They are denied affection and treats when they fail to perform. They are fed multiple antacids to counter the GERD they suffer do to their captive environment.

  • @SmileyMileyFan26

    Orcas in captivity have very short lifespans compared to their wild counterparts. Often they don't live longer than 15-20 years, in the wild they can live up to 60-80 years. There are even orcas that are 100 years old!

    If they don't perform a trick, they aren't rewarded anything (not that they need human touch, but anyway..). And they are fed dead fish, when in the wild they catch live prey.

    Captivity isn't right for these animals. They deserve to be wild and free.

  • I worked at a marine animal park for two years and three dolphins and several other animals died at unacceptably young ages during that short time. The establishment was later charged for not reporting the deaths.

    After I finished my second summer there I was no longer a supporter of any such establishment. I worked with kids and educated about whale biology, natural ecosystems, scuba diving, and a few other things. The education department was independent and later dropped by the institution.

  • Blayzefyre: Thanks for your post.

  • This is terrible. My Korean friends and me love the aquarium. I always thought the aquarium was wrong. If you want to see an Orca go to the coasts and see them in there real surrondings! Like humans they need freedom. So if these sea creatures need freedom so do hamsters, pet chinchillas and new exotic animals we keep for our amusment. Shame on us. Even I could do better.

  • orcas have no place in water parks its understandable for dolphins simply because they are alot smaller

  • It breaks my heart to see animals or humans abused!! Think before you act.

  • CaitieMae09: Thanks for your post.

  • wow.. .its so true. if their goal was educational. why not stop dolphin slaughter?? its all about the money . indeed.

  • Im Anti-Captivity and proud killer whales and dolphins belong in the wild not tanks.

  • All i see here is a prison. Humans..we just use and abuse, with a small few in this world who actually respect the lives and well beings of others. What a proud boast that was eh? Im so proud to be human

  • XxFizzxX: Thanks for your post. It's how we use our humanity that defines us.

  • i get sick of watching this,Orcas and dolphins havent done anything agains us

    I have only seen orcas in the wild,where they belong,not stuffed in Tanks showing stupid tricks

  • Beautiful footage of those resting wild orcas, plus that breaching footage! Wow! What islands did you whalewatch off of? Last summer we whalewatched off of Galiano Island in BC and got to see J-Pod including J1 Ruffles who you have in your video. :)

    Actually, J1's mother, J2, is 98 years old. Two more years and she can prove that orcas can live over 100! Its so sad to see that these beautiful animals are forced to live their life in a pool, and throw away their lives for entertainment....:(

  • I grew up on the coast and know well the adrenaline when they swim under your little boat. :) I also know well the sadness of their captivity in the Vancouver aquarium and Victoria's Sea Land. Marine museums do NOT educate the public to respect wild dolphins and orcas. Ric O' Barry knows what of he speaks. I will never take my children to them.

  • ........ And to think I wanted to go to Sea World. This makes me sick, as if America isn't bad enough. Put all this crud you guys have revealed together and WALLA~! Hopefully America gets it's act together :/ nice job again

  • I had no idea that they were so short-lived in captivity. For that reason alone there is no justification for keeping them imprisoned.

  • The fins are generally believed to be flipped over as a cause of swimming in small constant circles or from being to close to the water's surface during every day hours,the tissue which makes up the fin becomes weak.There is no shade from the sun at most parks.

  • Sea world is not Bad

    or that place in canda\

  • flagracer11: For a rodeo person who is devoid of compassion or ethics, there is no animal abuse that you find unacceptable.

  • SHARKonlineorg.

    Good video. i was going to Buy whitetip shark for my house Big aquarium but you change my mind .

  • By paying to get in to film you didnt you contribute to marinworld. You had to buy a ticket to get in paying money, money that goes to the mis treatment of aniamls. You say your helping but it really doesnt seem that way. If you really wanted them free you wouldnt supoort these so called jail cells but purchasing an addmisions ticket. . .

  • willbilly292: We have to get the word out. Can't get the evidence from the outside.

  • What are your thoughts of that one Orca that was set free? I think Keiko was it's name, it was the name of the whale that stared in Free Willy.

  • 5* 5* 5* 5* 5*

    very very good

    thanks 4 upload

    the humans could learn somthing from orca

  • Sad Sad Sad..........Dont support Sea World or Animal Circuses...you buy the ticket but the Animals pay the price!

  • It's sad how much ignorance there still is in the world. people think they have the right to change the world, think they're so superior. But the earth does not belong to us alone. We think we are an advanced race, yet we create only distruction..and there are so many mysteries we can't comprehend in the natural world. Creatures that can do amazing things, have developed amazing skills. The human race truly is a plague upon the earth and all it's weird and wonderful creatures.

  • People say "Marineland and Miami Seaquarium are bad/cruel but Sea World isn't." They all are. Sea World is just better at covering up dolphin/orca deaths, captures, etc. They are still exploiting these intelligent, social beings for profit day after day, year after year!

