@thevoiceofreason93..Eratosthenes, a Greek come up with the size of the earth in 240 B.C., and as for science and math, yes there was an explosion of knowledge in the mideast until Islam came along. I have read your Quran, It's no different than any other "holy book" written by ancient, ignornat, desert savages with no knowledge of how the world works. Nothing has ever been proven as fact in ANY "holy books" It ALL has to taken on "faith", and "faith" is gullibility period.
"Islam" is NOT science ! It's a disgusting, violent, Backwards phony religion. Islam KILLS people who don't agree with them. Treats women like animals. It wants to keep everyone in the 12th century, with FEAR AND VIOLENCE! All "religion" is man made bullshit, and don't try and tell me that Islam is anything but ancient superstition.
@odiewan58 Well sir. With my respect to your knowledge and theology, but you can't accuse a whole race on individual acts. Likewise, you can't say all white are racists because a white man blowed up blacks at a Dr. Luther King Jr memorial event.
Treating Women like animals is mostly in Pakistan and Afghanistan, which only represent 10% of the Muslim population. Also, violent against women in Arabia is 25%, LESS than the united States (30%). Anyways, 60% of the Muslim population is in Asia!
That applies only to modern day extremists, i'm afraid, extremists who are complete pricks who oppose all good Enlightenment values, do things that are against even the Koran and the word of God, and hate science. (This hatred however, was caused the long reign of conflicts between west and Islam started by the Crusades). This is Islam of the past, then it was Muslims who are responsible for preserving much Classical knowledge and developed great forms of science and maths
MEMRI TV has among its YouTube videos one called "Muslim Scientist: Neil Armstrong Proved Mecca - World Center."
First, Armstrong is a Muslim only in the sense that Muslims say we ALL are. But the video is three minutes of the stuff that separates the gullible from the thoughtful because, throughout, a Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid (an Egyptian) presents a jaw-dropping wish list of idiocies that he seems to accept as genuine science. It's a must-see for all who doubt Muslim credulity.
Since the Baghdad-church bombing, over seventy people have died in mosque bombings in Darra Adam Khel and Badhbir, Pakistan, "apparently aimed," said one news service, "at people who had declined to support the Taliban."
Only people who are sure they're right could do such a thing, and only people who do not think could feel so sure. Certainty is far more likely to result from NOT thinking than from thinking, which raises doubts. The church and mosque bombers couldn't THINK what else to do.
did you bother watching the video? or are you another professional internet troll?
All of you are the same, you are merely sheep with the head of a parrot only repeating what your masters tell you to..."hate muslims" no god" hate muslims" no god" nice birdie heres a cracker for you ^^
Are bothering to watch the video and being a professional troll the complete range of possibilities that occur to you, Smoking? I have NOT watched the video in over a year and I drop notes here as they occur to me to drop.
A Muslim calls an infidel a sheep? That's pretty rich, wouldn't you say? The most consistent Muslim personality trait is refusal to base in reality the things he holds in his head. ISLAM is Muslims' only "reality."
Islam is the arrogant imposition of ignorance upon a world Muslims cannot compete in so must defeat in order not to betray the retrogressive man who made depravity a virtue, Muhammad.
To aid victory, Islam maintains a choir of adherents so dim or devious as to sing narcotic lullabies about the justification, or unreality, of the bombings and beheadings that "Allāhu akbar!" attends. Islam extols violence behind a made-up god, hides under lies, and rejects the value of thought.
MUSLIMS are condemned to hell, readers, because they're not believers. To believe, one must have the freedom to disbelieve, which the Qur'ān's proscription against questioning Islam (5:101-02) and death penalty for drawing the wrong conclusions about Islam (4:89) prevent. Muslims may HAVE Islam, but not CHOOSE Islam, just as an American could not CHOOSE a black car during WWII. Muslims have Islam as thoughtfully as a rock has Islam. This is a glitch that hadn't occurred to Islam's inventor.
@bangfarang : you can disbeleive anytime you want , what is the problem ? you can be a disbeleiver with no one know about it even if you are afraid of people talking to you about that .
