At the end, her facial expression is priceless - she knows it's not so great, but the public loves it anyway. I first saw Marton as the Empress on stage with Nilsson. She blew the great Birgit away. I've never heard a volcanic sound like that. But as the years went on, her technique was loud, louder, loudest - it wasn't artistic anymore. But she always gave 100%.
Wait a minute. Marton was born in 1943 and this aria was sung in 1988, making her 45. That is hardly old age for a soprano. It's not her fach but she did a great job on an enormously demanding aria. Some of us who are real singers and classically-trained musicians don't nit pick every note a singer produces but look for the emotional and musical content as well. I give her an A+.
You are being tremendously unfair! She is a star in the sky of OPERA, she was one of the best! This is a singer at the end of her career, and she still delivers better than many young so called promising talents, who think they're already divas when not in their wildest dreams would have this kind of reaction from the audience! Give her some credit!
even if she screwed up and you can tell from her face she just wants to get out fo there, she still did her best to deliver the goods as well as she could. a true pro
Some of you are unfairly hard on her. It's not at all bad! This is a mature soprano singing a very, very difficult mezzo-soprano aria in a live performance. She got through it with dignity even if it isn't her repertoire. Give her a break!
I didn't know she sang this, but she delivers it with all the dramatic intensity possible--equal to her Elektra. Technically, she sings it as well as mezzos more famous for the part. Brava, Eva! You always gave 150%.
She isn´t very pleased by herself at the end, but the audience were stunned by her performance. She looked a little bit tired before the last phrase, maybe that´s why her last note is too low and far too short. But, in the 80´s she were one of the major world-wide singers.
@Pywacket2 SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR THE ONE AND ONLY SINGER THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN...LA DIVINA MARIA CALLAS OR ELSE...YOU SING AND SHOW US THE RECORDING !!!!!!!!!!!!
@simisimi9 No disrespect. Marton's performance is effortless. Callas, to my mind, agonized too much. It wasn't really a criticism as I did and do admire the early Callas.
Marton war (ist) wirklich ein Tier. Ihre Elektra war darstellerisch ein absolutes Highlight, mancher Abend auch stimmlich. Sie fehlt mir - und ihre Kabanicha soll sie endlich lassen.
Vocally this really isnt bad, ... interpretively, she needs to pay attention to the tempo, and the markings.. The first section is way too slow and loses its drama.
you guys are nasty! This version was quite dedicated with voca a' plenty for this exciting aria. It was an exellent eastern european version thats all. Brava.
Don't forget guys; she didn't always sing like this. This woman was an amazing Fiordiligi once upon a time. That voice has travelled a long way over the past 30 years. Show some respect
Oh Eva, lol definitely love the look at the end. I guess this is what concerts are for, exploring your voice. So she wouldn't make an amazing Eboli. But she is still such an amazing artist.
I don't know exactly what you are trying to say, henrydaniell: That we can never perform Don Carlo anymore since Shierley Verrett is not there to sing Eboli anymore?
Hands ? Face? !! Did you think she was Callas ? eehhh.. No, but still I like Marton she has a distinct voice and still a good Wagner/Strauss interpreter. So lets let her be.
the face and the hands at the end are priceless!!!! "Well, whatever, you liked it, thats what matters, I just hope there are no real singers in the audience or people who really know!"
Hmmm. Eva certainly makes the listener work with her. The lower register is a little brassy at times, but overall she pulls this off with intelligence and aplomb. Bravo!!
Don't want to spoil your pleasure, but this is a poor and wrong rendition by a heavy dramatic voice that can hardly hit high B! She would fare better as Elisabetta, written for a real Falcon (Marie Sasse.) Don't you see Marton's face at the end? She seems so say: "Well, I got it all wrong, sorry but now it's done!" Try to be more discerning.
No, YOU were talking about Mezzo or Soprano, not me. There is a big difference in the way Marton sings the Cb vs Verrett, but Marton's voice was bigger than Verrett's. I think Marton pushed her middle voice WAY too much, which tends to ruin your top (tenors do ti sometimes too).
