Air America's Thom Hartmann on Paula Zahn, 5/21/07, 2 of 2

[iflyboats]

Ben = fucking faggot

[VerseInfinitum]

There's a stark difference between patriotism and nationalism. Mr. Martin and Mr. Hartmann reflected America's true patriotism by knowing the full history of relations between foreign countries and what we did wrong. However, being in denial and refusing to reexamine historical facts that weren't easily available to the general public to learn is a common problem throughout America including. The CIA and other agencies know much about why resentment toward America exists than what we're told.

[Awakin2liberty]

Ben is a little bitch!

[apotcake13]

Americans are too stupid to live up to the democracy their founding fathers envisioned. The stupid and weak just get fed propaganda to vote against their own interests, and the rich and powerful keep getting richer and more powerful on the backs of the poor and stupid

[Lightmane321]

What Ben actually believes...

Hey what about America? We hate them.

Oh yeah. Why do we hate America again?

Ummm..... because we just do. We always have.

So.... no reason?

No. We just like to hate America.

Cool.

[paradoxman316]

Ben is totally clueless. In fact, they are all clueless when they continue to push the lie that Muslims had anything to do with 9-11. They did NOT make NORAD stand down. They did NOT blow up the 3 World Trade Center buildings in controlled demolition fashion. They could NOT have fired the rocket into the Pentagon. Wake up! 9-11 at best, had to have people inside our own government and military looking the other way.

[jahellaspartan]

Ben (as polite as I could be) .... you're a delusional dumb ass!

[mongoose704]

Ben:

America is a great place to hate because of chickenhawk cowards like you.

[zayadnay]

how much are they paying this kid with the elephant ears to do his propagandist job>? lool it's hilarious to hear the rhetoric being used by him and others as simple facts when things are never simple

[TheDecidicator]

Guiliani and Ferguson sound as if they graduated from the same asylum.

[fukprc]

Ron Paul's a tit - if we want to listen to those who attacked us, then we should listen to Kissinger and Brzezinski and Emanuel and the Rockefellers and all the faggots at Bohemian Grove

[smylzk]

Ferguson is such a tool.

[quest8899]

Wasnt Paula Zahn fired

[AnyeongF91]

@quest8899 she quit

[kurd55]

If I was Ben Ferguson, I wouldn't mention Mickey Mouse too often---he looks like Mickey himself! And has anyone noticed that Ferguson isn't around anymore? HA-HAA!

[oliodoscious]

Why do I want to bitch slap that Howdy Doody in the puss? I must be an angry liberal

[gemriderz]

Holy sh#t. Ben Ferguson is an immature little moron who needs to get outside. What a moron. One of those "my government would never do that to us" types.

What a dupe. Or a terrible job he took for a lot of money to stand up there and pretend to be completely blind, stupid, and ignorant.

Change is needed? It certainly will NOT come from any Rep' of Dem. Try looking at the Federal Reserve. Or do a little reading of the 'real why' of the American Revolution.

Time to wake up, people.

[mikepiazza]

I am sure Ron Paul has some metal shrapnel in his head. Ronald Martin just got his GED. Tom Hartman is a liberal piece of shit!

[enigma53545]

And you're a dumb shit talking neo-con that needs to have some Iraqis peel your dick like a banana and role it in salt and behead your dumb ass for fucking up their country and killing their people for your goddamn cheney and his oil buddies. It's fuckers like you that trade logical, reason and critical thought for blind party loyalty (truth be damned) that make the rest of the world spit.

Go to hell and take the rest of your limbaugh tit sucking neo-con trash with you.

[enigma53545]

my comment was a reply to 'mikepiazza' stupid comment.

[Meloman0001]

I guess your one of those people that don't like to read about history.

[KhmerD0g]

ruddy, do u know why osama attacks us? explain it to me.

