Maybe it is me, but how do you seriously get any satisfaction from this? It is pure mechanical shooting with a person doing the math and putting their finger on a trigger that probably has about a one pound pull on it. This is like shuffleboard of shooting, an old timers game. No insult to the grey hairs; I'm 36 and have been pummeled in comps by grey hairs. I just don't get this type of shooting.
@ruger2275 It is a little more than pulling the trigger. All prepaprations, getting the rifle tuned up to be accurate, selecting the correct components, scope etc. Working up the ammo load and fine tune it etc. Sandbags and rests must also be corract. A good part of the work is in the element between the ears ! And ofcourse learn to shoot in the wind, evaluating same wind for same shot. And believe me you will only learn to shoot in the different wind conditions with an accurate rifle
@birgrunar I know and understand that any type of shooting, if one wishes to be successful, is a brain game and dependent on quality gear. Thanks for a good response but my opinion was based on a personal preference, and not seeing how this is enjoyable. I guess it is like the people who work out complex equations as a hobby. We all have our individual deals that give us pleasure. My intention was not to rip the video....just respectful opinion.
why even aim and pull the trigger? Why dont you just have a machine do it all for you? I dont see why anyone would consider a benchrest shooter any good at all if this is the ways its done. Do benchresters get any respect or do real riflemen laugh at them?
is this how bench rest shooting is done? LOL looks like no fun at all. Also that has to be the dumbest looking so called rifle Ive iver seen, nice hot pink stock dude!
@mr1000rx Ok. I am surpriced that they do not ban kitchen knives and automobiles ! I personally have never observed a gun killing a person. It usually takes a person with a weapon, knive, gun or a club to name a few.
@eddyage Really! I shot a pretty nice group just the other day. It was a 3/8" 3 shot group at 100 yards. Nothing high tech. No lead sled just me my rifle and sand bags. The rifle was a Marlin 336W 30-30 with a 20" barrel. That's right an old lever action. Ammo was Federal 170 grain round nose from Wal Mart. Now if the guy in the video can do better than that with the same rifle and ammo THEN I will be impressed.
@wrangomonger Then why do you make these idiotic statements?
"Sorry but I fail to see how this is some sort of accomplishment. Hold that rifle against your shoulder, time the break of the trigger with your heart beat and get the same group at 500 meters and I'll type a glowing testament of your rifleman's prowess."
@wrangomonger Bench rest is a testament to the operator's knowledge and preparation.. machining and maintaining the rifle, developing and loading the rounds, tuning it all to work together as a precise machine. Read about what bench rest is, and what it is not, and you'll likely respect it a lot more. The major advances in small arms accuracy usually come from what bench rest shooters develop.
And I'll hazard a guess that he's probably a pretty good shot off the shoulder as well.
I can see the "usefullness" in this if your advertising the MOA of a gun you might be trying to sell or just attesting to the accuracy of it... But I as a (VERY faithful) bench shooter, see no fun in this! Completely agree with the comment about no longer being the skill of the shooter but rather the quality of the equipment!
@weeman558 So, if somebody could use a gunner's sight and get a cannon to drop a round on a target 5km away... you wouldn't appreciate the skill that went into designing the gun, the ammunition, the sight, and the operator's ability to get it all working together for first-shot accuracy?
My experience with 6mm PPC is to set bullet 0.007 inch into riflings on a new barrel.Later when barrel begins to burn a little, set the bullet a little deeper into riflings, 0.010 inch the first time and then 0.012-0.014 inch.
This I do with Berger 68 grain bullet. This can be a little different with other bullets, but the initial setting of 0.007 inch is a my favorite with most bullets in 6mm PPC.
Holy cow now THATS good grouping. Can you tell me when you reload do you have the projectile on the lands or do you give them clearnce? Also if theres clearance how much?
I shot a same hole 3 round group with an AI in .308 at 100 metres. The first time I had fired the rifle which belonged to someone else. It was a stock rifle ('scuse pun).
im gonna sound like im blowing my own horn here but comming from new zealand i hunt every weekend and i hand load all my own ammo and get groups like that or better from all my rifles or i get rid of them ive shot a hare at 750 yards and a typical shot for me is around 200 to 300 yards on rabbits with either my .223 or my k hornet and i have a target martini action i get 5 rounds through the same hole at 100yds, and i only use a bipod no bench rest and dont need a bipod at 100m to shoot rabbits
@silvermediastudio if u give me your email ill send you some photos of next time im out hunting ive got 2 work up some new loads for my .223 and my 2 7mm rifles i have a photo of a 5shot group n 1 fly away (my fault) frm my .22 martini action. at the mo ive got some problems with 1 of my 7mm rifles wont shoot under 2" group but my tika t3 with fedral premium is shooting 1/2" groups at 100m and im hoping with hand loads to get that to keyhole better still come to NZ ill take you out for a hunt
Great gun although I'm not liking the colour. I don't bench rest shoot or compete but do reload. This is an art on it's own and a great number of people don't understand. A perfectionist could spend hundreds of different combinations of loads to get that size of grouping. Great shooting and load safe. Great vid thanks
how do you get any joy out of this??? this takes zero talent y even own a rifle or shoot technically ur not even shooting the rifle i really dont see how this is so full filling
@heiney69 What you and alot of ppl dont understand about this shooting is that its not about actually firing the weapon, its more about the ammo reloading. Personally Ive never done this style of shooting but trust me to load ammo THAT accurate takes alot of time and patience, theres more to it than just getting powder weight and seating right. The shot is just the result of the product, sure the rifle has to be of good quality also but if you havent reloaded try and see how accurate you get
All you need is a remote or a auto timed trigger activator and you can sip coffee and read the newspaper. Is there a iPhone application for this ? (wink)
he is only doing this to show how accurate the rifle is while eliminating the human variable. In reality, people can shoot rifles that accurately, but that is not what he was saying. he is pretty much giving kudos the the person that created this masterpiece of a rifle by showing how precise it's shooting pattern is. Not trying to hit the bulls eye.
People who make comments against benchrest shooting simply don't understand the sport. It is much more difficult than it appears, and achieving a group like this is the culmination of the effort rather than being the whole show. Precision shooting is a totally different sport than field shooting or combat-style competition, and is not really a spectator sport. But that doesn't make it any less viable as a sport.