It is a time where , wealth and a fair amount freedom & culture mix came together , people of the Islamic Empire lead the World scientific movements !
Any halfway aware person knows that early Islam contributed worthy scientific advances and would not dispute the point. The problem is that Islam has been taken over by people who seem to ask "What would Muhammad do?" and come away with answers that do not grace humanity. Many Muslims today pretend that Islam is responsible for all scientific advancement.
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Science fiction author Frank Herbert strongly implies in his famous "Dune" novel, that the Fremen of Arrakis, are in fact the distant descendants of modern day Arabs.
Bullshit; Arab men are pussies, there is no way they'd conquer a creature like the Shai Hulud. The Arabs are not man enough for worm riding, however I am.
@bangfarang before islam arab lands didnt know what sciene is but when islam came and god asked muhammed and told him that knowledge is important every thing changed
Real, those for whom fictions are as good as facts can never be wrong. When we heard the old big-band number "Wishing Will Make It So," we knew it was simply a romantic hope. But Muslims apparently imagine that wishing creates reality in the very act of wishing (in the same way that they seem to imagine that WORDS dominate reality). "It all started at the time of muhhamed [sic]"? You're a child. You create Islam in your head. Paper can be traced to the Chinese in about 104 CE. Time to grow up.
I don't believe, Real, that you sent the "now your just saying random stuff" note to my mailbox. (The contraction for YOU ARE is YOU'RE, not "your.")
What I wrote is NOT random, but it seems to have overwhelmed your capacity to understand. Why is that? Could it be because you depend on the Qur'ān to tell you all you need to know?
Islam is the greatest evil humanity has ever had to deal with.
Real, the struggle between Islam and the West can be seen as between people who cling to fictions because, respectively, 1) they have so little attractive history to be proud of and 2) others have made the world Muslims first borrowed from and now feel bitterly envious of. Early Islamic science sat atop Aristotle's shoulders FAR more certainly than Muhammad's.
@bangfarang I'm extremely aware. I'm not sure how people credit the Muslim religion with these scientific achievements instead of the people who made them...how is a religion responsible for scientific advancements? Surely it's the people? Why do people not say that certain discoveries or advancements are Christian or Catholic? It seems to me that Islam is a religion that uses propaganda in science to make it seem greater than it is. And many of these inventions/discoveries can be disputed
@bangfarang don't believe everything you hear. One of the most famous of 'muslim' men in their 'history of science' was reprimanded for NOT actually being a muslim by the muslims themselves. Doesn't stop them from saying what he discovered was muslim though. Always question what you hear & never be scared to question religion. To not question such a thing would be closing your eyes to the world...
I'm not sure what you're responding to, Rachie. If it's to my defense of early Muslims' scientific advances, I don't how you could dispute that. But that energy began to wane in about 1500, evidently under the weight of rising fundamentalism, which put Islam in the doldrums until oil was discovered under Muslims' feet.
Moreover, those discoveries were perhaps exclusively in the exact sciences AND led to precious little creativity, creativity being God's realm, presumptuous for humans to enter.
@bangfarang As I said. Why are these discolveries muslim? Why accredit these discoveries to islam? Like I said, surely a religion is not responsible for these things...it's the people who make the discoveries, not the religion or what the people's spiritual beliefs are. Muslim's scientific advances built on other knowledge. If it wasn't for early knowledge, there would be none of these discoveries and where was islam when people discovered this knowledge? Nowhere to be seen
They're Muslim because Islam is a way of life that oversees every ASPECT of a Muslim's life. Terrorists who are Muslims are Islamic for the same reason. Islam once had scientific energy, though it has always substantially lacked creativity. The overriding personality of Islam today is of defense of Islam, itself, for being so backward. By extension, that defense is of Muhammad, HIMself.
@bangfarang Yes. I have seen defence of Muhammed. But why defend a man who was a paedophile & advocated lesser Jihad & then say Islam is a religion of peace & love? And why all the different translations? Surely if you're to follow a religion you must learn to read the holy book in the language in which it is written, otherwise it is changing the wording of allah? Why is that allowed? And why the need to defend Muhammed in the first place? Surely those who defend him have doubt in their minds
@bangfarang I know - sorry! Just ranting. I just cannot understand it at all (well, I can but I can't...if you see what I mean?!) Sorry for all the comments - sometimes you just have so many questions that you just want to ask and so much that you want to know that you keep asking and you can't stop...!