[natesworld23]

who was that kid that said Rep ron paul is a nobody? that guy was the dumbest one of these kids ive seen yet. they (R) have people defending their cause that have no idea about the world and absolutely no life experience. That Party, the Republican party, has been taken over by a group of godless liars, Ironic how they prey on the people whom only have faith alone. Our Government (after 7 1/2 yrs of bush) has failed miserably in representing our values to the world. Change is needed, Obama08

[sphinxrising58]

Paula seems to forget we was asked to go over to the middle east and save the Saudia Arabians from big bad Saddam.

[fearonism]

Bens a fool.

People dont blow up their kids for nothing.

[tdominey]

That kid Ben is just awful.

[ahabthewhaler]

you really do have to be so insanely naive to just want to call a large group of people crazy and not want to understand what they are thinking

[RobOntiveros]

Rudy Guiliani is the biggest D-bag I have ever seen. Man, I wish that guy were the Republican candidate...

[yankee4321]

I want to punch the big ear right wing idiot in the face!!!

[RobOntiveros]

Which one?

[gavrilo2007]

Wow, they gave all of 5 minutes to discuss the impact of American foriegn policy on radical Islamic terrorism. They could've done it in half the time, though, if they had just done a word association game. What's the point of complete sentences, anyways?

[reyesjaen07]

That Ben Ferguson rich white kid needs a reality check. He is out of touch with reality. I don't know what world he has lived in. Send him to the middle east or Latin America and let him learn a lesson in US foreing policy. I bet you, he wouldn't come back thinking that way... Oh, I meant to say, if he ever makes it back.

[RimlandThesis]

The White Guy in the middle is a propagandist and should be kicked in the nuts (I'd say shot but I'm afraid if the CIA will show up at my house....oh crap! Didn't I just write that?)

[GOREN13]

lol

[ruralpotter]

Who is this child who doesn't listen with his big ears. You can't label entire groups of people as just bad and crazy as a means of shucking off responsability. "They" are wrong to commit crimes against humanity, but that doesn't mean that we are completely innocent. In both family and international dynamics, there is rarely a person/group that is completely innocent.

[blitz131]

Ben's dream is to get an invitation to Bohemian Grove and a pair of knee pads.

[MrSlowskie]

lol so true

[Rockstar97321]

I didn't put you in that group. Read it again.

[hoagoaway]

The little boy in the middle with the bowl hair cut is a complete moron. He has no logic, and cannot think.

[Rockstar97321]

Hartman makes a lot of good points; but he, just like Rush Limbaugh, is all caught up in this right vs. left thing. Both of them do not realize that the most powerful rulers in the world don't like public attention; and they also don't care what party gets in office - as long as they adhere to their will. Hartman must think these people do not exist. That's why he's totally baffled when the democrats & republicans act in lockstep.

[GtrGeorge]

Do you listen to Thom Hartmann much? I have for some time and I you think misunderstand him on this point...he isn't baffled by that at all. He often mentions Big-Money corporate interests playing a tremendous role in US Policy.

[Rockstar97321]

Well, he almost has it right, George. The international bankers are at the top of Pyramid Earth. Does Thom ever mention them? I don't think so. The banksters created the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg, Bohemian Club, etc; and they control Congress, the military, and the biggest corporations. They also founded the unconstitutional private Federal Reserve bank; and they are behind the IMF and the World Bank. They are the puppetmasters of world leaders.

[GtrGeorge]

Lets be really clear here...objective,even. Could this world have progressed as it has without banking? Could anyone achieve great flows of capital without banks? I think you attach evil objectives to organizations which while not altruistic, are not the SOURCE of the trouble. Can you produce inner office memos that prove your conspiracy theory? I can show you corporate agendas in press relases everyday that take aim at your quality of life. That, IS provable. and your proof?

[Rockstar97321]

George: Proof is everywhere; but you have to look; and you won't find it on TV. Google search terms like: "Bloodlines of the Illuminatti", "Who owns the Federal Reserve", "Members of the CFR", "Secret Rulers of the World". This is conspiracy fact. Banking is necessary; but it is corrupt at the highest levels. I don't blame you for not knowing this; not many people do. This knowledge is for people who have risen above the vulgar crowd - the Latin Scholars and the Philosophers. It's your choice.