@JAKEKING777 This is what bench rest is. It's really more about who has the more accurate rifle with the most accurate loads and the most accurate calculations rather than pure marksmanship.
I I can undertand the point of view some have about bench shooting. It isn't for everyone. I personally enjoy holding 4 inch center mass groups at 500 meters, but sniping is my forte. However, the technical aspect of bench shooting is the foundation of firearm and ordinance design and offers shooters a venue of non combative shooting sport. It may not be my cup of tea but I'm glad there are those that take it seriously so that new products arise from their experience.
the point if the vid is to show the precision of the custom rifle barrel,trigger ect. you guys are missing the point. a factory made mass produced rifle uses the same die for the rifling almost 30 times before changing them. inconsistency in production will not put the bullet through the same hole no matter how tight you mount it to a table
Surely this takes the enjoyment out of shooting, if the rifle is clamped in place how can it not shoot through the same hole over and over and over again.I doubt wind would do it at 100y with a round as fast as this.
I can get better groupings with my .223 remy 700 at 100m just shooting off a bipod. This gives me more satisfaction as i have to do my bit as well as the rifle.
Fair enough this rifle will do better than mine out at further ranges but for 100y this sucks.
@bunnysniper22 The wind always effects the bullet. AFAICS birgrunar hasn't stated a muzzle velocity. But let's assume it is 1000m/s (3281fps) for the sake of the argument. Then we can compute the wind drift at 100m, for the Berger bullet, with a ballistics calculator (e.g. JBM): 1m/s (3.3fps) wind, from the side, will change the POI by 7mm! If you want to shoot tiny groups you better know how to read the wind (flags). Because if you can't you will never be able to shoot tiny groups on COMMAND.
match shooting is a one hole of the first shot and it is mic to the dial of that hole second shot is checked to see if you busted out of that dial and so on
Benchrest shooting is a wind reading sport. Is it easy? Absolutely not. Many talented shooters from other disiplines have tried benchrest shooting and are not competative. Winning group aggregates are often .1 to .2 inches in high winds. If you ever try it, good luck!!
I am a complete amatuer myself who punches paper and hunts. Learning from some guys who DO know what they are doing I am surprised at the amount of prep that goes into making a clean steady shot. They usually take a minimum of 8-10 secs prep per shot and shoot quarter size groups at 200 yards, which is what I want to be able to do. Position shooting is a highly developed skill
All that being said, great vid, great shooting, but why pink for that beast dude?
Arguably though..once you take the human out of the equation what is there to compete for? Who has the best stuff? Who has the best rifle? You don't even look through the scope when you pull the trigger. I don't understand why people do this it's like your competing over nothing unless theres some skill here I'm not noticing?? On top of that you don't even hit the bulls eye cause it damages your aiming point..understandable but isnt that the point--to hit the bulls eye? lawl...
@aberry9475 You can not take the human out of the equation, the human is always there. Rifle do not shoot by them selves, there is always a human behinde it.
@birgrunar Honestly..I see the sport a little differently now. But I probably would feel comfortable letting an ape shoot the gun, considering you aren't even looking down the scope when you take the shot. Please don't see my opinion as an offensive jesture or me being proud, it's just my opinion...everyone has one. When I get old and can't physically hold a gun, I might do this. Other than that I see now reason to do this sort of shooting. Sorry if this is offensive.......................
@Kramer10205269 Take your ape with you to a BR shoot and see how you do ?
You might be surpriced ! This is a one type of rifle shooting for maximum accuracy of
man and rifle. Your opinion is your opinion, does not mean you are right ?
In BR shooting you can learn very much, in shooting, wind evaluation, reloading, cleaning rifle barrels, sighting in scopes, and other technical things from the most knowledgable gunsmiths and shooters in the business. Try it out, you will learn It is a promise
@Kramer10205269 I can undertand the point of view some have about bench shooting. It isn't for everyone. I personally enjoy holding 4 inch center mass groups at 500 meters, but sniping is my forte. However, the technical aspect of bench shooting is the foundation of firearm and ordinance design and offers shooters a venue of non combative shooting sport. It may not be my cup of tea but I'm glad there are those that take it seriously so that new products arise from their experience.
@aberry9475 I agree, it is a shame when men let technology take away the challenge of sport. In this great vid, the shooter must consider the wind, ammunition type, barrel "coldness" and other factors. But you have a point, the adjustable rifle stand takes away the tension from the shooter, and shoot from a comfy chair is much easier than laying over rocks. In my opinion, such great equipment and skill should be used in extreme range shots, like half mile or 1000-yard, for real challenge.
@aberry9475 No, in this sport the bullseye is irrelevant. Most of the skill is in building and tuning a rifle with the utmost precision, and assembling handloads that work perfectly with the rifle. In looking at the shooting and the practical accuracy, you are missing the entire point.
What people overlook or are unaware of is that nobody can stand up and shoot a .1 moa group offhand. Nobody. We are not machines, no matter what you see on TV. But this sport is not about athletic prowess.
@aberry9475 no the point is not to hit the bulls eye if you were in br you would know that. If you dont know anything about what your talking about why do you insist on talking about it. This video wasnt to show his kill, it was to show what a br custom gun can do. Not everythng is a dick measuring contest!!!
@brandeno15 shame he is so right about he says though. it doesnt seem at all intresting. and soon we have the robots to truelly take the human out. well see what you got to say then. why do we insist to talk about something we know nothing about ? haha what a dumb thing to say. i hope you arent religious or youd be extremely hypocrite to top it all off ^^ have a nice day
@aberry9475 Yeah, nobody ever competed to build the fastest drag car, or the best painting, or the most efficient solar vehicle.
The skill is in the preparation, the attention to detail, all the steps it takes to get the equipment to perform at the absolute limit. Don't like it? There's dozens of other shooting competitions you might like, from IPSC to Cowboy Action to paintball.
Thats not real rifle shooting, clamp your gun down and pull the trigger, errr no. Look up sirslotalot on youtube, he will show you how to shoot for real !
@Sturmmann -.- thats only 100 meters i mean yeah i know thats a bit of a distance but this guy doesnt have to steady it or anything, people hit 1000 yards with a normal rifle
I really can't see the point of it all (or the bullet strike come to that) but each to their own I suppose. Just what serious amount of skill is required with a gun clamped to the bench? I like to hold my rifles and shoot from the shoulder, standing, sitting, kneeling or prone.