Probably just a bad night and the wrong repertoire for her voice - have a look at her Elektra in Vienna in 1989 - a year later(several clips on here) - one of the finest Elektras I have EVER seen, the most committed and compelling of performances that she completely inhabits.
To hear her here I cant believe she sang Turandot well into the 90's and sounded very good. I just credit some of the weird high notes to a less than stellar night.
Lyside you misunderstood me. I said that Eva marton is a great drammatic soprano not that I like her O Don Fatale particularly.I was just answering a mail in which people wqere accused of eunuchs for criticizing without ever singing. I am a singer and wrote I was analizing ( not destroying ) Marton, which DID not mean I loved her O Don Fatale. I prefer real mezzos as Cossotto or Troyanos.
stenrtore afino all'inverosimile...nemmeno la tebaldi sarebbe arrivvata a tanto...tribunizia...in quanto allo stile....verismo del più nero...al finale arriva stremata...il si puntato prima della chiusa non esiste...questo perchè canta di forza e sulla fibra...poveretta
you, stupid checca, instead of telling idiotic things about the great Eva Marton, why don't you see the videos di merda that you chose as favorites, with Verrett who was not a soprano, neither e mezzo and la Callas who was the greatest female dog
I love Eva Marton, from the begining to the end, even when she does a bad high notes like this, because the tempi are too slow and heavy. That's no reason to insult every body around like that about Callas, Verrett, etc. (Could you take your pills please there is no Moderator here.)
I like her thick sound, and barbarian accents (even a bit too much for a princess), but it seems that she has lost slowly her top, compared to her begining. I don't think that this special aria is a mezzo's one, it's really the deadly high for mezzos to sing that b natural straightly attacked, and only falcon voices like Verrett, Bumbry, Stignani,and Baltsa,and sometimes Zajick, had the ease at the top to do it.
I must agree, even if I dislike Cossotto's timbre and musicianship in general.:-)Sorry. But I saw some true sopranos like Crespin, Tebaldi, and here Marton that go straight in the wall, singing this aria. I suppose, there no rule.
And when we are talking about dramatic sopranos may people overlook, Ghena Dimitrova, she has one ofth bigger voces and an even range from top to bottom.
I think that Marton would have been more comfortable singing mezzo-soprano and then maybe a soprano role here or there, another example is marton singing the role of Leonora in Travatore,but I think she was a good Gioconda though.
Egooidios : Tienes razon! Hay siempre comentarios muy disagradables de la parte que se permite de juzgar los demas como se tiendria la verdad! Pesado todo esto.
why do we have to suffer all this comments of know-it-all people? they are like eunucs commenting on how is the act of love better executed... tragedy!
Dear ' egoidios " ( does it mean 'ego and God' ? ) I am no eunuch. I am a professional opera singer who's been singing for about thirty years and been teacher for ten. I am not like those queens who like to destroy sopranos. I was just analizing the vocality of a great, truly great drammatic soprano as Eva Marton.I execute the act of love, I have my good and bad nights in front of audiences, like Marton.
A final comment: Marton always sang on her capital , not her interests. She was not so shrewd as Nilsson who knew how to give only 20% ,jump to 60, 70, never 100%. In 1988 Marton started to have problems.A diet too...I foresaw she was not to have the longest carrer when she had debut as Empress at Teatro Colon with Nilsson ( who was 61 then )Marton is not a mezzo, she is a true drammatic soprano, of thick sound as Varnay.
Wellp, there's an explanation for that. Marton's voice in her prime was bigger than Nilsson's voice. Nilsson didn't have the biggest soprano voice around, but it was so focused and polished and centered that it didn't matter. No to say Nilsson's voice was small; it wasn't. Jones, Rysanek, Marton; they all had larger voices than Nilsson in terms of pure size.
Nilsson had the biggest ' C's ' in the business but was not the biggest voice. I agree. I do not agree that Rysanek or Marton had bigger voices. In my memory i think that there were only two bigger voices : Jones' whom you mentioned, and Crespin's ( With significative difference :Jones over forty years and Crespin in her prime )
No absolutely NO !.Jones voice was not bigger than Nilsson's and Crespin, I agree her size was similar to Nilsson but Crespin LA was effortful, SIb was very effortful and short (she did not existed on SI and DO even in her prime that lasted very short)
Here we go again. Jones had the biggest voice around, bar none. Bigger than Nilsson. I saw Jones live, and I just can't begin to describe the amplitude of that voice. It's like a tidal wave. Nilsson was more like a finely tuned instrument that just cut THROUGH everything. Jones had the voice that rolled over anything in its path. Complete polar opposites.
