@satanicinternational I agree with you on the saving your money and not waste it on the CoS, Satan represents knowledge, read and read satan will say. Education=Satan
I have never seen the first edition in hardback of the Satanic Bible. I do have a 95 cent copy of the Avon's first edition of the Satanic Bible which does have the dedication page in it. I liked the select bibliography of The Compleat Witch. Some of the passages From The Devil's Notebook could be found in the Cloven Hoof (mid-1970's editions). I wrote Remembering Anton LaVey for the Thelema Lodge Newsletter (February 1998). I used Satanism to deprogram myself from Christianity's influence.
The Devil's Notebook is the one for me! I think you have to bear in mind what was around at the time - in the way of alternative books, I mean Anton certainly put Satanism 'out there' in the public domain, and really motivated people to explore Satanism, even by default the theistic side of Satanism, so all in all I support Anton and his work.
P.H. Gilmore is utilizing Lesser Magic in an artful and appropriate way. What do people want him to do, lower his voice and flex his biceps? What's important about that? Read his book, my friend, and perhaps you'll enjoy noticing his finely tuned and original perspective on Satanic thought.
Z, you didn't understand the "doorman" analogy for what it was. As I said, he opened the door, but couldn't walk through - that makes him a doorman. What door? That of Satan as metaphysical reality (watch my Lord of Midnight video) rather than simply a team mascot. LaVey was overly reactionary (q.v. his focus on "indulgence") when he could've been truly proactive.
Meaning he could have drawn an independent meaning for Satan rather than a dependent one. His Satanism was a REaction to Christian mores rather than being a self-defined metaphysic.
I agree with that. However, why co-opt a symbol when you're creating your own system? This negates the purpose of using 'Satan' as a symbol in the first place. It has no value on it's own.
Indulgence is primal. It's not a reaction to an outside influence.
JK...Now is Lavey really an Atheist ?? I think not..He talks of Satan an unknown Dark force that influences the world? I have a feeling LaVey believed in a Master,but watered down his works to make them more presentable to the masses
There is no REASON to think that about LaVey. Sure, Satan does represent the hidden/unknown force(s) in nature, but why should an impersonal force be elevated above the self when it is just that: impersonal and unknown? To suggest otherwise, you would have to make a lot of unfounded assumptions about the nature of reality. Likewise, you would have to make a lot of unfounded assumptions about LaVey to suggest that he would even subscribe to such notion. There is simply no reason to.
Well in the beginning CoS was a "secret collage" an occult college with various studies and courses. Even now Steve Flowers teaches philology @ UTexas. He was ex CoS and ToS. ToS mind You was born from infighting amongst the Cos college on Deists Who were not looking for a Deity but found One and Atheist Satanists. Don't let time bury these strange truths.
DUDE i fucking laughed so hard at the pinecone again. i cant believe you kept it around hahaha. priceless!
Yeah @ bibliography I've seen it, it's huge. also the dedication page.. the dedication page creeps me out, some things are so abstract.. what's goin on haha
I always like to remind everyone that the CoS never says that joining is required in order to be a Satanist. Quite the contrary. I don't think the CoS is meant to help it's members in anyting, it's just meant to give Satanism a legitimate representation to the media and the general public.
I also think Boyd Rice is too much into politics to be a High Priest. Though you're probabley right on one thing, he would probabely give the CoS more balls than Peter could. Idk.
Organized Religion is still Organized Religion. This has been Humanity's biggest Plague since it began long ago. World's Oldest Profession before Prostitution that came from Religion in Fact.
right on bro....post it to my videos.,if you want. I am running thin on Ideas ( 630 videos now) ..I am biting of of Jason Kings...lol . But, most of his videos are over my head..lol
Most Satanists are all mouth no action....LaVey no exception.
MrFreelove69 2 years ago
@MrFreelove69 Exactly what kind of action do you expect from a satanist?
AmurgAprins 2 years ago
@MrFreelove69
Feel free to replace "Satanists" with the word "humans".
VS
TheIchor 1 year ago
@satanicinternational I agree with you on the saving your money and not waste it on the CoS, Satan represents knowledge, read and read satan will say. Education=Satan
moonhowlerwolf13 2 years ago
I have never seen the first edition in hardback of the Satanic Bible. I do have a 95 cent copy of the Avon's first edition of the Satanic Bible which does have the dedication page in it. I liked the select bibliography of The Compleat Witch. Some of the passages From The Devil's Notebook could be found in the Cloven Hoof (mid-1970's editions). I wrote Remembering Anton LaVey for the Thelema Lodge Newsletter (February 1998). I used Satanism to deprogram myself from Christianity's influence.