This is the gayest thing I've ever seen. This does not take skill. I'm sorry. Pick up the fucking gun and actually shoot it if you want respect. This makes me sad.
@goaliestar1010 Making noise with a gun garners no respect. Anyone with a finger can do that. Shooting small groups takes work and talent. You have no knowledge of this event, and it shows.
@chakathewolf I'm sorry but I can't respect a "sport" that has removed the entire human element. The gun is stabilized and bolted to weights. He doesn't need to use anything more than a finger to shoot. I'm sorry but this just isn't impressive. Do this free aiming and you're amazing. Even the video's creator says that all they're looking for is max accuracy, but that's not that hard when you have fine adjustments attached to the gun and it's been stabilized.
@goaliestar1010 The rifle is not bolted to weights. It is in a sandbag rest. That makes it easier, but it still takes precision handloading, Extremely fine muscle control and skill in reading wind and mirage to shoot groups in the fraction of an inch range. To each his own, but to me this is so much better than watching the urban ninjas rack of magazine after magazine and never hit anything. Heck, a pack of firecrackers would have the same effect and be a lot cheaper!
I'm sure I'm like others in that I see BR shooting as more of a strategic game. #1 is the rifle and your gear. #2 Is the ability to know your weapon and read the conditions of the environment. It's not so much physical precision like standard rifle competition. When you remove that element, you set the bar higher, and competition becomes less random and more competitive.
@qweer999999999 Give it a try, attend a match as a visitor, talk to BR shooting competitors. Ask them all the imaginable questions about the sport.
They might offer you to shoot a practice group for the fun of it.
Actually BR rifle shooting IS THE ROOT of rifle shooting, after all rifles are about accuracy. This is the sport which is setting the standards in quality manufacturing, of actions, barrels triggers, riflescopes etc.
@birgrunar "Actually BR rifle shooting IS THE ROOT of rifle shooting" I strongly disagree with the statement, but I support shooting sports of any kind! so if you enjoy it then that's that! BR has always felt like watching robots play pong--a little lifeless. Team tactical courses on the other-hand are very exciting to me as they feature gear, wits and skill against novel scenarios. just my 2cents.
@Gordonalways1 . Those my friend are the fundamentals of marksmanship. Throw in reading heat, mirages and temperature and I reckon you have it wrapped up. This guy seems to cope quite well at all of them.
@birgrunar well id say rifles are about shooting a traget where its game or paper etc... i think what qweer99999999 is getting at that the shooter should be more involed. ie use the rifles but not the bench rest that way its more the skill of the shooter that deterimes who wins not the rifle
@qweer999999999 true i think this would be fun to see who can hit the furthest target type stuff but when you want to decide who the best shooter is, sand bag supports all the way and shoulder mounted rifle shooting, user aims and holds the rifle not a platform, but who knoes maybe this BR shooting can be fun
@GoreFUNK420 In a lot of competitive benchrest shooting hitting the bullseye isn't what the game is about. It's about how small of a group the shooter can shoot. And when testing accuracy, the group just has to be on the paper. Where on the paper isn't really important at this point.
@GoreFUNK420 Because there is no need to. If he wanted he would have, but in this sport many use the bullseye for aiming hence the do not want to shoot it away. Seeing the group he performs it is kind of obvious that the group could, if wanted, easily be adjusted to the bullseye.
that guys a crap shooter steve wonder can do better than that 100 meters my arse wots the point of haveing a rifile if u mount it to a bench and a big ass scope that guy took all the skill and fun out of it :(
@MrSweetmore So what your saying is you can do better? A lot better right? I'm not a big fan of 100-200m benchrest myself but this takes an attention to detail unlike anything I've ever seen. I know 2 professional benchrest shooters, and you can't distinguish 2 bullet holes on most of their targets much less the 5 that are actually there. I mean seriously they have a piece of paper behind the target that moves to record all 5 shots. Crazy. Nice vid wind sounded a little ferocious.
Benchrest shooting is about precision equipment, consistency between shot to shot, load development that is never ending, and can vary by 1/10 grain because the sun came out of the clouds, and most importantly shooting the wind ! a small switch could be worth an inch at 100 yds... And there is a 7 min time limit to each record group... Time goes by REAL fast.... We are talking that matches are won and lost by as much as 10 thousands of an inch.
Shooting a 5 cm group at 100 and saying that is close to this is like saying you can run a 100 m sprint in 12 seconds. Sure you are only 3 seconds slower than the olympians but cutting those 3 off is a real bitch.
@deanp09you do realise i don't do it of a bench, with a 45x power scope with a high precision rifle, i do it with an SA80 in the prone on a cold, windy, fucking rain day down at lydd ranges! So let me ask you, who's really showing true skill, the fat guy on the bench, or the guy who can't feel his hands who's rear sight gets water in it every five seconds?
@DocRoe92 . You do realise who this guy is. He has done it all in nearly every type of shooting. So if it comes to skill I am betting he has it over you. I reckon he could probably piss a tighter group than you.
@deanp09 I should imagine he's one of those shooters who uses a shooting jacket that takes all the requirement for strength out of the equation and just leaves it down to the breathing pattern and shot release with a hair trigger. And yes, he probably could get a better group than me with his high precision, pink, totally supported rifle, with a 45x power scope, bench or jacket rested. I'm not gonna reply after this cos i can see you're just gonna keep coming back with ignorant comebacks!!!
@deanp09 this guy with his hot pink dildo, EXCUSE ME i mean rifle looks like a freakin ass pirate lol. i can outshoot this chump any day of the week, hungover and half asleep. if you dont believe me then set it up for us lol
@TheRealestEver . Sure you can sonny. But no need to set it up. Just show us your world record. He has forgotten more than you will ever know about accurate shooting.
Neither the bulls eye nor the square were hit, but a tight group was maintained. Based on the definitions of the words, good precision and yes bad accuracy.
I'm doing that with a .270 with bi-pod at 100 yrds. without any cradle support. And this too is true, the bullets are going through the same hole, but there was no wind either.
I never understood the fascination people have with shooting from a 20 pound vice like bench rest lol I'll take a bipod and MAAAYBE a rear bag any day like it should be!
also, i can do that with a 44 mag with no scope at 100 yards standing with 2 hands on the gun and nothing for stabilizing my grip, but u made the gun so pretty nice. but really at 100 yards there should only be 1 hole no matter how many shots u take.