[Rockstar97321]

George: Proof is everywhere; but you have to look; and you won't find it on TV. Google search terms like: "Bloodlines of the Illuminatti", "Who owns the Federal Reserve", "Members of the CFR", "Secret Rulers of the World". This is conspiracy fact. Banking is necessary; but it is corrupt at the highest levels. I don't blame you for not knowing this; not many people do. This knowledge is for people who have risen above the vulgar crowd - the Latin Scholars and the Philosophers. It's your choice.

[GtrGeorge]

Rockstar, I get your reference to vulgar revolution etc, but I have to conclude that if the best evidence is held by a miniscule minority and it has never been able to bear scrutiny over the years, well...I HAVE to conclude its bogus. I know people in banking,pretty high up, I might add. It's not what you think. If you were to suggest these things at a meeting of stockholders people who work those dreary jobs would roll their eyes. They would WISH banking were that exciting.

[Rockstar97321]

If a 3 hour video is too long for you, watch "Secret Rulers of the World - Vatican Hoarding Part 5 of 29" It's 11 minutes long. It's the first of my favorites on my YouTube site. "Zeitgeist" is good, too. It's my featured video. Also, "Secrets of the Federal Reserve" on my YouTube site. And there are a few more on my YouTube site. Namaste.

[GtrGeorge]

"the latin scholers and philosophers..." Im going to give you another decent shot at proving this, name these scholars and philosophers,please.

[Rockstar97321]

There is a documentary on video dot google dot com that explains it. It's called 'The Money Masters'. It's about 3 hours long. It's a good place to start. I hope that you can fathom that this is not the kind of thing that can be explained in 500 characters or less. When you & your buddies own or control all the media, & all they've done for generations is rule the planet, it's pretty easy to hide the truths & write history your way.

[GtrGeorge]

Rocker, they aint my buddies..and you're winning any arguments by putting ME in that group. U know alot of people, dirtbags and saints alike...and because I know them doesnt make me one of them. When people like you and I can be civil maybe this World can improve. Until then...please lets now waste what little time we have on "the blame game".

[cleanarab]

fuck ben ferguson.man that guy is a total sellout nobody.he has a local show here in my city.and he sucks.whenever i call and even try to debate about ron paul he kicks me off the phone.he blows.man that dude is a joke.

[junkdrum]

At any given moment, Thom Hartman will be the smartest person in the room, especially when the other person in the room is Opie.

[kinggzz]

the "boy" ben seems 2 b holding on 2 childish ideas that the bully is always the best bet and that there is never a price 2 pay at any time 4 being the bully. if he wants 2 act like a silly little "boy", we should treat him like a little "boy" and say....go 2 your room little boy, no dinner 4 u 2nite. lmgfao

[abusalahedin]

This guy Ben is an idiot. He is as a republican as could be. He doesn't know anything about foriegn policy.

[chuck1967]

That's the problem, they will always use 9/11 for going into Iraq but, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. I don't even think Osama had anything to do with 9/11 the CIA did and the CIA bombed the WTC in 1993. Why do people keep forgetting the known knowns? They needed 9/11 to take us to war with Iraq. End of story.

[freakyfatdog]

Hartman is right the crazy Muslim brotherhood always hated our liberal government of the 50s but they wouldn't have turned their efforts away from the secular leaders of the middleeast and their even greater irritation of European colonialism to target America if it wasn't for our foreign policy. Al Qaeda would have continued to target and get their but kicked by Europe and secular Islam.

[zeelog1]

To all you poor people who are facing the cold winter coming soon, we should use people like Ben Furgason for fule... he looks fat and greesy...he'd burn nice and hot.

[peacerebelgirl]

get a clue ben - all the others on the panel seem to have one...

[cookimonstizzle]

i hope you're not including Zahn. lol

[mongoose704]

@peacerebelgirl

He is a typical chickenhawk.

BTW: Just because one wants to slap that fat faced chickenhawk dweeb doesn't make him/her liberal. It means they have a sense of principle! I am a Republican and I want to pound the crap out of him.