I agree Nilsson voice is very big not there were soprano with bigger voices than Nilsson, but not Jones specially.Jones had no low notes and her middle not so full, Jones top was very big and wobbly, but the biggest soprano voice
Correction: I meant Jones voice was big on top, but woobly.Jones voice wasn't bigger than Nilsson voice.I agree Nilsson wasn't the biggest voice either
I wish you'd just keep quiet. You really have NO IDEA what you're talking about, and you make yourself look stupid. Next I suppose you'll say that Tebaldi had the biggest voice ever.
YOU have NO idea of voices , you are only a ridiculous opera queen.Miss Jones voice wasn't bigger than Nilsson's.Deborah Voight is a little soprano, a lousy singer whom will remember her in 5 years
Seems like baroque is all you know about Ariodante76, she is clearly a mezzo soprano. If she was a soprano she wouldn't have the trouble she is having for the high C flat on 1.04. Baltsa and Marton are Dramatic mezzo soprano's and not soprano's. And I think she does a good job! Brava!
I'm sorry, Eva Marton was the Turandot of her day, but this is deplorable. Her voice is too grainy, her technique too barbaric, relying too heavily on gut strength. Eastern European sopranos have no business singing this aria. Agnes Balta is equally course.
At the end, her facial expression is priceless - she knows it's not so great, but the public loves it anyway. I first saw Marton as the Empress on stage with Nilsson. She blew the great Birgit away. I've never heard a volcanic sound like that. But as the years went on, her technique was loud, louder, loudest - it wasn't artistic anymore. But she always gave 100%.
wotan10950 3 months ago
Wait a minute. Marton was born in 1943 and this aria was sung in 1988, making her 45. That is hardly old age for a soprano. It's not her fach but she did a great job on an enormously demanding aria. Some of us who are real singers and classically-trained musicians don't nit pick every note a singer produces but look for the emotional and musical content as well. I give her an A+.
marlyharris 7 months ago
@marlyharris A+ is right. Thrilling interpretation.
Pywacket2 5 months ago
You are being tremendously unfair! She is a star in the sky of OPERA, she was one of the best! This is a singer at the end of her career, and she still delivers better than many young so called promising talents, who think they're already divas when not in their wildest dreams would have this kind of reaction from the audience! Give her some credit!
nestorfabianpz 10 months ago
even if she screwed up and you can tell from her face she just wants to get out fo there, she still did her best to deliver the goods as well as she could. a true pro
moghedien13 11 months ago
Some of you are unfairly hard on her. It's not at all bad! This is a mature soprano singing a very, very difficult mezzo-soprano aria in a live performance. She got through it with dignity even if it isn't her repertoire. Give her a break!
dabiscaglia 1 year ago
Someone explain me a thing: if she is so bad, why is the audience so enthusiastic about?
DanielZavagna 1 year ago
I didn't know she sang this, but she delivers it with all the dramatic intensity possible--equal to her Elektra. Technically, she sings it as well as mezzos more famous for the part. Brava, Eva! You always gave 150%.
ploplisphilin 1 year ago
She isn´t very pleased by herself at the end, but the audience were stunned by her performance. She looked a little bit tired before the last phrase, maybe that´s why her last note is too low and far too short. But, in the 80´s she were one of the major world-wide singers.
dannymaestro 1 year ago
what a disaster! horrible
ombreross 1 year ago
Marton sings so effortlessly. Callas looks like she's giving birth.
Pywacket2 1 year ago
@Pywacket2 SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR THE ONE AND ONLY SINGER THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN...LA DIVINA MARIA CALLAS OR ELSE...YOU SING AND SHOW US THE RECORDING !!!!!!!!!!!!
simisimi9 5 months ago
@simisimi9 No disrespect. Marton's performance is effortless. Callas, to my mind, agonized too much. It wasn't really a criticism as I did and do admire the early Callas.