@gehnnawarrior13 I would be quite sure the only way you could do a 1 hole group at 100 with a 44 would be just after your first shot. It would be all downhill from there.
The experience that goes into creating these rifles and the ammunition is the result of countless hours in the shop and on the range. These guys grew up with guns and their understanding of mechanics and ballistics is way beyond that of most shooters.
Could any noob get groups that tight using a rig like this? Maybe. But a noob could never design or build a gun. Or even begin to understand the most basic principles that go into a design this sophisticated.
The formula 1 of rifle shooting!
railroadtrash09 2 months ago
boring!!!!
MysteryManL2 2 months ago
Maybe it is me, but how do you seriously get any satisfaction from this? It is pure mechanical shooting with a person doing the math and putting their finger on a trigger that probably has about a one pound pull on it. This is like shuffleboard of shooting, an old timers game. No insult to the grey hairs; I'm 36 and have been pummeled in comps by grey hairs. I just don't get this type of shooting.
ruger2275 2 months ago
@ruger2275 It is a little more than pulling the trigger. All prepaprations, getting the rifle tuned up to be accurate, selecting the correct components, scope etc. Working up the ammo load and fine tune it etc. Sandbags and rests must also be corract. A good part of the work is in the element between the ears ! And ofcourse learn to shoot in the wind, evaluating same wind for same shot. And believe me you will only learn to shoot in the different wind conditions with an accurate rifle
birgrunar 2 months ago
@birgrunar I know and understand that any type of shooting, if one wishes to be successful, is a brain game and dependent on quality gear. Thanks for a good response but my opinion was based on a personal preference, and not seeing how this is enjoyable. I guess it is like the people who work out complex equations as a hobby. We all have our individual deals that give us pleasure. My intention was not to rip the video....just respectful opinion.
ruger2275 2 months ago
why even aim and pull the trigger? Why dont you just have a machine do it all for you? I dont see why anyone would consider a benchrest shooter any good at all if this is the ways its done. Do benchresters get any respect or do real riflemen laugh at them?
freestylmx311 3 months ago
is this how bench rest shooting is done? LOL looks like no fun at all. Also that has to be the dumbest looking so called rifle Ive iver seen, nice hot pink stock dude!
freestylmx311 3 months ago
where are the skills and fun in this?
SuperMetal4Ever666 3 months ago
no skill involved in shooting from a rest...... lets see him get a grouping actually holding the rifle as they were designed for
capatainnemo 3 months ago
I bet he cheated.
mr1000rx 4 months ago
@mr1000rx No !
birgrunar 4 months ago
@birgrunar I'm just jealous. Here in Aussie you have to jump through 1000 hoops to get a gun licence. d'oh!
mr1000rx 4 months ago
@mr1000rx That is not good. Why do they have it so difficult, what are they afraid of ?
birgrunar 4 months ago
@birgrunar We had our inside job (9/11) back in 1996, called Port Arthur Massacre.
mr1000rx 4 months ago
@mr1000rx Ok. I am surpriced that they do not ban kitchen knives and automobiles ! I personally have never observed a gun killing a person. It usually takes a person with a weapon, knive, gun or a club to name a few.
birgrunar 4 months ago
@birgrunar For what it's worth if you want to reseach Port Arthur massacre take a look at Andrew MacGregor's findings and Wendy Scurr.
may the blessings be friend.
mr1000rx 4 months ago
im not say thats not acurate but wheres the challenge? your not even holding the gun
eddyage 4 months ago
@eddyage Really! I shot a pretty nice group just the other day. It was a 3/8" 3 shot group at 100 yards. Nothing high tech. No lead sled just me my rifle and sand bags. The rifle was a Marlin 336W 30-30 with a 20" barrel. That's right an old lever action. Ammo was Federal 170 grain round nose from Wal Mart. Now if the guy in the video can do better than that with the same rifle and ammo THEN I will be impressed.
banjer4u 4 months ago
The gun uuuugly, but accurate!
saisandoval 4 months ago
all missed!
kinza999 4 months ago
at first i was like 'meh no bullseye' then i was like 'sweet baby jesus thats accurate'
09widji90 5 months ago
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@wrangomonger Then why do you make these idiotic statements?
"Sorry but I fail to see how this is some sort of accomplishment. Hold that rifle against your shoulder, time the break of the trigger with your heart beat and get the same group at 500 meters and I'll type a glowing testament of your rifleman's prowess."
silvermediastudio 5 months ago
@wrangomonger Bench rest is a testament to the operator's knowledge and preparation.. machining and maintaining the rifle, developing and loading the rounds, tuning it all to work together as a precise machine. Read about what bench rest is, and what it is not, and you'll likely respect it a lot more. The major advances in small arms accuracy usually come from what bench rest shooters develop.
And I'll hazard a guess that he's probably a pretty good shot off the shoulder as well.
silvermediastudio 5 months ago
I can see the "usefullness" in this if your advertising the MOA of a gun you might be trying to sell or just attesting to the accuracy of it... But I as a (VERY faithful) bench shooter, see no fun in this! Completely agree with the comment about no longer being the skill of the shooter but rather the quality of the equipment!
someweirdstuff 5 months ago
damn that is an accurate ass rifle i want one you ever do any prairie dog hunting with it
SaVAg3xMInD308 6 months ago
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takes all the fun out of the recoil..
7zobzombie 6 months ago in playlist bench rest shooting
this is like a lazy persons shooting so easy a caveman can do it. id like to see you group shooting offhand standing
BAbukkakkis 6 months ago
@BAbukkakkis He'd out-shoot you then, too.
silvermediastudio 5 months ago
@silvermediastudio dont make me laugh that rifle is too heavy for his old ass to hold steady and aim its like shooting against a senior citizen
BAbukkakkis 5 months ago
@BAbukkakkis He'd likely out shoot you with any gun you own, in any position.
silvermediastudio 5 months ago
@silvermediastudio i doubt he can shoot iron sights using my m16 and make better groups than me
BAbukkakkis 5 months ago
@BAbukkakkis Make a video and prove it. Otherwise, you're all talk.
silvermediastudio 5 months ago
sorry but this isnt shooting this is machining
weeman558 6 months ago
@weeman558 So, if somebody could use a gunner's sight and get a cannon to drop a round on a target 5km away... you wouldn't appreciate the skill that went into designing the gun, the ammunition, the sight, and the operator's ability to get it all working together for first-shot accuracy?
silvermediastudio 5 months ago
Thats the biggest tack driver Ive ever seen
GeneralG1810 6 months ago
Well. Kinda cool that I can get the same grouping prone on a bi-pod at 100 yards with my .22-250 and .243...