[lostorfound19]

bullshit Ron Paul has won more of the straw polls than anyother republican. he is the leading canadate of the people. number one on youtube, numberone in the straw polls number one in cash on hand... Ron Paul or riot! check the facts and get back to me

[reno1917]

Typical with the right and most americans nobody ever wants to look at the facts that our foreign policy is what is leading to us being hated around the world it's not our freedoms or our life style people it's our policies wake up!!!!!

[BRENDAMAJORS]

Ben looks like Son of Pat Robertson. That same insipid yet evil smile. "Fundamentalists are seldom rational." He's at least right about that. I'll bet he knows a lot of them personally.

[compaqowner]

Ben is a liar the Christian fundamentalists hate America as well they don't so far plant bombs on themselves, but a few have bombed planned parenthood clinics and murdered OBGYN's who performed abortions.

[nativeops]

we're screwed, these assholes need to go to hell, SOON.

god bless RON PAUL

[apollodionysus7]

THIS is what constitutes and interesting DISCUSSION in this day and age? There was no time to respond to each other, no time for them to justify their opinions.

We hear things like this, and then we choose sides based on our predispositions, whether it be towards peace and thoughtfulness, or towards fighting and anger. We need to raise the level of journalism and of political discourse in this country.

[Chippen101]

06:20 "then why isen´t sweden tending to blow us up"

lol

Ben is a narrow idiot, he can´t reson at all

[EmotionLotion]

except Ben didn't say that, Thom did. but nice one.

[ProspectorSam]

"You guys are smart guys; please tell me you understand that Ron Paul is a no-one who wanted to make a name for himself so he said something a little bit extremely crazy to get some notoriety."

Yo, Ben... see those 3 fingers pointing back at you? {snicker}

BTW, what did Roland(?) on the left mouth at the end? I don't read lips too well. =.=

RP 08 FTW

[traceurjason]

Either that bloke Ben is completely brainwashed or he is dumber than a bag of hammers! The scary bit is minds like that currently have governmental power in the United States.

[scooticus]

The U.S. and G.B. have been fucking around in the Middle East for at least a century and we are surprised they hate us? This right-wing twit in the middle says Muslims are crazy and haters and suicidal? At least they are comitted enough to make the ultimate sacrifice. If an invading force was in the U.S., I'd do all I could to kill as many as possible, would'nt you? Check out Thom Hartmann's radio program, and learn...

[shonspirulina]

understanding why something happens is not the same as condoning it. if we dont learn from history... something happens.

[adocat1]

Good lord..... I'm not sure if I was watching a football entertainment channel or a news video. Thom brings sanity to the entire discussion.

[bigge525]

Oh my god, a politician just told the truth!!!

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?!!!! Oh, that's right, we'll

just put words in his mouth and smear him!!!

[Hypster123]

fuck cnn, fuckin silly bastards

[buttflunky2100]

Ben Ferguson would suck a dick for a cheeseburger

[ProspectorSam]

For a real life example of that, search on mccain+florida+"oral sex"

Obligatory fair disclaimer: It's not about McCain, but it is about someone connected to him.

RP 08 FTW

[daddyphattycake]

LOL

[rldsaxton]

that ben guy has got to be the most ignorant and annoying person ive ever seen

[shmulimn]

Watch the greatest minds of today argue like school children in the playground!

[irishgrappler1069]

So let me get this straight,..you can only have an opinion on a war, if you were in one? WOW, love that freedom of speech thing! what was it called??

[proudfootz]

That kid in the middle should be in Iraq, right?

[mcches33]

Ben said they attacked us because "they are crazy." So an entire race of people is just coo-coo? That is about the most simplistic explanation for one of the most complicated issues in world history that I have EVER heard. It's easy to digest, so it goes down easy. They hate us cuz we are free and they are crazy. Good vs. Evil. Wrong vs. Right. Which side are you on? If you disagree with Ben then you are unpatriotic and deserve to go live in Iraq.

[PinkoCommyCoulter]

Agreed!!! - I was thinking of what to post after listening to that clown. Your post says everything I wanted to say and more, well done.