Pywacket2 5 months ago
@Pywacket2 sorry, I over reacted, every opinion is valid , sorry again !!
simisimi9 5 months ago
you niggaz is crazy. this performance is FURIOUS =P
raigekimaru 1 year ago
ich hab von marton schon vieles live gehört.
aber dieser ausflug ins dramatische mezzofach
übertrifft ja alles.
dass die das auch noch kann.
was für ein weib, was für ein operntier.
jocmuc1 2 years ago
Marton war (ist) wirklich ein Tier. Ihre Elektra war darstellerisch ein absolutes Highlight, mancher Abend auch stimmlich. Sie fehlt mir - und ihre Kabanicha soll sie endlich lassen.
Altonahh10 2 years ago
Ah! voilà une femme!
helenequenel 2 years ago
Vocally this really isnt bad, ... interpretively, she needs to pay attention to the tempo, and the markings.. The first section is way too slow and loses its drama.
kgarmaker123 2 years ago
you guys are nasty! This version was quite dedicated with voca a' plenty for this exciting aria. It was an exellent eastern european version thats all. Brava.
Tristiano 2 years ago 2
Don't forget guys; she didn't always sing like this. This woman was an amazing Fiordiligi once upon a time. That voice has travelled a long way over the past 30 years. Show some respect
Prickler32 2 years ago 6
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Vulgar as usual.
operamusicfan 3 years ago
Do you mean your comments? Because I think they're vulgar as usual. As for the aria's rendition, it's intense and fabulous as usual. =)
mrdrodrigues 2 years ago
Do you follow me around youtube and read my comments in order to say they vulgar as usual?
And to answer your question, no, I mean the performance. It's vulgarity can me smelled from miles away.
operamusicfan 2 years ago
Oh Eva, lol definitely love the look at the end. I guess this is what concerts are for, exploring your voice. So she wouldn't make an amazing Eboli. But she is still such an amazing artist.
mcknighty11 3 years ago
No, no and no! Shirley Verrett is Eboli. What character did Ms. Marton think she was portraying? The singing was pretty bad, too.
henrydaniell 3 years ago
I don't know exactly what you are trying to say, henrydaniell: That we can never perform Don Carlo anymore since Shierley Verrett is not there to sing Eboli anymore?
martello79 2 years ago 2
Una Santuzza impazzita.....
askar78 3 years ago
Poor Eva looks like she's in pain at the end...and what's with the "That wasn't so bad" look?
pagliacci83 3 years ago
Hands ? Face? !! Did you think she was Callas ? eehhh.. No, but still I like Marton she has a distinct voice and still a good Wagner/Strauss interpreter. So lets let her be.
iValkure 3 years ago
the face and the hands at the end are priceless!!!! "Well, whatever, you liked it, thats what matters, I just hope there are no real singers in the audience or people who really know!"
Anyway, I still love her lower notes!!!!
trumansf 3 years ago 3
Hmmm. Eva certainly makes the listener work with her. The lower register is a little brassy at times, but overall she pulls this off with intelligence and aplomb. Bravo!!
albertthrelkeld 4 years ago 3
shirley and grace will show anyone a thing or two about this aria
johngarner3 4 years ago 2
Don't want to spoil your pleasure, but this is a poor and wrong rendition by a heavy dramatic voice that can hardly hit high B! She would fare better as Elisabetta, written for a real Falcon (Marie Sasse.) Don't you see Marton's face at the end? She seems so say: "Well, I got it all wrong, sorry but now it's done!" Try to be more discerning.
GoldenAgeSunshine 4 years ago
I kind of agree in the fact that she would most likely have made a wonderful Elisabetta.
mcknighty11 3 years ago
She ends the aria without voice, the final "salverò" should be much longer. Overall she's good however.
Itaboy24 4 years ago 2
non mi piace
arredifestivi 4 years ago
No, YOU were talking about Mezzo or Soprano, not me. There is a big difference in the way Marton sings the Cb vs Verrett, but Marton's voice was bigger than Verrett's. I think Marton pushed her middle voice WAY too much, which tends to ruin your top (tenors do ti sometimes too).