Fun little video. *thumbs up*
Schwartzy15 7 months ago
i find the precision of benchrest shooting amazing, but there is a point where its no longer the shooter, but the equipment.
imjustwonderful 7 months ago
id rather watch womens basketball....least they are actually doing something....
Benelli1989 7 months ago
My experience with 6mm PPC is to set bullet 0.007 inch into riflings on a new barrel.Later when barrel begins to burn a little, set the bullet a little deeper into riflings, 0.010 inch the first time and then 0.012-0.014 inch.
This I do with Berger 68 grain bullet. This can be a little different with other bullets, but the initial setting of 0.007 inch is a my favorite with most bullets in 6mm PPC.
birgrunar 7 months ago
Holy cow now THATS good grouping. Can you tell me when you reload do you have the projectile on the lands or do you give them clearnce? Also if theres clearance how much?
GeneralG1810 7 months ago
my cousin john shot a man 8000ft away!
heidar455 8 months ago
ya where is the fun in that. nice gear though
the14u36 8 months ago
I shot a same hole 3 round group with an AI in .308 at 100 metres. The first time I had fired the rifle which belonged to someone else. It was a stock rifle ('scuse pun).
hisveggieness 8 months ago
i dont find this impressive, as a matter of fact it must be quite lame.
Mirind0R 8 months ago
im gonna sound like im blowing my own horn here but comming from new zealand i hunt every weekend and i hand load all my own ammo and get groups like that or better from all my rifles or i get rid of them ive shot a hare at 750 yards and a typical shot for me is around 200 to 300 yards on rabbits with either my .223 or my k hornet and i have a target martini action i get 5 rounds through the same hole at 100yds, and i only use a bipod no bench rest and dont need a bipod at 100m to shoot rabbits
randoriremix 8 months ago
@randoriremix I can't wait to see the video of you doing it.
silvermediastudio 8 months ago
@silvermediastudio if u give me your email ill send you some photos of next time im out hunting ive got 2 work up some new loads for my .223 and my 2 7mm rifles i have a photo of a 5shot group n 1 fly away (my fault) frm my .22 martini action. at the mo ive got some problems with 1 of my 7mm rifles wont shoot under 2" group but my tika t3 with fedral premium is shooting 1/2" groups at 100m and im hoping with hand loads to get that to keyhole better still come to NZ ill take you out for a hunt
randoriremix 5 months ago
@randoriremix Upload it to Flickr.
silvermediastudio 5 months ago
Yha if you have enuf money any one can do it not a true marksmanship sport it is a richmans sport!!!!!!!!
reapercvr 8 months ago
This just proves it's not the gun, or the ammo, or the wind, or the elevation, it's the shooter.
criticaboutvids 9 months ago
Great gun although I'm not liking the colour. I don't bench rest shoot or compete but do reload. This is an art on it's own and a great number of people don't understand. A perfectionist could spend hundreds of different combinations of loads to get that size of grouping. Great shooting and load safe. Great vid thanks
bigwin72 9 months ago
how do you get any joy out of this??? this takes zero talent y even own a rifle or shoot technically ur not even shooting the rifle i really dont see how this is so full filling
heiney69 9 months ago
@heiney69 What you and alot of ppl dont understand about this shooting is that its not about actually firing the weapon, its more about the ammo reloading. Personally Ive never done this style of shooting but trust me to load ammo THAT accurate takes alot of time and patience, theres more to it than just getting powder weight and seating right. The shot is just the result of the product, sure the rifle has to be of good quality also but if you havent reloaded try and see how accurate you get
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your rifle is a queer.
Mirind0R 9 months ago
All you need is a remote or a auto timed trigger activator and you can sip coffee and read the newspaper. Is there a iPhone application for this ? (wink)
MaximusStimulus 9 months ago
he is only doing this to show how accurate the rifle is while eliminating the human variable. In reality, people can shoot rifles that accurately, but that is not what he was saying. he is pretty much giving kudos the the person that created this masterpiece of a rifle by showing how precise it's shooting pattern is. Not trying to hit the bulls eye.
redpoopsicle 9 months ago
Kind of a strange way to shoot a rifle...
TheJackpotMaster 10 months ago
People who make comments against benchrest shooting simply don't understand the sport. It is much more difficult than it appears, and achieving a group like this is the culmination of the effort rather than being the whole show. Precision shooting is a totally different sport than field shooting or combat-style competition, and is not really a spectator sport. But that doesn't make it any less viable as a sport.
Possumlivingdotcom 10 months ago
ugly gun!!
wertos22 10 months ago
what is the fun in shooting a weapon this way..
urbman29 11 months ago
I would like to see you do that without the bench and 24 power scope.
JAKEKING777 11 months ago
@JAKEKING777 Then I have to make a new video !
birgrunar 11 months ago 6
@JAKEKING777 This is what bench rest is. It's really more about who has the more accurate rifle with the most accurate loads and the most accurate calculations rather than pure marksmanship.
AngeredKabar 11 months ago
@JAKEKING777 I'd like to see anybody do it without the bench and a 24x scope. Oh wait, it isn't possible.
silvermediastudio 8 months ago
AMAZING GROUP
CheeseBon 11 months ago
@CheeseBon Thank you !
birgrunar 11 months ago
I I can undertand the point of view some have about bench shooting. It isn't for everyone. I personally enjoy holding 4 inch center mass groups at 500 meters, but sniping is my forte. However, the technical aspect of bench shooting is the foundation of firearm and ordinance design and offers shooters a venue of non combative shooting sport. It may not be my cup of tea but I'm glad there are those that take it seriously so that new products arise from their experience.
tactom51 1 year ago
@tactom51 Thank you. You are right. Some people like Golf and other things, others like racing.
birgrunar 1 year ago
the point if the vid is to show the precision of the custom rifle barrel,trigger ect. you guys are missing the point. a factory made mass produced rifle uses the same die for the rifling almost 30 times before changing them. inconsistency in production will not put the bullet through the same hole no matter how tight you mount it to a table
lilmommacass 1 year ago
@lilmommacass Right !
birgrunar 1 year ago
Well, this looks kinda boring...this is something I'd do when zeroing a rifle, not when I want to go out and have fun shooting it!