  • your so right but i want to work with animals but i want to rehabilitate them only capturing them to help them if there hurt and them sending them back to the wild after there beter and im not sure if this is true but my teacher is a biolagy teacher and she said the humped over fin is a sighn of aging so maybe they age faster in captivity ??? just a thought

  • hannahblackwolf14: in captivity, even a orca calf's dorsal fin is drooped. There are instances of drooped dorsal fin in the wild, but it is rare.

  • I think your right about marineland but seaworld isn't that bad and they do the best for their animals. WHy don't they close down marineland?

  • moldyrulz: For animals that swim a hundred miles a day in the wild, Sea World is very, very bad.

  • you cannot defend having big animals prisoned on such small areas...

  • Mrineland is an absolutly dispicable place. They have been trying for years to get the funding to build better facilities for their animals but continue to install rides in their park with money that could be used to improve living conditions for their animals.

  • I've got a question. What would you do if you happened upon a seriously injured mother cow, no way to help her except put her out of er misery, and a young calf that you know couldn't defend for itself in the wild if the cow dies. Would your organization let nature take its course or try to give the calf a chance? I just would like to know where you truly stand on THIS subject, not others please. Who is trying to play "the creator" (his name is GOD) by deciding who lives and who dies?

  • maderebm: What?????????????

  • Would you take the calf and try to give it a chance at life although it would be in captivity or just let nature take its course and let the calf be killed in the wild? Damn just read the questions. I don't need to know about any other subjects just this one. Thanks. And I've asked you politely for a telephone number to talk to you about your organization but haven't received one. Please note I would actually like to talk to you not to an answering machine.

  • maderebm: We're not here to answer your rhetorical questions, and don't have the time or interest in doing so. If you want to talk, privately send us your name and number.

  • this is absolutely the most idiotic retorical crap I've heard...what would you prefer? to live in a prison your whole life, or live for just a day where you truly belong?...If it was me, and I had the means, I would consider an attempt to raise the calf to an adolecent age, after which it could be re-introduced to the wild. However it's not difficult to create LARGE enclosures in the ocean itself (I've SEEN them), there's no need to spend millions on a concrete fishtank.

  • Another thing, did you consider that death is a natural part of nature? By 'saving' (if you can call it that) the calf, you may be assisting the starvation of several preditors. It's a natural course of nature, survival of the fittest...not survival of the cutest? YEs, death is natural...lifelong torture and imprisonment is most certainly NOT.

  • I'd rather kill an animal than imprison one.

  • I got to admit that marineland was bad but seaworld isn't that bad

  • It is a known fact there there is less chlorine in an orca pool than there is in a teaspoon of tapwater. Orca pools are over 60 ft deep, and a couple hundred feet wide. Those Marineland pools that you showed were definitely too small and shallow, but this does not mean that Sea World is the same. The sea world orcas captured from the wild were some of the first, and Tillikum, a male captured at the mere age of 4, is 26 years old, is the biggest orca in captivity, and has sired over 15 calves.

  • BabyGlory: What is sixty feet, compared to the hundreds of feet that orcas would dive in the wild? What is a couple hundred feet when they would swim a hundred miles a day in the wild? If you had your world changed so radically, you would rightfully scream bloody murder.

    People who claim to love these prisoners care only about themselves, not the victims of captivity. If they cared about the animals they would demand that there be no more captivity.

  • The orcas do not perform for food. They get fed daily, as well as the extra rewards they get when they perform the correct behavior. If they do something wrong, they do not get beaten or starved. They get a "time out". If they come back after they perform an incorrect behavior, the trainer simply stands still with no reaction for a few seconds. Afterwards, the orca is given a few pats for trying.

  • BabyGlory: These animals shouldn't have to do anything but be themselves, in their own environment and with their own pods. Sea World is a profiteering animal abuser, not to mention that parent company AB is also involved in rodeos and bullfighting. The whole company is built on cruelty and corruption, and Sea World is just another dirty brick in the wall.

  • Yes, though I do agree, Marineland is definitely on the bottom of the Good Care scale, Sea World is not like how you describe it at all. The Orcas are not forced to do stupid tricks. They are given hand signals by trainers which tell them to do a certain behavior. The "Tricks" that orcas do in shows are ofter the behaviors they do in the wild (I say "often" because natural behaviors doesn't count the Trainer/Orca cooperation behaviors).

  • BabyGlory: The myth that Sea World circus act mimics wild behaviors would be comical if it weren't so sad, and if it didn't cost the lives of so many of these great animals. These animals don't tail walk in the wild, they don't carry morons on their backs, they don't eat dead fish, etc.

  • I really don't like how you referred to Sea World as a "Whale Jail". All except a few of the orcas there were bred in captivity, or captured at a young age. It is illegal to capture wild orcas nowadays, but the orcas that were captured from the wild have since then grown up, and to release ANY of them into the wild would serve as a mistake, as they have no knowledge of the wilderness, and the ones that were wild did not have enough experience in the wild to be released again.