Bukhari Vol. VII, No. 673: Narrated Abu Huraira: Allahs Apostle said, If a fly falls in the vessel of any of you, let him dip all of it into the vessel and then throw it away, for in one of its wings there is a disease and in the other wing there is healing.
why every good and useful piece of work on youtube has at least 3 or 4 dislikes ,while some songs have sometimes 100,000 like and zero dislikes..
there must be something going wrong around us .
mado1o 3 months ago
Its o.k to admit the role played by our great scientists and other like in today's western advancement of science for the betterement of humanity.
mura430 7 months ago
@thevoiceofreason93..Eratosthenes, a Greek come up with the size of the earth in 240 B.C., and as for science and math, yes there was an explosion of knowledge in the mideast until Islam came along. I have read your Quran, It's no different than any other "holy book" written by ancient, ignornat, desert savages with no knowledge of how the world works. Nothing has ever been proven as fact in ANY "holy books" It ALL has to taken on "faith", and "faith" is gullibility period.
odiewan58 8 months ago
"Islam" is NOT science ! It's a disgusting, violent, Backwards phony religion. Islam KILLS people who don't agree with them. Treats women like animals. It wants to keep everyone in the 12th century, with FEAR AND VIOLENCE! All "religion" is man made bullshit, and don't try and tell me that Islam is anything but ancient superstition.
odiewan58 9 months ago
@odiewan58 Well sir. With my respect to your knowledge and theology, but you can't accuse a whole race on individual acts. Likewise, you can't say all white are racists because a white man blowed up blacks at a Dr. Luther King Jr memorial event.
Treating Women like animals is mostly in Pakistan and Afghanistan, which only represent 10% of the Muslim population. Also, violent against women in Arabia is 25%, LESS than the united States (30%). Anyways, 60% of the Muslim population is in Asia!
adamrce 9 months ago
@odiewan58
That applies only to modern day extremists, i'm afraid, extremists who are complete pricks who oppose all good Enlightenment values, do things that are against even the Koran and the word of God, and hate science. (This hatred however, was caused the long reign of conflicts between west and Islam started by the Crusades). This is Islam of the past, then it was Muslims who are responsible for preserving much Classical knowledge and developed great forms of science and maths
TheVoiceOfReason93 8 months ago
MEMRI TV has among its YouTube videos one called "Muslim Scientist: Neil Armstrong Proved Mecca - World Center."
First, Armstrong is a Muslim only in the sense that Muslims say we ALL are. But the video is three minutes of the stuff that separates the gullible from the thoughtful because, throughout, a Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid (an Egyptian) presents a jaw-dropping wish list of idiocies that he seems to accept as genuine science. It's a must-see for all who doubt Muslim credulity.
Utter madness
bangfarang 1 year ago
Since the Baghdad-church bombing, over seventy people have died in mosque bombings in Darra Adam Khel and Badhbir, Pakistan, "apparently aimed," said one news service, "at people who had declined to support the Taliban."
Only people who are sure they're right could do such a thing, and only people who do not think could feel so sure. Certainty is far more likely to result from NOT thinking than from thinking, which raises doubts. The church and mosque bombers couldn't THINK what else to do.
bangfarang 1 year ago
@bangfarang
did you bother watching the video? or are you another professional internet troll?
All of you are the same, you are merely sheep with the head of a parrot only repeating what your masters tell you to..."hate muslims" no god" hate muslims" no god" nice birdie heres a cracker for you ^^
YoureSmokingCrack 1 year ago
Are bothering to watch the video and being a professional troll the complete range of possibilities that occur to you, Smoking? I have NOT watched the video in over a year and I drop notes here as they occur to me to drop.