[robbedgonzo911]

The person in the center of the screen, is an absolute liar and a hypocrite and everything he said was Un-American, untrue or treason.

One day the American people will have a fair public discourse on the criminal (pre-emptive war) foreign policy the invisible hand forced on the American people using our military against us(riots, patriot act) and our corporations(regulated free market (oxymoron)) to attack free speech(fox).

[rcpmac]

Well what do you expect when you ask a simpleton a question - that's what you get - a simplistic explanation. The kid is 24 WTF is he doing there anyway?

[truthout911]

Ben = Nazi

[jerryjam2]

Oh how cut a little baby nocon thats so cut he even sounds like them.

[Tangento]

Thom Hartmann needs his own show on CNN. PERIOD. (and BTW, he has stated that he will absolutely never run for public office)

[DblOSmith]

Damn Juliani is a slimey slithering snake. Disgusting.  ...and Ben knows he sounds absurd. Look at how he smiles when he talks. He's about to bust out laughing at himself. Fool.

[safuna]

If Ferguson feels so strongly, why isn't he in the Army over there?

[herrherron]

Paul, Hartmann 08 ... hmmm

[safuna]

Or Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman?

[investortownhall]

Young Ben, do you know nothing about Western involvement in the middle-east over last 1000yrs. Every heard of the Crusades? How about our 1950's involvement in Iran? Did you fight in Korea or Vietnam or Iraq? Do you know about Russians 10 War in Afghanistan? Were you born in 1990? Why aren't you fighting in Iraq? Ron Paul knows history and he's been to wasted wars. Republicans want to discredit Ron Paul anyway they can because he was only Republican who tried to get USA to avoid Vietnam II.

[takadi]

BUSH HAS AUTHORIZED A DICTATORSHIP!!!

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[annarboriter]

Who is the punk in the middle and why would he ever be invited to share his opinion to any forum?

Does anybody know who his daddy might be? Is he Tucker's kid brother?

[goneresistance]

Ben is absolutely ridiculous, just like most guys who grow up in Germantown, TN. Notice how he kept coughing when Thom and Roland were talking? Ben thinks only he could possibly be correct about anything.

Vote Ron Paul!

"When the government fears the people, there is liberty."--Thomas Jefferson

[climberjde]

It's people like this Ben guy that perfectly demonstrates the absurd and emotion driven basis of our war on "terror". They hate that we are there invading and occupying their soil, NOT THAT WE ARE FREE. It specifically says right in the Koran that "invade and occupy an islamic country, invoke Jihad." To me, "terrorism" has more to do with the fact that we have invaded and occupied their countries for years and years, and less to do with the fact that "Americans are rich and free".

[PizzaGod]

Ron has already stated that he will not run as a libertarian if he does not get the nod from the republiicans.

Now if he wins the nomination, I could see the Libertarian and Constitution parties along with several other 3rd parties indorsing him for president.

[PuritanBookshop]

Paul said on Hannity & Colmes that he will not run as an independent. That statement does not exclude him from running as a Libertarian Party, Constitition Party or joint-party ticket.

[manplatypusman]

hmmm... interesting discussion. hey! lets do not rate this video, and copy-paste this message in your text comments just to test how faw we will go..ha???

[eolineala]

Is Rudy for free speech???? The Youtube Vid "Rudy: Republicans Better Reflect What American People

Want" screens its comments for approval. Am I volating a Youtube policy by posting this?

[anyusmoon1]

Yeah, we've all seen how restrictive Giuliani's Youtube pages are. Only the most sculpted (friend) replies are allowed. Hillbillery's sites look much the same. Not sure I see what you mean about your violating Youtube, but it doesn't look like it to me.

[headbutt34]

GEE is our media biased against Muslims.

NOT A POSITIVE RESPONSE? What were the polls showing!!!

Gosh does our Jew owned media blindly support ALL Israeli causes?

HMMMMMM.

No. They'll call me an ANTI-SEMITE. Not true.

Wake up America.

Just the facts. That's all it is. Don't kill the messenger.