PSPmaster321 1 year ago
this isnt shootinjg this is pulling a lever
thelongshot1996 1 year ago
Surely this takes the enjoyment out of shooting, if the rifle is clamped in place how can it not shoot through the same hole over and over and over again.I doubt wind would do it at 100y with a round as fast as this.
I can get better groupings with my .223 remy 700 at 100m just shooting off a bipod. This gives me more satisfaction as i have to do my bit as well as the rifle.
Fair enough this rifle will do better than mine out at further ranges but for 100y this sucks.
bunnysniper22 1 year ago
@bunnysniper22 The wind always effects the bullet. AFAICS birgrunar hasn't stated a muzzle velocity. But let's assume it is 1000m/s (3281fps) for the sake of the argument. Then we can compute the wind drift at 100m, for the Berger bullet, with a ballistics calculator (e.g. JBM): 1m/s (3.3fps) wind, from the side, will change the POI by 7mm! If you want to shoot tiny groups you better know how to read the wind (flags). Because if you can't you will never be able to shoot tiny groups on COMMAND.
gunnaraw 1 year ago
@gunnaraw Ok right !
birgrunar 1 year ago
well i guess if you thing is reloading and you dont spend much time shooting it would be fun to see if you can dial in a load
theinfedel 1 year ago
and on a x marked spot on target at 100mm
runingblackbear 1 year ago
match shooting is a one hole of the first shot and it is mic to the dial of that hole second shot is checked to see if you busted out of that dial and so on
runingblackbear 1 year ago
@Oxstayne
Benchrest shooting is a wind reading sport. Is it easy? Absolutely not. Many talented shooters from other disiplines have tried benchrest shooting and are not competative. Winning group aggregates are often .1 to .2 inches in high winds. If you ever try it, good luck!!
10winger 1 year ago
@10winger Some of these specialists should just try it, just for the fun of it.
Later they might learn !
birgrunar 1 year ago
+10
HEADSHOT
modernwarfaresnipa1 1 year ago
I am a complete amatuer myself who punches paper and hunts. Learning from some guys who DO know what they are doing I am surprised at the amount of prep that goes into making a clean steady shot. They usually take a minimum of 8-10 secs prep per shot and shoot quarter size groups at 200 yards, which is what I want to be able to do. Position shooting is a highly developed skill
All that being said, great vid, great shooting, but why pink for that beast dude?
shkotay 1 year ago
Arguably though..once you take the human out of the equation what is there to compete for? Who has the best stuff? Who has the best rifle? You don't even look through the scope when you pull the trigger. I don't understand why people do this it's like your competing over nothing unless theres some skill here I'm not noticing?? On top of that you don't even hit the bulls eye cause it damages your aiming point..understandable but isnt that the point--to hit the bulls eye? lawl...
aberry9475 1 year ago 24
@aberry9475 You can not take the human out of the equation, the human is always there. Rifle do not shoot by them selves, there is always a human behinde it.
birgrunar 1 year ago
@aberry9475 You can NOT take the human effect out of it.
Are you going to let an ape shoot your rifle ? Not me thank you !
birgrunar 1 year ago
@birgrunar Honestly..I see the sport a little differently now. But I probably would feel comfortable letting an ape shoot the gun, considering you aren't even looking down the scope when you take the shot. Please don't see my opinion as an offensive jesture or me being proud, it's just my opinion...everyone has one. When I get old and can't physically hold a gun, I might do this. Other than that I see now reason to do this sort of shooting. Sorry if this is offensive.......................
Kramer10205269 1 year ago 5
@Kramer10205269 Take your ape with you to a BR shoot and see how you do ?
You might be surpriced ! This is a one type of rifle shooting for maximum accuracy of
man and rifle. Your opinion is your opinion, does not mean you are right ?
In BR shooting you can learn very much, in shooting, wind evaluation, reloading, cleaning rifle barrels, sighting in scopes, and other technical things from the most knowledgable gunsmiths and shooters in the business. Try it out, you will learn It is a promise
birgrunar 1 year ago
@Kramer10205269 I can undertand the point of view some have about bench shooting. It isn't for everyone. I personally enjoy holding 4 inch center mass groups at 500 meters, but sniping is my forte. However, the technical aspect of bench shooting is the foundation of firearm and ordinance design and offers shooters a venue of non combative shooting sport. It may not be my cup of tea but I'm glad there are those that take it seriously so that new products arise from their experience.
tactom51 1 year ago
@aberry9475 exactly and welll said to and to add to it 2000 bucks says this guy could preform like us in a combat position
tron72mon 1 year ago
@aberry9475 i agree, but we all like different things.
,jon
lynette1953 1 year ago
@aberry9475 Not really, the point is to get the tightest group possible like he demonstrated
jacob541146 1 year ago
@aberry9475 I agree, it is a shame when men let technology take away the challenge of sport. In this great vid, the shooter must consider the wind, ammunition type, barrel "coldness" and other factors. But you have a point, the adjustable rifle stand takes away the tension from the shooter, and shoot from a comfy chair is much easier than laying over rocks. In my opinion, such great equipment and skill should be used in extreme range shots, like half mile or 1000-yard, for real challenge.
jmadruga78 1 year ago
@aberry9475 No, in this sport the bullseye is irrelevant. Most of the skill is in building and tuning a rifle with the utmost precision, and assembling handloads that work perfectly with the rifle. In looking at the shooting and the practical accuracy, you are missing the entire point.
What people overlook or are unaware of is that nobody can stand up and shoot a .1 moa group offhand. Nobody. We are not machines, no matter what you see on TV. But this sport is not about athletic prowess.
Possumlivingdotcom 10 months ago
@Possumlivingdotcom and thus extremely boring and american :)
TheWeeaboo 9 months ago
@aberry9475 no the point is not to hit the bulls eye if you were in br you would know that. If you dont know anything about what your talking about why do you insist on talking about it. This video wasnt to show his kill, it was to show what a br custom gun can do. Not everythng is a dick measuring contest!!!
brandeno15 9 months ago
@brandeno15 shame he is so right about he says though. it doesnt seem at all intresting. and soon we have the robots to truelly take the human out. well see what you got to say then. why do we insist to talk about something we know nothing about ? haha what a dumb thing to say. i hope you arent religious or youd be extremely hypocrite to top it all off ^^ have a nice day
TheWeeaboo 9 months ago
@aberry9475 Yeah, nobody ever competed to build the fastest drag car, or the best painting, or the most efficient solar vehicle.