  • Humans don't need to evolve, zoos, and the ways we treat animal need to evolve. About two hundred years ago, animals like hippos, zebras, lions, etc. where kept in terrible conditiosn. ZOOS EVOLVED, AND THEY CONTINUE TO DO SO. Marine animals such as cetaceans and pinnipeds are "new" to zoos and aquariums, things will change.

  • LOPONUMER: Humans will never create an adequate captive environment for cetaceans.

  • They said that humans would never be able to fly a thousand years ago, only gods and godesses could fly... Look where we got now!

  • LOPONUMER: And how many more victims will we sacrifice in our efforts to impress ourselves?

  • Sacrafice? I would never do such a thing! I swear, if I had the funds, I could build an adequate habitat for cetaceans. The cause of capive dolphins' deaths are due to boredom. I'll message you how easily we could make a dolphin in captivity live long after ten years.

  • I admit some do not. The vast majority DO. And of the small minority that do not, most of those donate the meat to food pantries or friends that do eat the meat.

    Also, no answer about habitat and the shopping mall. Small wonder. Activists complain, but seldom actually help animals in any MEANINGFUL way. Hunting generated dollars do indeed go towards saving hunting opportunities. When hunting is abolished, who will pony up and generate the SAME dollars to prevent habitat destruction?

  • TTSinPA: Your post does nothing whatsoever to mitigate the mass killing of animals by hunters.

  • Hunters eat their prey. Sea World doesnt eat Orcas.

    Both groups educate people on the need to save the enviornment of the animals they care about. For all your & PETAs talk, you dont actually DO anything to save habitat. You claim to successfully have closed down the goose hunt club in your other video. When that land is a shopping mall, what good will your actions have done the geese?

    It OK for Orcas to hunt, and theres nothing wrong with people going regulated hunting.

  • TTSinPA: Unfortunately, and whether or not you admit it, many hunters also do not eat the animals they kill.

  • Yeah, they stuff them too. My father still has a grouse he hunted with some friends, they are really smart birds. I suppose people are against stuffing animals XD In any event, its a good childhood memory to look back on

  • The guy in sunglasses was rude, and while he got his point across, he certainly didn't make the spokesman look bad. He handled the aggressive and confrontational guy very well.

    SeaWorld does educate children about the need to protect the whale's habitat.

  • TTSinPA: There are a lot of similarities between Sea World and hunters. Both falsely claim to be saving animals, when in fact they are killing them.

  • Excuse me sir, I would like to know how are they KILLING the orcas, because I've been with my uncle, who is a trainer at Sea World, and I don;t see them using harpoons to teach them tricks!

  • LOPONUMER: These animals die largely from stress related issues due to the total disruption of their lives. They should be swimming 100 miles a day, and not in a tiny pool. They should be hunting and eating live prey, not having dead fish shoveled into their mouths. They should be choosing their own pods. Put yourself in their place. Would you be happy or healthy?

  • Not if they made some adjustments.

  • beautiful and majestic animals. let them go...

  • I don't know what to think right now. Personally, I live too far away to go and see orcas out in the wild. I absolutely LOVE oracs (seriously, they're amazing creatures)!! Sea World is really the only chance I ever got to see one. I agree their tanks are a little small for me personally, but, the stuff they make them do...for the most isn't it taking a few natural moves and setting a cue to it? (Like Spy Hopping) I do get that pushing people isnt natural.

  • DragoneyesLC: I suspect that if you really make seeing an orca in the wild a priority, you will at some point accomplish that goal. Once you see them in the wild, I suspect you'll understand what a tragedy it is to put them in a tank. People may feel that they lose something if they can't go to see orcas in captivity, but what the orcas lose is their very lives and reason for living.

  • Ughh when is the cruelty gonna stop!!! animals are like us!!!! they have feelings and personalities!!!! Some people dont have hearts.And when i was small i always wanted to work with orcas in marineland other places hhaha it turns out its just a jail for animals that didnt even do anything what if all the cruelty that we did turned around i would love to see alll those people learn there lessons!!! Thanks for reading

    Nicole

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  • What is your position on the rehabilitation of wild animals such as birds of prey that that are captured to treat a broken wing. Should they be treated at all or should we simply let nature take its course. If they cant be released due to their injuries should they be put down?

  • DazednConfused0: We would prefer to see those animals saved. They would be good ambassadors to humanity. We suggested this to the marine captivity industry -- take animals that can't live in the wild due to injuries from poaching and such. But the whale jails want animals that aren't scarred or disabled. They want them to do circus tricks. So they steal the freedom of healthy animals, which is indefensible.

  • SHARK, what do you think about Zoo's? Im always 50/50 with them. Animals that are needless to be there, shouldent be. But breeding programs are a tuffy, should some animals suffer to save their race? But then there is that "some" we forget about. I dont mind breeding programs if theyre returned to the wild after, but most of the time this isnt the case.

  • skyandkit: I think we're on the same page pretty much. If an animal is being bred merely to be a prisoner for life, what's the point? If they are truly meant to keep a wild population going, that's different, but those cases are profoundly rare.

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