BeauTenor 4 years ago
BRAVA!!! Digan lo que digan Eva Marton es MARAVILLOSA!!!!
macielnegrete 4 years ago
Probably just a bad night and the wrong repertoire for her voice - have a look at her Elektra in Vienna in 1989 - a year later(several clips on here) - one of the finest Elektras I have EVER seen, the most committed and compelling of performances that she completely inhabits.
frauohneschatten 4 years ago
To hear her here I cant believe she sang Turandot well into the 90's and sounded very good. I just credit some of the weird high notes to a less than stellar night.
DIVOTENOR 4 years ago
Greatfan listen as it is sung o don fatal from Tatyana Troyanos and learn. If you like eva marton as dramatic soprano change your work.
lyside1 4 years ago
Greatfan listens as it is sung o don fatal from Tatyana Troyanos and learns. If you likes eva marton as dramatic soprano change your work.
lyside1 4 years ago
Lyside you misunderstood me. I said that Eva marton is a great drammatic soprano not that I like her O Don Fatale particularly.I was just answering a mail in which people wqere accused of eunuchs for criticizing without ever singing. I am a singer and wrote I was analizing ( not destroying ) Marton, which DID not mean I loved her O Don Fatale. I prefer real mezzos as Cossotto or Troyanos.
Greatfan 4 years ago
stenrtore afino all'inverosimile...nemmeno la tebaldi sarebbe arrivvata a tanto...tribunizia...in quanto allo stile....verismo del più nero...al finale arriva stremata...il si puntato prima della chiusa non esiste...questo perchè canta di forza e sulla fibra...poveretta
lyside1 4 years ago
you, stupid checca, instead of telling idiotic things about the great Eva Marton, why don't you see the videos di merda that you chose as favorites, with Verrett who was not a soprano, neither e mezzo and la Callas who was the greatest female dog
moreno2394 4 years ago
I love Eva Marton, from the begining to the end, even when she does a bad high notes like this, because the tempi are too slow and heavy. That's no reason to insult every body around like that about Callas, Verrett, etc. (Could you take your pills please there is no Moderator here.)
foropera 4 years ago
Eva's singing beautiful and powerful as usual. Few comments here just lost the plot!
rughetta 4 years ago
I like her thick sound, and barbarian accents (even a bit too much for a princess), but it seems that she has lost slowly her top, compared to her begining. I don't think that this special aria is a mezzo's one, it's really the deadly high for mezzos to sing that b natural straightly attacked, and only falcon voices like Verrett, Bumbry, Stignani,and Baltsa,and sometimes Zajick, had the ease at the top to do it.
foropera 4 years ago
Look at Cossotto's two renditions uploaded in youtube (ten years in between).
It doesn't seem that she has any problem hitting the high c-flat, and she's a real mezzo (no falcone).
AmatureComposer 4 years ago
I must agree, even if I dislike Cossotto's timbre and musicianship in general.:-)Sorry. But I saw some true sopranos like Crespin, Tebaldi, and here Marton that go straight in the wall, singing this aria. I suppose, there no rule.
foropera 4 years ago
Intonation uncertain.Omly ok no more
saverioorlando 4 years ago
And when we are talking about dramatic sopranos may people overlook, Ghena Dimitrova, she has one ofth bigger voces and an even range from top to bottom.
tjaphrodite 4 years ago 3
I think that Marton would have been more comfortable singing mezzo-soprano and then maybe a soprano role here or there, another example is marton singing the role of Leonora in Travatore,but I think she was a good Gioconda though.
tjaphrodite 4 years ago
Egooidios : Tienes razon! Hay siempre comentarios muy disagradables de la parte que se permite de juzgar los demas como se tiendria la verdad! Pesado todo esto.
marcocito 4 years ago
why do we have to suffer all this comments of know-it-all people? they are like eunucs commenting on how is the act of love better executed... tragedy!
egooidios 4 years ago
Dear ' egoidios " ( does it mean 'ego and God' ? ) I am no eunuch. I am a professional opera singer who's been singing for about thirty years and been teacher for ten. I am not like those queens who like to destroy sopranos. I was just analizing the vocality of a great, truly great drammatic soprano as Eva Marton.I execute the act of love, I have my good and bad nights in front of audiences, like Marton.