The skill is in the preparation, the attention to detail, all the steps it takes to get the equipment to perform at the absolute limit. Don't like it? There's dozens of other shooting competitions you might like, from IPSC to Cowboy Action to paintball.
silvermediastudio 8 months ago
Thats not real rifle shooting, clamp your gun down and pull the trigger, errr no. Look up sirslotalot on youtube, he will show you how to shoot for real !
247sniper 1 year ago
This doesn't look fun at all......
MrL33tkoala 1 year ago
the benchrest lose all the seanse of rifleman its all about
chainsawvenom 1 year ago
A few more headshot and you should get fall!
TahaJames 1 year ago
No one is asking you to join. Some men like to suck dick and some men like to shoot perfect scores. Which are you?
ferrari5k 1 year ago
these people arent riflemen
they wouldnt hit shit in position shooting
Sturmmann 1 year ago 2
@Sturmmann That is what you think. Reality, sometimes surprises people.
birgrunar 1 year ago
@birgrunar
reality? you mean the fact that they kill paper from a mechanical rest?
position shooting seperates the men from boys and benchresters
Sturmmann 1 year ago
@birgrunar
+1
It is a different game entirely. I so both and BR has given a lot to position shooting and accuracy in general.
Artsionparas 1 year ago
@Sturmmann -.- thats only 100 meters i mean yeah i know thats a bit of a distance but this guy doesnt have to steady it or anything, people hit 1000 yards with a normal rifle
jonlscott 1 year ago
does it come in mens?
zomgpwnage 1 year ago
I really can't see the point of it all (or the bullet strike come to that) but each to their own I suppose. Just what serious amount of skill is required with a gun clamped to the bench? I like to hold my rifles and shoot from the shoulder, standing, sitting, kneeling or prone.
Biffo1262 1 year ago
thats hectic precision! nicee work
habitatgood07 1 year ago
Awesome shooting, what does it cost to put a rifle like that together?
camk31 1 year ago
This is the gayest thing I've ever seen. This does not take skill. I'm sorry. Pick up the fucking gun and actually shoot it if you want respect. This makes me sad.
goaliestar1010 1 year ago
@goaliestar1010 We are seeking max accuracy, nothing else !
birgrunar 1 year ago
@goaliestar1010 Making noise with a gun garners no respect. Anyone with a finger can do that. Shooting small groups takes work and talent. You have no knowledge of this event, and it shows.
chakathewolf 1 year ago
@chakathewolf I'm sorry but I can't respect a "sport" that has removed the entire human element. The gun is stabilized and bolted to weights. He doesn't need to use anything more than a finger to shoot. I'm sorry but this just isn't impressive. Do this free aiming and you're amazing. Even the video's creator says that all they're looking for is max accuracy, but that's not that hard when you have fine adjustments attached to the gun and it's been stabilized.
goaliestar1010 1 year ago
@goaliestar1010 The rifle is not bolted to weights. It is in a sandbag rest. That makes it easier, but it still takes precision handloading, Extremely fine muscle control and skill in reading wind and mirage to shoot groups in the fraction of an inch range. To each his own, but to me this is so much better than watching the urban ninjas rack of magazine after magazine and never hit anything. Heck, a pack of firecrackers would have the same effect and be a lot cheaper!
chakathewolf 1 year ago
you missed the centre lol
bates507 1 year ago
@bates507 LOL
birgrunar 1 year ago
looks pretty easy. try shooting while standing. and use a full size cartridge
TEHLEGITGUY 1 year ago
good shootin
raythemanroe 1 year ago
@raythemanroe Thank you
birgrunar 1 year ago
I'm sure I'm like others in that I see BR shooting as more of a strategic game. #1 is the rifle and your gear. #2 Is the ability to know your weapon and read the conditions of the environment. It's not so much physical precision like standard rifle competition. When you remove that element, you set the bar higher, and competition becomes less random and more competitive.
MOLRobocop 1 year ago
make him shoot off a sling! :P then well see how good he is ;) jks BR is more about the rifle no?
mirkthirteen 1 year ago
I've never had much interest in BR tournaments, accuracy is impressive but BR seems to move very far away from the roots of shooting.
qweer999999999 1 year ago
@qweer999999999 Give it a try, attend a match as a visitor, talk to BR shooting competitors. Ask them all the imaginable questions about the sport.
They might offer you to shoot a practice group for the fun of it.
Actually BR rifle shooting IS THE ROOT of rifle shooting, after all rifles are about accuracy. This is the sport which is setting the standards in quality manufacturing, of actions, barrels triggers, riflescopes etc.
birgrunar 1 year ago
@birgrunar "Actually BR rifle shooting IS THE ROOT of rifle shooting" I strongly disagree with the statement, but I support shooting sports of any kind! so if you enjoy it then that's that! BR has always felt like watching robots play pong--a little lifeless. Team tactical courses on the other-hand are very exciting to me as they feature gear, wits and skill against novel scenarios. just my 2cents.
qweer999999999 1 year ago
@birgrunar
Are arent any fundamentals of marksmanship here. I respect BR for what it is, but its all about the rifle, ammunition, and the ability to read wind.
Gordonalways1 1 year ago
@Gordonalways1 . Those my friend are the fundamentals of marksmanship. Throw in reading heat, mirages and temperature and I reckon you have it wrapped up. This guy seems to cope quite well at all of them.
deanp09 1 year ago
@birgrunar well id say rifles are about shooting a traget where its game or paper etc... i think what qweer99999999 is getting at that the shooter should be more involed. ie use the rifles but not the bench rest that way its more the skill of the shooter that deterimes who wins not the rifle
MrTNL3 1 year ago
@qweer999999999 true i think this would be fun to see who can hit the furthest target type stuff but when you want to decide who the best shooter is, sand bag supports all the way and shoulder mounted rifle shooting, user aims and holds the rifle not a platform, but who knoes maybe this BR shooting can be fun
golfer15963 1 year ago
thats easy ,any asshole could do that, standing up is the real deal
398270 1 year ago
kinda takes the skill out of shooting to do that but still the tool you made or used is very impressive
bobbins05 1 year ago
Can't ask for much more than that...