A Muslim calls an infidel a sheep? That's pretty rich, wouldn't you say? The most consistent Muslim personality trait is refusal to base in reality the things he holds in his head. ISLAM is Muslims' only "reality."
bangfarang 1 year ago
@bangfarang me only who is call Christians stray sheep and atheist blind sheep !
and sure this not Islam teaching !
iam just trying to wake you up blind sheep :))
pulman7 1 year ago
Islam is the arrogant imposition of ignorance upon a world Muslims cannot compete in so must defeat in order not to betray the retrogressive man who made depravity a virtue, Muhammad.
To aid victory, Islam maintains a choir of adherents so dim or devious as to sing narcotic lullabies about the justification, or unreality, of the bombings and beheadings that "Allāhu akbar!" attends. Islam extols violence behind a made-up god, hides under lies, and rejects the value of thought.
It's madness.
bangfarang 1 year ago
MUSLIMS are condemned to hell, readers, because they're not believers. To believe, one must have the freedom to disbelieve, which the Qur'ān's proscription against questioning Islam (5:101-02) and death penalty for drawing the wrong conclusions about Islam (4:89) prevent. Muslims may HAVE Islam, but not CHOOSE Islam, just as an American could not CHOOSE a black car during WWII. Muslims have Islam as thoughtfully as a rock has Islam. This is a glitch that hadn't occurred to Islam's inventor.
bangfarang 1 year ago
@bangfarang : you can disbeleive anytime you want , what is the problem ? you can be a disbeleiver with no one know about it even if you are afraid of people talking to you about that .
hgbtester 1 year ago
great show
RealRapAndHiphp 1 year ago
thank you
redhut26 1 year ago
It is a time where , wealth and a fair amount freedom & culture mix came together , people of the Islamic Empire lead the World scientific movements !
Drhlony 1 year ago
Any halfway aware person knows that early Islam contributed worthy scientific advances and would not dispute the point. The problem is that Islam has been taken over by people who seem to ask "What would Muhammad do?" and come away with answers that do not grace humanity. Many Muslims today pretend that Islam is responsible for all scientific advancement.
bangfarang 2 years ago 8
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Science fiction author Frank Herbert strongly implies in his famous "Dune" novel, that the Fremen of Arrakis, are in fact the distant descendants of modern day Arabs.
Bullshit; Arab men are pussies, there is no way they'd conquer a creature like the Shai Hulud. The Arabs are not man enough for worm riding, however I am.
stardingo747 2 years ago
Haha! That was funny. Dude, those water recycle suits are awesome.
MorfeuV 2 years ago
@bangfarang before islam arab lands didnt know what sciene is but when islam came and god asked muhammed and told him that knowledge is important every thing changed
RealRapAndHiphp 1 year ago
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bangfarang 1 year ago
@bangfarang you are wrong it all started at the time of muhhamed they made paper at his time it all started there
RealRapAndHiphp 1 year ago
Real, those for whom fictions are as good as facts can never be wrong. When we heard the old big-band number "Wishing Will Make It So," we knew it was simply a romantic hope. But Muslims apparently imagine that wishing creates reality in the very act of wishing (in the same way that they seem to imagine that WORDS dominate reality). "It all started at the time of muhhamed [sic]"? You're a child. You create Islam in your head. Paper can be traced to the Chinese in about 104 CE. Time to grow up.
bangfarang 1 year ago
@bangfarang now your just saying random stuff
RealRapAndHiphp 1 year ago
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I don't believe, Real, that you sent the "now your just saying random stuff" note to my mailbox. (The contraction for YOU ARE is YOU'RE, not "your.")
What I wrote is NOT random, but it seems to have overwhelmed your capacity to understand. Why is that? Could it be because you depend on the Qur'ān to tell you all you need to know?