Greatfan 4 years ago
A final comment: Marton always sang on her capital , not her interests. She was not so shrewd as Nilsson who knew how to give only 20% ,jump to 60, 70, never 100%. In 1988 Marton started to have problems.A diet too...I foresaw she was not to have the longest carrer when she had debut as Empress at Teatro Colon with Nilsson ( who was 61 then )Marton is not a mezzo, she is a true drammatic soprano, of thick sound as Varnay.
Greatfan 4 years ago
Wellp, there's an explanation for that. Marton's voice in her prime was bigger than Nilsson's voice. Nilsson didn't have the biggest soprano voice around, but it was so focused and polished and centered that it didn't matter. No to say Nilsson's voice was small; it wasn't. Jones, Rysanek, Marton; they all had larger voices than Nilsson in terms of pure size.
BeauTenor 4 years ago
Nilsson had the biggest ' C's ' in the business but was not the biggest voice. I agree. I do not agree that Rysanek or Marton had bigger voices. In my memory i think that there were only two bigger voices : Jones' whom you mentioned, and Crespin's ( With significative difference :Jones over forty years and Crespin in her prime )
Greatfan 4 years ago
No absolutely NO !.Jones voice was not bigger than Nilsson's and Crespin, I agree her size was similar to Nilsson but Crespin LA was effortful, SIb was very effortful and short (she did not existed on SI and DO even in her prime that lasted very short)
moreno2394 4 years ago
Here we go again. Jones had the biggest voice around, bar none. Bigger than Nilsson. I saw Jones live, and I just can't begin to describe the amplitude of that voice. It's like a tidal wave. Nilsson was more like a finely tuned instrument that just cut THROUGH everything. Jones had the voice that rolled over anything in its path. Complete polar opposites.
BeauTenor 4 years ago
I agree Nilsson voice is very big not there were soprano with bigger voices than Nilsson, but not Jones specially.Jones had no low notes and her middle not so full, Jones top was very big and wobbly, but the biggest soprano voice
moreno2394 4 years ago
Correction: I meant Jones voice was big on top, but woobly.Jones voice wasn't bigger than Nilsson voice.I agree Nilsson wasn't the biggest voice either
moreno2394 4 years ago
I wish you'd just keep quiet. You really have NO IDEA what you're talking about, and you make yourself look stupid. Next I suppose you'll say that Tebaldi had the biggest voice ever.
BeauTenor 4 years ago
You are very bad educated and very ignorant.Just reading your painful posts about that disaster calles Deborah Voight who is nobody like you
moreno2394 4 years ago
YOU have NO idea of voices , you are only a ridiculous opera queen.Miss Jones voice wasn't bigger than Nilsson's.Deborah Voight is a little soprano, a lousy singer whom will remember her in 5 years
moreno2394 4 years ago
One of your favorites is Bumbry/Verret E una anatema, that it is a piece if shit ! a laughable version for ignorants creatures like you.
moreno2394 4 years ago
LOL...Oh my god you're stupid. Just listen to yourself...you can't even form a coherent sentence.
BeauTenor 4 years ago
Marton unique!!!!
Amphipolis 4 years ago
Seems like baroque is all you know about Ariodante76, she is clearly a mezzo soprano. If she was a soprano she wouldn't have the trouble she is having for the high C flat on 1.04. Baltsa and Marton are Dramatic mezzo soprano's and not soprano's. And I think she does a good job! Brava!
ypofero86 4 years ago
I'm sorry, Eva Marton was the Turandot of her day, but this is deplorable. Her voice is too grainy, her technique too barbaric, relying too heavily on gut strength. Eastern European sopranos have no business singing this aria. Agnes Balta is equally course.
ariodante76 4 years ago
brava
jonaspiano 4 years ago
i adore Marton....vive LA MARTON!
wenarto 4 years ago
Great...Especially in lower range
hillevifan 4 years ago