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Giuelith 1 year ago
PRO AIMING YET SHITTY CAMO NOT THE BEST FOR SNIPING
dylbyl1234 1 year ago
Why didnt he hit the Bullseye?
GoreFUNK420 1 year ago
@GoreFUNK420 In a lot of competitive benchrest shooting hitting the bullseye isn't what the game is about. It's about how small of a group the shooter can shoot. And when testing accuracy, the group just has to be on the paper. Where on the paper isn't really important at this point.
2far2gethome 1 year ago
@GoreFUNK420 Because there is no need to. If he wanted he would have, but in this sport many use the bullseye for aiming hence the do not want to shoot it away. Seeing the group he performs it is kind of obvious that the group could, if wanted, easily be adjusted to the bullseye.
nissen7676 1 year ago
@GoreFUNK420 That would damage the aiming point.
birgrunar 1 year ago
holy crap talk about precision nice video!
willadio 1 year ago
@willadio Thank you.
birgrunar 1 year ago
make an electronic trigger system...
pietzeekoe 1 year ago
that guys a crap shooter steve wonder can do better than that 100 meters my arse wots the point of haveing a rifile if u mount it to a bench and a big ass scope that guy took all the skill and fun out of it :(
MrSweetmore 1 year ago
@MrSweetmore So what your saying is you can do better? A lot better right? I'm not a big fan of 100-200m benchrest myself but this takes an attention to detail unlike anything I've ever seen. I know 2 professional benchrest shooters, and you can't distinguish 2 bullet holes on most of their targets much less the 5 that are actually there. I mean seriously they have a piece of paper behind the target that moves to record all 5 shots. Crazy. Nice vid wind sounded a little ferocious.
MrSurgicalPrecision 1 year ago
Benchrest shooting is about precision equipment, consistency between shot to shot, load development that is never ending, and can vary by 1/10 grain because the sun came out of the clouds, and most importantly shooting the wind ! a small switch could be worth an inch at 100 yds... And there is a 7 min time limit to each record group... Time goes by REAL fast.... We are talking that matches are won and lost by as much as 10 thousands of an inch.
notjustadude 1 year ago 3
Shooting a 5 cm group at 100 and saying that is close to this is like saying you can run a 100 m sprint in 12 seconds. Sure you are only 3 seconds slower than the olympians but cutting those 3 off is a real bitch.
deanp09 1 year ago
haha lol a red snipergun.. why, think you lose it underway lol it's awful
rf900rs2biker 1 year ago
I know it's a different type if shooting discipline but come on!!! I can get a group of 5cm at 100m in the prone with an SA80!
DocRoe92 1 year ago
@DocRoe92 You do realise that this group is 13 times better than yours!!!
deanp09 1 year ago
@deanp09you do realise i don't do it of a bench, with a 45x power scope with a high precision rifle, i do it with an SA80 in the prone on a cold, windy, fucking rain day down at lydd ranges! So let me ask you, who's really showing true skill, the fat guy on the bench, or the guy who can't feel his hands who's rear sight gets water in it every five seconds?
DocRoe92 1 year ago
@DocRoe92 . You do realise who this guy is. He has done it all in nearly every type of shooting. So if it comes to skill I am betting he has it over you. I reckon he could probably piss a tighter group than you.
deanp09 1 year ago
@deanp09 I should imagine he's one of those shooters who uses a shooting jacket that takes all the requirement for strength out of the equation and just leaves it down to the breathing pattern and shot release with a hair trigger. And yes, he probably could get a better group than me with his high precision, pink, totally supported rifle, with a 45x power scope, bench or jacket rested. I'm not gonna reply after this cos i can see you're just gonna keep coming back with ignorant comebacks!!!
DocRoe92 1 year ago
@DocRoe92 No mate . Ignorant is comparing yourself to this guy.
deanp09 1 year ago
@deanp09 this guy with his hot pink dildo, EXCUSE ME i mean rifle looks like a freakin ass pirate lol. i can outshoot this chump any day of the week, hungover and half asleep. if you dont believe me then set it up for us lol
TheRealestEver 1 year ago
@TheRealestEver . Sure you can sonny. But no need to set it up. Just show us your world record. He has forgotten more than you will ever know about accurate shooting.
deanp09 1 year ago
Good precision, bad accuracy.
babyeatsdingos 1 year ago 14
@babyeatsdingos Nope. Smart shooting, not damaging the aiming point.
birgrunar 1 year ago
@birgrunar
Neither the bulls eye nor the square were hit, but a tight group was maintained. Based on the definitions of the words, good precision and yes bad accuracy.
babyeatsdingos 1 year ago
@babyeatsdingos 100% in target :)) very good comment !
4061926 1 year ago
@babyeatsdingos lol chem class
coutxxStatix 1 year ago
I'm doing that with a .270 with bi-pod at 100 yrds. without any cradle support. And this too is true, the bullets are going through the same hole, but there was no wind either.
1LonePuma 1 year ago
I never understood the fascination people have with shooting from a 20 pound vice like bench rest lol I'll take a bipod and MAAAYBE a rear bag any day like it should be!
Juice56107 1 year ago
also, i can do that with a 44 mag with no scope at 100 yards standing with 2 hands on the gun and nothing for stabilizing my grip, but u made the gun so pretty nice. but really at 100 yards there should only be 1 hole no matter how many shots u take.
gehnnawarrior13 1 year ago
@gehnnawarrior13 I would be quite sure the only way you could do a 1 hole group at 100 with a 44 would be just after your first shot. It would be all downhill from there.
deanp09 1 year ago
the ugliest gun i have ever seen in my entire life....
gehnnawarrior13 1 year ago
what brand rest r u using?
iamaGod357 1 year ago
The experience that goes into creating these rifles and the ammunition is the result of countless hours in the shop and on the range. These guys grew up with guns and their understanding of mechanics and ballistics is way beyond that of most shooters.
Could any noob get groups that tight using a rig like this? Maybe. But a noob could never design or build a gun. Or even begin to understand the most basic principles that go into a design this sophisticated.
gmoore9449 1 year ago
@gmoore9449 You are so right mister.
birgrunar 1 year ago
That is one helluva good group.
Albacorewing 1 year ago