Islam is the greatest evil humanity has ever had to deal with.
bangfarang 1 year ago
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Real, the struggle between Islam and the West can be seen as between people who cling to fictions because, respectively, 1) they have so little attractive history to be proud of and 2) others have made the world Muslims first borrowed from and now feel bitterly envious of. Early Islamic science sat atop Aristotle's shoulders FAR more certainly than Muhammad's.
bangfarang 1 year ago
@bangfarang I'm extremely aware. I'm not sure how people credit the Muslim religion with these scientific achievements instead of the people who made them...how is a religion responsible for scientific advancements? Surely it's the people? Why do people not say that certain discoveries or advancements are Christian or Catholic? It seems to me that Islam is a religion that uses propaganda in science to make it seem greater than it is. And many of these inventions/discoveries can be disputed
Rachiejane1 1 year ago
@bangfarang don't believe everything you hear. One of the most famous of 'muslim' men in their 'history of science' was reprimanded for NOT actually being a muslim by the muslims themselves. Doesn't stop them from saying what he discovered was muslim though. Always question what you hear & never be scared to question religion. To not question such a thing would be closing your eyes to the world...
Rachiejane1 1 year ago
I'm not sure what you're responding to, Rachie. If it's to my defense of early Muslims' scientific advances, I don't how you could dispute that. But that energy began to wane in about 1500, evidently under the weight of rising fundamentalism, which put Islam in the doldrums until oil was discovered under Muslims' feet.
Moreover, those discoveries were perhaps exclusively in the exact sciences AND led to precious little creativity, creativity being God's realm, presumptuous for humans to enter.
bangfarang 1 year ago
@bangfarang As I said. Why are these discolveries muslim? Why accredit these discoveries to islam? Like I said, surely a religion is not responsible for these things...it's the people who make the discoveries, not the religion or what the people's spiritual beliefs are. Muslim's scientific advances built on other knowledge. If it wasn't for early knowledge, there would be none of these discoveries and where was islam when people discovered this knowledge? Nowhere to be seen
Rachiejane1 1 year ago
They're Muslim because Islam is a way of life that oversees every ASPECT of a Muslim's life. Terrorists who are Muslims are Islamic for the same reason. Islam once had scientific energy, though it has always substantially lacked creativity. The overriding personality of Islam today is of defense of Islam, itself, for being so backward. By extension, that defense is of Muhammad, HIMself.
bangfarang 1 year ago
@bangfarang Yes. I have seen defence of Muhammed. But why defend a man who was a paedophile & advocated lesser Jihad & then say Islam is a religion of peace & love? And why all the different translations? Surely if you're to follow a religion you must learn to read the holy book in the language in which it is written, otherwise it is changing the wording of allah? Why is that allowed? And why the need to defend Muhammed in the first place? Surely those who defend him have doubt in their minds
Rachiejane1 1 year ago
Well, why defend Muhammad is not a question for me to answer, Rachie.
bangfarang 1 year ago
@bangfarang I know - sorry! Just ranting. I just cannot understand it at all (well, I can but I can't...if you see what I mean?!) Sorry for all the comments - sometimes you just have so many questions that you just want to ask and so much that you want to know that you keep asking and you can't stop...!
Rachiejane1 1 year ago
@bangfarang or else wy would they feel the need to defend him? I just don't understand it...
Rachiejane1 1 year ago
Behold, the scientific knowledge of Islam....
Bukhari Vol. VII, No. 673: Narrated Abu Huraira: Allahs Apostle said, If a fly falls in the vessel of any of you, let him dip all of it into the vessel and then throw it away, for in one of its wings there is a disease and in the other wing there is healing.
billwilburforce 2 years ago
That's a Hadith! Which is not subject to follow.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
interesting...
perhaps it's about a subject that we need to look into...
javabeserk 2 years ago 2
Thank you for making me proud of the history of my religion and culture. I hope other people would have a chance to watch it. thanks a lot
aima917 2 years ago 22
Its not your religion :P Islam is the nature of mankind :PP
TANDY6688 2 years ago 2
a bit outlandish, isn't it?
Neoklaki 2 years ago
@TANDY6688 Don't offend non-muslims with your patronising ideas. It's actually quite disgusting. Thanks
Rachiejane1 1 year ago
@Rachiejane1 your welcome :)
TANDY6688 1 year ago
@aima917 - It has nothing to do with your religion. Why grab religion into everything?
indogitrust 1 year ago
allahu akbar
bouzehouane01 2 years ago
Jazakallahu Khayra for posting this.
Masalaama.
sairahy 3 years ago