Nguli34689 2 years ago
The Devil's Notebook is the one for me! I think you have to bear in mind what was around at the time - in the way of alternative books, I mean Anton certainly put Satanism 'out there' in the public domain, and really motivated people to explore Satanism, even by default the theistic side of Satanism, so all in all I support Anton and his work.
nargargole 2 years ago
P.H. Gilmore is utilizing Lesser Magic in an artful and appropriate way. What do people want him to do, lower his voice and flex his biceps? What's important about that? Read his book, my friend, and perhaps you'll enjoy noticing his finely tuned and original perspective on Satanic thought.
hauntedsouth 2 years ago
Great video man!
TheDarkVII 2 years ago
Z, you didn't understand the "doorman" analogy for what it was. As I said, he opened the door, but couldn't walk through - that makes him a doorman. What door? That of Satan as metaphysical reality (watch my Lord of Midnight video) rather than simply a team mascot. LaVey was overly reactionary (q.v. his focus on "indulgence") when he could've been truly proactive.
jason666king 2 years ago
cool JK I will go dig up lord of midnight
satanicinternational 2 years ago
Heh.
Proactive in what?
How is 'being proactive' not indulgence?
shawnhartnell 2 years ago
Meaning he could have drawn an independent meaning for Satan rather than a dependent one. His Satanism was a REaction to Christian mores rather than being a self-defined metaphysic.
jason666king 2 years ago
I agree with that. However, why co-opt a symbol when you're creating your own system? This negates the purpose of using 'Satan' as a symbol in the first place. It has no value on it's own.
Indulgence is primal. It's not a reaction to an outside influence.
shawnhartnell 2 years ago
JK...Now is Lavey really an Atheist ?? I think not..He talks of Satan an unknown Dark force that influences the world? I have a feeling LaVey believed in a Master,but watered down his works to make them more presentable to the masses
satanicinternational 2 years ago
There is no REASON to think that about LaVey. Sure, Satan does represent the hidden/unknown force(s) in nature, but why should an impersonal force be elevated above the self when it is just that: impersonal and unknown? To suggest otherwise, you would have to make a lot of unfounded assumptions about the nature of reality. Likewise, you would have to make a lot of unfounded assumptions about LaVey to suggest that he would even subscribe to such notion. There is simply no reason to.
hauntedsouth 2 years ago
Well in the beginning CoS was a "secret collage" an occult college with various studies and courses. Even now Steve Flowers teaches philology @ UTexas. He was ex CoS and ToS. ToS mind You was born from infighting amongst the Cos college on Deists Who were not looking for a Deity but found One and Atheist Satanists. Don't let time bury these strange truths.
niza310 2 years ago
indeed
satanicinternational 2 years ago
The Satanic Scriptures is a really good book, I think I got my money's worth when I purchased it.
MerlinRavenSong 2 years ago
DUDE i fucking laughed so hard at the pinecone again. i cant believe you kept it around hahaha. priceless!
Yeah @ bibliography I've seen it, it's huge. also the dedication page.. the dedication page creeps me out, some things are so abstract.. what's goin on haha
xxxmikiexxx 2 years ago
I always like to remind everyone that the CoS never says that joining is required in order to be a Satanist. Quite the contrary. I don't think the CoS is meant to help it's members in anyting, it's just meant to give Satanism a legitimate representation to the media and the general public.
I also think Boyd Rice is too much into politics to be a High Priest. Though you're probabley right on one thing, he would probabely give the CoS more balls than Peter could. Idk.
evilmick66 2 years ago
go to gilmore and say give me my money he will be like dont kill me lol
5* zach \m/
impulsetospit 2 years ago
hehe I am growing my Gilmore beard out right now
satanicinternational 2 years ago
:-D
impulsetospit 2 years ago
Organized Religion is still Organized Religion. This has been Humanity's biggest Plague since it began long ago. World's Oldest Profession before Prostitution that came from Religion in Fact.
Lylyth480 2 years ago
Buy your way into heaven!
satanicinternational 2 years ago
Man, you're giving me so many ideas for videos and video responses. My upload list is going to fill up fast lol.
Hatesfury08 2 years ago
right on bro....post it to my videos.,if you want. I am running thin on Ideas ( 630 videos now) ..I am biting of of Jason Kings...lol . But, most of his videos are over my head..lol
satanicinternational 2 years ago
I'll do that. When I get a full day off work I'm gonna make like ten videos in a row lol.
Hatesfury08 2 years ago